date:20081223

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:04:06 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

  Why would they?  /usr/kde/3.5/bin comes first in KDE 3 sessions and
  last in KDE 4 sessions.  There's no problem at all.  
  
  Not here
  
  % echo $PATH
  /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i486-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/qt/3/bin:/home/nelz/bin

 
 Maybe because you *do* use kdeprefix.  Maybe it's better without it, 
 like here, where it works ;D

I get the same order on this computer, which does not have KDE4.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Don't just read the Tagline; read the MESSAGE!


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[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras


Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:04:06 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:


Why would they?  /usr/kde/3.5/bin comes first in KDE 3 sessions and
last in KDE 4 sessions.  There's no problem at all.  

Not here

% echo $PATH
/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i486-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/qt/3/bin:/home/nelz/bin  
Maybe because you *do* use kdeprefix.  Maybe it's better without it, 
like here, where it works ;D


I get the same order on this computer, which does not have KDE4.


That's because you don't have it.

`echo $PATH` in a KDE3 session:

/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/games/bin

`echo $PATH` in a KDE4 session:

/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/games/bin

So can we all agree now that the kdeprefix USE flag doesn't matter the 
least with KDE3+KDE4 and that it's only there to support multiple 
installations of KDE4?  (Like KDE 4.0.x + 4.1.x at the same time.)

Re: [gentoo-user] Seeking advice about backup and partitioning; preparing to dual-boot Linux onto Vista drive

2008-12-23 Thread James Stull

Actually you shouldn't need any open source or 3rd party software for
repartitioning Vista. From what I heard vista disk manager allows you to
resize it's partitions. You may want to try that first, if it doesn't work
then try one of the other suggestions.

For backing up your data, I would suggest you look at ntfsclone, I use it
for imaging all my clients at work. Just make sure your disk is clean before
you clone it.

--James

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dude, I'm getting a Dell!

 It's gonna come with Vista, and I have to use it that way for work.
 But I want to
 put a Linux partition on there.  So I need to repartition.

 Having learned to be cautious, I'm wondering if there is a good open-source
 way
 to back up about 300GB of NTFS such that I can restore fairly smoothly.  It
 has
 to be fairly fast, so file-by-file copies are probably going to suck.
 I'll have 100MB
 ethernet to a big-enough drive.

 Then, I'm wondering about partitioning tools.  I can use
 PartitionMagic 7.0.  I've heard
 of gparted, but not used it.  Any advice?

 TIA

 ++ kevin


 --
 Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:04:06 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

 Why would they?  /usr/kde/3.5/bin comes first in KDE 3 sessions and
 last in KDE 4 sessions.  There's no problem at all.  
 Not here

 % echo $PATH
 /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i486-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/qt/3/bin:/home/nelz/bin
  

 Maybe because you *do* use kdeprefix.  Maybe it's better without it,
 like here, where it works ;D

 I get the same order on this computer, which does not have KDE4.

 That's because you don't have it.

 `echo $PATH` in a KDE3 session:

 /usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/games/bin


 `echo $PATH` in a KDE4 session:

 /usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/games/bin


 So can we all agree now that the kdeprefix USE flag doesn't matter the
 least with KDE3+KDE4 and that it's only there to support multiple
 installations of KDE4?  (Like KDE 4.0.x + 4.1.x at the same time.)




r...@smoker / # euse -i kdeprefix
global use flags (searching: kdeprefix)

[+ C  ] kdeprefix - Makes a KDE prefixed install into /usr/kde/${SLOT}
if enabled or into /usr (FHS compatible) otherwise

local use flags (searching: kdeprefix)

no matching entries found
r...@smoker / #

Dale

:-)  :-)

[gentoo-user] Changing profiles

I'm getting this:

!!! Your current profile is deprecated and not supported anymore.
!!! Please upgrade to the following profile if possible:
This profile is deprecated. Please update to a 2008.0 profile
using eselect profile.

and I have:

# ls -l /etc/make.profile
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 Dec 20 07:14 /etc/make.profile -
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop

Can I change to any of these?

# eselect profile list
Available profile symlink targets:
  [1]   hardened/amd64
  [2]   hardened/amd64/multilib
  [3]   selinux/2007.0/amd64
  [4]   selinux/2007.0/amd64/hardened
  [5]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0
  [6]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop
  [7]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0/developer
  [8]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0/no-multilib
  [9]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0/server
  [10]  hardened/linux/amd64

I've looked over this:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

but I'm still not sure if I can choose any of the above.

- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

2008-12-23 Thread Albert Hopkins

On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 07:12 -0800, Grant wrote:
 I'm getting this:
 
 !!! Your current profile is deprecated and not supported anymore.
 !!! Please upgrade to the following profile if possible:
 This profile is deprecated. Please update to a 2008.0 profile
 using eselect profile.
 
 and I have:
 
 # ls -l /etc/make.profile
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 Dec 20 07:14 /etc/make.profile -
 /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop
 
 Can I change to any of these?
 
 # eselect profile list
 Available profile symlink targets:
   [1]   hardened/amd64
   [2]   hardened/amd64/multilib
   [3]   selinux/2007.0/amd64
   [4]   selinux/2007.0/amd64/hardened
   [5]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0
   [6]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop
   [7]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0/developer
   [8]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0/no-multilib
   [9]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0/server
   [10]  hardened/linux/amd64
 
 I've looked over this:
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml
 
 but I'm still not sure if I can choose any of the above.

... why?  Do you have a specific question?  Did you even bother to try
to choose one?

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

 I'm getting this:

 !!! Your current profile is deprecated and not supported anymore.
 !!! Please upgrade to the following profile if possible:
 This profile is deprecated. Please update to a 2008.0 profile
 using eselect profile.

 and I have:

 # ls -l /etc/make.profile
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 56 Dec 20 07:14 /etc/make.profile -
 /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop

 Can I change to any of these?

 # eselect profile list
 Available profile symlink targets:
   [1]   hardened/amd64
   [2]   hardened/amd64/multilib
   [3]   selinux/2007.0/amd64
   [4]   selinux/2007.0/amd64/hardened
   [5]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0
   [6]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop
   [7]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0/developer
   [8]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0/no-multilib
   [9]   default/linux/amd64/2008.0/server
   [10]  hardened/linux/amd64

 I've looked over this:

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

 but I'm still not sure if I can choose any of the above.

 ... why?  Do you have a specific question?  Did you even bother to try
 to choose one?

I read a while back that changing from certain profiles to certain
other profiles is impossible without a complete reinstall.  I'd like
to change to hardened/amd64/multilib but also have the option to
switch to default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop if I have problems with a
hardened profile like I do on my laptop.  Can I do all that?

- Grant

Re: Hard to find netiquette, enculturation bug. (Was: Re: [gentoo-user] GNOME: Cant logout and Lock Screen is showing different background from GNOME screensaver)

2008-12-23 Thread Grant Edwards

On 2008-12-23, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Half the fun of Gentoo is knowing that you're kinda on your
 own.

I find the opposite to be true: I'm much _less_ on my own with
Gentoo that I was with any other distro.  There's a Gentoo
guide or howto for almost everything I've tried to do (some of
of it pretty obscure).  I've found the documentation for Gentoo
is far more complete, accurate, and up-to-date than for
RedHat/Mandrake, Suse, Debian, or Ubuntu.

I've been running Gentoo for years, and I'm still amazed and
how complete and up-to-date the guides are.  Just yesterday I
used the Bluetooth guide to get my new mobile phone paired with
my IBM Thinkpad.  Every step was completely and accurately
explained and had an example listing.

When I used to google for help on problems with Mandrake or
Ubuntu, all I would find were postings on those ghastly web
forums that were often several years old and did nothing but
confirm that other people couldn't get X to work either.  Those
postings were usually answered by people who didn't understand
the problem and proffered incorrect or irrelevant suggestions.
Rarely were real solutions found, and if they were they were
out of date and no longer applicable.

For the rare occasion when there's not a detailed guide or
howto, I've always gotten very prompt and accurate help from
the mailing list.

-- 
Grant Edwards   grante Yow! I just remembered
  at   something about a TOAD!
   visi.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

2008-12-23 Thread Albert Hopkins

On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 07:28 -0800, Grant wrote:

  I've looked over this:
 
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml
 
  but I'm still not sure if I can choose any of the above.
 
  ... why?  Do you have a specific question?  Did you even bother to try
  to choose one?
 
 I read a while back that changing from certain profiles to certain
 other profiles is impossible without a complete reinstall.  I'd like
 to change to hardened/amd64/multilib but also have the option to
 switch to default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop if I have problems with a
 hardened profile like I do on my laptop.  Can I do all that?

Wow, why couldn't you have said that in your first post?  It would have
saved a round trip.  Also, and I'm probably nit-picking here, but
usually when I see a I heard that or I read a while back my initial
thought is What is your source because a lot of times people will say
things and have no idea wtf they're talking about (myself included).

I couldn't find anything to support that, in fact the official Gentoo
hardened docs seem to indicate you *can* switch to hardened (though you
should probably read the docs yourself) but you basically need to
recompile *everything* after switching to hardened.  You should read the
hardened docs [1] and probably ask on the gentoo-hardened ML.

However if you just want to switch from 2007.0/desktop to 2008.0/desktop
that's perfectly fine/possible.  If people had to re-install every year
when a new profile came out I think they'd get ticked off pretty quick.

-a

[gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

2008-12-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras


Dale wrote:

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:04:06 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:


Why would they?  /usr/kde/3.5/bin comes first in KDE 3 sessions and
last in KDE 4 sessions.  There's no problem at all.  

Not here

% echo $PATH
/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i486-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/qt/3/bin:/home/nelz/bin 

Maybe because you *do* use kdeprefix.  Maybe it's better without it,
like here, where it works ;D

I get the same order on this computer, which does not have KDE4.

That's because you don't have it.

`echo $PATH` in a KDE3 session:

/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/games/bin


`echo $PATH` in a KDE4 session:

/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/games/bin


So can we all agree now that the kdeprefix USE flag doesn't matter the
least with KDE3+KDE4 and that it's only there to support multiple
installations of KDE4?  (Like KDE 4.0.x + 4.1.x at the same time.)





r...@smoker / # euse -i kdeprefix
global use flags (searching: kdeprefix)

[+ C  ] kdeprefix - Makes a KDE prefixed install into /usr/kde/${SLOT}
if enabled or into /usr (FHS compatible) otherwise

local use flags (searching: kdeprefix)

no matching entries found
r...@smoker / #


Here's what it should say:

[+ C  ] kdeprefix - Makes a KDE 4 prefixed install into [...]

How I know?  I don't use kdeprefix and my KDE 3 is installed in 
/usr/kde/3.5 ;)


Also, if you care to look you'll see that kdeprefix is not used by any 
KDE3 ebuild.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: video driver discovery

On Tuesday 23 December 2008 03:28:55 James wrote:
 Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:
  grepping a log file is the most natural way for an experienced unix admin
  to do it. It's a useful skill, all newbies should be encouraged (but not
  required) to learn it. Sometimes we experienced admin types lose sight of
  the fact that regardless of all the nice new user-friendly aspects of
  Linux being driven by distros like Ubuntu, under the covers we still have
  a hard-core Unix system.

 h,

 Look at lspci -v. It lists quite a few kernel drivers

I'm not sure I follow you. lspci lists physical hardware devices found while 
enumerating the pci bus, with -v it lists the kernel driver loaded for 
accessing that device.

Weren't you looking for the X video driver? You won't find that in lspci, it's 
a user-space driver loaded by the X server. You may well find information 
related to 3D rendering and frame buffers though.

Another thing that people all too easily lose sight of is that if someone 
wants such information as which X driver is loaded, then we assume that the 
person knows enough about the system to know where to look and knows the 
usual tools for looking there. In much the same way as we expect the car 
mechanic to know where the spark plugs are and what they do.

 00:05.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge (prog-if 00
 [Normal decode])
 snip
 Kernel driver in use: pcieport-drive

 and here:
 00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc 4379 Serial ATA Controller
 (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO])
 snip
 Kernel driver in use: sata_sil

 and so on...
 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
 (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
 Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 11)

 Kernel driver in use: piix4_smbus


 I guess that was done just for lazy(slow) admins.?


 common, it's an obviously an oversight, cause lots of other
 things get listed.you think? Maybe it'd be too
 difficult to do?

Remind me again, what point are you making? lspci is a very low-level hardware 
detection tool. It's not supposed to be friendly, it's supposed to be 
complete.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: video driver discovery

On Tuesday 23 December 2008 04:44:28 Dale wrote:
 'm not sure but I think the command had something to do with seeing
 what was used to do direct rendering or something.  Anybody recall what
 I am thinking about?  

xdpyinfo?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo File Manager

On Tuesday 23 December 2008 04:34:26 Dale wrote:
 Mick wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I am trying out the Gentoo File Manager, but have run aground with the
  way it opens certain types of files.  How can I create an association to
  e.g. use xpdf to open pdf files and OOo (oowriter) to open .odt and .doc
  files?  All I get now is a plain text editor firing up and opening such
  files.  Same applies with pictures, videos, etc.

 For those that are stumped like I was, it looks neat.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_(file_manager)

 I wish this was in portage.  I'd like to give this a ride and see how I
 like it.  Any reason it is not in portage?  Does it look neat but suck
 in real use or something?  I use Konqueror for mine right now but curious.

Ahem...

a...@nazgul /var/portage/x11-base $ eix -e gentoo
* app-misc/gentoo
 Available versions:  0.11.55 (~)0.11.56 {fam gnome nls}
 Homepage:http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/
 Description: A modern GTK+ based filemanager for any WM

I guess the eggnog must taste real good down in your next of the woods this 
time of year :-)


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: video driver discovery

On Tuesday 23 December 2008 03:11:00 James wrote:
 Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:
  In cases where a quick command to display something doesn't exist, it's
  usually because it never occurred to the developer that there could be
  another way  I find in my own experience that I usually know what driver
  is being used - I set the machines up after all - and if I do need to
  verify the driver, I also want the error messages related to it. Which
  are sitting in the log file

 If we followed that logic, why would we have things like
 'lspci'? After all, we could go grepping (egrep fgrep etc)
 who needs lspci anyway, certainly not an experienced admin


 I get it. parse the file. No big deal, just surprised me.

lspci lists hardware found on the PCI bus. It is far and away the best tool 
for finding out exactly what PCI hardware you have. Same for various other 
ls* tools for other buses.

But like I said in the other mail, what is your point exactly? I'm sure a 
gnome-style app exists that interrogates HAL to find all this stuff out, I 
just don't know of one and would seldom use it. KDE also has some such thing, 
IIRC you get to it via Control Centre.

I have my preferred method, it might not be a decent solution for you though.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Seeking advice about backup and partitioning; preparing to dual-boot Linux onto Vista drive

On Tuesday 23 December 2008 08:39:17 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 Dude, I'm getting a Dell!

Which one?

I have a very new high spec Dell and have already done the very painful 
process of finding out what hardware does not work. I could save you the 
pain...

the iwl3945 does not reliably start the 3945 wifi card
the fingerprint reader somehow does not work...



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

2008-12-23 Thread James Stull

Grant, I've had a similar problem when I installed 2008.0 hardened instead
of the desktop. Here is a link to the post:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-713346.html

I would suggest that after you select your desktop 2008.0 profile to run the
following:
emerge --sync  emerge -uDNav world

--Riv

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

   I've looked over this:
  
   http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml
  
   but I'm still not sure if I can choose any of the above.
  
   ... why?  Do you have a specific question?  Did you even bother to try
   to choose one?
 
  I read a while back that changing from certain profiles to certain
  other profiles is impossible without a complete reinstall.  I'd like
  to change to hardened/amd64/multilib but also have the option to
  switch to default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop if I have problems with a
  hardened profile like I do on my laptop.  Can I do all that?
 
  Wow, why couldn't you have said that in your first post?  It would have
  saved a round trip.  Also, and I'm probably nit-picking here, but
  usually when I see a I heard that or I read a while back my initial
  thought is What is your source because a lot of times people will say
  things and have no idea wtf they're talking about (myself included).
 
  I couldn't find anything to support that, in fact the official Gentoo
  hardened docs seem to indicate you *can* switch to hardened (though you
  should probably read the docs yourself) but you basically need to
  recompile *everything* after switching to hardened.  You should read the
  hardened docs [1] and probably ask on the gentoo-hardened ML.
 
  However if you just want to switch from 2007.0/desktop to 2008.0/desktop
  that's perfectly fine/possible.  If people had to re-install every year
  when a new profile came out I think they'd get ticked off pretty quick.

 I'm really surprised to hear that.  Can I switch my laptop from a
 hardened profile to a non-hardened one?  I know I've been told I can't
 do that.

 You think an 'eselect profile set 2  emerge -e world' will
 accomplish the entire thing?

 - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

 I'm really surprised to hear that.  Can I switch my laptop from a
 hardened profile to a non-hardened one?  I know I've been told I can't
 do that.

 You think an 'eselect profile set 2  emerge -e world' will
 accomplish the entire thing?


 Are you wanting to switch *to* hardened or *from* hardened?  Your
 previous message seemed to indicate the former.  If the latter, I
 honestly don't know but seriously doubt it.

I was wondering about both situations.  Thanks, I appreciate your help.

- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Seeking advice about backup and partitioning; preparing to dual-boot Linux onto Vista drive

2008-12-23 Thread Robert Bridge

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:39:17 -0800
Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dude, I'm getting a Dell!
 
 It's gonna come with Vista, and I have to use it that way for work.
 But I want to
 put a Linux partition on there.  So I need to repartition.
 
 Having learned to be cautious, I'm wondering if there is a good
 open-source way to back up about 300GB of NTFS such that I can
 restore fairly smoothly.  It has to be fairly fast, so file-by-file
 copies are probably going to suck. I'll have 100MB
 ethernet to a big-enough drive.
 
 Then, I'm wondering about partitioning tools.  I can use
 PartitionMagic 7.0.  I've heard
 of gparted, but not used it.  Any advice?

Um, I thought Vista could resize it's own partitions...

Also, if it's a new machine, use the re-install disk for your back up ;)

RobbieAB


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Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

2008-12-23 Thread Albert Hopkins

On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 07:55 -0800, Grant wrote:
 I'm really surprised to hear that.  Can I switch my laptop from a
 hardened profile to a non-hardened one?  I know I've been told I can't
 do that.
 
 You think an 'eselect profile set 2  emerge -e world' will
 accomplish the entire thing?
 

Are you wanting to switch *to* hardened or *from* hardened?  Your
previous message seemed to indicate the former.  If the latter, I
honestly don't know but seriously doubt it.

[gentoo-user] oocalc document always needs recovery when opened

Hi,

I have an OpenOffice spreadsheet that every single time I open it I get a 
recovery dialog that I have to confirm. The recovery always fails, the 
document then always opens correctly with no missing data. It was created 
with ooo-3 and so far has always been opened with ooo-3.

The dialog gives no indication what went wrong, and when opened from a shell, 
there's no console output. I don't know enough about OpenOffice to know where 
to start debugging.

Anyone have some pointers? A nice howto perhaps?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

2008-12-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann

On Dienstag 23 Dezember 2008, Grant wrote:
   I've looked over this:
  
   http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml
  
   but I'm still not sure if I can choose any of the above.
  
   ... why?  Do you have a specific question?  Did you even bother to try
   to choose one?
 
  I read a while back that changing from certain profiles to certain
  other profiles is impossible without a complete reinstall.  I'd like
  to change to hardened/amd64/multilib but also have the option to
  switch to default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop if I have problems with a
  hardened profile like I do on my laptop.  Can I do all that?
 
  Wow, why couldn't you have said that in your first post?  It would have
  saved a round trip.  Also, and I'm probably nit-picking here, but
  usually when I see a I heard that or I read a while back my initial
  thought is What is your source because a lot of times people will say
  things and have no idea wtf they're talking about (myself included).
 
  I couldn't find anything to support that, in fact the official Gentoo
  hardened docs seem to indicate you *can* switch to hardened (though you
  should probably read the docs yourself) but you basically need to
  recompile *everything* after switching to hardened.  You should read the
  hardened docs [1] and probably ask on the gentoo-hardened ML.
 
  However if you just want to switch from 2007.0/desktop to 2008.0/desktop
  that's perfectly fine/possible.  If people had to re-install every year
  when a new profile came out I think they'd get ticked off pretty quick.

 I'm really surprised to hear that.  Can I switch my laptop from a
 hardened profile to a non-hardened one?  I know I've been told I can't
 do that.

 You think an 'eselect profile set 2  emerge -e world' will
 accomplish the entire thing?

no, you have to do -e  system first because system does not belong to world 
anymore (for a couple of month it does not belong to world anymore. 6 or 
something like that).

[gentoo-user] Mnemonics for everyday stuff

Hi,

Things got a bit heavy round here the last few days, so here's something 
light.

I must be getting very old, I have a hard time remembering the difference 
between similar things these days. I'd just gotten over Pluto no longer being 
a planet and had to revise My Very Excited Mother Just Served Us Nasty 
Pickles to My Very Excited Mother Just Served Us Noodles, but telling 
these apart and remembering which name goes with which thing has me stumped:

DSA / RSA
tun / tap

A snappy mnemonic ought to do the trick - anybody got one?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

 I'm really surprised to hear that.  Can I switch my laptop from a
 hardened profile to a non-hardened one?  I know I've been told I can't
 do that.

 You think an 'eselect profile set 2  emerge -e world' will
 accomplish the entire thing?


 Are you wanting to switch *to* hardened or *from* hardened?  Your
 previous message seemed to indicate the former.  If the latter, I
 honestly don't know but seriously doubt it.

This is weird.  I get this from my server:

# ls -l /etc/make.profile
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Aug 14  2007 /etc/make.profile -
/usr/portage/profiles/hardened/x86/2.6
# eselect profiles list
!!! Error: Can't load module profiles
Killed

I just re-emerged eselect with the same result.  Does anyone know
what's wrong here?

- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

   I've looked over this:
  
   http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml
  
   but I'm still not sure if I can choose any of the above.
  
   ... why?  Do you have a specific question?  Did you even bother to try
   to choose one?
 
  I read a while back that changing from certain profiles to certain
  other profiles is impossible without a complete reinstall.  I'd like
  to change to hardened/amd64/multilib but also have the option to
  switch to default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop if I have problems with a
  hardened profile like I do on my laptop.  Can I do all that?
 
  Wow, why couldn't you have said that in your first post?  It would have
  saved a round trip.  Also, and I'm probably nit-picking here, but
  usually when I see a I heard that or I read a while back my initial
  thought is What is your source because a lot of times people will say
  things and have no idea wtf they're talking about (myself included).
 
  I couldn't find anything to support that, in fact the official Gentoo
  hardened docs seem to indicate you *can* switch to hardened (though you
  should probably read the docs yourself) but you basically need to
  recompile *everything* after switching to hardened.  You should read the
  hardened docs [1] and probably ask on the gentoo-hardened ML.
 
  However if you just want to switch from 2007.0/desktop to 2008.0/desktop
  that's perfectly fine/possible.  If people had to re-install every year
  when a new profile came out I think they'd get ticked off pretty quick.

 I'm really surprised to hear that.  Can I switch my laptop from a
 hardened profile to a non-hardened one?  I know I've been told I can't
 do that.

 You think an 'eselect profile set 2  emerge -e world' will
 accomplish the entire thing?

 no, you have to do -e  system first because system does not belong to world
 anymore (for a couple of month it does not belong to world anymore. 6 or
 something like that).

So a complete system recompile now requires 'emerge -e world' and
'emerge -e system'?

- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

2008-12-23 Thread Willie Wong

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 07:55:20AM -0800, Penguin Lover Grant squawked:
 I'm really surprised to hear that.  Can I switch my laptop from a
 hardened profile to a non-hardened one?  I know I've been told I can't
 do that.

I don't know much about amd64, so I don't know how the 'multilib'
thing would work. But in so far as switching from a hardened profile
to a non-hardened one and vice versa: the answer is yes and no. 

Going from hardened to non-hardened is generally easier, I think.
The available packages from hardened is generally a subset of the ones
from non-hardened. So once you switch profiles you'd be prompted to
upgraded GCC and many other packages, and you'll find a few more (and
possibly a few fewer) USE to work with. Most of these will fix itself
over time. 

Going from non-hardened to hardened may run into some downgrading
problems, however, in view of the above. For example, hardened devs
still have not put gcc4 in stable (at least on x86, I don't know about
amd64), so if you have gcc4 installed, you'll need to downgrade. Along
the same lines some packages that will not compile unless you use gcc4
cannot be installed (lilypond for example). 

I suggest that you compare and contrast the package.mask and
package.use.mask (and possibly make.defaults) files in the
/usr/portage/profiles/{hardened,default/linux} directories to see what
differences there are.

 You think an 'eselect profile set 2  emerge -e world' will
 accomplish the entire thing?

Is emerge -e world even necessary? (Someone correct me if I am wrong.)
My understanding is that switching profiles between hardened and
non-hardened does not cause such drastic change to the toolchain that
you must rebuild everything now. I am pretty sure when I switched my
desktop to hardened I just let it gradually phase in. 

HTH, 

W

-- 
What are you talking about? 
Never mind, eat the fruit. 
You know, this place almost looks like the Garden of Eden. 

Eat the fruit. 
Sounds quite like it too. 
Sortir en Pantoufles: up 746 days, 16:20

[gentoo-user] Firefox: Content Encoding Error and CAPTCHA

2008-12-23 Thread Andrew Gaydenko

Hi!

I have some strange problems with Firefox (up to date ~amd64):

1. On some pages some gif files (CAPTCHA) is not shown,

2. Some pages results in Firefox error message:

Content Encoding Error

The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or 
unsupported form of compression.

Opera ans Arora has not such problems at both cases.

Thoughts?

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

2008-12-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann

On Dienstag 23 Dezember 2008, Grant wrote:
I've looked over this:
   
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml
   
but I'm still not sure if I can choose any of the above.
   
... why?  Do you have a specific question?  Did you even bother to
try to choose one?
  
   I read a while back that changing from certain profiles to certain
   other profiles is impossible without a complete reinstall.  I'd like
   to change to hardened/amd64/multilib but also have the option to
   switch to default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop if I have problems with
   a hardened profile like I do on my laptop.  Can I do all that?
  
   Wow, why couldn't you have said that in your first post?  It would
   have saved a round trip.  Also, and I'm probably nit-picking here, but
   usually when I see a I heard that or I read a while back my
   initial thought is What is your source because a lot of times people
   will say things and have no idea wtf they're talking about (myself
   included).
  
   I couldn't find anything to support that, in fact the official Gentoo
   hardened docs seem to indicate you *can* switch to hardened (though
   you should probably read the docs yourself) but you basically need to
   recompile *everything* after switching to hardened.  You should read
   the hardened docs [1] and probably ask on the gentoo-hardened ML.
  
   However if you just want to switch from 2007.0/desktop to
   2008.0/desktop that's perfectly fine/possible.  If people had to
   re-install every year when a new profile came out I think they'd get
   ticked off pretty quick.
 
  I'm really surprised to hear that.  Can I switch my laptop from a
  hardened profile to a non-hardened one?  I know I've been told I can't
  do that.
 
  You think an 'eselect profile set 2  emerge -e world' will
  accomplish the entire thing?
 
  no, you have to do -e  system first because system does not belong to
  world anymore (for a couple of month it does not belong to world anymore.
  6 or something like that).

 So a complete system recompile now requires 'emerge -e world' and
 'emerge -e system'?

 - Grant

first system, then world.

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

On Tuesday 23 December 2008 19:51:37 Willie Wong wrote:
 Going from non-hardened to hardened may run into some downgrading
 problems, however, in view of the above. For example, hardened devs
 still have not put gcc4 in stable (at least on x86, I don't know about
 amd64), so if you have gcc4 installed, you'll need to downgrade. Along
 the same lines some packages that will not compile unless you use gcc4
 cannot be installed (lilypond for example).

I suspect downgrading from non-hardened to hardened will be impossible;

glibc-2.6.1 is stable on x86 at least, so in all probability almost all x86 
boxen will at least have that.

But =glibc-2.6 is hard masked on x86 so there is no commonality and no 
version available where the glibc ebuild will even permit this required 
downgrade. It would seem that a reinstall is the only possible way to do 
this.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

 Going from non-hardened to hardened may run into some downgrading
 problems, however, in view of the above. For example, hardened devs
 still have not put gcc4 in stable (at least on x86, I don't know about
 amd64), so if you have gcc4 installed, you'll need to downgrade. Along
 the same lines some packages that will not compile unless you use gcc4
 cannot be installed (lilypond for example).

 I suspect downgrading from non-hardened to hardened will be impossible;

 glibc-2.6.1 is stable on x86 at least, so in all probability almost all x86
 boxen will at least have that.

 But =glibc-2.6 is hard masked on x86 so there is no commonality and no
 version available where the glibc ebuild will even permit this required
 downgrade. It would seem that a reinstall is the only possible way to do
 this.

Do you think going from hardened to non-hardened is do-able?  I'd like
to do that with my laptop.

Also, I've got this with my server:

# eselect profile list
Available profile symlink targets:
[1]   hardened/x86/2.6 *
[2]   selinux/2007.0/x86
[3]   selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened
[4]   default/linux/x86/2008.0
[5]   default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop
[6]   default/linux/x86/2008.0/developer
[7]   default/linux/x86/2008.0/server
[8]   hardened/linux/x86

Is there a difference between 1 and 8?  I may switch to 8 since that
seems like a more current one.

- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

On Tuesday 23 December 2008 22:05:25 Grant wrote:
  Going from non-hardened to hardened may run into some downgrading
  problems, however, in view of the above. For example, hardened devs
  still have not put gcc4 in stable (at least on x86, I don't know about
  amd64), so if you have gcc4 installed, you'll need to downgrade. Along
  the same lines some packages that will not compile unless you use gcc4
  cannot be installed (lilypond for example).
 
  I suspect downgrading from non-hardened to hardened will be impossible;
 
  glibc-2.6.1 is stable on x86 at least, so in all probability almost all
  x86 boxen will at least have that.
 
  But =glibc-2.6 is hard masked on x86 so there is no commonality and no
  version available where the glibc ebuild will even permit this required
  downgrade. It would seem that a reinstall is the only possible way to do
  this.

 Do you think going from hardened to non-hardened is do-able?  I'd like
 to do that with my laptop.

I've never done it myself, but I can't see any reason why not. Hardened is a 
strict subset of non-hardened (in terms of packages and versions) so it 
should just be a smooth, albeit long, upgrade.

There may well be USE flags involved that introduce incompatibilities that 
can't be resolved, I wouldn't know about that. I would also suggest you find 
a decent howto written by someone who knows the process. You definitely want 
to get your USE, CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS right the first time. Otherwise you'll 
end up recompiling lots of stuff over and over, each time with new settings 
you forgot about the previous time :-)


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



 Also, I've got this with my server:

 # eselect profile list
 Available profile symlink targets:
 [1]   hardened/x86/2.6 *
 [2]   selinux/2007.0/x86
 [3]   selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened
 [4]   default/linux/x86/2008.0
 [5]   default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop
 [6]   default/linux/x86/2008.0/developer
 [7]   default/linux/x86/2008.0/server
 [8]   hardened/linux/x86

 Is there a difference between 1 and 8?  I may switch to 8 since that
 seems like a more current one.

 - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:38:47 -0800, Grant wrote:

 # eselect profiles list
 !!! Error: Can't load module profiles
 Killed

profile not profiles.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:28:57 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

 no, you have to do -e  system first because system does not belong to
 world anymore (for a couple of month it does not belong to world
 anymore. 6 or something like that).

Unless you have @system in /var/lib/portage/world_sets, which isthe
default on my boxen.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

If the cops arrest a mime, do they tell her she has the right to remain
silent?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Mnemonics for everyday stuff

2008-12-23 Thread Mark David Dumlao

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:36 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 DSA / RSA
 tun / tap
tun - to uniplexed node?
tap - to any person?
it makes some vague sense

Re: [gentoo-user] oocalc document always needs recovery when opened

2008-12-23 Thread Mark David Dumlao

A very very quick fix: rename or move your ~/.openoffice directory and
openoffice should start out with fresh everything. I don't know how
openoffice handles backups and caching though, so if you'd like to
preserve your settings maybe you could look into the subfolders there
and see if the backuped/cached document is there somewhere.

[gentoo-user] Unknown media type errors

2008-12-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras


I get a lot of these lately:

  * Updating desktop mime database ...
  * Updating shared mime info database ...
  Unknown media type in type 'all/all'
  Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
  Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'
  Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst'
  Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu'
  Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm'
  Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt'
  Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'
  Unknown media type in type 'fonts/package'
  Unknown media type in type 'interface/x-winamp-skin'

Am I missing some MIME package?  I did a clean-up of my world file 
yesterday along with a depclean so I might have deleted something I 
shouldn't.  But I've no idea what :P


(revdep-rebuild shows all is OK and emerge -auvDN world doesn't emerge 
anything new.)

Re: [gentoo-user] oocalc document always needs recovery when opened

On Wednesday 24 December 2008 00:20:51 Mark David Dumlao wrote:
 A very very quick fix: rename or move your ~/.openoffice directory and
 openoffice should start out with fresh everything. I don't know how
 openoffice handles backups and caching though, so if you'd like to
 preserve your settings maybe you could look into the subfolders there
 and see if the backuped/cached document is there somewhere.

That did indeed make the problem go away. I considered comparing the old and 
new directories to find the incorrect setting, but decided not to - there was 
nothing special configured there that I can't easily redo.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:54:52 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

  Maybe because you *do* use kdeprefix.  Maybe it's better without it, 
  like here, where it works ;D  
  
  I get the same order on this computer, which does not have KDE4.  
 
 That's because you don't have it.
 
 `echo $PATH` in a KDE3 session:
 
 /usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/games/bin

On both computers, one with KDE4 installed and one without, /usr/bin
comes before any KDE directories in my $PATH.


-- 
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I used to live in the real world, but I got evicted.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Network printing

2008-12-23 Thread Mick

On Tuesday 23 December 2008, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Monday 22 December 2008 18:00:52 BRM wrote:
[snip...]

 I let cups find the printer and I tell it to use the .ppd file I got from
 linuxprinting.org. It shows the printer configuration page, where I set A4
 paper, then I get a security error saying that I have attempted to
 establish a connection with 192.168.2.2 whereas the security certificate
 presented belongs to serv.ethnet. Guess what - serv.ethnet is the machine
 I'm working on and it has IP address 192.168.2.2. What is going on here? (I
 don't get this error when setting up my laser printer; only with this
 inkjet.)

If you are using SSL certificates you must set up the correct domain name, 
with regards to what the client machines see on the intranet/LAN.  Clearly 
the IP address is not a FQDN and the certificate check fails.  So, you want 
your common name (CN = serv.ethnet or whatever) to be the same with the name 
that your server is seen by the client in the LAN and this may involve 
setting up your router to resolve serv.ethnet to 192.168.2.2, or adding an 
entry in your client's /etc/hosts file to this effect.

 On printing a test page I get /usr/libexec/cups/filter/foomatic-rip
 failed and job stopped.

  On your client systems you add it as an IPP printer as the Network
  Server's CUPS server is the IPP host.

 It would be nice to get that far. At present I can't get anything working
 at all without using hplip.

I am sorry but I have not followed all your previous threads on this subject - 
from my experience hplip should work straight out of the box.  To see what's 
failing (which could well be related to the http:// ir ipp:// path to the 
printer being incorrect) you need to increase the verbosity of CUPS in its 
configuration file and then have a close look at:

/var/log/cups/access_log
/var/log/cups/error_log

HTH.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Gentoo rsync servers time out

2008-12-23 Thread Mick

I have noticed this phenomenon which I am not sure I can explain very 
satisfactorily.  Just after midnight (GMT) any attempt to resync proves 
futile:
==
# eix-sync
 * Running emerge --sync
 Starting rsync with rsync://88.156.78.16/gentoo-portage...
 Checking server timestamp ...

contact: f...@vectranet.pl

receiving incremental file list
timestamp.chk
timed out
rsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(541) 
[generator=3.0.4]
 Retrying...
rsync error: received SIGUSR1 (code 19) at main.c(1286) [receiver=3.0.4]


 Starting retry 1 of 3 with rsync://137.226.34.228/gentoo-portage
 Checking server timestamp ...
Welcome to rsync.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.34.228).
This server is part of the SunSITE Central Europe and is located
in Aachen, Germany (http://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de).

receiving incremental file list
timed out
rsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(541) 
[generator=3.0.4]
 Retrying...
[snip...]
==

An hour or so later resync'ing happens without any problem.  Why is this?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo File Manager

2008-12-23 Thread Mick

On Tuesday 23 December 2008, Philip Webb wrote:
 081223 Mick wrote:
  I am running Fluxbox which is lighter than KDE
  and when I just want to poke around a GUI quickly
  I have found that Konqueror takes quite a few seconds to fire up.
  Gentoo (file manager) pops up in no time at all and uses less resources.

 FYI  others', there's a very nice lightweight FM called 'vifm',
 which is in Portage  uses Vim-style commands in a terminal;
 no FM cb faster  it's highly configurable with many features.
 When I want to do heavy lifting, I use Krusader, which is very powerful.

Can you set up which application will open a file when :view is run depending 
on the type of file?
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: depclean wants to wipe out KDE3

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Dale wrote:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:04:06 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

Why would they? /usr/kde/3.5/bin comes first in KDE 3 sessions and
last in KDE 4 sessions. There's no problem at all.
Not here

% echo $PATH
/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/i486-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/qt/3/bin:/home/nelz/bin

Maybe because you *do* use kdeprefix. Maybe it's better without it,
like here, where it works ;D
I get the same order on this computer, which does not have KDE4.
That's because you don't have it.

`echo $PATH` in a KDE3 session:

/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/games/bin

`echo $PATH` in a KDE4 session:

/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/games/bin

So can we all agree now that the kdeprefix USE flag doesn't matter the
least with KDE3+KDE4 and that it's only there to support multiple
installations of KDE4? (Like KDE 4.0.x + 4.1.x at the same time.)

r...@smoker / # euse -i kdeprefix
global use flags (searching: kdeprefix)

[+ C ] kdeprefix - Makes a KDE prefixed install into /usr/kde/${SLOT}
if enabled or into /usr (FHS compatible) otherwise

local use flags (searching: kdeprefix)

no matching entries found
r...@smoker / #

Here's what it should say:

[+ C ] kdeprefix - Makes a KDE 4 prefixed install into [...]

How I know? I don't use kdeprefix and my KDE 3 is installed in
/usr/kde/3.5 ;)

Also, if you care to look you'll see that kdeprefix is not used by any
KDE3 ebuild.

I subscribe to the -dev thread and if I recall correctly, KDE 3.5
installs into /usr/kde/3.5 whether kdeprefix is set or not. KDE 3.5 and
earlier always has. However, KDE 4.0 has changed and requires that flag
if you want KDE 4.* installed in /usr/kde/4.*.

So, if you are not using KDE 4.*, then it has no effect yet. If you
have it set and have both KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.0, then it will install KDE
3.5 in /usr/kde/3.5 and KDE 4.0 in /usr/kde/4.*. If you have both KDE
3.5 and KDE 4.* and it is not set, it installs KDE 3.5 in /usr/kde/3.5
and KDE 4.* in /usr.

Since the people that do the ebuilds is the same people that wrote what
the flag does, I like how you want to change what it means. If they
don't know what the flag does, nobody else likely will either. If you
disagree with what it says, go to -dev and tell them to change it or
file a bug report.

Dale

:-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo File Manager

2008-12-23 Thread Philip Webb

081224 Mick wrote:
 On Tuesday 23 December 2008, Philip Webb wrote:
 FYI  others', there's a very nice lightweight FM called 'vifm',
 which is in Portage  uses Vim-style commands in a terminal;
 no FM cb faster  it's highly configurable with many features.
 When I want to do heavy lifting, I use Krusader, which is very powerful.
 Can you set up which application will open a file
 when :view is run depending on the type of file?

In  ~/.vifm/vifmarc2.0 , I have

  # The file type is for the default programs to be used with
  # a file extension.
  # FILETYPE=description=extension1,extension2=defaultprogram, program2
  # FILETYPE=Web=html,htm,shtml=links,mozilla,elvis
  # would set links as the default program for .html .htm .shtml files
  # The other pgms for the file type can be accessed with the :file command
  # The command macros %f, %F, %d, %F may be used in the commands.
  # The %a macro is ignored.  To use a % you must put %%.

  FILETYPE=Web=html,htm=lynx,dillo
  FILETYPE=Object=o=nm %f | less
  FILETYPE=Image=jpg,jpeg,png,gif=feh
  FILETYPE=Archive=tar.gz,tgz=tar -tzf %f | less,tar -zxvf %f

so it opens images with my favorite 'feh' (also worth looking into).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Changing profiles

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:


 no, you have to do -e  system first because system does not belong to world 
 anymore (for a couple of month it does not belong to world anymore. 6 or 
 something like that).



   

I was sort of in the discussion on -dev about this one.  From my
understanding, world and system works like it used to.  @system and
@world works the new way.  However, when I type in emerge -ep world and
then do emerge -pv @world, I get the same thing which includes the
packages in system as well.   This is a new install and I am using
portage-2.2_rc18.  I don't think I have edited anything that would
affect this.

I can attach the files if needed but only on request, maybe off list as
well.  I don't want to attach a good sized file and I have nowhere to
host it either. 

Thoughts?  Maybe test on your rig to see if you get the same?

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo File Manager

Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 23 December 2008 04:34:26 Dale wrote:
   
 Mick wrote:
 
 Hi All,

 I am trying out the Gentoo File Manager, but have run aground with the
 way it opens certain types of files.  How can I create an association to
 e.g. use xpdf to open pdf files and OOo (oowriter) to open .odt and .doc
 files?  All I get now is a plain text editor firing up and opening such
 files.  Same applies with pictures, videos, etc.
   
 For those that are stumped like I was, it looks neat.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_(file_manager)

 I wish this was in portage.  I'd like to give this a ride and see how I
 like it.  Any reason it is not in portage?  Does it look neat but suck
 in real use or something?  I use Konqueror for mine right now but curious.
 

 Ahem...

 a...@nazgul /var/portage/x11-base $ eix -e gentoo
 * app-misc/gentoo
  Available versions:  0.11.55 (~)0.11.56 {fam gnome nls}
  Homepage:http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/
  Description: A modern GTK+ based filemanager for any WM

 I guess the eggnog must taste real good down in your next of the woods this 
 time of year :-)


   

Well, I'm a t'totaller myself.  I leave the drinking up to my brother. 
It was just a oversight.  I wasn't looking hard enough I guess and
missed it all together.  It has happened before and I'm sure it will
happen again I'm sorry to say. 

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: video driver discovery

Alan McKinnon wrote:

 Weren't you looking for the X video driver? You won't find that in lspci, 
 it's 
 a user-space driver loaded by the X server. You may well find information 
 related to 3D rendering and frame buffers though.

   

Mine does:

02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX
5200] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 10
Memory at dc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at dd00 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
Capabilities: [44] AGP version 3.0
Kernel driver in use: nvidia   ---   This one
here.
Kernel modules: nvidia

I'm using the nvidia driver instead of the nv driver that is in the
kernel.  Correct?

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: video driver discovery