Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)FIXED
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:57:32 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: Except Maxim doesn't want automatic hotplugging, he wants to mount the LV from init scripts. In /etc/rc.conf I uncommented the line rc_hotplug=* on a hunch and it did the trick! That's not the hotplugging Alan was referring to (desktop automounting) but the udev hotplugging. It's odd that forcing the modules to load didn't have the same effect, but the main thing is it now works. -- Neil Bothwick I doubt therefore I might be. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)NOT-FIXED
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:32:56 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: Going cuckoo here @!#. I said it was fixed. I uncommented the rc_hotplug line in rc.conf and rebooted and it worked! The volumes were found and mounted. Fantasia! Now I rebooted again having tried to shut of dhcpcd, using rc-update del net.lo because I'd rather do that manually, but not only do the volumes not mount, dhcpcd is still running and taking its own sweet time finding out there is no net service available at this location unless it involves a phone line. Guess you're right, I don't want hotplugging. I never said you don't want hotplugging. Set rc_hotplug to !net.* to disable network hotplugging, and add net.lo back to the boot runlevel, you really don't want to disable that, and it doesn't need DHCP. -- Neil Bothwick Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Problem with Thinkpad lenovo 3500
Hi all. I have a ThinkPad lenovo R500 running the latest GENTOO. Everything works, but I have 2 problems: 1) OpenGL screen saver do not works 2) Graphic is not very fast. I think the first problem is related to the second one. I think (but I'm not sure) that the source of my problem is this: x...@localhost ~ $ glxinfo | grep renderer OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer However, x...@localhost ~ $ glxinfo | grep direct direct rendering: Yes x...@localhost ~ $ dmesg | grep -i agp [1.708652] Linux agpgart interface v0.103 [1.708775] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel Mobile Intel�� GM45 Express Chipset [1.709925] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected 32764K stolen memory [1.713030] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xd000 Do you have any idea about what can I do to solve this problem? Thank you in advance, Massimiliano
[gentoo-user] evolution icons missing
I have two systems using evolution 2.6.2 - one is fine, the other has some (not all) icons missing - folder icon in the tree view, the online icon at the bottom status bar plus some others. They show the broken icon graphic instead. Rebuilt it with no change - whats the likely cause? (perhaps package to rebuild?) BillK -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] evolution icons missing
William Kenworthy schrieb: I have two systems using evolution 2.6.2 - one is fine, the other has some (not all) icons missing - folder icon in the tree view, the online icon at the bottom status bar plus some others. They show the broken icon graphic instead. Rebuilt it with no change - whats the likely cause? (perhaps package to rebuild?) BillK Maybe it is related to http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=273580 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] g-cpan not pulling in the correct depencies
I'm trying to use g-cpan to pull in Bundle-InterchangeKitchenSink: http://search.cpan.org/~MIKEH/Bundle-InterchangeKitchenSink/InterchangeKitchenSink.pm but the list of dependencies is way off. Is g-cpan just broken? That's about it, yes. (I think the way perl is handled in Gentoo is in serious need of review.) Of course, what you are trying to install, to be fair, isn't exactly trivial and g-cpan does trivial well enough... usually. So, perhaps you could just install the pieces you need? I don't think portage will ever be able to handle CPAN 'bundles'. Just gcpan -g for each item in the package from a shell script. Maybe it will work once you have an ebuild for each needed module, or you can see which one is just way off... and edit to work. You do have the (perl-experimental) overlay? Thanks Michael. I don't have that overlay. What would it do for me? An improved g-cpan? - Grant
[gentoo-user] radeon driver, hd2600 card, no dri
Hello, I'd like to know if anyone has any ideas about this. After some tinkering around I've finally managed to get somewhat working a setup with the xf86-video-ati (radeon) driver. I am using a vanilla 2.6.30 kernel, xorg-server 1.6 and x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.2. But I've tried many more versions that range from stable to live builds of everything. The results have been *exactly* the same, no matter which versions do I consider. The driver only works when I add this to my xorg.conf: Option DRI off According to the man page, dri should work with my card (and that's why I have to explicitly disable it, indeed). I don't want fancy cubes or stuff like that. My main concern about having dri off is that xvideo doesn't work without it. 2d performance also sucks which is definitely a bad thing. When I have DRI on my screen is corrupted to the point that's unusable, you can see it here: http://jesgue.homelinux.org/other-files/foo.jpg This is what you should see instead: http://jesgue.homelinux.org/other-files/bar.jpg This is the log: no errors, no nothing. It says it works nicely, but it obviously doesn't. http://pastebin.ca/1463295 And my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ca/1463374 Additional stuff: = # uname -a Linux jesgue 2.6.30 #7 PREEMPT Fri Jun 12 01:26:58 CEST 2009 x86_64 AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux # lsmod Module Size Used by radeon379392 0 drm 184576 1 radeon oss_usb 123220 0 oss_audigyls 21792 0 osscore 566436 2 oss_usb,oss_audigyls nfs 172856 1 nfsd 113384 9 lockd 82000 2 nfs,nfsd exportfs5424 1 nfsd sunrpc218184 15 nfs,nfsd,lockd sr_mod 16644 0 # ls -l /dev/dri/card0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root video 226, 0 jun 17 13:57 /dev/dri/card0 = So I haven't dri and I can't use xvideo. There are many more annoying things about this driver. But this is the most annoying one. fglrx is worse with each release, and now once again I have to use whatever version of xorg and the kernel they want. I am fed up with this and that's why I'd like to migrate to either radeon or radeonhd. But so far it's being a frustrating experience. Sometimes I think that the only future for ati users is going to be the framebuffer :p Thanks for reading and for any tip you can share :) -- Jesús Guerrero
[gentoo-user] Bad mirror in portage?
My latest sync was busted, and not being aware of picking my own mirrors, I wonder what to do about it. Message follows: * Running emerge --sync !! !! NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE !! !! If you are seeing this message, you are not in the right place. Please check our website http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca for the proper hostnames for connection. This host no longer contains data. @ERROR: Unknown module 'gentoo-portage' rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1504) [receiver=3.0.5] --- ** April 21, 2009 ... And so on -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mirror in portage?
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 15:24:35 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: My latest sync was busted, and not being aware of picking my own mirrors, I wonder what to do about it. Message follows: * Running emerge --sync !! !! NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE !! !! If you are seeing this message, you are not in the right place. Please check our website http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca for the proper hostnames for connection. This host no longer contains data. @ERROR: Unknown module 'gentoo-portage' rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1504) [receiver=3.0.5] --- ** April 21, 2009 ... And so on If you need a mirror run by a known person that you can blame when things go south, you *could* use mine: GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://ftp.is.co.za/mirror/gentoo.org/; SYNC=rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage That poor machine gets lonely down here in South Africa, doesn't get to speak to foreigners much, and my Network Operations guys keep pestering me to find ways to stress out the peering links to that other competing ISP (I think they just want to bloat the graphs to justify buying new expensive Cisco toys - not that there's anything wrong in that :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mirror in portage?
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 17 June 2009 15:24:35 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: My latest sync was busted, and not being aware of picking my own mirrors, I wonder what to do about it. Message follows: * Running emerge --sync !! !! NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE !! !! If you are seeing this message, you are not in the right place. Please check our website http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca for the proper hostnames for connection. This host no longer contains data. @ERROR: Unknown module 'gentoo-portage' rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1504) [receiver=3.0.5] --- ** April 21, 2009 ... And so on If you need a mirror run by a known person that you can blame when things go south, you *could* use mine: GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://ftp.is.co.za/mirror/gentoo.org/; SYNC=rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage That poor machine gets lonely down here in South Africa, doesn't get to speak to foreigners much, and my Network Operations guys keep pestering me to find ways to stress out the peering links to that other competing ISP (I think they just want to bloat the graphs to justify buying new expensive Cisco toys - not that there's anything wrong in that :-) Interesting offer, but I found mirrorselect on my own in the meantime, and first in its list is a site that I know is a 2-hour drive away (my grad school alma mater), and I like to keep global load down... not that I have anything against Cisco. Thnaks for the offer, though. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
[gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
Where do we list modules we want loaded at boot? When I run modprobe fuse WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/. /etc/modprobe.conf doesn't actually appear to have any modules listed but does list a herd of aliases for modules. Looking under /etc/modprobe.d aliases.conf blacklist.conf i386.conf pnp-aliases.conf All of which appear to hold the same or more lists of aliases. So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it?
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Where do we list modules we want loaded at boot? When I run modprobe fuse WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/. /etc/modprobe.conf doesn't actually appear to have any modules listed but does list a herd of aliases for modules. Looking under /etc/modprobe.d aliases.conf blacklist.conf i386.conf pnp-aliases.conf All of which appear to hold the same or more lists of aliases. So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it? It's been the same as long as I've been using Gentoo the past 5 years: /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. This has always been in the handbook as long as I've been using Gentoo, too. 7.e. Kernel Modules Configuring the Modules You should list the modules you want automatically loaded in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. You can add extra options to the modules too if you want. -- I recommend reading the entire handbook from start to finish; it has plenty of valuable information and will avoid unnecessary questions. -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] Sysloggers
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Does anyone have decent experience with sysloggers other than syslog-ng, and be willing to share experiences? I'm especially interested in some of the advanced features of syslog-ng Premium from Balabit.com (based on and extending their open source version): SSL-encrypted traffic over the network Disk-based buffering on the client Windows agents Timezone aware (which syslog doesn't do and syslog-ng only partially) Encrypted disk files Filter, parse and rewrite incoming logs (vital if you need the auth log over here and the password field stored over there, without jumping through hoops first) High scalability - 2000 Cisco devices and 200+ servers to start, distributed country wide -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com syslog-ng is the de facto standard. Metalog is fine for desktops, but I use syslog-ng on all my servers. Nearly all programs that can process log files are compatible with it. -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mirror in portage?
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 17 June 2009 15:24:35 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: My latest sync was busted, and not being aware of picking my own mirrors, I wonder what to do about it. Message follows: * Running emerge --sync !! !! NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE !! !! If you are seeing this message, you are not in the right place. Please check our website http://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca for the proper hostnames for connection. This host no longer contains data. @ERROR: Unknown module 'gentoo-portage' rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1504) [receiver=3.0.5] --- ** April 21, 2009 ... And so on If you need a mirror run by a known person that you can blame when things go south, you *could* use mine: GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://ftp.is.co.za/mirror/gentoo.org/; SYNC=rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage That poor machine gets lonely down here in South Africa, doesn't get to speak to foreigners much, and my Network Operations guys keep pestering me to find ways to stress out the peering links to that other competing ISP (I think they just want to bloat the graphs to justify buying new expensive Cisco toys - not that there's anything wrong in that :-) Interesting offer, but I found mirrorselect on my own in the meantime, and first in its list is a site that I know is a 2-hour drive away (my grad school alma mater), and I like to keep global load down... not that I have anything against Cisco. Thnaks for the offer, though. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD Mirrorselect is certainly your friend, and described in the Gentoo Handbook. If you haven't already, I would use it to select a rsync mirror, too. -- - Mark Shields
[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with Thinkpad lenovo 3500
Do someone know which test can I do to understand what do I miss ? Thanks, Massimiliano On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Massimiliano Ziccardi massimiliano.zicca...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I have a ThinkPad lenovo R500 running the latest GENTOO. Everything works, but I have 2 problems: 1) OpenGL screen saver do not works 2) Graphic is not very fast. I think the first problem is related to the second one. I think (but I'm not sure) that the source of my problem is this: x...@localhost ~ $ glxinfo | grep renderer OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer However, x...@localhost ~ $ glxinfo | grep direct direct rendering: Yes x...@localhost ~ $ dmesg | grep -i agp [1.708652] Linux agpgart interface v0.103 [1.708775] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel Mobile Intel�� GM45 Express Chipset [1.709925] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected 32764K stolen memory [1.713030] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xd000 Do you have any idea about what can I do to solve this problem? Thank you in advance, Massimiliano
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:31:23 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it? It's been the same as long as I've been using Gentoo the past 5 years: /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. This has always been in the handbook as long as I've been using Gentoo, too. That's for baselayout1. For baselayout2/openrc it has moved to /etc/conf.d/modules. -- Neil Bothwick There's no place like http://www.home.com signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mirror in portage?
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: My latest sync was busted, and not being aware of picking my own mirrors, I wonder what to do about it. I use the meta-mirrors, as listed in and suggested by the commented parts of make.conf: SYNC is the server used by rsync to retrieve a localized rsync mirror rotation. This allows you to select servers that are geographically close to you, yet still distribute the load over a number of servers. Please do not single out specific rsync mirrors. Doing so places undue stress on particular mirrors. Instead you may use one of the following continent specific rotations: Default: rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage North America: rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage South America: rsync://rsync.samerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage Europe:rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage Asia: rsync://rsync.asia.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage Australia: rsync://rsync.au.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
Re: [gentoo-user] Bad mirror in portage?
Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: My latest sync was busted, and not being aware of picking my own mirrors, I wonder what to do about it. I use the meta-mirrors, as listed in and suggested by the commented parts of make.conf: SYNC is the server used by rsync to retrieve a localized rsync mirror rotation. This allows you to select servers that are geographically close to you, yet still distribute the load over a number of servers. Please do not single out specific rsync mirrors. Doing so places undue stress on particular mirrors. Instead you may use one of the following continent specific rotations: Default: rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage North America: rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage South America: rsync://rsync.samerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage Europe:rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage Asia: rsync://rsync.asia.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage Australia: rsync://rsync.au.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage I got the same error this morning as described by the OP and I use North America meta-mirror for my SYNC target. Most likely, the change at Arctic Networks has not been communicated to the mirror folks at infra, or they haven't yet gotten around to updating the meta-mirror. Aaron
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)NOT-FIXED
Guess you're right, I don't want hotplugging. I never said you don't want hotplugging. Set rc_hotplug to you said automatic hotplugging; is that something else? !net.* to disable network hotplugging, and add net.lo back to the boot thanks Neil, speeds up the boot process a lot. May I ask where you got that? It's not in man rc.conf. mw
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)NOT-FIXED
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:41:14 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: Guess you're right, I don't want hotplugging. I never said you don't want hotplugging. Set rc_hotplug to you said automatic hotplugging; is that something else? I explained that in my previous post, Alan was referring to desktop hotplugging, like mounting removable devices when they are connected, a completely different use of the same word. !net.* to disable network hotplugging, and add net.lo back to the boot thanks Neil, speeds up the boot process a lot. May I ask where you got that? It's not in man rc.conf. It's in the comments in the original file. -- Neil Bothwick Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] g-cpan not pulling in the correct depencies
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:07:31 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: You do have the (perl-experimental) overlay? Thanks Michael. I don't have that overlay. What would it do for me? It's where other ebuilds wind up if no one puts them in the official tree. So, if there needs to be some customisation of an ebuild, it *may* already be done in the overlay. And g-cpan should find it and use it, so may save some time and hassle. An improved g-cpan? Unfortunately, not... BTW, there is a patch to g-cpan which hasn't made it into the tree. I haven't tried it but... looking at the code, it may help a bit with some blatant errors. Still, I don't think a CPAN 'bundle' is going to fly very well using this code... since I believe a 'bundle' really relies on CPAN doing the work, not a package manager. HTH. -- |\ /|| | ~ ~ | \/ ||---| `|` ? ||ichael | |iggins\^ / michael.higgins[at]evolone[dot]org
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)NOT-FIXED
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 17:44:22 Neil Bothwick wrote: I never said you don't want hotplugging. Set rc_hotplug to you said automatic hotplugging; is that something else? I explained that in my previous post, Alan was referring to desktop hotplugging, like mounting removable devices when they are connected, a completely different use of the same word. The only reason I brought up a desktop system is that I've found Ubuntu to be a very reliable distro for finding out which *kernel modules* are actually needed - because it does convenient automagic stuff and does it right. The fact that it's aligned around desktop users is of no significance here, but looking back, it would be easy to miss that bit. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)NOT-FIXED
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:14:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The fact that it's aligned around desktop users is of no significance here, but looking back, it would be easy to miss that bit. It was where you said I also find in general that rescue systems are not very good at these desktopy things, and automagic SD card hotplugging is very much something driven by desktop usage. This isn't about hotplugging or mounting the card, which is very desktopy, it stays in place,but hotplugging/autoloading the driver for the card slot. -- Neil Bothwick Everybody needs a little love sometime; stop hacking and fall in love! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm problem(s)
Locking type 1 initialisation failed googling this finds precious little -- whether spelled with an 's' or a 'z', but check this: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118275#c16 A lot like my situation: the unit boots, the above error flashes by, I log into a crippled system and enter the two commands #vgchange -a y and #mount -a, and everything's fine. Then in comment #19 the poster mentions using the lvm2 option in the genkernel. Well, there's no such option in the 2.6.29 kernel. Is there some way to pass the two commands, vgchange and mount as options to dm-mod? In /etc/conf.d/modules, lvm? Or, is this a bad idea altogether? mw
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:31:23 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it? It's been the same as long as I've been using Gentoo the past 5 years: /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. This has always been in the handbook as long as I've been using Gentoo, too. That's for baselayout1. For baselayout2/openrc it has moved to /etc/conf.d/modules. So I guess when people are asking questions like this, they need to start stating what baselayout they are using. Of course, emerge --info would do this but most don't include that, including me most of the time. After the corg-server update, I'm dreading that upgrade. I'm still on the old xorg. The baselayout if not done carefully could leave a person with a broke OS. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Sysloggers
Mark Shields wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Does anyone have decent experience with sysloggers other than syslog-ng, and be willing to share experiences? I'm especially interested in some of the advanced features of syslog-ng Premium from Balabit.com (based on and extending their open source version): SSL-encrypted traffic over the network Disk-based buffering on the client Windows agents Timezone aware (which syslog doesn't do and syslog-ng only partially) Encrypted disk files Filter, parse and rewrite incoming logs (vital if you need the auth log over here and the password field stored over there, without jumping through hoops first) High scalability - 2000 Cisco devices and 200+ servers to start, distributed country wide -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com syslog-ng is the de facto standard. Metalog is fine for desktops, but I use syslog-ng on all my servers. Nearly all programs that can process log files are compatible with it. -- - Mark Shields Same here. I do wish it would fill my log full of dups tho. Sometimes my DVD thinks there is media in there and it is trying to read it when it is empty. Since it does this every two seconds, it can create a HUGE messages file in a hurry. logrotate helps with this but still, no need doing the same line hundreds of thousands of times. Dale :-) :-) P. S. Now some guru tell me that it can be told not to do that. :/
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:29:41 -0500, Dale wrote: After the corg-server update, I'm dreading that upgrade. I'm still on the old xorg. The baselayout if not done carefully could leave a person with a broke OS. Unlikely, as long as you run etc-update or equivalent. The ebuild takes care of migrating several config files, you only need to follow the steps in the migration guide referred to in the elog messages. -- Neil Bothwick I do not like this dumb machine I really ought to sell it. It never does just what I want But only what I tell it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:29:41 -0500, Dale wrote: After the corg-server update, I'm dreading that upgrade. I'm still on the old xorg. The baselayout if not done carefully could leave a person with a broke OS. Unlikely, as long as you run etc-update or equivalent. The ebuild takes care of migrating several config files, you only need to follow the steps in the migration guide referred to in the elog messages. I did that with the xorg upgrade, followed the guide. I still can't get it to work. I'm on the old xorg now. That's why I dread some of these upgrades. Broke OS or broke X bothers me. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:31:23 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: So if I want to load `fuse' at boot... where do it put it? It's been the same as long as I've been using Gentoo the past 5 years: /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6. This has always been in the handbook as long as I've been using Gentoo, too. That's for baselayout1. For baselayout2/openrc it has moved to /etc/conf.d/modules. -- Neil Bothwick There's no place like http://www.home.com Baselayout 2 isn't used in the hardened gentoo base; it's ~x86 keyword (on x86). That's what I was going by. The handbook still references /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#book_part1_chap7 -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:38:09 -0500, Dale wrote: Unlikely, as long as you run etc-update or equivalent. The ebuild takes care of migrating several config files, you only need to follow the steps in the migration guide referred to in the elog messages. I did that with the xorg upgrade, followed the guide. I still can't get it to work. I'm on the old xorg now. That's why I dread some of these upgrades. Broke OS or broke X bothers me. The difference is that this one is under the direct control of Gentoo devs, so it really ought to work, and does. -- Neil Bothwick Why is the word abbreviation so long? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Canonical place to list modules to load
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:38:09 -0500, Dale wrote: Unlikely, as long as you run etc-update or equivalent. The ebuild takes care of migrating several config files, you only need to follow the steps in the migration guide referred to in the elog messages. I did that with the xorg upgrade, followed the guide. I still can't get it to work. I'm on the old xorg now. That's why I dread some of these upgrades. Broke OS or broke X bothers me. The difference is that this one is under the direct control of Gentoo devs, so it really ought to work, and does. That is what I have heard and am hoping for. I think the things the devs do is better than upstream most of the time. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot figure out emerge blocks
On Mittwoch 17 Juni 2009, Jim Cunning wrote:
('ebuild', '/', 'media-sound/phonon-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by
media-sound/phonon required by
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.1', 'merge')
media-sound/phonon required by
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-4.5.1', 'merge')
media-sound/phonon required by
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-demo-4.5.1', 'merge')
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-phonon-4.5.1', 'merge') pulled in by
~x11-libs/qt-phonon-4.5.1:4 required by
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-demo-4.5.1', 'merge')
For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
please consider searching the email archives for this list in the future. The
phonon mess has been explained only a few days ago.
as a kde user you want media-sound/phonon
all you need to know:
http://ben.liveforge.org/2009/06/03/preventing-the-qt-phonon-vs-phonon-block
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot figure out emerge blocks
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 13:44 -0700, Jim Cunning wrote:
I followed the procedures to convert from monolithic KDE ebuilds to -meta
versions of the KDE ebuilds. Now I have a huge number of blocks that I don't
understand and cannot figure out how to fix. My apologies for the size of
the text to follow, but the output from 'emerge -uDavN world' is listed
below.
I have reviewed the man pages and online info on blocked packages and don't
see how to fix my situation. Can anyone give me a nudge in the right
direction?:
Thanks,
Jim
==
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
[blocks B ] media-sound/phonon (media-sound/phonon is blocking
x11-libs/qt-phonon-4.5.1)
[blocks B ] x11-libs/qt-phonon:4 (x11-libs/qt-phonon:4 is blocking
media-sound/phonon-4.3.1)
Total: 345 packages (317 upgrades, 19 new, 7 in new slots, 2 reinstalls, 4
uninstalls), Size of downloads: 488,132 kB
Conflict: 35 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
Portage tree and overlays:
[0] /usr/portage
[?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined
* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.
('ebuild', '/', 'media-sound/phonon-4.3.1', 'merge') pulled in by
media-sound/phonon required by
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.1', 'merge')
media-sound/phonon required by
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-4.5.1', 'merge')
media-sound/phonon required by
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-demo-4.5.1', 'merge')
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-phonon-4.5.1', 'merge') pulled in by
~x11-libs/qt-phonon-4.5.1:4 required by
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/qt-demo-4.5.1', 'merge')
Hello :)
Without reading the hole listing, I think that you have do some stuff
manually: there is for example a circular dependency between qt-phonon
and phonon. Actually its more of an anti-dependency ;) They can't be
installed at the same time.
In /usr/portage/x11-libs/qt-phonon/qt-phonon-4.5.1.ebuild you find:
DEPEND=... !media-sound/phonon ...
SLOT=4
In /usr/portage/media-sound/phonon/phonon-4.3.1.ebuild you find:
RDEPEND=... !x11-libs/qt-phonon:4 ...
Now try to look at the dependency tree (using emerges -t option) to
see what pulls in phonon and what pulls in qt-phonon. Maybe one of it is
not needed or has unneeded USE-flags
* Maybe change some USE-flags for QT or KDE.
* Try to emerge one of the two packages manually (using -1 option),
and see what happens to your update-world.
Sorry... just generic clues...
Bye,
Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot figure out emerge blocks
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 14:07:01 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: please consider searching the email archives for this list in the future. The phonon mess has been explained only a few days ago. as a kde user you want media-sound/phonon all you need to know: http://ben.liveforge.org/2009/06/03/preventing-the-qt-phonon-vs-phonon-bloc k Looking through http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user didn't give me any more information than I already had, namely the problem with kde 3.5.9 vs 3.5.10 blocking issues, and monolithic vs -meta ebuilds. I didn't know about the phonon issues, and going back to the archive, I still didn't see any reference to it. Sorry to have offended you. -- Jim signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Sysloggers
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 16:33:39 Mark Shields wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Does anyone have decent experience with sysloggers other than syslog-ng, and be willing to share experiences? I'm especially interested in some of the advanced features of syslog-ng Premium from Balabit.com (based on and extending their open source version): SSL-encrypted traffic over the network Disk-based buffering on the client Windows agents Timezone aware (which syslog doesn't do and syslog-ng only partially) Encrypted disk files Filter, parse and rewrite incoming logs (vital if you need the auth log over here and the password field stored over there, without jumping through hoops first) High scalability - 2000 Cisco devices and 200+ servers to start, distributed country wide -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com syslog-ng is the de facto standard. Metalog is fine for desktops, but I use syslog-ng on all my servers. Nearly all programs that can process log files are compatible with it. I can't argue with that. I just get a little paranoid about auth logs being sent (with credentials) over partially-open networks, hence the attraction of encrypted traffic -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot figure out emerge blocks
On Mittwoch 17 Juni 2009, Jim Cunning wrote: On Wednesday 17 June 2009 14:07:01 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: please consider searching the email archives for this list in the future. The phonon mess has been explained only a few days ago. as a kde user you want media-sound/phonon all you need to know: http://ben.liveforge.org/2009/06/03/preventing-the-qt-phonon-vs-phonon-bl oc k Looking through http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user didn't give me any more information than I already had, namely the problem with kde 3.5.9 vs 3.5.10 blocking issues, and monolithic vs -meta ebuilds. I didn't know about the phonon issues, and going back to the archive, I still didn't see any reference to it. Sorry to have offended you. you didn't 'offend' me. It is a simple fact that you can save yourself a lot of time and keep frustration away searching the archives. I just let kmail search for 'phonon' which gave me as a result the 'strange world' thread where someone had the same problem: phonon blocks. It really had advantages to keep all the mails local ;) But even then - your google-fu seems lacking ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] Sysloggers
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:31:24 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I can't argue with that. I just get a little paranoid about auth logs being sent (with credentials) over partially-open networks, hence the attraction of encrypted traffic What about using an SSH tunnel? -- Neil Bothwick If Wile E. Coyote had enough money to buy all that ACME crap, why didn't he just buy dinner? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Sysloggers
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 23:48:38 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:31:24 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I can't argue with that. I just get a little paranoid about auth logs being sent (with credentials) over partially-open networks, hence the attraction of encrypted traffic What about using an SSH tunnel? I thought about that - people other than me set up most of the machines and this may or may not be easy for them to do in practice. I'm sure you've seen how easy it is for otherwise smart people to royally screw up anything with ssh in it's name... Just keeping my options open, maybe there's something better suited to what I need than vanilla syslog-ng -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Sysloggers
On Wednesday 17 June 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 17 June 2009 23:48:38 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:31:24 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I can't argue with that. I just get a little paranoid about auth logs being sent (with credentials) over partially-open networks, hence the attraction of encrypted traffic What about using an SSH tunnel? I thought about that - people other than me set up most of the machines and this may or may not be easy for them to do in practice. I'm sure you've seen how easy it is for otherwise smart people to royally screw up anything with ssh in it's name... Just keeping my options open, maybe there's something better suited to what I need than vanilla syslog-ng Perhaps rsyslog? http://www.rsyslog.com Among others, it offers support for on-demand disk buffering, reliable syslog over TCP, SSL, TLS and RELP, writing to databases (MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, and many more), email alerting, fully configurable output formats (including high-precision timestamps), the ability to filter on any part of the syslog message, on-the-wire message compression, and the ability to convert text files to syslog. It is a drop-in replacement for stock syslogd and able to work with the same configuration file syntax. It's in portage. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
