Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-06 Thread Daniel Beecham
I agree with whoever said opera without mail is flying. It really is.
I cant see the major improvements in firefox as preposed - ie speed,
stability, memoryconsumption, etc. Opera still outdoes firefox imo.

On 7/4/08, Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes
 my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a
 pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder
 for some of you troubleshooters out there.

 There is something which lots of people have noticed. The suggested
 solution, which worked for me, was to change the X acceleration from XAA
 to EXA in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This will only work if your video driver
 supports EXA acceleration.
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[gentoo-user] libselinux.so.1 dependency problems

2008-07-06 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic
Since the package sys-libs/libselinux is masked --- at least on AMD64 
it is --- I ran


   emerge --depclean --verbose sys-libs/libselinux

and the only reverse dependency it reported was python-selinux. So I 
removed both packages and severely broke my system.


It turns out that many, many executables require libselinux.so.1, 
despite what the documentation of --depclean in man emerge says 
(or what I think it says -- is this a bug or operator error?)


I cobbled together a system that limps along thanks to the 2008.0 beta 
  LiveCD (which does not depend on libselinux.so.1), but I am unable 
to emerge a large number of packages that seem to silently depend on 
libselinux.so.1: the ebuilds fail when ld cannot find -lselinux.


I do not have USE=selinux anywhere, and I never have. There is no 
selinux in the output of emerge --info, and none of the build 
environment files I've checked contain selinux. libselinux.so.1 is 
not in directory in /etc/ld.so.conf.  Adding USE=-selinux on the 
command line or in /etc/make.conf does not make any difference.


revdep-rebuild lists 37 packages, in particular many GNOME packages, 
that depend on libselinux.so.1, but I don't seem to be able to 
re-emerge any of them.


I ran

for pkg in $(equery depends libselinux | cut -d' ' -f1); do
eix -e $(qatom ${pkg} | cut -d' ' -f2)
done

and every package shown that depends on libselinux has actually been 
installed with -selinux. (BTW, revdep-rebuild and equery depends 
don't agree on which packages depend on libselinux.so.1.)


What gives? Where does the -lselinux come from? How can I get rid of 
  this maddening dependency?


Thanks for any help.

BTW, as a temporary measure, I've created an empty libselinux.so.1 
that seems to satisfy ld.


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Re: [gentoo-user] grub boot problem

2008-07-06 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008 schrieb Matthew R. Lee:

[grub.conf]
default 0
   
timeout 30
   
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
   
title=Gentoo 2.6.22-r2
   
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.22-r2-2 root=/dev/sda3
video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
title=Gentoo 2.6.24-r8
   
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.24-r8 root=/dev/sda3
video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Ok,
 I figured out the problem, but no why it's happened. If you look at the
 output of ls -la /boot there is another folder /boot and within this a
 symlink /boot (./) By copying the kernel to this folder and modifiying the
 grub.conf in the associated /grub folder the the new kernel boots.
 Question is how did I come to have a cascade of boot folders and how do I
 get things back the way they should be?

Don't know how you got there, but to get things back to normal you should 
remove /boot/boot and make it a symlink to /boot:

cd /boot
rm -rf boot
ln -s . boot

I would also revise grub.conf a bit:

default 0
timeout 30
root (hd0,0)
splashimage=/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo 2.6.22-r2
kernel /kernel-2.6.22-r2 root=/dev/sda3 
video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED]  - On one line, of course

title=Gentoo 2.6.24-r8
kernel /kernel-2.6.24-r8 root=/dev/sda3 
video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Optionally, you could also reinstall grub to your MBR, by running grub (or was 
it grub-shell?) and issue the following commands:

root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0)

HTH...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Ekiga not finding v4l

2008-07-06 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 21:00 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 11:41:49AM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:
  On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 12:28 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
   For some reason when I run Ekiga it doesn't detect any v4l or v4l2
   drivers...Only picture...
   
   
  Does the OS detect your device? I.E:
  
   1. Do you see it in dmesg?
   2. Does a device get created (e.g. /dev/video0)
   3. Can you read from the device: e.g: $ ffmpeg -f video4linux2 -s
  800x600 -r 10 -i /dev/video0 test.avi
  
  Likely your problem is one of the 3.
  
  -a
  
  
 
 ackbar pobega # ffmpeg -f video4linux2 -s 800x600 -r 10 -i /dev/video0
 test.avi
 FFmpeg version SVN-rUNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2007 Fabrice Bellard, et
 al.
   configuration: --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib64 --shlibdir=/usr/lib64 
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --enable-static --enable-shared 
 --cc=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc --disable-altivec --disable-debug 
 --disable-audio-oss --disable-v4l --disable-v4l2 --disable-dv1394 
 --disable-network --disable-opts --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libvorbis 
 --enable-libogg --enable-x11grab --enable-libogg --enable-gpl --enable-pp 
 --disable-strip
   libavutil version: 49.4.0
   libavcodec version: 51.40.4
   libavformat version: 51.12.1
   built on Jul  2 2008 19:42:30, gcc: 4.1.2 (Gentoo 4.1.2 p1.1)
 Unknown input or output format: video4linux2
 
 Apparently ffmpeg can't use v4l2 either...Perhaps there is a package
 I've failed to emerge?

Note the --disable-v4l in your configuration.

Also apparently I am running a different version of ffmpeg than you are
so maybe the version you are running does not support V4L.

I assume 1 and 2 checked look fine?

Ekiga uses pwlib.  Did you enable the v4l[2] USE flag for pwlib?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread KH

Sebastian Günther schrieb:

* KH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [05.07.08 13:24]:
  

Hi,

after reading some emails from the list I have been trying to unmerge 
cdrkit and to emerge cdrtools. I aslo hat to unmerge dvd+rw-tools and kino. 
Anyway I am still not able to emerge cdrtools.


!!! Cannot write to '/usr/include/scsilib/scg'.
!!! Please check permissions and directories for broken symlinks.
!!! You may start the merge process again by using ebuild:
!!! ebuild /usr/portage/app-cdr/cdrtools/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha34.ebuild 
merge

!!! And finish by running this: env-update


than there is a very long list I can post if needed.

ls -lah /usr/include/scsilib/scg
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Jun 25 12:48 /usr/include/scsilib/scg - 
/usr/include/scsilib/usal


on my xterm there is red highlighting under the output.

What can I do to install cdrtools correctly to a working standard?



If I'm not mistaken, it means there is a dangling symlink.

if 
# ls -lah /usr/include/scsilib/usal
shows something like no such file or directory, then 
# rm /usr/include/scsilib/scg

and continue as above mentioned with
# ebuild /usr/portage/app-cdr/cdrtools/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha34.ebuild merge

HTH
Sebastian

P.S.: I don't use kino so just try a
# emerge -pvt kino
afterwards, to look what it tries to pull in.

  


Hi,
thanks for the help. looks like it is working now. I did not have the 
ebuild any more (tmpfs) but emerge did fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread KH

Mick schrieb:

On Saturday 05 July 2008, Sebastian Günther wrote:

  

P.S.: I don't use kino so just try a
# emerge -pvt kino
afterwards, to look what it tries to pull in.



I don't have cdrkit on my systems and it does not seem to have a dependency 
for kino:


# emerge -pvt kino

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] media-video/kino-1.2.0  USE=alsa dvdr gstreamer quicktime 
vorbis -gpac -lame -sox 10,388 kB 
[ebuild  N]  media-sound/rawrec-0.9.98  60 kB 
[ebuild  N]  media-libs/libiec61883-1.1.0  USE=-examples 359 kB 
[ebuild  N]  sys-libs/libavc1394-0.5.3  0 kB 
[ebuild  N]  media-libs/libdv-1.0.0-r2  USE=sdl xv -debug 0 kB 
[ebuild  N]  sys-libs/libraw1394-1.2.1  0 kB 


Total: 6 packages (6 new), Size of downloads: 10,806 kB

A revdep-rebuild -X -p -v would probably resolve the OP's problem.
  

Hi,

you are right. But it looks like kino depends on app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools. 
And this depends on cdrkit until you remove the broken symlink. cdrkit 
seems to steal the cdrtools dependencies from other programs.


emerge -av kino   


These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N] sys-libs/libavc1394-0.5.3  348 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/libsamplerate-0.1.2-r1  USE=-fftw -sndfile 
692 kB

[ebuild  N] media-libs/libiec61883-1.1.0  USE=-examples 359 kB
[ebuild  N] media-video/dvdauthor-0.6.11  0 kB
[ebuild  N] media-sound/rawrec-0.9.98  60 kB
[ebuild  N] app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools-7.1  138 kB
[ebuild  N] media-video/mjpegtools-1.8.0-r1  USE=X dv gtk png 
quicktime sse -3dnow -dga (-mmx) -sdl -v4l -yv12 1,446 kB
[ebuild  N] media-video/kino-1.2.0  USE=alsa dvdr lame quicktime 
vorbis -gpac -gstreamer -sox 0 kB


Total: 8 packages (8 new), Size of downloads: 3,040 kB

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]

kh


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 05 July 2008, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
 grep virtual/cdrtools
 /media/system/repositories/portage/profiles/**/virtuals
 /media/system/repositories/portage/profiles/base/virtuals:virtual/cdr
tools app-cdr/cdrkit

 That was what i am looking for, thanks! Why they did choose cdrkit in
 favor of cdrtools is a miracle to me! Maybe I will ask the maintainer
 about this!

Probably for the same reason Debian felt obliged to do the same - 
licensing issues. It is widely acknowledged that cdrtools is the 
superior code over cdrkit but large sections of the OSS community feel 
that cdrtools' license puts tham at risk, regardless of what Joerg 
(cdrtools maintainer) asserts in this matter.

But lets not start this useless debate all over again and simply 
acknowledge that some Gentoo dev made a decision and leave it at that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread KH

Alan McKinnon schrieb:

On Saturday 05 July 2008, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
  

grep virtual/cdrtools
/media/system/repositories/portage/profiles/**/virtuals
/media/system/repositories/portage/profiles/base/virtuals:virtual/cdr
tools app-cdr/cdrkit

That was what i am looking for, thanks! Why they did choose cdrkit in
favor of cdrtools is a miracle to me! Maybe I will ask the maintainer
about this!



Probably for the same reason Debian felt obliged to do the same - 
licensing issues. It is widely acknowledged that cdrtools is the 
superior code over cdrkit but large sections of the OSS community feel 
that cdrtools' license puts tham at risk, regardless of what Joerg 
(cdrtools maintainer) asserts in this matter.


But lets not start this useless debate all over again and simply 
acknowledge that some Gentoo dev made a decision and leave it at that.


  

http://gentoo-portage.com/app-cdr/cdrtools

the link under license is leading to nowhere. On the project page I have 
not been able to find a license, too (fast overview).


Where can I find the license?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Sebastian Günther
* KH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [06.07.08 10:33]:

 the link under license is leading to nowhere. On the project page I have 
 not been able to find a license, too (fast overview).

 Where can I find the license?


All licenses can be found under:
/usr/portage/licenses/

And emerge -s cdrtools shows you which files you have to read.

And the issue is not the licenses itself, but the mixing of the 
licenses in one project. 

 KH

HTH
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[gentoo-user] Re: DMRAID and complex setups

2008-07-06 Thread Florian Philipp
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:03:45 +0200
Francesco Talamona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 05 July 2008, Florian Philipp wrote:
  - Could I disable the kernel auto-detection and instead add a custom
  init-script prior to checkfs and localmount?
 
 It's impractical, check carefully all partitions with
 
 mdadm -E partition
 
 If it's not automatically assembled but you can do it manually, it
 means something is fooling mdadm.
 
 Try also to comment ARRAY lines in /etc/mdadm.conf.
 
 HTH
   Francesco
 
 What actually happens is that the kernel starts md1 (consisting of md0
and hdd7) BEFORE md0 (hda and hdb) is created. The most likely cause is
that the kernel starts its autodetection on the disk where /
(or /boot?) lie.

mdadm.conf has the following lines:

DEVICE /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb1
DEVICE /dev/md0 /dev/hdd7

ARRAY /dev/md0 devices=/dev/hda1,/dev/hdb1
ARRAY /dev/md1 devices=/dev/md0,/dev/hdd7

Since I can add kernel parameters for starting raids
(see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/md.txt) I'm thinking about telling
the kernel explicitly to start md0 in the hope that this happens
before autodetection.

Stay tuned ;)



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, KH wrote:

 you are right. But it looks like kino depends on app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools.
 And this depends on cdrkit until you remove the broken symlink. cdrkit
 seems to steal the cdrtools dependencies from other programs.

*rolleyes* it is not 'stealing' but 'virtuals'. You might want to look them 
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Probably for the same reason Debian felt obliged to do the same - 
 licensing issues. It is widely acknowledged that cdrtools is the 
 superior code over cdrkit but large sections of the OSS community feel 
 that cdrtools' license puts tham at risk, regardless of what Joerg 
 (cdrtools maintainer) asserts in this matter.

I am sorry to see that you are still a victim of a _few_ OSS trolls.

People who use their own brain should have no problem to understand that
applying the claims from those few Debian trolls (made against cdrtools) to 
cdrkit also would make cdrkit of course illegal.

Legal thoughts have similarities to mathemathics. If you make a claim that is 
incompatible with reality, this claim cannot be correct. None of the claims 
published by these OSS trolls is compatible with reality.


 But lets not start this useless debate all over again and simply 
 acknowledge that some Gentoo dev made a decision and leave it at that.

Why then do you start a debate based on obviously wrong claims?



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
KH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://gentoo-portage.com/app-cdr/cdrtools

 the link under license is leading to nowhere. On the project page I have 
 not been able to find a license, too (fast overview).

 Where can I find the license?

e.g. here: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/cddl1.php

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And the issue is not the licenses itself, but the mixing of the 
 licenses in one project. 

Your problem is not to understand the difference between project
and distribution.

I recommend _you_ to read the license indormation that comes with cdrtools and 
please do not start a new license debate that leads to nowhere.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:43:01 -0500
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi again,
 
 After getting a LOT of help on this, I got it sorted out.  This is
 what is installed:
 
 [ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.8 [1.1.6] USE=unicode -hfs 0 kB
 [ebuild U ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r1 [1.0.4] USE=alsa arts dvdr
 dvdread encode hal mp3 vorbis -css -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac
 -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd -xinerama LINGUAS=-af -ar -bg
 -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga
 -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl
 -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -se -sk -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN
 -zh_TW 0 kB
 

Actually if you don't care about the GUI and compatibility with other
systems, you can do DVD burning with growisofs only (without
mkisofs/genisoimage respectively from cdrtools or cdrkit).

 I also noticed something else that was funny.  I added the line to 
 fstab but sort of forgot something else.  This is one of my blonde 
 moments here, not blonde but anyway.  I forgot to make the mount
 point, you know, the hdd directory in /media.   Dale slaps forehead 
 

AFAIK this might cause problems if you use auto-mounting software and
forget to disable it before writing.


 The proof is in the puddin tho:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/hdd/
 total 4194346
 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root112 2008-07-04 14:22 .
 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root192 2008-07-04 14:21 ..
 -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4295007744 2008-07-04 12:32 
 Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
 
 That's a BIG file.  Now I want a blue ray thingy.  o_O  Then I can
 make HUGE files.  lol



The good part is that you don't need isofs for DVDs. Actually
you don't need any fs at all. You could write files like this:

growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar

Unfortunately I have I/O errors (ruined media) often with this method,
so I use:

tar cp path/to/files | \
pipebench -q -b 5000 | \
growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=/dev/fd/0

pipebench is in portage and provides two important advantages:
- you can check the speed and make adjustments it if necessary
- you can adjust the buffer (-b)


To restore the files from the above backup:

tar xpf /dev/dvd

It works perfectly for me.

You can burn this way images with your preferred FS.



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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] f-prot

2008-07-06 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:32:17 -0500
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   It worked fine here. 


Thanks!

That was all I needed to know, that the problem is only mine. As Alan
proposed I sniffed the traffic and found there was a header
(User-Agent=MSIE) which was making the server say something like this
OS is not supported. Now everything is fine.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DMRAID and complex setups

2008-07-06 Thread Florian Philipp
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:32:36 +0200
Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:03:45 +0200
 Francesco Talamona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Saturday 05 July 2008, Florian Philipp wrote:
   - Could I disable the kernel auto-detection and instead add a
   custom init-script prior to checkfs and localmount?
  
  It's impractical, check carefully all partitions with
  
  mdadm -E partition
  
  If it's not automatically assembled but you can do it manually, it
  means something is fooling mdadm.
  
  Try also to comment ARRAY lines in /etc/mdadm.conf.
  
  HTH
  Francesco
  
  What actually happens is that the kernel starts md1 (consisting of
 md0 and hdd7) BEFORE md0 (hda and hdb) is created. The most likely
 cause is that the kernel starts its autodetection on the disk where /
 (or /boot?) lie.
 
 mdadm.conf has the following lines:
 
 DEVICE /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb1
 DEVICE /dev/md0 /dev/hdd7
 
 ARRAY /dev/md0 devices=/dev/hda1,/dev/hdb1
 ARRAY /dev/md1 devices=/dev/md0,/dev/hdd7
 
 Since I can add kernel parameters for starting raids
 (see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/md.txt) I'm thinking about telling
 the kernel explicitly to start md0 in the hope that this happens
 before autodetection.
 
 Stay tuned ;)
 

Eureka!

The kernel boot-parameter
raid=noautodetect md=0,/dev/hda1,/dev/hdb1 md=1,/dev/hdd7,/dev/md0

seem to work. Now the raids are built in the right order.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Grub on a new disk

2008-07-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 05 July 2008, Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 05 July 2008, Florian Philipp wrote:
  On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:06:31 +0100
 
  Then I've installed grub into hda's MBR. Then something odd happened:
  Stage1.5 loads quiet fast but then Grub hangs once again of ~20sec
  with: Grub loading, please wait ...
 
  Since that is the moment when Grub accesses /dev/hdd for the first
  time, I think it could really be a problem with the hard disk, however,
  one that doesn't affect anything else. Maybe an automatic SMART
  self-test at boot-up? I'll investigate and as a workaround I'll get an
  SD-card or cheap USB-stick for Grub, since - unfortunately - the kernel
  is too big to fit on a floppy.

 I know what I would have done - right from the start.  Not used
 grub-install. Not installed it in every single disk.  Not installed it in
 any partition, unless I intended to chainload separately the GRUB
 bootloader of the said partition.  Now, I know that this doesn't help and
 won't resolve your issue, but perhaps next time . . .

 I am not sure how GRUB goes about probing and reading boot sectors at boot
 time.  As I understand it at the time it is installed in an MBR, the
 position of the grub fs is also written in there right after the boot code.
  At boot time the boot code (stage1) jumps to the block device where grub's
 root fs is stored to read and execute stage1.5 which can read the /boot
 device fs and then read the stage2 files, which finally go and load the
 main OS kernel image.  Assuming this is correct, then what you have
 installed in the MBR of hdb and hdd and the partition boot sector of hdd1
 is irrelevant and it *should not* make grub take so long.

 That's the reason why I said something hardware-wise may be amiss, although
 I can see that your checks and reasoning are sound.

Just in case, you may want to try this:

# grub  --Also use --no-floppy if it hangs probing a floppy drive that 
doesn't exist--
grub root (hd2,0)  --If your /boot drive is e.g. in /dev/hdd1)--
grub setup (hd0)  --This will re-install GRUB in the MBR of /dev/hda--
grub quit

If this does not help then I am not sure what else might fix it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, KH wrote:

  you are right. But it looks like kino depends on app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools.
  And this depends on cdrkit until you remove the broken symlink. cdrkit
  seems to steal the cdrtools dependencies from other programs.

 *rolleyes* it is not 'stealing' but 'virtuals'. You might want to look them 
 up.

cdrkit is not allowed to use the names cdrecord, cdda2wav, mkisofs and 
similar.

In addition: grosisofs depends on features that are in the original software 
but not in the clone. 

Why do you believe that you may install cdrkit instead of cdrtools?

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DMRAID and complex setups

2008-07-06 Thread Florian Philipp
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:02:14 +0300
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:32:36 +0200
 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:03:45 +0200
  Francesco Talamona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Saturday 05 July 2008, Florian Philipp wrote:
- Could I disable the kernel auto-detection and instead add a
custom init-script prior to checkfs and localmount?
   
   It's impractical, check carefully all partitions with
   
   mdadm -E partition
   
   If it's not automatically assembled but you can do it manually, it
   means something is fooling mdadm.
   
   Try also to comment ARRAY lines in /etc/mdadm.conf.
   
   HTH
 Francesco
   
   What actually happens is that the kernel starts md1 (consisting of
  md0 and hdd7) BEFORE md0 (hda and hdb) is created. The most likely
  cause is that the kernel starts its autodetection on the disk
  where / (or /boot?) lie.
  
  mdadm.conf has the following lines:
  
  DEVICE /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb1
  DEVICE /dev/md0 /dev/hdd7
  
  ARRAY /dev/md0 devices=/dev/hda1,/dev/hdb1
  ARRAY /dev/md1 devices=/dev/md0,/dev/hdd7
  
  Since I can add kernel parameters for starting raids
  (see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/md.txt) I'm thinking about telling
  the kernel explicitly to start md0 in the hope that this happens
  before autodetection.
  
  Stay tuned ;)
  
 
 You could also try something like this in local.start:
 
 
 mdadm --stop /dev/md0
 mdadm --stop /dev/md1
 
 mdadm -A /dev/md0 --uuid the UUID of md0 -c partitions
 mdadm -A /dev/md1 --uuid the UUID of md1 -c partitions
 
 

It would not have been that easy because at that point, there would
be an active lvm volume group on that raid and because the raid would
already have been assembled it would need a resync after the next
complete assembly.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, KH wrote:
   you are right. But it looks like kino depends on app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools.
   And this depends on cdrkit until you remove the broken symlink. cdrkit
   seems to steal the cdrtools dependencies from other programs.
 
  *rolleyes* it is not 'stealing' but 'virtuals'. You might want to look
  them up.

 cdrkit is not allowed to use the names cdrecord, cdda2wav, mkisofs
 and similar.

AFAIK it doesn't. There might be some symlinks created. Ask someone using 
cdrkit.


 In addition: grosisofs depends on features that are in the original
 software but not in the clone.

in that case it should have a 'hard' dependency on cdrtools and not the the 
virtual.


 Why do you believe that you may install cdrkit instead of cdrtools?

I don't believe anything. There is a concept called 'virtuals' in gentoo. If 
several pieces of software are able fill the same 'void', they are grouped 
into a virtual and the user can choose which one he wants to use. Freedom of 
choice is important for gentoo. There are of course defaults, if some package 
is is 'sane', so that the user does not have to babysit long emerges and other 
reasons. But cdrecord/cdrkit is not the only example. Just have a look at 
/usr/portage/profiles//virtuals there are several. And lo and behold, some 
virtuals have cdrtools set as default for the corresponding virtual.

find /usr/portage/profiles -name virtuals -exec cat {} \;

gives you a lot of hits. You can ask the responsible devs why/if cdrkit is the 
default. If you ask politly I am sure they will answer.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Grub on a new disk

2008-07-06 Thread Florian Philipp
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:08:29 +0100
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Just in case, you may want to try this:
 
 # grub  --Also use --no-floppy if it hangs probing a floppy drive
 that doesn't exist--
 grub root (hd2,0)  --If your /boot drive is e.g. in /dev/hdd1)--
 grub setup (hd0)  --This will re-install GRUB in the MBR
 grub of /dev/hda-- quit
 
 If this does not help then I am not sure what else might fix it.

I thought I had already done this but just to make sure, I've done it
again - no effect.

If there is really some kind to self-test going on, it's invisible to
smartctl. A short self-test showed no errors, either.

I'll look out for firmware updates for that disk and will buy a small
SD/MMC/CF-card for testing. Maybe I'll also ask the Grub-guys whether
they have any ideas.

Thanks anyway! At least I know it's not just me who is confused by this
behavior.


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Re: [gentoo-user] grub boot problem

2008-07-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:04:08 -0400, Matthew R. Lee wrote:

 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.22-r2-2 root=/dev/sda3 
 video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If hd0,0 is your boot partition, you shouldn't have /boot in the kernel
line, just

kernel /kernel-2.6.22-r2-2 root=/dev/sda3 

In GRUB, all paths are relative to the root.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Dale

Daniel Iliev wrote:

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:43:01 -0500
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Hi again,

After getting a LOT of help on this, I got it sorted out.  This is
what is installed:

[ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.8 [1.1.6] USE=unicode -hfs 0 kB
[ebuild U ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r1 [1.0.4] USE=alsa arts dvdr
dvdread encode hal mp3 vorbis -css -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac
-musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd -xinerama LINGUAS=-af -ar -bg
-br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga
-gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl
-pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -se -sk -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN
-zh_TW 0 kB




Actually if you don't care about the GUI and compatibility with other
systems, you can do DVD burning with growisofs only (without
mkisofs/genisoimage respectively from cdrtools or cdrkit).

  
I also noticed something else that was funny.  I added the line to 
fstab but sort of forgot something else.  This is one of my blonde 
moments here, not blonde but anyway.  I forgot to make the mount

point, you know, the hdd directory in /media.   Dale slaps forehead 




AFAIK this might cause problems if you use auto-mounting software and
forget to disable it before writing.


  

The proof is in the puddin tho:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/hdd/
total 4194346
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root112 2008-07-04 14:22 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root192 2008-07-04 14:21 ..
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4295007744 2008-07-04 12:32 
Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar

[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

That's a BIG file.  Now I want a blue ray thingy.  o_O  Then I can
make HUGE files.  lol





The good part is that you don't need isofs for DVDs. Actually
you don't need any fs at all. You could write files like this:

growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar

Unfortunately I have I/O errors (ruined media) often with this method,
so I use:

tar cp path/to/files | \
pipebench -q -b 5000 | \
growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=/dev/fd/0

pipebench is in portage and provides two important advantages:
- you can check the speed and make adjustments it if necessary
- you can adjust the buffer (-b)


To restore the files from the above backup:

tar xpf /dev/dvd

It works perfectly for me.

You can burn this way images with your preferred FS.

  


Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way.  I'm not sure why 
but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files.  Anybody know about the upper 
limits on tar?


Also, is there a incremental GUI back-ip tool?  I found reoback but 
haven't tried it yet.  I like Kbackup but it is all or nothing.


Dale

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[gentoo-user] spamassassin-3.2.1-r1 emerge failure

2008-07-06 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
For reasons discussed elsewhere, I've got to get serious about spam.  But my
first 3 attempts to emerge spamassassin have failed. (on x86).

For one thing, there's a detection process near the beginning that is
failing to detect Perl modules that are actually present, and from portage
not CPAN.
First it was Digest-SHA1.  Re-emerging it fixed that, so maybe there was
bitrot somewhere.  But now it's doing the same thing with Mail::DKIM, but
that's fortunately not a show-stopper like SHA1, but it's still worrisome.

Now the show-stopper is some access violations that make no sense to me.  It
says it could not 'mkdir /usr/share/spamassassin', but I could do it
from the command line (as root).  Having done it, it still complained but
proceeded to report an access violation on an attempt to 'chmod 0644
something'.
I could also do that one from the command-line.  G.

Has anyone seen this, and know of a workaround?

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub boot problem

2008-07-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:04:08 -0400, Matthew R. Lee wrote:
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.22-r2-2 root=/dev/sda3
  video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If hd0,0 is your boot partition, you shouldn't have /boot in the kernel
 line, just

 kernel /kernel-2.6.22-r2-2 root=/dev/sda3

 In GRUB, all paths are relative to the root.

really? I boot this for years, after nothing else worked:

title=2.6
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 nmi_watchdog=0

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub boot problem

2008-07-06 Thread Mick
On Sunday 06 July 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:04:08 -0400, Matthew R. Lee wrote:
   root (hd0,0)
   kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.22-r2-2 root=/dev/sda3
   video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  If hd0,0 is your boot partition, you shouldn't have /boot in the kernel
  line, just
 
  kernel /kernel-2.6.22-r2-2 root=/dev/sda3
 
  In GRUB, all paths are relative to the root.

 really? I boot this for years, after nothing else worked:

 title=2.6
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 nmi_watchdog=0

Hmm, have you this in place?

lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   1 Mar 26  2006 boot - .

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dale wrote:
 Daniel Iliev wrote:
  On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:43:01 -0500
 
  Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi again,
 
  After getting a LOT of help on this, I got it sorted out.  This is
  what is installed:
 
  [ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.8 [1.1.6] USE=unicode -hfs 0 kB
  [ebuild U ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r1 [1.0.4] USE=alsa arts dvdr
  dvdread encode hal mp3 vorbis -css -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac
  -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd -xinerama LINGUAS=-af -ar -bg
  -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga
  -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl
  -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -se -sk -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN
  -zh_TW 0 kB
 
  Actually if you don't care about the GUI and compatibility with other
  systems, you can do DVD burning with growisofs only (without
  mkisofs/genisoimage respectively from cdrtools or cdrkit).
 
  I also noticed something else that was funny.  I added the line to
  fstab but sort of forgot something else.  This is one of my blonde
  moments here, not blonde but anyway.  I forgot to make the mount
  point, you know, the hdd directory in /media.   Dale slaps forehead 
 
  AFAIK this might cause problems if you use auto-mounting software and
  forget to disable it before writing.
 
  The proof is in the puddin tho:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/hdd/
  total 4194346
  dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root112 2008-07-04 14:22 .
  drwxr-xr-x 5 root root192 2008-07-04 14:21 ..
  -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4295007744 2008-07-04 12:32
  Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
 
  That's a BIG file.  Now I want a blue ray thingy.  o_O  Then I can
  make HUGE files.  lol
 
  The good part is that you don't need isofs for DVDs. Actually
  you don't need any fs at all. You could write files like this:
 
  growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar
 
  Unfortunately I have I/O errors (ruined media) often with this method,
  so I use:
 
  tar cp path/to/files | \
  pipebench -q -b 5000 | \
  growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=/dev/fd/0
 
  pipebench is in portage and provides two important advantages:
  - you can check the speed and make adjustments it if necessary
  - you can adjust the buffer (-b)
 
 
  To restore the files from the above backup:
 
  tar xpf /dev/dvd
 
  It works perfectly for me.
 
  You can burn this way images with your preferred FS.

 Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way.  I'm not sure why
 but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files.  Anybody know about the upper
 limits on tar?


emm. It should be handle to at least 8gb. And since I use tar to write to my 
280gb tapelib ... and this guy used a 21gb tarball for his tests:
http://bulk.fefe.de/lk2006/bench.html

you are doing something wrong.
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub boot problem

2008-07-06 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008 schrieb Mick:

 Hmm, have you this in place?

 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   1 Mar 26  2006 boot - .

I still wonder why it's needed.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub boot problem

2008-07-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 06 July 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008 schrieb Mick:
  Hmm, have you this in place?
 
  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   1 Mar 26  2006 boot - .

 I still wonder why it's needed.

So that people who can't wrap their brains around how grub works (i.e. 
it is NOT linux) can get the thing to work. So

kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=...
will boot, as well as
kernel /vmlinuz root=...


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Re: [gentoo-user] grub boot problem

2008-07-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 06 July 2008, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
   On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:04:08 -0400, Matthew R. Lee wrote:
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.22-r2-2 root=/dev/sda3
video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   If hd0,0 is your boot partition, you shouldn't have /boot in the kernel
   line, just
  
   kernel /kernel-2.6.22-r2-2 root=/dev/sda3
  
   In GRUB, all paths are relative to the root.
 
  really? I boot this for years, after nothing else worked:
 
  title=2.6
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 nmi_watchdog=0

 Hmm, have you this in place?

 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   1 Mar 26  2006 boot - .


yes.
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub boot problem

2008-07-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

 What's this nmi_watchdog=0 good for (just curious)?

to make sure it is off ;)

I once read (also a long time ago) that the nmi-watchdog could/would/does slow 
down disk io.
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Dale

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dale wrote:
  


Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way.  I'm not sure why
but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files.  Anybody know about the upper
limits on tar?




emm. It should be handle to at least 8gb. And since I use tar to write to my 
280gb tapelib ... and this guy used a 21gb tarball for his tests:

http://bulk.fefe.de/lk2006/bench.html

you are doing something wrong.
  


Well, Kdar does the making part.  I'm not doing anything fancy when 
unpacking it but when I do it with it set to 4.7Gb, I get a error about 
half way though unpacking.  I can't recall the error at the moment but I 
should be able to reproduce it if needed.


I was thinking tar could handle huge files which is what confuses me.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 06 July 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Probably for the same reason Debian felt obliged to do the same -
  licensing issues. It is widely acknowledged that cdrtools is the
  superior code over cdrkit but large sections of the OSS community
  feel that cdrtools' license puts tham at risk, regardless of what
  Joerg (cdrtools maintainer) asserts in this matter.

 I am sorry to see that you are still a victim of a _few_ OSS trolls.

Joerg, please, for the love of all that is holy and small furry animals, 
let it go.

The OP asked a question about why a virtual has a certain default. I 
answered with the obvious answer which has to do with the point of view 
of the maintainer (who is not me). I said nothing about what I think in 
the matter, and I won't as it is in no way relevant.

[snip]

  But lets not start this useless debate all over again and simply
  acknowledge that some Gentoo dev made a decision and leave it at
  that.

 Why then do you start a debate based on obviously wrong claims?

I'm not starting anything. See above.

As a token of respect for all the work you have done for many years with 
optical media and for your impressive level of coding competence, I am 
not going to fight with you and will instead simply ask you to drop 
this now. You have been given an audience here, you have been granted 
ample and fair opportunity to state your position and you have done so. 
No-one reading this list for the last fortnight is in any doubt about 
your point of view. Some agree with you, some don't. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:19:09 -0500, Dale wrote:

 Well, Kdar does the making part.  I'm not doing anything fancy when 
 unpacking it but when I do it with it set to 4.7Gb, I get a error about 
 half way though unpacking.  I can't recall the error at the moment but
 I should be able to reproduce it if needed.
 
 I was thinking tar could handle huge files which is what confuses me.

Kdar makes dar archives, not tar archives.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dale wrote:
 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dale wrote:
  Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way.  I'm not sure why
  but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files.  Anybody know about the upper
  limits on tar?
 
  emm. It should be handle to at least 8gb. And since I use tar to write to
  my 280gb tapelib ... and this guy used a 21gb tarball for his tests:
  http://bulk.fefe.de/lk2006/bench.html
 
  you are doing something wrong.

 Well, Kdar does the making part.  I'm not doing anything fancy when
 unpacking it but when I do it with it set to 4.7Gb, I get a error about
 half way though unpacking.  I can't recall the error at the moment but I
 should be able to reproduce it if needed.

 I was thinking tar could handle huge files which is what confuses me.

 Dale

 :-)

tar can handle single files of 8gb and archives of enourmous sizes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ekiga not finding v4l

2008-07-06 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 02:22:08AM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 21:00 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
  On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 11:41:49AM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:
   On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 12:28 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
For some reason when I run Ekiga it doesn't detect any v4l or v4l2
drivers...Only picture...


   Does the OS detect your device? I.E:
   
1. Do you see it in dmesg?
2. Does a device get created (e.g. /dev/video0)
3. Can you read from the device: e.g: $ ffmpeg -f video4linux2 -s
   800x600 -r 10 -i /dev/video0 test.avi
   
   Likely your problem is one of the 3.
   
   -a
   
   
  
  ackbar pobega # ffmpeg -f video4linux2 -s 800x600 -r 10 -i /dev/video0
  test.avi
  FFmpeg version SVN-rUNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2007 Fabrice Bellard, et
  al.
configuration: --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib64 --shlibdir=/usr/lib64 
  --mandir=/usr/share/man --enable-static --enable-shared 
  --cc=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc --disable-altivec --disable-debug 
  --disable-audio-oss --disable-v4l --disable-v4l2 --disable-dv1394 
  --disable-network --disable-opts --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libvorbis 
  --enable-libogg --enable-x11grab --enable-libogg --enable-gpl --enable-pp 
  --disable-strip
libavutil version: 49.4.0
libavcodec version: 51.40.4
libavformat version: 51.12.1
built on Jul  2 2008 19:42:30, gcc: 4.1.2 (Gentoo 4.1.2 p1.1)
  Unknown input or output format: video4linux2
  
  Apparently ffmpeg can't use v4l2 either...Perhaps there is a package
  I've failed to emerge?
 
 Note the --disable-v4l in your configuration.
 
 Also apparently I am running a different version of ffmpeg than you are
 so maybe the version you are running does not support V4L.
 
 I assume 1 and 2 checked look fine?
 
 Ekiga uses pwlib.  Did you enable the v4l[2] USE flag for pwlib?
 
 -a
 

That was the problem! But now I have another issue, because my
microphone doesn't seem to want to work in Ekiga ... I can get playback
through my speakers (using alsamixer) but no matter what I do I can't
get Ekiga's echoing system to echo back my microphone
(sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ... It's frustrating at this point in time, but I
hope this is as easily solvable as the webcam issue. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way.  I'm not sure why
  but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files.  Anybody know about the upper
  limits on tar?
 

 emm. It should be handle to at least 8gb. And since I use tar to write to my 
 280gb tapelib ... and this guy used a 21gb tarball for his tests:
 http://bulk.fefe.de/lk2006/bench.html

 you are doing something wrong.

Well, quoting a troll like fefe is not a good idea too. The page is full of 
nonsense. OK, it at least mentions a 21 GB tar archive but not a tar archive
with a 21 GB file inside.

The historic tar archive format supports single files up to 8 GB in tar 
archives. Since POSIX.1-2001, the extended tar archive format (called pax)
has no size limitations.

Linux typically does not come with tar but with a tar clone called GNU tar 
that by default does not write standard compliant archives but it does not have 
a 4.7 GB limit.

Putting tar archives directly on CD/DVD media works, but it may confuse people.
When discussing the best way for putting large files on DVDs, you should take 
into account that people who insert a medium that does not get automounted 
typically believe that there is a problem with the medium.

This is why I added support for files  4 GB to mkisofs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The OP asked a question about why a virtual has a certain default. I 
 answered with the obvious answer which has to do with the point of view 
 of the maintainer (who is not me). I said nothing about what I think in 
 the matter, and I won't as it is in no way relevant.

Could you explain me why you started to publish incorrect claims about cdrtools?

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:19:09 -0500, Dale wrote:

  
Well, Kdar does the making part.  I'm not doing anything fancy when 
unpacking it but when I do it with it set to 4.7Gb, I get a error about 
half way though unpacking.  I can't recall the error at the moment but

I should be able to reproduce it if needed.

I was thinking tar could handle huge files which is what confuses me.



Kdar makes dar archives, not tar archives.


  


I'm using Kbackup not kdar.  Two different things.  I think Kdar is dead. 


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Dale

Joerg Schilling wrote:

Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way.  I'm not sure why
but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files.  Anybody know about the upper
limits on tar?

  
emm. It should be handle to at least 8gb. And since I use tar to write to my 
280gb tapelib ... and this guy used a 21gb tarball for his tests:

http://bulk.fefe.de/lk2006/bench.html

you are doing something wrong.



Well, quoting a troll like fefe is not a good idea too. The page is full of 
nonsense. OK, it at least mentions a 21 GB tar archive but not a tar archive

with a 21 GB file inside.

The historic tar archive format supports single files up to 8 GB in tar 
archives. Since POSIX.1-2001, the extended tar archive format (called pax)

has no size limitations.

Linux typically does not come with tar but with a tar clone called GNU tar 
that by default does not write standard compliant archives but it does not have 
a 4.7 GB limit.


Putting tar archives directly on CD/DVD media works, but it may confuse people.
When discussing the best way for putting large files on DVDs, you should take 
into account that people who insert a medium that does not get automounted 
typically believe that there is a problem with the medium.


This is why I added support for files  4 GB to mkisofs.

Jörg

  


How did you add support for that?  Are you talking about the program 
itself or a USE flag?


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub boot problem

2008-07-06 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
 On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
  What's this nmi_watchdog=0 good for (just curious)?

 to make sure it is off ;)

Got me ;) So what's this nmi_watchdog good for?

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [06.07.08 12:44]:
 Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  And the issue is not the licenses itself, but the mixing of the 
  licenses in one project. 
 
 Your problem is not to understand the difference between project
 and distribution.
 
Sorry, wrong term. You're right, the problem is about distributions.

This is a free software license. It has a copyleft with a scope that's 
similar to the one in the Mozilla Public License, which makes it 
incompatible with the GNU GPL. This means a module covered by the GPL 
and a module covered by the CDDL cannot legally be linked together. We 
urge you not to use the CDDL for this reason.

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/index_html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses

And this is the problem, that e.g. Debian has.

This is just a very short explaination to the poster, who has asked for 
where to find the licenses!

*No need to debate*

 I recommend _you_ to read the license indormation that comes with cdrtools 
 and 
 please do not start a new license debate that leads to nowhere.
 

I won't read anything related to cdrtools anymore. I won't install it, 
nor recommend anyone to use it.

And this is not about any licensing issue, it is about your way of 
*communicating*.

I still remember the time, when I had to download some license key to 
get DVDs burned. That was also pretty annoying.

 Jörg
 

You just did yourself *again* what the Germans call Bärendienst

One pissed of soul
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [06.07.08 16:13]:
 Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way.  I'm not sure why 
 but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files.  Anybody know about the upper limits 
 on tar?

Maybe it is more a problem of the specific fs, where you try to create 
it. If there the blocksize is to small (1024) then there is your 
problem.

What does dumpe2fs -h says about the blocksize of the specific device?

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-06 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 11:32:39AM +0100, Penguin Lover Graham Murray squawked:
 Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes
  my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a
  pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder
  for some of you troubleshooters out there.
 
 There is something which lots of people have noticed. The suggested
 solution, which worked for me, was to change the X acceleration from XAA
 to EXA in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. This will only work if your video driver
 supports EXA acceleration. 

Where is this suggestion mentioned? Is there a bug number?

I cannot use EXA on my laptop because of an old bug with
xorg-ati-radeon that gives a CPU spike with EXA. Furthermore, when I
experimented a small bit with using EXA (X and fvwm was very
unresponsive, but it doesn't crash), most of the sites with the visual
glitch problem were fixed, but a few different ones started having a
different glitch, and a few of the sites that had a glitch now has a
more minor, less noticeable glitch. 

I would like to track this bug/forum post to see if a more mature
solution is proposed. 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [06.07.08 12:44]:
  Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   And the issue is not the licenses itself, but the mixing of the 
   licenses in one project. 
  
  Your problem is not to understand the difference between project
  and distribution.
  
 Sorry, wrong term. You're right, the problem is about distributions.

 This is a free software license. It has a copyleft with a scope that's 
 similar to the one in the Mozilla Public License, which makes it 
 incompatible with the GNU GPL. This means a module covered by the GPL 
 and a module covered by the CDDL cannot legally be linked together. We 
 urge you not to use the CDDL for this reason.

 http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/index_html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses

 And this is the problem, that e.g. Debian has.

Please finally stop this FUD!

FUD stays FUD even if it is spread by the FSF...

If the GPL did forbid to link non-GPL cpde together wit GPL code, then the GPL 
was dead from it's beginning.

Note that the whole GPL does not use the word linking anywhere in the GPL 
text.

The GPL is asymmetric and _only_ discallows you to create derived work from GPLd
code that is not under GPL. 

The GPL does _not_ forbid to have GPLd code that is a derived work from NON-GPLd
code.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ekiga not finding v4l

2008-07-06 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 12:10 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
[...]
 now I have another issue, because my
 microphone doesn't seem to want to work in Ekiga ... I can get
 playback
 through my speakers (using alsamixer) but no matter what I do I can't
 get Ekiga's echoing system to echo back my microphone
 (sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ... It's frustrating at this point in time, but I
 hope this is as easily solvable as the webcam issue. 

Make sure your microphone is unmuted (alsamixer).  If applicable, make
sure that your capture device is set to microphone (alsamixer -V
capture).




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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 06:21:42PM +0200, Penguin Lover Joerg Schilling 
squawked:
 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The OP asked a question about why a virtual has a certain default. I 
  answered with the obvious answer which has to do with the point of view 
  of the maintainer (who is not me). I said nothing about what I think in 
  the matter, and I won't as it is in no way relevant.
 
 Could you explain me why you started to publish incorrect claims about 
 cdrtools?

Look Joerg, this is getting tiring. I don't know if the problem you
have is with English language or with social communication, but Alan
went out of his way and bent over backwards in his post to prevent
a response like the one you just gave. It was very clear from his
original post that he answered the OP's question with (I paraphrase
here)

  Joerg is a coding God. But the maintainer in gentoo for the
  cdrtools package thinks that there is a license problem, following
  Debian's lead, so virtual/cdrtools defaults to cdrkit.

Alan was not stating a fact about cdrtools. He was stating a fact
about what a gentoo developer thinks. It is great and all that legal
science and mathematics are both based on logic, but Alan has
absolutely no control about what logic the developer uses. Nor do
you, for this matter. If you have beef with the way cdrtools is
treated, take it up with the gentoo developer that actually makes the
decision to default to cdrkit and try to convince *him* that there is
a problem with his interpretation. 

As far as I can tell, neither Alan nor I gives a hoot about the
license issue, and we chose to use cdrtools because we feel that it is
better code. Yelling at us will not get your problem solved. In fact,
yelling at people who support using your code may just be the way to
reduce said support. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-06 Thread Michael Pobega
On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 12:07:10PM +0200, Gordon Schulz wrote:
 On 7/3/08, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 02:24:49PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote:
I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it?
   
 
 
  That is how I found FF2, and why I initially switched to Galeon. But
   when Firefox-3.0-r2 came out I gave FF another try, and I don't regret
   it at all. FF3 is a vast improvement over FF2 for me, it's quicker, more
   robust, takes up less memory, and the UI is a lot nicer. FF2 used to
   memory leak like an old man with diareah, but no problems with FF3.
 
   And I'm talking about the mozilla-firefox package, not -bin. For -bin I
   have 2.0.0.14 installed in case I ever need to use FF2 for something...I
   don't know what I would use it for but it can't hurt to have it.
 
 Probably a bit OT, but out of boredom I decided to give the newly
 released Opera 9.51 a spin - and I am pleasantly surprised. It's even
 way faster than FF3 and the font rendering is totally awesome.
 As I am developing quite some web-based stuff at work their new
 Dragonfly Debugger/Inspector is a good substitute for Firebug and the
 myopera.com integration supplies the much needed bookmark
 synchronisation between machines that Foxmarks handles on Firefox.
 

I'm tempted to install Opera, but my system is completely GTK (if not
CLI) and I just don't want to waste space with installing Qt ... Is
there any possible way to install Opera without Qt support?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 a response like the one you just gave. It was very clear from his
 original post that he answered the OP's question with (I paraphrase
 here)

   Joerg is a coding God. But the maintainer in gentoo for the
   cdrtools package thinks that there is a license problem, following
   Debian's lead, so virtual/cdrtools defaults to cdrkit.

 Alan was not stating a fact about cdrtools. He was stating a fact
 about what a gentoo developer thinks. It is great and all that legal
 science and mathematics are both based on logic, but Alan has
 absolutely no control about what logic the developer uses. Nor do
 you, for this matter. If you have beef with the way cdrtools is
 treated, take it up with the gentoo developer that actually makes the
 decision to default to cdrkit and try to convince *him* that there is
 a problem with his interpretation. 

It may be a general problem with social relations in the english language 

If you quote a false claim and do not inform people that the quoted claim
is wrong, then you indirerctly support the false claim.

I recommend to simply not quote people that claim there is a problem as lawyers 
verified that there is no problem. 

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-06 Thread Gordon Schulz
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm tempted to install Opera, but my system is completely GTK (if not
 CLI) and I just don't want to waste space with installing Qt ... Is
 there any possible way to install Opera without Qt support?
It is possible to install Opera with a statically linked QT toolkit,
but else than that - no. That would be like wanting to install Firefox
without GTK (which personally I would like ;p).
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 06 July 2008, Sebastian Günther wrote:
 I won't read anything related to cdrtools anymore. I won't install
 it, nor recommend anyone to use it.

That is indeed your right, but please do so in the full knowledge that 
cdrtools is vastly superior to anything else out there for any OS. No 
matter what anyone thinks of it's author, cdrtools kinda just works 
right every time. And, every time Joerg gives a purely technical answer 
to a purely technical question in this area, he's kinda spot on 
virtually every time...

Food for thought. I believe we should all keep in mind that the code and 
the man are very separate things, and that Gentoo is a source distro. 
Meaning we don't have redistribution issues. It's entirely possible to 
build and use cdrtools on Gentoo in a manner consistent with it's 
author's intent.

 And this is not about any licensing issue, it is about your way of
 *communicating*.

Ah, but the CDDL does not require you to listen to the author or to 
communicate back to the author.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 06 July 2008, Dale wrote:
  This is why I added support for files  4 GB to mkisofs.
 
  Jörg
 
   

 How did you add support for that?  Are you talking about the
 program itself or a USE flag?

Jörg is the author of mkisofs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:26:19 -0500, Dale wrote:

  Well, Kdar does the making part.  I'm not doing anything fancy when 
   
  unpacking it but when I do it with it set to 4.7Gb, I get a error
  about half way though unpacking.  I can't recall the error at the
  moment but I should be able to reproduce it if needed.
 
  I was thinking tar could handle huge files which is what confuses me.

 
  Kdar makes dar archives, not tar archives.

 I'm using Kbackup not kdar.  Two different things.  I think Kdar is
 dead. 

That's what you said earlier, but this time you said you were using kdar.
No, it's not dead. It was reported as such, but it is still in
development.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dale wrote:


 How did you add support for that?  Are you talking about the program
 itself or a USE flag?

he is the maintainer of mkisofs ;)



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Re: [gentoo-user] grub boot problem

2008-07-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
  On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
   What's this nmi_watchdog=0 good for (just curious)?
 
  to make sure it is off ;)

 Got me ;) So what's this nmi_watchdog good for?

in theory it should be able to 'break' some kinds of lockups.

just read this:
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/nmi_watchdog.txt

its a good read.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Ekiga not finding v4l

2008-07-06 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 12:14:30PM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 12:10 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
 [...]
  now I have another issue, because my
  microphone doesn't seem to want to work in Ekiga ... I can get
  playback
  through my speakers (using alsamixer) but no matter what I do I can't
  get Ekiga's echoing system to echo back my microphone
  (sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ... It's frustrating at this point in time, but I
  hope this is as easily solvable as the webcam issue. 
 
 Make sure your microphone is unmuted (alsamixer).  If applicable, make
 sure that your capture device is set to microphone (alsamixer -V
 capture).
 

Nope, not working. No matter what settings I use in alsamixer the
microphone doesn't seem to work with Ekiga's echo call ... So I don't
know where to go from here. Here is a screenshot with my alsamixer
settings

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1757/alsamixer2wn3.jpg

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 06 July 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote:
 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The OP asked a question about why a virtual has a certain default.
  I answered with the obvious answer which has to do with the point
  of view of the maintainer (who is not me). I said nothing about
  what I think in the matter, and I won't as it is in no way
  relevant.

 Could you explain me why you started to publish incorrect claims
 about cdrtools?

Jörg,

Easy. In the abstract: person X performed action Y with regard to 
cdrtools for reason Z. I felt it important to understand Z in order to 
fully understand Y.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ekiga not finding v4l

2008-07-06 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 14:30 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 12:14:30PM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:
  On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 12:10 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
  [...]
   now I have another issue, because my
   microphone doesn't seem to want to work in Ekiga ... I can get
   playback
   through my speakers (using alsamixer) but no matter what I do I can't
   get Ekiga's echoing system to echo back my microphone
   (sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ... It's frustrating at this point in time, but I
   hope this is as easily solvable as the webcam issue. 
  
  Make sure your microphone is unmuted (alsamixer).  If applicable, make
  sure that your capture device is set to microphone (alsamixer -V
  capture).
  
 
 Nope, not working. No matter what settings I use in alsamixer the
 microphone doesn't seem to work with Ekiga's echo call ... So I don't
 know where to go from here. Here is a screenshot with my alsamixer
 settings

I dunno... works for me ;-)

Again, check your USE flags... does pwlib have alsa support?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 06 July 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote:
  Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The OP asked a question about why a virtual has a certain default.
   I answered with the obvious answer which has to do with the point
   of view of the maintainer (who is not me). I said nothing about
   what I think in the matter, and I won't as it is in no way
   relevant.
 
  Could you explain me why you started to publish incorrect claims
  about cdrtools?

 Jörg,

 Easy. In the abstract: person X performed action Y with regard to 
 cdrtools for reason Z. I felt it important to understand Z in order to 
 fully understand Y.

Do you know what defamation and slander is?

If people did not believe in unproven and untrue claims, there was no problem.
It therefore seems to be important to prevent underlying messages...



Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:26:19 -0500, Dale wrote:

  
Well, Kdar does the making part.  I'm not doing anything fancy when 


   
  

unpacking it but when I do it with it set to 4.7Gb, I get a error
about half way though unpacking.  I can't recall the error at the
moment but I should be able to reproduce it if needed.

I was thinking tar could handle huge files which is what confuses me.
  


Kdar makes dar archives, not tar archives.
  


  

I'm using Kbackup not kdar.  Two different things.  I think Kdar is
dead. 



That's what you said earlier, but this time you said you were using kdar.
No, it's not dead. It was reported as such, but it is still in
development.


  


Oooops, my bad.  I'm using Kbackup.  My fingers are going coo coo.  Kdar 
was masked a while back so I unmerged it. 


Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Dale

Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Sunday 06 July 2008, Dale wrote:
  

This is why I added support for files  4 GB to mkisofs.

Jörg

 
  

How did you add support for that?  Are you talking about the
program itself or a USE flag?



Jörg is the author of mkisofs.

  


I thought that name looked familiar.  Some names are so close and I am 
awful at remembering names anyway.  Notice I mixed up Kdar and Kbackup? 

I was just wanting to make sure I had it set up on my rig correctly, now 
that we all know I am using Kbackup.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Dale

Sebastian Günther wrote:

* Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [06.07.08 16:13]:
  
Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way.  I'm not sure why 
but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files.  Anybody know about the upper limits 
on tar?



Maybe it is more a problem of the specific fs, where you try to create 
it. If there the blocksize is to small (1024) then there is your 
problem.


What does dumpe2fs -h says about the blocksize of the specific device?

HTH
Sebastian

  


I do remember it was something to do with a block.  I'll create another 
one and get the exact error.  I use reiserfs on all my partitions except 
/boot.  According to mount, it uses udf for the DVD.  Info you wanted 
about the partition where it was being untarred:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # dumpe2fs -h /dev/hdb1
dumpe2fs 1.40.9 (27-Apr-2008)
Filesystem volume name:   none
Last mounted on:  not available
Filesystem UUID:  1151d860-e80d-4897-a791-3fabec3386da
Filesystem magic number:  0xEF53
Filesystem revision #:1 (dynamic)
Filesystem features:  has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index 
filetype needs_recovery sparse_super large_file

Filesystem flags: signed_directory_hash
Default mount options:(none)
Filesystem state: clean
Errors behavior:  Continue
Filesystem OS type:   Linux
Inode count:  4890624
Block count:  19537040
Reserved block count: 976852
Free blocks:  11468312
Free inodes:  4361970
First block:  0
Block size:   4096
Fragment size:4096
Reserved GDT blocks:  1019
Blocks per group: 32768
Fragments per group:  32768
Inodes per group: 8192
Inode blocks per group:   512
Filesystem created:   Thu Jul  3 18:18:01 2008
Last mount time:  Sat Jul  5 20:52:40 2008
Last write time:  Sat Jul  5 20:52:40 2008
Mount count:  3
Maximum mount count:  23
Last checked: Thu Jul  3 18:18:01 2008
Check interval:   15552000 (6 months)
Next check after: Tue Dec 30 17:18:01 2008
Reserved blocks uid:  0 (user root)
Reserved blocks gid:  0 (group root)
First inode:  11
Inode size:   256
Journal inode:8
Default directory hash:   tea
Directory Hash Seed:  add02ebf-4002-429a-8463-f5a4509bd066
Journal backup:   inode blocks
Journal size: 128M

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ekiga not finding v4l

2008-07-06 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 02:05:33PM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 14:30 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
  On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 12:14:30PM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:
   On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 12:10 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
   [...]
now I have another issue, because my
microphone doesn't seem to want to work in Ekiga ... I can get
playback
through my speakers (using alsamixer) but no matter what I do I can't
get Ekiga's echoing system to echo back my microphone
(sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ... It's frustrating at this point in time, but 
I
hope this is as easily solvable as the webcam issue. 
   
   Make sure your microphone is unmuted (alsamixer).  If applicable, make
   sure that your capture device is set to microphone (alsamixer -V
   capture).
   
  
  Nope, not working. No matter what settings I use in alsamixer the
  microphone doesn't seem to work with Ekiga's echo call ... So I don't
  know where to go from here. Here is a screenshot with my alsamixer
  settings
 
 I dunno... works for me ;-)
 
 Again, check your USE flags... does pwlib have alsa support?
 
 -a
 

Yessir, it does...

dev-libs/pwlib-1.10.10-r1  USE=alsa ldap sdl ssl v4l xml -debug -ieee1394 
-ipv6 -oss -sasl -v4l2

Is there anything else I should check? Perhaps I should enable OSS
support as well...? I mean, it may work, considering I have ALSA doing
OSS emulation. I'm not sure if it's even worth a try though.

-- 
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programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they
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Re: [gentoo-user] Grub on a new disk

2008-07-06 Thread Dale

Florian Philipp wrote:

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:08:29 +0100
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  

Just in case, you may want to try this:

# grub  --Also use --no-floppy if it hangs probing a floppy drive
that doesn't exist--
grub root (hd2,0)  --If your /boot drive is e.g. in /dev/hdd1)--
grub setup (hd0)  --This will re-install GRUB in the MBR
grub of /dev/hda-- quit

If this does not help then I am not sure what else might fix it.



I thought I had already done this but just to make sure, I've done it
again - no effect.

If there is really some kind to self-test going on, it's invisible to
smartctl. A short self-test showed no errors, either.

I'll look out for firmware updates for that disk and will buy a small
SD/MMC/CF-card for testing. Maybe I'll also ask the Grub-guys whether
they have any ideas.

Thanks anyway! At least I know it's not just me who is confused by this
behavior.
  


From the man page:

smartctl -t long /dev/hdc
  Begin  an  extended  self-test  of drive /dev/hdc.  You can issue 
this command on a running system.  The
  results can be seen in the self-test log visible with the ´-l 
selftest´ option after it has completed.


I run that from time to time myself.  It takes a while tho.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [06.07.08 21:52]:
 Sebastian Günther wrote:
 * Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [06.07.08 16:13]:
   

[usage of reiserfs]
Last time I saw a reiserfs, that I needed to maitain was with SuSe 6.3, 
so I don't know if there could be a problem, but I kind of doubt that.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # dumpe2fs -h /dev/hdb1
 dumpe2fs 1.40.9 (27-Apr-2008)

 Inode count:  4890624
 Block count:  19537040
 Reserved block count: 976852
 Free blocks:  11468312
 Free inodes:  4361970
 First block:  0
 Block size:   4096
 Fragment size:4096
 Reserved GDT blocks:  1019
 Blocks per group: 32768
 Fragments per group:  32768
 Inodes per group: 8192
 Inode blocks per group:   512

Everthing looks OK, but if there were more than 4 million files in that 
tarball, then you could run into trouble ;-)

Only thing, what comes in mind, is that the filesystem, where the 
tarball itself resides, has problems with files bigger than 2,2 GB and 
the tarball is currupt, because it was not copied completely.

And then my Latin is at the end
Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:42:52 -0500, Dale wrote:

 Oooops, my bad.  I'm using Kbackup.  My fingers are going coo coo.
 Kdar was masked a while back so I unmerged it. 

Kdar was masked, but not dar itself. Kdar was unmasked a few weeks later.

From http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216063

Kdar was given last rites and pronounced dead at 3/5/08. But in the
process of being wheeled down to the morgue for cremation it sat bolt
upright in the gurney and coughed. Scared the sh*t out of the poor nurse.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:42:52 -0500, Dale wrote:

  

Oooops, my bad.  I'm using Kbackup.  My fingers are going coo coo.
Kdar was masked a while back so I unmerged it. 



Kdar was masked, but not dar itself. Kdar was unmasked a few weeks later.

From http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216063

Kdar was given last rites and pronounced dead at 3/5/08. But in the
process of being wheeled down to the morgue for cremation it sat bolt
upright in the gurney and coughed. Scared the sh*t out of the poor nurse.


  
ROFLMAO.  I didn't know that.  I thought maybe something new was coming 
up for KDE 4 or something.  I lost my emails from the list about that 
time so I missed the scared nurse.  I did notice dar was still there 
tho.  Thing is, how you unpack that from say a Gentoo boot CD?  It's not 
exactly a tar file.  Seems you have to have dar/kdar to unpack the thing 
which would be useless for a system back-up.


I just wish I could have got that mondo-rescue thing to working.  It 
seems perfect for a system back-up.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -avC cdrkit emerge -av cdrtools

2008-07-06 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Joerg Schilling wrote:

Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  


Easy. In the abstract: person X performed action Y with regard to 
cdrtools for reason Z. I felt it important to understand Z in order to 
fully understand Y.



Do you know what defamation and slander is?

If people did not believe in unproven and untrue claims, there was no problem.
It therefore seems to be important to prevent underlying messages...




  


Do you understand opinion? This is the heart of the matter. Your mention 
of lawyers does not change this - as legal opinion is merely an opinion 
that costs some money! (if your lawyer says !Z it does not stop another 
one saying Z)...


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:29:34 -0500, Dale wrote:

 ROFLMAO.  I didn't know that.  I thought maybe something new was coming 
 up for KDE 4 or something.  I lost my emails from the list about that 
 time so I missed the scared nurse.  I did notice dar was still there 
 tho.  Thing is, how you unpack that from say a Gentoo boot CD?  It's
 not exactly a tar file.  Seems you have to have dar/kdar to unpack the
 thing which would be useless for a system back-up.

It may not be on a Gentoo live CD, but it is on others, like
SystemRescueCD and (I think) Knoppix.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:29:34 -0500, Dale wrote:

  
ROFLMAO.  I didn't know that.  I thought maybe something new was coming 
up for KDE 4 or something.  I lost my emails from the list about that 
time so I missed the scared nurse.  I did notice dar was still there 
tho.  Thing is, how you unpack that from say a Gentoo boot CD?  It's

not exactly a tar file.  Seems you have to have dar/kdar to unpack the
thing which would be useless for a system back-up.



It may not be on a Gentoo live CD, but it is on others, like
SystemRescueCD and (I think) Knoppix.
  


I got a Knoppix, sort of a old one but got one anyway.  May have to 
check and make sure it has dar on it.  Anyway, they all have the tar 
command.  ;-) 

I'm in the process of making a 4Gb tarball to see what that error was 
again.  Watch it work this time.  o_O


Dale

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[gentoo-user] another grub problem

2008-07-06 Thread Allan Gottlieb
The newest update of grub from 0.97-r5 to 0.97-r6 contained the 

 *** IMPORTANT NOTE: you must run grub and install
 the new version's stage1 to your MBR.  Until you do,
 stage1 and stage2 will still be the old version, but
 later stages will be the new version, which could
 cause problems such as an unbootable system.

Since this is only a change in the -r, I suspect that it is not
necessary to reinstall stage1, but I tried anyway and had trouble.
Since I thought I repeated steps that worked before, I am asking for
help/explanations.

I run grub and then the following dialog.

   GNU GRUB  version 0.97  (640K lower / 7168K upper memory)
   
[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.  For the first
  word, TAB lists possible command completions.  Anywhere else TAB
  lists the possible completions of a device/filename. ]
   
grub find /boot/grub/stage1
 (hd0,2)

As expected hd0 is the disk

grub setup (hd   TAB
 Possible disks are:  hd0 hd1

Again confirming that hd0 is a valid disk (as is hd1, but that is an
external scsi that does not contain stage1)

But now comes the problem.  (I want grub in the MBR.)

grub setup (hd0)

Error 12: Invalid device requested

What is wrong?

I should add that I am following directions for installing grub
natively, which is supposed to be done using a GRUB boot disk.  I
was trying it directly under gentoo, since I *think* that is what I
did last time.

I realize that the grub doc says that installing under the OS needs
grub-install.  I don't think I did this because of the somewhat
frightening

*Caution:* This procedure is definitely less safe, because there
are several ways in which your computer can become unbootable. For
example, most operating systems don't tell GRUB how to map BIOS
drives to OS devices correctly--GRUB merely guesses the
mapping. This will succeed in most cases, but not
always. Therefore, GRUB provides you with a map file called the
device map, which you must fix if it is wrong. *Note Device
map::, for more details.

However, if that is everyone's recommendation I will of course try it.

(I don't have a floppy drive.  I do have a DVD+-RW, which naturally
works as a CDR.  So could use this if I could figure out how to use
xcdroast to create it).

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Dale

Dale wrote:
 
How did you add support for that?  Are you talking about the program 
itself or a USE flag?


Dale

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Since you have some hands on experience with this stuff, see if you can 
help me figure this out.  I used Kbackup to create 4.7Gb tarballs of my 
data directory.  I use k3b to burn my DVD's with.  I get this error when 
I try to burn it:


System
---
K3b Version: 1.0.5

KDE Version: 3.5.9
QT Version:  3.3.8
Kernel:  2.6.23-gentoo-r8
Devices
---
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8520B 1.03 (/dev/hdc, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM] 
[CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, 
RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R]


Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A 1.05 (/dev/hdd, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, 
DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL] [DVD-ROM, DVD-R 
Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, 
DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R 
Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96R, RAW/R96R, 
Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump]

Burned media
---
DVD+RW

K3bIsoImager
---
mkisofs print size result: 423 (866304 bytes)
Pipe throughput: 866304 bytes read, 866304 bytes written.

Used versions
---
mkisofs: 2.1.1a41
growisofs: 7.1

growisofs
---
About to execute 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0'
WARNING: /dev/hdd already carries isofs!
/dev/hdd: Current Write Speed is 4.1x1352KBps.
/dev/hdd: flushing cache
/dev/hdd: stopping de-icing
/dev/hdd: writing lead-out

growisofs command:
---
/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray 
-use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:423 -speed=4 
-use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m


mkisofs
---
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File 
/backup/Data_2008.07.06-17.42.05_1.tar is too large for current mkisofs 
settings - ignoring
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File 
/backup/Data_2008.07.06-17.42.05_1.tar is too large for current mkisofs 
settings - ignoring

423
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.
Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale.
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File 
/backup/Data_2008.07.06-17.42.05_1.tar is too large for current mkisofs 
settings - ignoring

Total translation table size: 0
Total rockridge attributes bytes: 169
Total directory bytes: 238
Path table size(bytes): 10
Max brk space used 21000
423 extents written (0 MB)

mkisofs calculate size command:
---
/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid 
Data_2008.07.06-17.42.05_1 -volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 
1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher  -preparer  -sysid 
LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3b6Njrlb.tmp 
-rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bLQuQRa.tmp -joliet 
-joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3beqVKic.tmp 
-no-cache-inodes -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list 
/tmp/kde-dale/k3b6oeC5a.tmp


mkisofs command:
---
/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid Data_2008.07.06-17.42.05_1 
-volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE 
K3B TEAM -publisher  -preparer  -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 
-volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bGH40Xa.tmp -rational-rock 
-hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3b2ThSXa.tmp -joliet -joliet-long 
-hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bKkQVfb.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf 
-full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bZDZ3oa.tmp



Here is my thoughts.  K3b seems to be using growisofs instead of the 
tools supplied by cdrtools.  Is there some way to disable growisofs or 
is there another way to do this? Here is what I have installed:


[I--] [  ] app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools-7.1 (0)
[I--] [  ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2-r2 (0)
[I--] [ ~] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha41 (0)

Any other ideas are welcome as well. 


Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files

2008-07-06 Thread Dale

Dale wrote:


Any other ideas are welcome as well.
Thanks

Dale

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I got it to burn.  It appears with all the unmerge/remerge stuff a 
setting got lost.  It just won't work with udf not checked.


Next issue.  Now that it is burned, it can't mount it.  Udf is in the 
kernel and it worked once before.  Another setting maybe?  Any other 
ideas?  Little info here:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # mount
 SNIP 
/dev/hdd on /media/hdd type udf (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/hdd/
total 2
d- 2 root root  40 2008-07-06 22:55 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 192 2008-07-06 01:55 ..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # 


Thanks

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