Re: [gentoo-user] Why does my system still want gcc 3.4.9?
Am Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2008 schrieb ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The short of it is that a lot of binaries on my system are linked against gcc 3.4.9, even if I remerge them from scratch. There is no such thing as gcc 3.4.9. It happened with gcc 4.2.2, I emerged 4.2.3 and it still happens. The most common broken binary is /usr/bin/lzma, which I have remerged several times since the 4.2.3 emerge to no avail. # ldd /usr/bin/lzma /usr/bin/lzma: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by /usr/bin/lzma) You emerged it with 4.2.3, but _at_runtime_ it's trying to get libstdc++ from 4.1.2. Check your environment, especially all variables with PATH in their name (env|grep PATH), as well as /etc/ld.so.conf. Try: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.2.3 ldd /usr/bin/lzma If this works, try running env-update source /etc/profile, then just ldd /usr/bin/lzma again. gcc-config is happy: It doesn't matter how happ gcc-config is. Your runtime linker is not. There is an old gcc hanging around, which I have been tempted to move out of the way and see what happens, but I don't like broken unbootable systems. Rename it and run revdep-rebuild. If everything is fine you can remove it. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Andrey Falko wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Hello guys, in which configuration file can I set a nice level for X11? (this makes all graphical software run much faster, at least when I used Debian). Nice factor for X makes graphical software run fater? I don't thinl so. Not at all. Nice factor gives X priority, so if you are compiling something and X's priority is high, you'll be using X as if nothing was being compiled. Only if you are root. As a normal user, you can only lower the priority of a process. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant hammering from Chinese IPs on prt 102[67]
On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Justin wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If so what is the massive chinese interest in icq? found this in the net: http://www.grc.com/port_1026.htm http://www.grc.com/port_1027.htm That doesn't give any analysis of why this port is being hammered by hundreds, even thousands of IP originating in china. It only guesses at what `might' be the reason such a port my be open, and how to close it... but even that part has no detail. It appears to be, at root, just another snivel about how MS does things with no substance. This is typical grc.com style FUD for paranoid MSWindows users. He is a really good salesman in IT snakeoil (his background is in marketing). I understand it the other way round. It is not an active knocking on your ports, but a passive MS thing. Lots of Chinese bought a new computer with an MS operating system, which is sending out to the world. The two ports in question relate to the Windows Messenger service and the way it listens for UDP connections on ports in the 1026-1030 range. If you have disabled your Messenger Service there's probably nothing to fear. If on the other hand you have just woken up to the MSWindows miracle, just booted up your brand new unpatched WinXP and connected it to the Internet for the first time, wey-hey! Mandarin party time :-p LOL! Actually it could be a trojan listening on these ports, although on a box I just checked they are bound to 127.0.0.1. My money is on some new Messenger Spam attack similar to the one that was doing the rounds a few years ago. I thought that MS brought out a patch that disabled the Windows Messenger service by default since SP2 if not earlier? A packer sniffer ought to show up if something is amiss with the box. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why does my system still want gcc 3.4.9?
On Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been battling this weirdness for several months, and it has been getting worse and worse. Now I can't even unpack half the man pages. The short of it is that a lot of binaries on my system are linked against gcc 3.4.9, even if I remerge them from scratch. It happened with gcc 4.2.2, I emerged 4.2.3 and it still happens. The most common broken binary is /usr/bin/lzma, which I have remerged several times since the 4.2.3 emerge to no avail. # ldd /usr/bin/lzma /usr/bin/lzma: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by /usr/bin/lzma) linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000) libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb7e3a000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7e15000) libgcc_s.so.1 = /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb7e09000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7cd4000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f63000) gcc-config is happy: # gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.2.3 * The bad symlinks for gcj components (reported by revdep-rebuild) have been fixed. There is an old gcc hanging around, which I have been tempted to move out of the way and see what happens, but I don't like broken unbootable systems. $ ll /usr/lib/gcc/i386-pc-linux-gnu/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 Jun 12 2006 3.4.4 with the other two versions elsewhere: $ ll /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/ total 4 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 2464 Dec 27 15:07 4.1.2 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 2504 May 12 11:58 4.2.3 This is a ~x86 system. there are/were probably a bunch of *la files left which have that stale crap in them. Grep for it. Then remove them. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem upgrading kernel from 2.6.25.1to 2.6.26_rc1
On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Marko Kocić wrote: Is it a known issue with 2.6.26-rc1 kernel? How could I painlessly migrate configuration from old 2.6.25 kernel to 2.6.26 without need for complete reconfiguration? make menuconfig always keeped current config before, did it change recently? It didn't change that I know of, but one can never tell. I suppose step 1 is to check what changed. So, either: run make oldconfig or run make menuconfig and rapidly flip through all the screens looking for entries that end with [NEW] If that doesn't sort stuff out, then you will probably have to inspect the area where you have missing modules more closely and read the help pages. What are these missing modules? Often it's a case of a replacement has a different name, like the b43legacy for Broadcom wireless now has an entirely new b43 intended to replace b43legacy -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problem upgrading kernel from 2.6.25.1to 2.6.26_rc1
Hi all, I'm using vanilla-sources-2.6.25.1 right now. I tried to configure and build 2.6.26_rc1 like I did many times before. create symlink to linux-2.6.26-rc1 folder go to linux folder make menuconfig save make make modules_install install Everythinh seems to build ok, with some MISMATCH_CONFIG warning, and when I reboot to the new kernel, a bunch of modules that were there before are not loaded anymore. Inspecting it it seems that some modules are not even built. Is it a known issue with 2.6.26-rc1 kernel? How could I painlessly migrate configuration from old 2.6.25 kernel to 2.6.26 without need for complete reconfiguration? make menuconfig always keeped current config before, did it change recently? Thanks, Marko -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gnome wallpaper
My wallpaper doesnt come up when Gnome starts, but if i open the System - Preferences - Appearance dialogue it appears (i dont even need to make a change). So it looks like something is not running until i open the dialogue. Any ideas on how to fix it? Or will i have to resort to 'mv .gnome .gnome.orig' (or .gnome2) or something like that?
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome wallpaper
Am 14.05.2008 um Uhr haben Sie geschrieben: My wallpaper doesnt come up when Gnome starts, but if i open the System - Preferences - Appearance dialogue it appears (i dont even need to make a change). So it looks like something is not running until i open the dialogue. Any ideas on how to fix it? Or will i have to resort to 'mv .gnome .gnome.orig' (or .gnome2) or something like that? Does 'nautilus' start? Try using 'nautilus --no-desktop'... Marc -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem upgrading kernel from 2.6.25.1to 2.6.26_rc1
On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Marko Kocić wrote: It might be the case. I don't currently have access to my home laptop, but there were lots of modules that are missing. Alsa and iptables failed to start after reboot and I ended up in console screen which is small and in the center of the screen. Sounds like you have a lot more going on that one or two modules not loading :-) You do have module support in that kernel right? Perhaps the output of dmesg and the relevant bits of messages from the init process will be required here -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem upgrading kernel from 2.6.25.1to 2.6.26_rc1
2008/5/14 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Marko Kocić wrote: Is it a known issue with 2.6.26-rc1 kernel? How could I painlessly migrate configuration from old 2.6.25 kernel to 2.6.26 without need for complete reconfiguration? make menuconfig always keeped current config before, did it change recently? It didn't change that I know of, but one can never tell. I suppose step 1 is to check what changed. So, either: run make oldconfig or run make menuconfig and rapidly flip through all the screens looking for entries that end with [NEW] Did that, but I probably missed to reenable something ;) It was a long time since the last time I had to configure kernel from scratch, so it is hard to remember everything. If that doesn't sort stuff out, then you will probably have to inspect the area where you have missing modules more closely and read the help pages. What are these missing modules? Often it's a case of a replacement has a different name, like the b43legacy for Broadcom wireless now has an entirely new b43 intended to replace b43legacy It might be the case. I don't currently have access to my home laptop, but there were lots of modules that are missing. Alsa and iptables failed to start after reboot and I ended up in console screen which is small and in the center of the screen. Thanks, Marko
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem upgrading kernel from 2.6.25.1to 2.6.26_rc1
2008/5/14 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Marko Kocić wrote: It might be the case. I don't currently have access to my home laptop, but there were lots of modules that are missing. Alsa and iptables failed to start after reboot and I ended up in console screen which is small and in the center of the screen. Sounds like you have a lot more going on that one or two modules not loading :-) You do have module support in that kernel right? Yes. For some reason it was reset to N, so I had to set it again. Some modules build and install ok (eg. agpgart) Perhaps the output of dmesg and the relevant bits of messages from the init process will be required here Yes, I'll have to digg more to fix this. I just hoped that there is some easy/fast solution that I didn't know of :( It is going to be a fun week ;(, hopefully not the weekend ;) Thanks for your help
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem upgrading kernel from 2.6.25.1to 2.6.26_rc1
On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Marko Kocić wrote: Perhaps the output of dmesg and the relevant bits of messages from the init process will be required here Yes, I'll have to digg more to fix this. I just hoped that there is some easy/fast solution that I didn't know of :( It is going to be a fun week ;(, hopefully not the weekend ;) Here's my advice: start over :-) Using a .24 config works to build .25 - I have done it, so I think something just went bellyup on yours. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Masked Packages
Hi, I have a lot of masked packages installed on my system. The packages are installed but not unmasked. Is there an easy way to find those packages? Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem upgrading kernel from 2.6.25.1to 2.6.26_rc1
2008/5/14 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Marko Kocić wrote:
Perhaps the output of dmesg and the relevant bits of messages from
the init process will be required here
Yes, I'll have to digg more to fix this. I just hoped that there is
some easy/fast
solution that I didn't know of :(
It is going to be a fun week ;(, hopefully not the weekend ;)
Here's my advice:
start over :-)
Using a .24 config works to build .25 - I have done it, so I think
something just went bellyup on yours.
It worked for me too. I had similar problem when upgrading from 25 to 25.1,
but it seems like it was enough to fast scan through menus in menuconfig,
change nothing, just save config, and rebuild.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Masked Packages
Dunno if this will get you every masked package, but at least should be quite close; if you run emerge -pv --emptytree world you can check the packages that are being downgraded, quite probably the reason for this downgrading will be that the installed version is a masked one. Just an idea. Abraham Marín Pérez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Responsable de I+D SILVANO CONSULTORES Tfno.: 93.412.79.12 -- Fax: 93.410.92.90 http://www.silvanoc.com/ Daniel Mendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/05/2008 13:53 Por favor, responda a gentoo-user Para: Gentoo User List gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org cc: Asunto: [gentoo-user] Masked Packages Hi, I have a lot of masked packages installed on my system. The packages are installed but not unmasked. Is there an easy way to find those packages? Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Masked Packages
Daniel Mendler schrieb: Hi, I have a lot of masked packages installed on my system. The packages are installed but not unmasked. Is there an easy way to find those packages? Daniel See this http://gentoo-wiki.com/Keywords http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Regenerate_package_keywords Both tips can help you to find those packages. Another way is $ eix -uc|grep '\[D\]'. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Masked Packages
On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Daniel Mendler wrote: Hi, I have a lot of masked packages installed on my system. The packages are installed but not unmasked. Is there an easy way to find those packages? How can you have a masked package installed but have not unmasked it? To find all sorts of oddities with your portage config files, run: eix-test-obsolete You may have to emerge eix first to get it -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
Well I did a little Google'ing, and i found a blog. There the author wrote: lapitopi gyuszk # snice -15 X After doing this, I ran htop and it told me that my X11 was running with -15 niceness. I experience better responsiblity under all of X11 (kde, firefox, konsole, anything). For example switching from an existing Firefox window to (for ex.) Konsole or Xchat is much faster. I have to add, I own a very slow computer, so I have to do everything to speed up my system. It is very slow even with WinXP+official drivers. 2008/5/14 Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Andrey Falko wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Hello guys, in which configuration file can I set a nice level for X11? (this makes all graphical software run much faster, at least when I used Debian). Nice factor for X makes graphical software run fater? I don't thinl so. Not at all. Nice factor gives X priority, so if you are compiling something and X's priority is high, you'll be using X as if nothing was being compiled. Only if you are root. As a normal user, you can only lower the priority of a process. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Masked Packages
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can you have a masked package installed but have not unmasked it? By setting the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS flag in the command line when emerging? Haven't done that for a while though, so I wouldn't know if ACCEPT_KEYWORDS has been deprecated since? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why does my system still want gcc 3.4.9?
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 08:19:38AM +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: There is no such thing as gcc 3.4.9. You emerged it with 4.2.3, but _at_runtime_ it's trying to get libstdc++ from 4.1.2. Check your environment, especially all variables with PATH in their name (env|grep PATH), as well as /etc/ld.so.conf. I see the difference. I had thought if it was looking for 3.4.9, it must have been compiled with 3.4.9. But I just edited (read only!) libstdc++.so... and it has the string 3.4.9 in it, presumably to satisfy multiple versions. Try: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.2.3 ldd /usr/bin/lzma This works. If this works, try running env-update source /etc/profile, then just ldd /usr/bin/lzma again. Unfortunately, this doesn't work. But at least I am now pointed in the right direction of being a runtime problem solved (temporarily) by LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Now I need to get me some sleep and get a fresh start. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Well I did a little Google'ing, and i found a blog. There the author wrote: lapitopi gyuszk # snice -15 X As already pointed out, running process with a nice value less than 0 can only be done by root, and it's usually a really bad idea to run your entire X session as root. X (and applications running under X) involve a lot of code, and vulnerabilities can exist in this code. You don't want any vulnerabilities to be potentially exploited as the root user. Take the multiple X-terminal vulnerabilities reported last week by the Gentoo security team that could allow local attackers to hijack X11 terminals of other users. The moral is don't run as root unless you actually need to (and I'd argue that you should never need to run X sessions as root.) After doing this, I ran htop and it told me that my X11 was running with -15 niceness. I experience better responsiblity under all of X11 (kde, firefox, konsole, anything). For example switching from an existing Firefox window to (for ex.) Konsole or Xchat is much faster. I have to add, I own a very slow computer, so I have to do everything to speed up my system. It is very slow even with WinXP+official drivers. If the goal is to lower the priority of other tasks the computer may be doing at the same time, perhaps setting a higher nice value for them would offer similar results. In the case of compiling, portage provides an easy way to lower the priority with the PORTAGE_NICENESS value. 2008/5/14 Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Andrey Falko wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 13 May 2008, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Hello guys, in which configuration file can I set a nice level for X11? (this makes all graphical software run much faster, at least when I used Debian). Nice factor for X makes graphical software run fater? I don't thinl so. Not at all. Nice factor gives X priority, so if you are compiling something and X's priority is high, you'll be using X as if nothing was being compiled. Only if you are root. As a normal user, you can only lower the priority of a process. -- Josh signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
On Wednesday 14 May 2008, Josh Cepek wrote: lapitopi gyuszk # snice -15 X As already pointed out, running process with a nice value less than 0 can only be done by root, and it's usually a really bad idea to run your entire X session as root. X (and applications running under X) involve a lot of code, and vulnerabilities can exist in this code. I think you don't know how X runs. X *always* runs as root on Linux so whether you nice it to 19 or -19 is not relevant. It was only very very recently that someone got X to run as a user. Do you disagree or should I elaborate? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Nice level for X11
On AD 2008 May 13 Tuesday 09:50:24 PM +0200, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Hello guys, in which configuration file can I set a nice level for X11? (this makes all graphical software run much faster, at least when I used Debian). Before trying this, there are some kernel modifications you can try: preemptible kernel timer frequency - 1000 Hz Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] KDE-4.0.4 (not a nag)
Hi everybody, does anybody know what's happening to KDE4 in gentoo land ? Gentoo-KDE folks were pretty responsive with previous 4.0.x releases updating portage tree etc., but now I can't find much updates on what's happening with 4.0.4. Was it 3.5.9 preparations that took priority? Note: this message is not a nag, it's just my curiosity speaking (well and desire to finally switch to KDE4 as 4.0.3 had some glitches and functionality gaps that prevented my permanent switch so far). -- Dmitry Makovey Web Systems Administrator Athabasca University (780) 675-6245 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why does my system still want gcc 3.4.9?
Am Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.2.3 ldd /usr/bin/lzma This works. Good. If this works, try running env-update source /etc/profile, then just ldd /usr/bin/lzma again. Unfortunately, this doesn't work. Did you check /etc/ld.so.conf, maybe 4.1.2 is still listed before 4.2.3? You may also need to clean up /etc/env.d a bit and running gcc-config again afterwards also seems to be a good idea. HTH... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why does my system still want gcc 3.4.9?
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 06:40:24PM +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Did you check /etc/ld.so.conf, maybe 4.1.2 is still listed before 4.2.3? You may also need to clean up /etc/env.d a bit and running gcc-config again afterwards also seems to be a good idea. Thanks. I started looking at it last night, but it was a warm night after a long day and I left it for this morning. 4.1.2 is in ld.so.conf, and in two env.d files: # ls -l `grep -l 4.1.2 05*` -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 243 Feb 16 2007 05compiler -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 293 May 12 01:58 05gcc-i686-pc-linux-gnu The 05compiler file is so old that I suspect it is some kind of flotsam and needs to be deleted. The 05gcc file only includes 4.1.2 on the LDPATH line, but after 4.2.3, and its MANPATH, INFOPATH, PATH, and ROOTPATH entries are all 4.2.3 only. equery belongs doesn't know about either one. So I moved 05compiler out of the way (I want to preserve that time stamp just in case I do need to restore it), ran env-update again, and now lzma is happy. I can run man again! Things which failed emerge now build -- 323 to go. I wonder what lessons I have learned? I misled myself into thinking it was a compile problem because I didn't realize one lib could handle multiple versions. I probably didn't follow post merge instructions somewhen and that started the bitrot. I didn't take the hint when remerging lzma several times made no difference. Thanks again. I hope I don't need to ask for more help :-) -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant hammering from Chinese IPs on prt 102[67]
Mick wrote: This is typical grc.com style FUD for paranoid MSWindows users. He is a really good salesman in IT snakeoil (his background is in marketing). I'll second this. He's clown. kashani -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] libmad.la missing
Hi folks, libmad-0.2.1 doens't install libmad.la. Programs linking to it fail during link stage. Is it a known issue? Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove gentoo-sources
Hi, Has emerge --depclean always removed older gentoo-sources or has something changed? I don't remember this operation. Maybe I'm forgetting something I already know on this subject but I'm drawing a blank this afternoon. I'm curious if there is a way to mask package from --depclean removing them. In this case it wants to remove my running kernel tree before I've updated to a newer kernel. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove gentoo-sources
On Wed, 14 May 2008 13:02:28 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Has emerge --depclean always removed older gentoo-sources or has something changed? I don't remember this operation. Maybe I'm forgetting something I already know on this subject but I'm drawing a blank this afternoon. I'm curious if there is a way to mask package from --depclean removing them. In this case it wants to remove my running kernel tree before I've updated to a newer kernel. It's a recent change, where it now want to remove all but the newest version. You can fix this by adding specific versions to world, or by not running --depclean during a kernel upgrade. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 45: Resident alien signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] libmad.la missing
On Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, libmad-0.2.1 doens't install libmad.la. Programs linking to it fail during link stage. Is it a known issue? there is no 'libmad-0.2.1' on my system. But probably you are hit by flameeyes test. Just revdep-rebuilt. Or install libmad-0.15.1b-r5 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove gentoo-sources
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 14 May 2008 13:02:28 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Has emerge --depclean always removed older gentoo-sources or has something changed? I don't remember this operation. Maybe I'm forgetting something I already know on this subject but I'm drawing a blank this afternoon. I'm curious if there is a way to mask package from --depclean removing them. In this case it wants to remove my running kernel tree before I've updated to a newer kernel. It's a recent change, where it now want to remove all but the newest version. You can fix this by adding specific versions to world, or by not running --depclean during a kernel upgrade. Thanks Neil. Adding specific versions to world is fine solution for me. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] possible gentoo-sources stuff-up
I just ran emerge --depclean and missed that it was going to remove gentoo-sources-2.6.22-r2, the sources for the kernel I'm currently using. Now what I'm not sure about is, do I need the sources, or is the kernel image in /boot sufficient. Do I need to build myself a new working kernel before I reboot again? I can't reemerge 2.6.22-r2 becuase it's no longer available. Thanks Matt -- %%% Dr. Matthew R. Lee Instituto Biologia Marina 'Jurgen Winter' Universidad Austral de Chile Campus Isla Teja Valdivia [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: meiochile.matthewlee.org %%% -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] possible gentoo-sources stuff-up
On Thursday 15 May 2008, Matthew R. Lee wrote: I just ran emerge --depclean and missed that it was going to remove gentoo-sources-2.6.22-r2, the sources for the kernel I'm currently using. Now what I'm not sure about is, do I need the sources, or is the kernel image in /boot sufficient. Do I need to build myself a new working kernel before I reboot again? I can't reemerge 2.6.22-r2 becuase it's no longer available. Thanks Hi Matt, The answer to why this happens is in a thread from earlier today when this happened to mark Knecht. Summary: This is a new thing that --depclean does. Just remerge the sources you want, put them in world if you want to guarantee that --depclean won't be overly helpful in future. As for the sources themselves, they are only needed to build a kernel or out-of-tree modules (ati drivers, ndiswrapper, vmware-modules, etc etc). You already have a working kernel, so you are safe. Gentoo does not require anything in /usr/src - unlike most binary distros it doesn't keep kernel headers there, they are somewhere else and completely unaffected by the presence or absence of full sources. If you do need to remerge the original sources, you can grab the original ebuild from the gentoo attic. Google will find it for you -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] possible gentoo-sources stuff-up
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 18:42:05 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 15 May 2008, Matthew R. Lee wrote: I just ran emerge --depclean and missed that it was going to remove gentoo-sources-2.6.22-r2, the sources for the kernel I'm currently using. Now what I'm not sure about is, do I need the sources, or is the kernel image in /boot sufficient. Do I need to build myself a new working kernel before I reboot again? I can't reemerge 2.6.22-r2 becuase it's no longer available. Thanks Hi Matt, The answer to why this happens is in a thread from earlier today when this happened to mark Knecht. Summary: This is a new thing that --depclean does. Just remerge the sources you want, put them in world if you want to guarantee that --depclean won't be overly helpful in future. As for the sources themselves, they are only needed to build a kernel or out-of-tree modules (ati drivers, ndiswrapper, vmware-modules, etc etc). You already have a working kernel, so you are safe. Gentoo does not require anything in /usr/src - unlike most binary distros it doesn't keep kernel headers there, they are somewhere else and completely unaffected by the presence or absence of full sources. If you do need to remerge the original sources, you can grab the original ebuild from the gentoo attic. Google will find it for you -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com Thanks for the info. I'm really not in the mood for building a new kernel. And I'll pay more attention in future, to --depclean and the list. Too much work at the moment Saludos Matt -- %%% Dr. Matthew R. Lee Instituto Biologia Marina 'Jurgen Winter' Universidad Austral de Chile Campus Isla Teja Valdivia [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: meiochile.matthewlee.org %%% -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] possible gentoo-sources stuff-up
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Matthew R. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just ran emerge --depclean and missed that it was going to remove gentoo-sources-2.6.22-r2, the sources for the kernel I'm currently using. Now what I'm not sure about is, do I need the sources, or is the kernel image in /boot sufficient. Do I need to build myself a new working kernel before I reboot again? I can't reemerge 2.6.22-r2 becuase it's no longer available. Thanks Matt -- %%% Dr. Matthew R. Lee As Alan said, I came across this earlier today. In my case gentoo-sources was the only think in the --depclean list so I didn't let emerge remove it but had I been presented with a longer list I could have easily missed it. To fix it, or be safe for the future when you are tired and not paying much attention, you can add lines by hand in /var/lib/portage/world sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:2.6.24-r7 sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:2.6.24-r8 Note the use of the colon instead of the dash. Don't ask me why but that's what works. With that I now have two kernels protected from this problem and can still, I believe, do an emerge -C on a specific kernel that I might want to get rid of in the future. Hope this helps, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] sendmail trb post update wrld and jump to openrc
Following a recent jump from pre openrc to post openrc via emerge -vuD world, sendmail is now failing to authenticate with my Smart host. I'll say in advance that I am not interested in switching MTAs for the inevitable suggestions to switch to a different MTA. Far as I know nothing has changed with my Smart Host... (comcast.net) and I haven't changed any sendmail config files. But following along with the smtp conversation with mail -v I see my messages meet a hefty pause at the point were my machine shakes hands with the smtp.comcast.net server. (The output is inlined at the end). There is no mention of authentication failing it just says the connection is `deferred' and then times out. Sendmail-8.14.2 here You can see from output below that the message makes it past my local submit agent and then following the line that says: 354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself . The connection is deferred and then times out. mail -v -s $DATE-$(hostname) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... 220 reader.local.lan ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Wed, 14 May 2008 18:19:21 -0500 EHLO reader.local.lan 250-reader.local.lan Hello reader.local.lan [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-EXPN 250-VERB 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP VERB 250 2.0.0 Verbose mode MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender ok RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DATA 250 2.1.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Recipient ok 354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself . 2 or more minute pause here 050 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Connecting to smtp.comcast.net via relay... 050 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Deferred: Connection timed out with smtp.comcast.net 250 2.0.0 m4ENJLAS003991 Message accepted for delivery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent (m4ENJLAS003991 Message accepted for delivery) Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] QUIT 221 2.0.0 reader.local.lan closing connection -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Constant hammering from Chinese IPs on prt 102[67]
Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It appears to be, at root, just another snivel about how MS does things with no substance. I understand it the other way round. It is not an active knocking on your ports, but a passive MS thing. Lots of Chinese bought a new computer with an MS operating system, which is sending out to the world. Justin, A moments thought would indicate that logic has a large flaw in it. MS is the largest selling OS world wide .. that would indicate I should see this traffic from all parts of the world. But what I see is probably 85 % chinese in origin. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Gnome wallpaper
My wallpaper doesnt come up when Gnome starts, snip Does 'nautilus' start? Try using 'nautilus --no-desktop'... Not sure if it tries to or not, but when I try to run it as you suggest, it dies; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ nautilus --no-desktop [1] 7059 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ Initializing gnome-mount extension ** (nautilus:7059): WARNING **: Failed to initialize libhal context: (null) : (null) ** (nautilus:7059): WARNING **: Could not initialize hal context Shutting down gnome-mount extension [1]+ Donenautilus --no-desktop [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ So I found hald wasn't running, so I've started it (and rc-update added it) and now I get a ton of these; ** Message: drive = 0 ** Message: volume = 0 Then it dies again;. [1]+ Donenautilus --no-desktop [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re enter chroot install
Hello, I have a installation that did not complete successfully. I need to re enter the chroot environment, using a install cd. For argue purposes, let's assume the hard drive is formatted exactly as the example in the handbook. All I want to do is emerge an older kernel and compile it. According to what I glean from the handbook, these are the minimal steps to re enter the chroot environment after a failed reboot: # mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo # mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot # mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc # mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev # chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash # env-update # source /etc/profile # export PS1=(chroot) $PS1 Anything else I missed? Any of the above steps that are not necessary? James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re enter chroot install
2008/5/15, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I have a installation that did not complete successfully. I need to re enter the chroot environment, using a install cd. For argue purposes, let's assume the hard drive is formatted exactly as the example in the handbook. All I want to do is emerge an older kernel and compile it. According to what I glean from the handbook, these are the minimal steps to re enter the chroot environment after a failed reboot: # mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo # mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot # mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc # mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev # chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash # env-update # source /etc/profile # export PS1=(chroot) $PS1 Anything else I missed? No. Any of the above steps that are not necessary? mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re enter chroot install
On Thu, 15 May 2008 00:56:29 + (UTC) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a installation that did not complete successfully. I need to re enter the chroot environment, using a install cd. For argue purposes, let's assume the hard drive is formatted exactly as the example in the handbook. All I want to do is emerge an older kernel and compile it. According to what I glean from the handbook, these are the minimal steps to re enter the chroot environment after a failed reboot: # mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo check... # mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot shouldn't be needed, you did this the first time right? # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot # mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc # mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev # chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash # env-update # source /etc/profile # export PS1=(chroot) $PS1 check... Anything else I missed? No, that looks about right. Any of the above steps that are not necessary? the mkdir... Rob. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re enter chroot install
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: # mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev [...] Any of the above steps that are not necessary? Other have commented about the .../boot stuff but in dozens of times chrooting during all kinds of install situations I've never done `mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev' And far as I know it never caused me a problem. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] possible gentoo-sources stuff-up
On Thursday 15 May 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: you can add lines by hand in /var/lib/portage/world sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:2.6.24-r7 sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:2.6.24-r8 Note the use of the colon instead of the dash. Don't ask me why but that's what works. You can't put version numbers into the world file, but you can use SLOTs indicated with a colon. Kernel packages are always SLOTted, each version get's it's own SLOT. That is so that you can have as many versions installed as you want. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
