Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
deface schrieb: Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com deface Nick Pappin wrote: I would second all of this I use gentoo-wiki almost everyday and it is killing me that it isnt up. I think this would be a great service if we can give it to the community. -- W. Nick Pappin IT Staff Latah Federal Credit Union 208.874.4394 On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Steven Susbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am reaching out to the community in search of someone, or someone who may know someone at either TEL-X (http://www.telx.com) or 56Marietta (http://www.56marietta.com). I'm sure everyone on this ML is aware that wiki is down. It may not concern some of you, as it is not an official documentation site; but for the rest of us, it is A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Re: [gentoo-user] Smartd
--- On Thu, 23/10/08, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Smartd To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 6:53 PM On Donnerstag 23 Oktober 2008, Jon Hardcastle wrote: Probably not strictly a Gentoo issue, but as i am running Gentoo I'll see if the collective knowledge here can help me! I have a strange problem with my server. All the hard drives go to sleep after ~3hrs of inactivity. BUT if they happen to still be asleep when the scheduled smart check takes place you can hear it 'spin up' and just before you know the drive is 'up' smartd decides the drive isn't smart capable and gives up. I get log entries in 'messages' and dmesg and also smartd emails me to tell me the drive isn't smart capable. You get the same result if you do -a on a sleeping drive... it says the drive isn't capable.. run it again.. and Bob's your uncle. Any clues? Can you vary the time before it tries after a spin up? --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] '..Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.' --- I am not sure what your problem really is - but why don't you exclude the drivers in /etc/conf.d/smartd? It is a server, but i want the drive to power down if they aren't going to be used for a while.. Also the -n option only works for other kinds of checks.. not for scheduled checks. there appears to be no way to exclude drives that are sleeping from scheduled checks. I want the drives to be checked by smartd also. I just hoped there was a way of getting smartd to wait alittle longer after waking the drive up. --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] '..Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.' ---
Re: [gentoo-user] Trying KDE-4
On Thursday 23 October 2008 11:03:12 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: I thought he already installed some of the qt split ebuilds so they should be unmasked, but let us see :-) $ sudo autounmask x11-libs/qt-4.3.3 autounmask version 0.21 (using PortageXS-0.02.07 and portage-2.2_rc12) * Using repository: /usr/portage * Using package.keywords file: /etc/portage/package.keywords * Using package.unmask file: /etc/portage/package.unmask * Unmasking x11-libs/qt-4.3.3 and its dependencies.. this might take a while.. * done! $ tail -n 7 /etc/portage/package.unmask # --- # BEGIN: x11-libs/qt-4.3.3 # --- # --- # END: x11-libs/qt-4.3.3 # --- $ tail -n 7 /etc/portage/package.keywords # --- # BEGIN: x11-libs/qt-4.3.3 # --- # --- # END: x11-libs/qt-4.3.3 # --- -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Trying KDE-4
On Thursday 23 October 2008 11:03:12 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: I thought he already installed some of the qt split ebuilds so they should be unmasked, but let us see :-) I've found it myself. For some reason I had these two entries in my world file: x11-libs/qt x11-libs/qt:3 Once I'd removed those the blocks disappeared. Thanks to those who tried to help. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Smartd
On 24/10/2008, Jon Hardcastle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want the drives to be checked by smartd also. I just hoped there was a way of getting smartd to wait alittle longer after waking the drive up. Could you generate some disk activity on the disk(s) just prior to the scheduled check(s)? I realise this isn't a solution, but more of a work-around. Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] Smartd
--- On Fri, 24/10/08, Dan Wallis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dan Wallis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Smartd To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 1:15 PM On 24/10/2008, Jon Hardcastle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want the drives to be checked by smartd also. I just hoped there was a way of getting smartd to wait alittle longer after waking the drive up. Could you generate some disk activity on the disk(s) just prior to the scheduled check(s)? I realise this isn't a solution, but more of a work-around. Dan I did look into this actually.. but haven't made any head-way just yet. Cheers for the suggestion though. --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] '..Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.' ---
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On 2008-10-24, deface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com We can't. It's down. Care to share the news? -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. Looking forward to the new site, and restoration of www.gentoo-portage.com, a site I find to be extremely useful. :- Ben - Original Message From: Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 12:59:07 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help! On 2008-10-24, deface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com We can't. It's down. Care to share the news? -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On 10/24/08, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com We can't. It's down. Here it opens. Perhaps try this: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ Liviu
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-10-24, deface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com We can't. It's down. Care to share the news? The domain name is not down, it just doesn't point at the wiki. I'm looking at it now. But summary: everyone in this whole mess is at fault. No indication if and/or when the equipment will be rescued from coloc site; most recent content backup is from March; hosting providers bickering at each other and neither willing to help gentoo-wiki's admin get his data. Gentoo-portage should be up tommorrow, gentoo-wiki will be back eventually, but all content on both sites is probably gone forever.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On Oct 24, 2008, at 12:42 PM, BRM wrote: They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. Looking forward to the new site, and restoration of www.gentoo-portage.com , a site I find to be extremely useful. :- Ben - Original Message From: Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 12:59:07 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help! On 2008-10-24, deface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com We can't. It's down. Care to share the news? -- Grant Sorry, we're temporarily experiencing some SYN DOS'n - you can also check the feeds on Twitter. http://twitter.com/mikevalstar deface
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On Friday 24 October 2008 19:42:57 BRM wrote: They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. What I want to know is why there are no off-site backups. The site is on a machine that is rented from somebody else who hires rack space from another party. This is just begging for a disaster, or data being held hostage. Which is what happened according to the write up at that address. It's also a single point of failure. I have a response to that site owner and most here are not going to like it: You are an idiot. This is an elementary error and you fully deserve what has happened. Now stop whinging about how the big bad nasty terrible person is treating you and actually take some responsibility for your own mistakes. Wasn't this wiki also 0wned and defaced sometime in the last year? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
Alan McKinnon wrote: I have a response to that site owner and most here are not going to like it: You are an idiot. This is an elementary error and you fully deserve what has happened. Now stop whinging about how the big bad nasty terrible person is treating you and actually take some responsibility for your own mistakes. Wasn't this wiki also 0wned and defaced sometime in the last year? http://gentoo-wiki.com/ Just thought I would summarize for everyone who doesn't want to read all of the below stuff: everyone in this whole mess is at fault; I personally failed to do proper backups, TelX was a dick about billing and has been extorting customers, And Skiplink handled the situation VERY poorly on the customer service end IMHO. You're a bit late to the blame party. kashani
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On 2008-10-24, BRM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. It's there now, but when I tried earlier it was down. -- Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On 2008-10-24, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 24 October 2008 19:42:57 BRM wrote: They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. What I want to know is why there are no off-site backups. Because you never did any? I have a response to that site owner and most here are not going to like it: You are an idiot. This is an elementary error and you fully deserve what has happened. Now stop whinging about how the big bad nasty terrible person is treating you and actually take some responsibility for your own mistakes. Feel free to put up a better site. Either put up or shut up. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:47:46PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-10-24, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 24 October 2008 19:42:57 BRM wrote: They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. What I want to know is why there are no off-site backups. Because you never did any? I have a response to that site owner and most here are not going to like it: You are an idiot. This is an elementary error and you fully deserve what has happened. Now stop whinging about how the big bad nasty terrible person is treating you and actually take some responsibility for your own mistakes. Feel free to put up a better site. Either put up or shut up. put up, please :) -- Grant -- Regards, Nickolay Hodyunya.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On Friday 24 October 2008 17:36:05 Nickolay Hodyunya wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:47:46PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-10-24, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 24 October 2008 19:42:57 BRM wrote: [...] You are an idiot. This is an elementary error and you fully deserve what has happened. Now stop whinging about how the big bad nasty terrible person is treating you and actually take some responsibility for your own mistakes. Feel free to put up a better site. Either put up or shut up. put up, please :) This was totally unnecessary. Are you trying to start an flame-war for nothing? If so, why? Best regards and sorry for my poor English, -- Davi Vidal -- E-mail: davividal arroba siscompar ponto com ponto br MSN : davividal arroba msn ponto com GTalk : davividal arroba gmail ponto com Skype : davividal YIM : davi_vidal ICQ : 138815296
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
Sorry. I forget to remove the list's address from To:. My fault. -- Davi Vidal -- E-mail: davividal arroba siscompar ponto com ponto br MSN : davividal arroba msn ponto com GTalk : davividal arroba gmail ponto com Skype : davividal YIM : davi_vidal ICQ : 138815296
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
Mike Edenfield ha scritto: Gentoo-portage should be up tommorrow, gentoo-wiki will be back eventually, but all content on both sites is probably gone forever. Well, there are backups until March, and Google cache still holds something. I had a similar failure on a wiki I was managing some time ago -it was wiped away in the scribblewiki.com disaster. However thanks to Google/MSN/Yahoo caches and internet archive, I was able to save something. If people go *now* and save caches of what they care about, maybe we can save some brick from the pile of rubble. I personally saved the google cache of a bunch of pages on the Macbook, since I need them :) m.
[gentoo-user] Re: python-updater broken
Albert Hopkins marduk at letterboxes.org writes: Perhaps you can run strace (or bash -x) on it to see where it's hanging. Oh, I would not know the syntax. No man page for strace. more info? syntax suggestions? The machine hoses everytime I run python-update. # eselect python list !!! Error: Can't load module python Probably because there is no eselect module for python installed (there isn't one on any my machines). Right, so now I installed it and it says: Available python interpreters: [1] python2.4 [2] python2.5 * So why does python-updater have to be used at all? Everything else seems fine James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python-updater broken
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:38 PM, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Hopkins marduk at letterboxes.org writes: Perhaps you can run strace (or bash -x) on it to see where it's hanging. Oh, I would not know the syntax. No man page for strace. more info? syntax suggestions? The machine hoses everytime I run python-update. Weird, it has a man page on my system. Have you got strace installed at all? dev-util/strace strace --help will show you commands as well.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python-updater broken
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 20:38 +, James wrote: Albert Hopkins marduk at letterboxes.org writes: Perhaps you can run strace (or bash -x) on it to see where it's hanging. Oh, I would not know the syntax. No man page for strace. more info? syntax suggestions? The machine hoses everytime I run python-update. Probably no man page because it's likely not installed. # emerge strace But the generic way of running it is # strace python-updater # eselect python list !!! Error: Can't load module python Probably because there is no eselect module for python installed (there isn't one on any my machines). Right, so now I installed it and it says: Available python interpreters: [1] python2.4 [2] python2.5 * So why does python-updater have to be used at all? Everything else seems fine The python-updater and eselect module do completely different things. All the eselect module probably does is update a symlink: /usr/bin/python = python2.5. What python-updater is supposed to do is take all the packages that were emerged against python2.4 and re-emerge them agains python2.5. Basically what it does is identify all the files in /usr/lib/python-oldversion/site-packages, associates them with packages and re-emerges those packages. It's a shell script so running: # bash -x /usr/sbin/python-updater should give you some indication as to where it's hanging. Hope this helps. -a
Re: [gentoo-user] Another Abiword build failure
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 06:41:18PM +0200, Erik Hahn wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:50:55AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: Hello Erik, First two questions that come to me: - did you already emerge -DNu abiword and - did you try with the -gnome USE flag? gnome USE flag has never been enabled, I'm now doing complete update (it's high time anyway), that will take a while. After the update it has compiled fine. -Erik -- hackerkey://v4sw5hw2ln3pr5ck0ma2u7LwXm4l7Gi2e2t4b7Ken4/7a16s0r1p-5.62/-6.56g5OR
[gentoo-user] dhcpd uses fake MAC address
My router has big problems assigning the correct IPs to Gentoo boxes. If the NIC in the box has a MAC address of, say, 01:00:12:11:41:49:1e, dhcpd reports something else to router: ff:42:54:59:20:00:1c:21:e0:42:c2 Why is this happening and how do I tell dhcpd not to mess with the MAC address it reports to DHCP servers?
Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd uses fake MAC address
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 02:07:20AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: My router has big problems assigning the correct IPs to Gentoo boxes. If the NIC in the box has a MAC address of, say, 01:00:12:11:41:49:1e, dhcpd reports something else to router: ff:42:54:59:20:00:1c:21:e0:42:c2 Why is this happening and how do I tell dhcpd not to mess with the MAC address it reports to DHCP servers? Same experience here. I always thought it was a linux/windows compatibility problem since that is where I noticed the problem first.
[gentoo-user] Re: dhcpd uses fake MAC address
Nick Stinemates wrote: On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 02:07:20AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: My router has big problems assigning the correct IPs to Gentoo boxes. If the NIC in the box has a MAC address of, say, 01:00:12:11:41:49:1e, dhcpd reports something else to router: ff:42:54:59:20:00:1c:21:e0:42:c2 Why is this happening and how do I tell dhcpd not to mess with the MAC address it reports to DHCP servers? Same experience here. I always thought it was a linux/windows compatibility problem since that is where I noticed the problem first. Nope, it only happens with the dhcpd of Gentoo. Other Linux boxes report the correct MAC address.
[gentoo-user] Eclipse and C
Hello, When I go to install CDT and other software, Eclipse tells me Cannot launch the UI. This installation has not been configured properly for Software Updates Anyone know where I can find documentation on installing C and customizing Eclipse (3.4) on a gentoo system? James
[gentoo-user] Re: Alt-O behavior in midnight commander (mc) has changed
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Paul Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, At some point not very recently, the behavior of Alt-O in Midnight Commander (mc) has changed. It used to switch the opposite panel to the same directory as the current panel. Now, it switches the opposite panel to the parent directory of the current panel. I kept waiting for it to switch back after some update, but it never has. I'm not sure at which update it changed, but it has been several months now, I think. Is there anyone who experiences this besides me? Is it something I need to edit (termcap? key bindings? I dunno) I'm using mc-4.6.2_pre1 with USE flags X gpm nls samba unicode Thanks So, it turns out I was just using the wrong key the whole time. Alt-o switches to the currently /selected/ directory, but Alt-i switches to the currently /active/ directory. Oops! Paul
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse and C
On Saturday 25 October 2008 05:10:24 James wrote: Hello, When I go to install CDT and other software, Eclipse tells me Cannot launch the UI. This installation has not been configured properly for Software Updates Anyone know where I can find documentation on installing C and customizing Eclipse (3.4) on a gentoo system? James See https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=239785 java-overlay has 3.4.1 eclipse sdk which is configured to work :-)
[gentoo-user] More whining about evdev and Xorg 1.5
I am beginning to feel that either I am incredibly dense or everybody else is, unless absolutelyeverybody is, and I am one of the few who is not too proud to admit it :-O I have a ~amd64 system with xorg 1.5.2, and running without any X config file is the only way I can get any kind of X system running, but then various keys don't work -- LEFT, DOWN, END, PAGE DOWN at least, but RIGHT, UP, INS, DEL, HOME, PAGE UP work. I have fvwm configured to recognize the Windows MENU key but that doesn't work now, however I am not worried about that now, and expect it is one of the XkbOptions and not important right now. I could be wrong. I have whatever defaults come in /etc/hal/fdi/policy. I have tried variations in there, but they either do nothing or make it worse. I have asked on the forums, used forum and google search, and this seems to be a very common problem, yet the suggested solutions are all over the map, and after trying several which had no effect or a bad effect, I have gone back to no mods at all, a nice virgin X11 and Hal, except I have a .xmodmaps which seems to make no difference so I just leave it in place for the time being. I can live with this, not happily, but better than fighting a downgrade. Is there any definitive solution to this, any definitive guide? -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On Oct 24, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 24 October 2008 19:42:57 BRM wrote: They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. What I want to know is why there are no off-site backups. The site is on a machine that is rented from somebody else who hires rack space from another party. This is just begging for a disaster, or data being held hostage. Which is what happened according to the write up at that address. It's also a single point of failure. I have a response to that site owner and most here are not going to like it: You are an idiot. This is an elementary error and you fully deserve what has happened. Now stop whinging about how the big bad nasty terrible person is treating you and actually take some responsibility for your own mistakes. Wasn't this wiki also 0wned and defaced sometime in the last year? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com The offsite backups, were actually on another server, on another link... inside the same company. but yes, we are making the necessary provisions this time around to suite the backups deface
