Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 06:24:22 Maxim Wexler wrote: so tell me how come none of you quarter-brights have responded to the email where I say this problem has been fixed? Maybe because you were making such a ruckus with your three-year old style tantrums that everyone who cares stopped reading the thread already? The only people left are ancient codgers like me who take delight in penning witty responses, dripping with sarcasm, designed to highlight just how idiotic behaviour on the intartubes can be you want to help? answer me this: why did # /var/git/openrc/git pull --rebase update all init.d services except net.lo? That's today's scintillating question. How do I know? Why do I care? Um, let's see. What could do this? Wait, wait, I know! It's a bug! doh BUT WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH YOUR IMAGINARY FSCK ISSUES? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] spamassassin error
Hi
don't know if this helps, but here you can see my use flags and it worls
on my system:
[I] mail-filter/spamassassin
Available versions: 3.1.8 3.1.8-r1 ~3.2.0 ~3.2.0-r1 ~3.2.1
3.2.1-r1 ~3.2.2 ~3.2.3 ~3.2.4 ~3.2.5 ~3.2.5-r1 {berkdb doc ipv6 ldap
mysql postgres qmail sqlite ssl tools}
Installed versions: 3.2.1-r1(06:48:52 27.08.2009)(berkdb mysql
sqlite ssl -doc -ipv6 -ldap -postgres -qmail -tools)
Homepage:http://spamassassin.apache.org/
Description: SpamAssassin is an extensible email filter
which is used to identify spam.
problably the
perl-core/DB_File
needs the berkdb flag...
and maybe you should start it with -D so you get an better error message.
cheers
Arnau Bria schrieb:
Hi all,
I've a cron which trains my spamassassin and it has sttoped working:
/usr/bin/sa-learn --spam /home/arnau/Mail/SPAM/
ERROR: the Bayes learn function returned an error, please re-run with -D for
more information
the problem comes because there's a missing package:
perl-core/DB_File
but seems that emerge doesn't want to install it, and I'm wondering
what use I'm missing:
[I] mail-filter/spamassassin
Available versions: 3.1.8 3.1.8-r1 ~3.2.0 ~3.2.0-r1 ~3.2.1 3.2.1-r1
~3.2.2 ~3.2.3 ~3.2.4 ~3.2.5 ~3.2.5-r1 {berkdb doc ipv6 ldap mysql postgres
qmail sqlite ssl tools}
Installed versions: 3.2.1-r1(06:15:05 PM 11/11/2009)(ssl -berkdb -doc
-ipv6 -ldap -mysql -postgres -qmail -sqlite -tools)
or what I'm doing wrong :-)
do I have to add DB_File to world? cause if I install the package with
oneshot option, depclean wants to remove it.
Anyone faced same problem?
Cheers,
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:24:22 -0700, Maxim Wexler wrote: so tell me how come none of you quarter-brights have responded to the email where I say this problem has been fixed? Because your attitude sucks. you want to help? Frankly, no. Good luck in getting help in future when you respond to genuine advice, offered freely, with abuse. plonk -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 17: Clearly misunderstood signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] spamassassin error
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:06:04 -0500
David David wrote:
[...]
Looking at the ebuild looks like berkdb pulls it in;
spamassassin/spamassassin-3.2.1-r1.ebuild
berkdb? (
virtual/perl-DB_File
virtual/perl-DB_File/perl-DB_File-1.813.ebuild
DESCRIPTION=Virtual for DB_File
RDEPEND=~perl-core/DB_File-${PV}
thanks, that's it. missing flag.
but it's not in:
http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml :-(
thanks, I have to start looking into ebuilds.
Cheers!
--
Arnau Bria
http://blog.emergetux.net
Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
Maxim really has a bad attitude, but I'll try once more, and only once. This post I quote from Willie Wong has an step-by-step guide that Maxim obviously didn't read, because even the most utterly illiterate person would understand it. On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:56:53 -0500, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote: (a) When AC cord is plugged in, fsck runs on boot. (b) When running on battery, fsck refuses to run on boot. (c) When fsck does not run, your computer refuses to mount /var and /home? [...] (i) You have a broken ext2 file system. Probably marked dirty from a bad unmount prior to shutdown. (ii) On boot, when the AC cord is plugged in, fsck runs, so any error is fixed, and if no error, the file system is marked clean again. (ii') When running on battery, because devs don't want fsck to run half way and have the computer run out of battery (which may corrupt the FS beyond whatever state it is already in), fsck does not run. (iii) Since the file system is marked clean, when the AC cord is in, the system boots fine. Directories are mounted, you can use it as usual. (iii') When the AC cord is out, the file system is still marked dirty, since fsck did not have a chance to look at it. Mount refuses to process those directories because Bad Things (tm) can happen. So your boot fails. Again, if (a-c) are correct, then what Neil and Alan said does NOT in anyway contradict your observation I quoted just above; in fact, your quote seems to make their diagnosis even more reasonable. According to what I vaguely remember of this thread (again correct me if I am wrong), you see the symptom that (iii) behaves differently from (iii'), and want to fix it by making its immediate causes (ii) and (ii') agree. What Neil and Alan are telling you is that (ii) vs (ii') should never be a problem (and I agree: on my Gigabyte netbook my ext2 and my ext3 partitions never showed any behaviour like yours), and in fact it is probably by design. That the reason why (iii) and (iii') differ is actually (i). What Maxim fails to see is that fsck *is not a fix* for his problem. The real problem is that the fs is marked dirty, and that happens because it has not been unmounted the right way on shutdown. When fsck runs at boot time, the fs is marked clean and it can be mounted, when fsck doesn't run it isn't marked clean, and, hence, it can't be mounted. Please, Maxim, once and for all, understand that running fsck when the power is low is bad, it could completely break your fs, do you really think that's an acceptable policy Please, Maxim, once and for all, understand that if an fs is marked as non-clean, it can't be mounted, because it could completely break your fs, and you would lose all your data in a single sweep, is that an acceptable policy??? Plese, Maxim, once and for all, understand that the real problem is *why is your fs being marked dirty*??? That's the problem that you don't seem to be aware of, you are now just feeling a rigid zealotry for your cause and you are not even listening any longer. Please, read this post, quotes fron Wong included, and try to understand what we are saying before even responding. You are only repeating yourself but with the powercord it works, explain me why?, and we have done so many times already: with your power cord, fsck works, when fsck works, the fs is marked clean, when it's clean it can be mounted. Right? Now ask yourself: why is not not clean? Why??? To explain your crazy theories you have invented some rules that never existed, during more than 15 years of ext2, it NEVER ever required fsck to boot, that's an invention of you. Others have already told you that fsck DOESN'T run at every boot. Only when the fs is not clean or when it's due. They even told you that the tune2fs tool can be used to control this, and that fstab can as well. You didn't even bother to check the man pages, instead you just continue to invent theories that can support your crazy idea that the Earth is flat so everything can fit together in your mind. If you want help, we are handing it to you, if not, please, just stop and good luck anywhere else. Regards, and some tea. -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 18:02:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Everyone should read the following and follow the advice given: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear- of-gnu-patch-2-6 sigh I emerged patch-2.60 when it hit ~amd64 then downgraded it 10 days later when a report on b.g.o. showed it was affecting OOo. Right in the middle of those 10 days, I ran this: emerge -e world /sigh -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Looong delays
Hi This has been bothering me for some time now. I have a Dell PC at work, Intel Core2 Duo with 4gb ram etc. Whenever something does a lot of disk access, the PC slows down to a halt? I remember some issue between Firefox and the kernel causing long pauses, but I've had several different kernel versions running. I also use the ntfs-3g driver for write access to a doze partition, but although the degradation in performance more severe with the ntfs-3g driver, access to the native (ext3) partition also drags the system down for a while. I checked obvious things like whether or not I enable SMP in the kernel. I tried changing the kernel pre-emption from low latency desktop to desktop, but the problem persist. The application that is mostly involved when I get these long delays is FireFox, VMWare and emerge (emerge --sync). Everything is compiled 64bit but I have the 32bit emulation libs. Can anyone point me into some direction? Regards Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] Looong delays
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:22:38 +0200, Dirk Uys dirkc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi This has been bothering me for some time now. I have a Dell PC at work, Intel Core2 Duo with 4gb ram etc. Whenever something does a lot of disk access, the PC slows down to a halt? I remember some issue between Firefox and the kernel causing long pauses, but I've had several different kernel versions running. I also use the ntfs-3g driver for write access to a doze partition, but although the degradation in performance more severe with the ntfs-3g driver, access to the native (ext3) partition also drags the system down for a while. I checked obvious things like whether or not I enable SMP in the kernel. I tried changing the kernel pre-emption from low latency desktop to desktop, but the problem persist. The application that is mostly involved when I get these long delays is FireFox, VMWare and emerge (emerge --sync). Everything is compiled 64bit but I have the 32bit emulation libs. Can anyone point me into some direction? Regards Dirk I know I am hitting at the obvious, but I can't be sure you already checked that. Since the applications you are using can be quite intensive in memory usage, did you check whether you are hitting swap or not? -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 4.2.4 fails to build [solved]
Zeerak Waseem zeera...@gmail.com writes: if you're using an intel core2 processor, the proper -march setting is -march=nocona Steffen Loos fe...@gmx.net writes: You can try march=native. Maybe it is a good choice for make.conf too?! Thank you Zeerak Steffen, it is now compiled installed. Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:21:18 -0600 Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:25:16 David Relson wrote: For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw, lspci, and a variety of other utilities and save the results. Good God. I hope you don't do that more than once a decade. Just how long can a life be? Unless he changes hardware while it is shutdown. I don't think the drivers have ever changed on my system since I built it. I have had to add a couple, ethernet card and a SATA card, but other than that, it should be the same. I have to say tho, booting a CD and doing lspci -k or -v is the best way to get the right drivers. That is providing the hardware works when that is done. Dale Changing kernels can have undesired side effects. The log files help to figure out what went wrong.
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 : X11 (?) crashing
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: I decide to leave it as it is for the next days. Afaik I don't need Video ABI on this machine for now. I gave it a try and went back to 1.7.1 ... the first click after login crashed the session. So it seems to be related to xorg-server here. I will do some more tests to filter things out a bit closer. This will maybe allow me to file a meaningful bug. S
Re: [gentoo-user] nfs home directory vs kmail
Mike Diehl writes: BTW, the nfs mounts are done via /etc/init.d/nfs, which does a mount -a nfs. Not here. Are you using baselayout-2 or something? Some while ago, I had problems (not similar to yours) when mounting NFS shares before I had started /etc/init.d/nfs-client, which is called nfsmount now I think. Do you have that one running? What system is your NFS server runnig? Is it also Gentoo, or something else? My NFS once went wonky when I had an old kernel running the server, after an update all problems were gone. Any messages in syslog or dmesg when mounting the share? Wonko
[gentoo-user] Re: Looong delays
On 12/02/2009 01:22 PM, Dirk Uys wrote:
Hi
This has been bothering me for some time now. I have a Dell PC at work,
Intel Core2 Duo with 4gb ram etc. Whenever something does a lot of disk
access, the PC slows down to a halt? I remember some issue between
Firefox and the kernel causing long pauses, but I've had several
different kernel versions running.
[...]
It's a known problem. I have the same issue. But there is a solution:
start disk I/O heavy tasks with ionice -c3. For emerge, this can be
done automatically by putting this in your make.conf:
PORTAGE_IONICE_COMMAND=ionice -c 3 -p \${PID}
ionice is in sys-apps/util-linux so it should be installed already.
[gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
On 12/02/2009 12:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 01 December 2009 18:02:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Everyone should read the following and follow the advice given: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear- of-gnu-patch-2-6 sigh I emerged patch-2.60 when it hit ~amd64 then downgraded it 10 days later when a report on b.g.o. showed it was affecting OOo. Right in the middle of those 10 days, I ran this: emerge -e world /sigh Yep, this bug was a major annoyance for me too. I emerged patch-2.6 on November 15 and since then, being on ~amd64, a *lot* of other packages. After downgrading, I needed to rebuild about 300 packages, including all of KDE4, Qt, Firefox and OpenOffice. Quite amazing how much damage a bug in a small package like this can have on a source-based distro...
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:45:21 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Yep, this bug was a major annoyance for me too. I emerged patch-2.6 on November 15 and since then, being on ~amd64, a *lot* of other packages. After downgrading, I needed to rebuild about 300 packages, including all of KDE4, Qt, Firefox and OpenOffice. KDE 4.3.4 went into ~amd64 today, so that had to be merged anyway (unless you're using kde-testing). I did an emerge -e world on my netbook at the weekend, so that needs a rebuild now :( -- Neil Bothwick Do you steal taglines too? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 12/02/2009 12:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 01 December 2009 18:02:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Everyone should read the following and follow the advice given: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear- of-gnu-patch-2-6 sigh I emerged patch-2.60 when it hit ~amd64 then downgraded it 10 days later when a report on b.g.o. showed it was affecting OOo. Right in the middle of those 10 days, I ran this: emerge -e world /sigh Yep, this bug was a major annoyance for me too. I emerged patch-2.6 on November 15 and since then, being on ~amd64, a *lot* of other packages. After downgrading, I needed to rebuild about 300 packages, including all of KDE4, Qt, Firefox and OpenOffice. Quite amazing how much damage a bug in a small package like this can have on a source-based distro... For which reason I'm quite happy to be running stable except for specific package releases that I put in package.unmask. Patch-2.6 has been ~x86 all along, so I've been running 2.5.9 continuously since March of 2008. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
091202 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 12/02/2009 12:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 01 December 2009 18:02:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Everyone should read the following and follow the advice given: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear-of-gnu-patch-2-6 I emerged patch-2.60 when it hit ~amd64 then downgraded it 10 days later when a report on b.g.o. showed it was affecting OOo. Right in the middle of those 10 days, I ran 'emerge -e world' /sigh Yep, this bug was a major annoyance for me too. I emerged patch-2.6 on November 15 and since then, being on ~amd64, a *lot* of other packages. After downgrading, I needed to rebuild about 300 packages, including all of KDE4, Qt, Firefox and OpenOffice. Quite amazing how much damage a bug in a small package like this can have on a source-based distro... 2 pieces of advice to avoid such problems: (1) never use the 'testing' versions of system pkgs; (2) never run 'emerge world' without the '-p' flag. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Looong delays
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 12:32:20PM +0100, Penguin Lover Jes??s Guerrero squawked: On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:22:38 +0200, Dirk Uys dirkc...@gmail.com wrote: This has been bothering me for some time now. I have a Dell PC at work, Intel Core2 Duo with 4gb ram etc. Whenever something does a lot of disk access, the PC slows down to a halt? The application that is mostly involved when I get these long delays is FireFox, VMWare and emerge (emerge --sync). I know I am hitting at the obvious, but I can't be sure you already checked that. Since the applications you are using can be quite intensive in memory usage, did you check whether you are hitting swap or not? I realize that Firefox is a memory hog, but how many tabs must be open for Swap to hit severely on a machine with 4gb ram? :) Question in general: emerge --sync and VMWare I can see, but why does FireFox require heavy disk access? (Actually, this is an honest question: my work machine had a problem yesterday where everytime I click a link in FireFox the computer freezes for about 30 seconds. Turns out the problem was that someone else's rogue process was hitting the NFS server like crazy so whatever disk-related activity FireFox does after every link click cannot get through. It is somehow worrisome that background IO like writing to the History file can lock up the UI...) W -- When two egotists meet, it's an I for an I. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1090 days, 13:55
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to determine which mobo without opening case
David Relson wrote: On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:21:18 -0600 Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 02 December 2009 01:25:16 David Relson wrote: For grins, whenever I restart my computer I run hwinfo, lshw, lspci, and a variety of other utilities and save the results. Good God. I hope you don't do that more than once a decade. Just how long can a life be? Unless he changes hardware while it is shutdown. I don't think the drivers have ever changed on my system since I built it. I have had to add a couple, ethernet card and a SATA card, but other than that, it should be the same. I have to say tho, booting a CD and doing lspci -k or -v is the best way to get the right drivers. That is providing the hardware works when that is done. Dale Changing kernels can have undesired side effects. The log files help to figure out what went wrong. That's odd. I update my kernel fairly regular. It's always the same drivers for the same old hardware. I don't think the drivers has changed for my hardware since I built this system. My ethernet card used dmfe way back when I bought them and after many many kernel upgrades, it still uses dmfe. Same for the other hardware. I guess your mileage varies a lot. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Looong delays
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 01:22:38PM +0200, Penguin Lover Dirk Uys squawked: This has been bothering me for some time now. I have a Dell PC at work, Intel Core2 Duo with 4gb ram etc. Whenever something does a lot of disk access, the PC slows down to a halt? I remember some issue between Firefox and the kernel causing long pauses, but I've had several different kernel versions running. I also use the ntfs-3g driver for write access to a doze partition, but although the degradation in performance more severe with the ntfs-3g driver, access to the native (ext3) partition also drags the system down for a while. Since you already have decided that the problem is disk activity related, perhaps check hdparm (if applicable)? Do you happen to know what kind of harddisk you are using? From what you described it seems not to be a driver issue. Cheers, W -- Research has led to the discovery of the heaviest element yet known to science. The new element, Governmentium (Gv), has one neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312. These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons. Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert; however, it can be detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact. A tiny amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction normally taking less than a second, to take from four days to four years to complete. Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2-6 years. It does not decay, but undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. In fact, Governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes, not to mention multiple oxymorons. This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a critical concentration. That hypothetical quantity might normally be called 'critical mass' but, in this unique case it is known as 'critical mess'. When catalyzed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium (Am), another just-discovered element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons. ~sm62704 (957197) on /. cid 23224540 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1090 days, 14:03
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Looong delays
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 03:50:30PM +0200, Penguin Lover Nikos Chantziaras
squawked:
On 12/02/2009 01:22 PM, Dirk Uys wrote:
This has been bothering me for some time now. I have a Dell PC at work,
Intel Core2 Duo with 4gb ram etc. Whenever something does a lot of disk
access, the PC slows down to a halt? I remember some issue between
Firefox and the kernel causing long pauses, but I've had several
different kernel versions running.
[...]
It's a known problem. I have the same issue. But there is a solution:
start disk I/O heavy tasks with ionice -c3. For emerge, this can be done
automatically by putting this in your make.conf:
PORTAGE_IONICE_COMMAND=ionice -c 3 -p \${PID}
ionice is in sys-apps/util-linux so it should be installed already.
Hum, I had forgotten about this command. It would have come in handy a
few days ago. But in the case of FireFox, wouldn't that make it worse?
Also, what do you mean by known problem? What sort of set-up causes
the problem? Is this related at all to the hardware used? Or is this
purely in software?
Cheers,
W
--
Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs.
-- Lily Tomlin
Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1090 days, 14:08
Re: [gentoo-user] Looong delays
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:10:30 -0500, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote: On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 12:32:20PM +0100, Penguin Lover Jes??s Guerrero squawked: On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:22:38 +0200, Dirk Uys dirkc...@gmail.com wrote: This has been bothering me for some time now. I have a Dell PC at work, Intel Core2 Duo with 4gb ram etc. Whenever something does a lot of disk access, the PC slows down to a halt? The application that is mostly involved when I get these long delays is FireFox, VMWare and emerge (emerge --sync). I know I am hitting at the obvious, but I can't be sure you already checked that. Since the applications you are using can be quite intensive in memory usage, did you check whether you are hitting swap or not? I realize that Firefox is a memory hog, but how many tabs must be open for Swap to hit severely on a machine with 4gb ram? :) A lot. But even though it's possible to hog that system with firefox alone, I wasn't thinking in that extreme case. I was more thinking along the lines of wmware running a huge vm inside of it and I only meant firefox and emerge as little Satan's helpers :D Question in general: emerge --sync and VMWare I can see, but why does FireFox require heavy disk access? Well, that's why I ask if he's hitting swap. ANY app will require disk access, even if not directly, if the ram is full. I have no idea if that's the case though, I was just pointing at a possibility :) -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 16:48:16 Philip Webb wrote: 091202 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 12/02/2009 12:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 01 December 2009 18:02:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Everyone should read the following and follow the advice given: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-cl ear-of-gnu-patch-2-6 I emerged patch-2.60 when it hit ~amd64 then downgraded it 10 days later when a report on b.g.o. showed it was affecting OOo. Right in the middle of those 10 days, I ran 'emerge -e world' /sigh Yep, this bug was a major annoyance for me too. I emerged patch-2.6 on November 15 and since then, being on ~amd64, a *lot* of other packages. After downgrading, I needed to rebuild about 300 packages, including all of KDE4, Qt, Firefox and OpenOffice. Quite amazing how much damage a bug in a small package like this can have on a source-based distro... 2 pieces of advice to avoid such problems: (1) never use the 'testing' versions of system pkgs; (2) never run 'emerge world' without the '-p' flag. Balls. Neither of those will fix anything and they are not even feasible for this. I run ~amd64 for a reason, I want it that way. There is no known way to run amd64 for @system and ~amd64 for @world and still retain one's sanity. Of course I ran emerge -p. Well actually I run emerge -a but the effect is the same - see what's going to be installed before it's installed. Until a week ago no-one knew the effects patch-2.6.0 would have so when it appears in the list there's no reason to not proceed. Running amd64 isn't an option for me - this isn't one of my critical servers, it's my bleeding edge notebook and I like it the way it is. If I wanted to avoid problems like this I'd be using Ubuntu LTS instead. I'm not whinging about patch. I run ~amd64 precisely to help detect such things. I'm miffed at my own bad luck - the first emerge -e world I've had to do in two years and I just happen to have done it in the two week window about this package. Most folk now have to rebuild 70 - 300 packages, I'm stuck with potentially 1472 sigh -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:30:37 +0200, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Of course I ran emerge -p. Well actually I run emerge -a but the effect is the same - see what's going to be installed before it's installed. Until a week ago no-one knew the effects patch-2.6.0 would have so when it appears in the list there's no reason to not proceed. Yup. If it was known, the package would have been hard masked or not added to portage at all, to start with. -- Jesús Guerrero
[gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection...
I'm still working to get my laptop back up; I have one more thing to try. Presently, I am having a problem with the compiling a 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 kernel that actually works. It might be a processor issue - linux reports it as a Pentium M which is what I have selected during 'make menuconfig', but the the grub keeps reporting that it is not a recognized format or something to that effect, so it won't load it. Questions: 1) I am using the Gentoo 2007.0 LiveCD to boot with, then chroot'ing into my installation to build the kernel. I shouldn't need a newer LiveCD, correct? 2) Grub doesn't need to be re-run (e.g. running the grub prompt and going through the install procedure) after changes to the menu file, correct? TIA, Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
On Mittwoch 02 Dezember 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:45:21 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Yep, this bug was a major annoyance for me too. I emerged patch-2.6 on November 15 and since then, being on ~amd64, a *lot* of other packages. After downgrading, I needed to rebuild about 300 packages, including all of KDE4, Qt, Firefox and OpenOffice. KDE 4.3.4 went into ~amd64 today, so that had to be merged anyway (unless you're using kde-testing). I did an emerge -e world on my netbook at the weekend, so that needs a rebuild now :( and somewhere in between updating kde it downgraded patch.. 404 packages to go (hmm.. interessting number). Thanks for the warning, Nikos.
[gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
On 12/02/2009 04:48 PM, Philip Webb wrote: 091202 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 12/02/2009 12:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 01 December 2009 18:02:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Everyone should read the following and follow the advice given: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear-of-gnu-patch-2-6 I emerged patch-2.60 when it hit ~amd64 then downgraded it 10 days later when a report on b.g.o. showed it was affecting OOo. Right in the middle of those 10 days, I ran 'emerge -e world' /sigh Yep, this bug was a major annoyance for me too. I emerged patch-2.6 on November 15 and since then, being on ~amd64, a *lot* of other packages. After downgrading, I needed to rebuild about 300 packages, including all of KDE4, Qt, Firefox and OpenOffice. Quite amazing how much damage a bug in a small package like this can have on a source-based distro... 2 pieces of advice to avoid such problems: (1) never use the 'testing' versions of system pkgs; (2) never run 'emerge world' without the '-p' flag. (3) Never run a mix of arch and ~arch if you can avoid it :D
[gentoo-user] cmake - need help
Hi,
unfortunately I have no experience with cmake.
The current version of kde-base/step-4.3.4 fails because it cannot find
the eigen2 include directory. (I have created a bug report
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295411
)
Looking at kdeedu-4.3.4/step/CMakeLists.txt
there is
include_directories(${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR} ${EIGEN2_INCLUDE_DIR})
How is this CMakeLists.txt processed (how to debug it).
Many thanks for a pointer,
Helmut.
--
Helmut Jarausch
Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany
[gentoo-user] Re: Looong delays
On 12/02/2009 05:10 PM, Willie Wong wrote: On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 12:32:20PM +0100, Penguin Lover Jes??s Guerrero squawked: On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:22:38 +0200, Dirk Uysdirkc...@gmail.com wrote: This has been bothering me for some time now. I have a Dell PC at work, Intel Core2 Duo with 4gb ram etc. Whenever something does a lot of disk access, the PC slows down to a halt? The application that is mostly involved when I get these long delays is FireFox, VMWare and emerge (emerge --sync). I know I am hitting at the obvious, but I can't be sure you already checked that. Since the applications you are using can be quite intensive in memory usage, did you check whether you are hitting swap or not? I realize that Firefox is a memory hog, but how many tabs must be open for Swap to hit severely on a machine with 4gb ram? :) Question in general: emerge --sync and VMWare I can see, but why does FireFox require heavy disk access? It does not require heavy disk access. It does however do frequent accesses. Due to the kernel problems with simultaneous disk I/O on desktop systems, apps freeze regardless of whether their disk access is heavy or not. The disk I/O code in the Linux kernel is probably written with servers in mind, not desktops, and you need to work around this with ionice, which I wrote about in another post.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:48:16 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: 2 pieces of advice to avoid such problems: (1) never use the 'testing' versions of system pkgs; Then how do they get tested? (2) never run 'emerge world' without the '-p' flag. What difference does this make? It shows an update for which there are no known problems. -- Neil Bothwick Every morning is the dawn of a new error... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Looong delays
On 12/02/2009 05:19 PM, Willie Wong wrote:
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 03:50:30PM +0200, Penguin Lover Nikos Chantziaras
squawked:
On 12/02/2009 01:22 PM, Dirk Uys wrote:
This has been bothering me for some time now. I have a Dell PC at work,
Intel Core2 Duo with 4gb ram etc. Whenever something does a lot of disk
access, the PC slows down to a halt? I remember some issue between
Firefox and the kernel causing long pauses, but I've had several
different kernel versions running.
[...]
It's a known problem. I have the same issue. But there is a solution:
start disk I/O heavy tasks with ionice -c3. For emerge, this can be done
automatically by putting this in your make.conf:
PORTAGE_IONICE_COMMAND=ionice -c 3 -p \${PID}
ionice is in sys-apps/util-linux so it should be installed already.
Hum, I had forgotten about this command. It would have come in handy a
few days ago. But in the case of FireFox, wouldn't that make it worse?
No. If you run other tasks as ionice -c3 they will stop blocking Firefox.
Also, what do you mean by known problem? What sort of set-up causes
the problem? Is this related at all to the hardware used? Or is this
purely in software?
No, it's related to the Linux kernel blocking other applications for too
long when one of them does heavy I/O. This is done so that each task
has a chance to get more work done for the amount of time it gets to do
I/O. As you can imagine, this hurts non-server systems quite badly.
Another solution is to buy more hard disks and set up a RAID.
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection...
2009/12/2 BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com: I'm still working to get my laptop back up; I have one more thing to try. Presently, I am having a problem with the compiling a 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 kernel that actually works. It might be a processor issue - linux reports it as a Pentium M which is what I have selected during 'make menuconfig', but the the grub keeps reporting that it is not a recognized format or something to that effect, so it won't load it. Questions: 1) I am using the Gentoo 2007.0 LiveCD to boot with, then chroot'ing into my installation to build the kernel. I shouldn't need a newer LiveCD, correct? Correct as long as it recognise your hardware. 2) Grub doesn't need to be re-run (e.g. running the grub prompt and going through the install procedure) after changes to the menu file, correct? Correct, assuming you have installed GRUB correctly in the first instance - which makes me ask: What is your exact error message? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 09:48:16AM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: 2 pieces of advice to avoid such problems: (1) never use the 'testing' versions of system pkgs; (2) never run 'emerge world' without the '-p' flag. (0) Never speak on that which you know not. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
Alan McKinnon schrieb: Most folk now have to rebuild 70 - 300 packages, I'm stuck with potentially 1472 sigh I feel with you ... fortunately the cpus should do it on their own, accompanied by some fans ;-) - Any idea how to elegantly split that job into some digestible chunks? The various qlop/genlop/awk/grep/sed-scripts posted so far simply give me the whole list of packages emerged since patch-2.6 and today while they don't care about what I rebuilt already. Seems as if I have to simply manage that to-rebuild-list myself .. Greets, Stefan ps: *maybe* my X11-crashing-issue is somehow related to this as well. I first posted that issue on nov,15th ... on the same day patch-2.6 hit ~amd64 AFAIK ...
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection...
On 12/2/2009 11:26 AM, Mick wrote: 2009/12/2 BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com: I'm still working to get my laptop back up; I have one more thing to try. Presently, I am having a problem with the compiling a 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 kernel that actually works. It might be a processor issue - linux reports it as a Pentium M which is what I have selected during 'make menuconfig', but the the grub keeps reporting that it is not a recognized format or something to that effect, so it won't load it. Questions: 1) I am using the Gentoo 2007.0 LiveCD to boot with, then chroot'ing into my installation to build the kernel. I shouldn't need a newer LiveCD, correct? Correct as long as it recognise your hardware. 2) Grub doesn't need to be re-run (e.g. running the grub prompt and going through the install procedure) after changes to the menu file, correct? Correct, assuming you have installed GRUB correctly in the first instance - which makes me ask: What is your exact error message? I got that error when I copied the wrong kernel image to /boot, make sure you are copying the one detailed in the gentoo handbook (chapter 7, I think). Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection...
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 06:13 -0800, BRM wrote: the the grub keeps reporting that it is not a recognized format or something to that effect, so it won't load it. Please post the exact error message (write it down if need be). Simply saying or something to that effect tends to lead to errors in responses (or something to that effect ;). -a
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: On Mittwoch 18 November 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 18 November 2009 01:16:04 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: Namespaces - you don't need it? Kick 'em out. hmm, interesting ... ;-) for sure I also want to decrapify my kernel-config ... To disable namespaces I would have to set CONFIG_EMBEDDED=y ... correct? This is rather counterintuitive to me, as my main workstation is far from an embedded or small system (ok, not compared to the 4096-cpu-clusters in http://xkcd.com/619/ , but compared to, for example, my embedded ALIX-PC I use as fw/router/something ...). So you suggest I set CONFIG_EMBEDDED=y and in turn get several new options/defaults to choose and get right or wrong ... ? ;-) I am quite sure to have at least *some* crap in my config as I tend to always do something like zcat /proc/config.gz /usr/src/linux-new-shiny-version/.config make oldconfig This gives me expected results and a it boots OK experience, getting rid of unused crap is another issue, yes. I wonder which EMBEDDED options would help me ... Likely none of them. The embedded menu is the most counter-intuitive thing in the whole kernel config. It does not supply a list of things you may enable, instead it activates a menu that allows you to switch stuff OFF that is normally ON. The rationale is that embedded devices need to get by on a very slim kernel and with some magic trickery they can successfully disable some features that are usually considered perfectly normal for regular desktop use. For example: CONFIG_HOTPLUG. It's unthinkable to remove this for a desktop, but does your TomTom need it? Does a GPS even have hotplug facilities? How about ADSL router/modems? To disable namespace, enable embedded, leave everything on, and you will find you can now disable namespaces. you can disable: - Enable 16-bit UID system calls - Sysctl syscall support without negative impact on a desktop. Most of it is broken for years anyway. - Core dumps are another feature that most people never use - Load all symbols for debugging/ksymoops and - Do an extra kallsyms pass stuff you can deactivate if you don't plan to send crash reports. - Enable PC-Speaker support oh hell - away with that one! Who needs beeps anyway? whoops. I hadn't looked back at that thread for weeks, only found it now. Thanks for your replies
Re: [gentoo-user] how to know which driver a device is using?
On 12/1/2009 7:59 PM, Xi Shen wrote: Hi, when i start my system from gentoo live dvd, all my hardware works fine. but if i want to have a small system, so i removed many drivers when i am compiling my own system. the result is some times, i do not know which driver should i choose for my hardware, and my hardware cannot use when i boot from my new system. i wonder if there is a way to see which driver is loaded for my hardware. this should help me choose the drivers when compiling my system. I believe lspci -k is the best choice in your case, it is the cleanest and most direct option, and will tell you what hardware is using what driver. Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Looong delays
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 06:24:49PM +0200, Penguin Lover Nikos Chantziaras squawked: Hum, I had forgotten about this command. It would have come in handy a few days ago. But in the case of FireFox, wouldn't that make it worse? No. If you run other tasks as ionice -c3 they will stop blocking Firefox. I see. I guess it would not have helped in my case as it was, since the problem was due to another user's process blocking the IO, and I am not root on my work machine. Also, what do you mean by known problem? What sort of set-up causes the problem? Is this related at all to the hardware used? Or is this purely in software? No, it's related to the Linux kernel blocking other applications for too long when one of them does heavy I/O. This is done so that each task has a chance to get more work done for the amount of time it gets to do I/O. As you can imagine, this hurts non-server systems quite badly. Ah, so ionice -c 3 is to be used for the other (dare I say non-interactive?) processes. Thanks for the explanation. Cheers, W -- A young woman was jogging when she saw a wizened old man, smiling at her from his porch. You look so happy! she said to him. What's your secret for a long satisfying life? Well, I smoke three packs of cigarettes every day and I drink a case of wisky every week. on top of that I never excersice, and I eat lots of fatty foods. That's amazing, the woman said. And how old are you? He answered, thirty two. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1090 days, 18:04
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 19:59:35 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Alan McKinnon schrieb: Most folk now have to rebuild 70 - 300 packages, I'm stuck with potentially 1472 sigh I feel with you ... fortunately the cpus should do it on their own, accompanied by some fans ;-) - Any idea how to elegantly split that job into some digestible chunks? The various qlop/genlop/awk/grep/sed-scripts posted so far simply give me the whole list of packages emerged since patch-2.6 and today while they don't care about what I rebuilt already. flameeyes is the fellow making all the fuss about this. On his blog http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/01/gentoo-service-announcement-keep-clear-of- gnu-patch-2-6 he gives a way to build a decent list that removes packages re-emerged since patch was downgraded again. The trouble with a bug like this is that it gets used everywhere and affects very basic packages which are then used by other packages (that may or may not have been patched meanwhile) potentially affecting their behaviour too. The effects are complex and never fully determined. Consider this: rebuilding world on a modern desktop will take around 24 to 36 hours. You could spend more time than that figuring out how to build a full list :-) Seems as if I have to simply manage that to-rebuild-list myself .. Greets, Stefan ps: *maybe* my X11-crashing-issue is somehow related to this as well. I first posted that issue on nov,15th ... on the same day patch-2.6 hit ~amd64 AFAIK ... It's certainly possible, the times certainly coincide. And you do have symptoms that no-one else is having (sorta the kind of thing you'd expect from a patch that should have been applied and wasn't). It's worth downgrading patch and rebuilding X even if only to see what happens -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Looong delays
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Dirk Uys dirkc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi This has been bothering me for some time now. I have a Dell PC at work, Intel Core2 Duo with 4gb ram etc. Whenever something does a lot of disk access, the PC slows down to a halt? I remember some issue between Firefox and the kernel causing long pauses, but I've had several different kernel versions running. I also use the ntfs-3g driver for write access to a doze partition, but although the degradation in performance more severe with the ntfs-3g driver, access to the native (ext3) partition also drags the system down for a while. I checked obvious things like whether or not I enable SMP in the kernel. I tried changing the kernel pre-emption from low latency desktop to desktop, but the problem persist. The application that is mostly involved when I get these long delays is FireFox, VMWare and emerge (emerge --sync). Everything is compiled 64bit but I have the 32bit emulation libs. Can anyone point me into some direction? A tool I've always found useful for determining IO hog processes is sys-process/iotop HTH- James
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection...
- Original Message From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com 2009/12/2 BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com: I'm still working to get my laptop back up; I have one more thing to try. Presently, I am having a problem with the compiling a 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 kernel that actually works. It might be a processor issue - linux reports it as a Pentium M which is what I have selected during 'make menuconfig', but the the grub keeps reporting that it is not a recognized format or something to that effect, so it won't load it. Questions: 1) I am using the Gentoo 2007.0 LiveCD to boot with, then chroot'ing into my installation to build the kernel. I shouldn't need a newer LiveCD, correct? Correct as long as it recognise your hardware. Thanks. 2) Grub doesn't need to be re-run (e.g. running the grub prompt and going through the install procedure) after changes to the menu file, correct? Correct, assuming you have installed GRUB correctly in the first instance Thanks - which makes me ask: What is your exact error message? I'll post that tonight. - Original Message From: Marcus Wanner marc...@cox.net I got that error when I copied the wrong kernel image to /boot, make sure you are copying the one detailed in the gentoo handbook (chapter 7, I think). The last kernel I copied in I copied the file specified by the kernel's README: arch/arch/boot/bzImage - arch being x86. Though according to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-config.xml it should be arch/i386/boot/bzImage...not sure which is right off hand. Will check into it tonight. Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: Seems as if I have to simply manage that to-rebuild-list myself .. my rebuild-list crashed at kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi, interesting on a gnome-system ... k3b depends on kdelibs and I have useflag avahi for that, hmmm ... I removed it from my list and emerge the rest, I will look at that kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi-topic later ...
[gentoo-user] Re: OT: threads in thunderbird (WAS:decrapify your kernel config)
Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: whoops. I hadn't looked back at that thread for weeks, only found it now. Does anyone know of a helpful addon for thunderbird which allows to simply follow threads on mailinglists? I always think of the possibility to somehow bookmark a thread and to be able to quickcheck all these threads for replies, without the need of scrolling through miles of other postings (yep, I already sort mails into folders and use the threaded view). Maybe someone knows more than me (many do ...) Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decrapify your kernel config
Alan McKinnon schrieb: To disable namespace, enable embedded, leave everything on, and you will find you can now disable namespaces. did that, as well as the other suggestions by Volker, recompiled kernel sits there and waits until I re-emerged stuff related to that patch-2.6-issue ;-) Thanks. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection...
BRM wrote: - Original Message From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com 2009/12/2 BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com: I'm still working to get my laptop back up; I have one more thing to try. Presently, I am having a problem with the compiling a 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 kernel that actually works. It might be a processor issue - linux reports it as a Pentium M which is what I have selected during 'make menuconfig', but the the grub keeps reporting that it is not a recognized format or something to that effect, so it won't load it. Questions: 1) I am using the Gentoo 2007.0 LiveCD to boot with, then chroot'ing into my installation to build the kernel. I shouldn't need a newer LiveCD, correct? Correct as long as it recognise your hardware. Thanks. 2) Grub doesn't need to be re-run (e.g. running the grub prompt and going through the install procedure) after changes to the menu file, correct? Correct, assuming you have installed GRUB correctly in the first instance Thanks - which makes me ask: What is your exact error message? I'll post that tonight. - Original Message From: Marcus Wanner marc...@cox.net I got that error when I copied the wrong kernel image to /boot, make sure you are copying the one detailed in the gentoo handbook (chapter 7, I think). The last kernel I copied in I copied the file specified by the kernel's README: arch/arch/boot/bzImage - arch being x86. Though according to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-config.xml it should be arch/i386/boot/bzImage...not sure which is right off hand. Will check into it tonight. Ben This may not be the problem but I ran into this a while back. Some times when I build a kernel, the bzImage in */i386/boot is actually a link, not the bzImage itself. Naturally copying a link will not boot, especially if it breaks the link or /usr is on a separate partition and not mounted yet. I ran into this twice with two different kernels. I can't recall the version tho. You may want to check that before you copy the bzImage over, just to make sure it is a file and not a link. Oh, don't forget to mount /boot too. Very common thing to forget. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Once again the emerge @preserved-rebuild loop
Hi all, This came up maybe a month ago on some of my machines. Now I'm updating the MythTV network of 3 dedicated machines and I'm seeing the same thing. The machines are clean with emerge -DuN @world but stuck in what appears to be an endless loop of @preserved-rebuild's. I've been through the loop 3 times with no changes any time. Before I do what I did last time (which was just erase the preserved_libs_registry file by hand) I figured I'd see what a better way to handle this is. Last time I think Neil suggested that multiple passes through emerge @preserved-rebuild would eliminate this but I've done 3 passes so far and it appears stuck. Possibly I should emerge -C e2fsprogs-libs and then do another emerge -DuN @world? Other ideas? Same exact results on 3 machines... Thanks, Mark !!! existing preserved libs: package: sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.9 * - /lib/libblkid.so * used by /bin/mount (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by /bin/umount (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by /sbin/blkid (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by 10 other files * - /lib/libuuid.so * used by /bin/mount (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by /bin/umount (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by /sbin/blkid (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by 20 other files Use emerge @preserved-rebuild to rebuild packages using these libraries myth12 ~ # emerge -p @preserved-rebuild These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1 [ebuild R ] sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.0.6-r2 [ebuild R ] sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.9 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/libSM-1.1.1 [ebuild R ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/libXt-1.0.6 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/libXpm-3.5.7 [ebuild R ] sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/libXaw-1.0.6 [ebuild R ] x11-apps/xdm-1.1.8 myth12 ~ # and then * Regenerating GNU info directory index... * Processed 90 info files. !!! existing preserved libs: package: sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.9 * - /lib/libblkid.so * used by /bin/mount (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by /bin/umount (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by /sbin/blkid (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by 10 other files * - /lib/libuuid.so * used by /bin/mount (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by /bin/umount (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by /sbin/blkid (sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1) * used by 20 other files Use emerge @preserved-rebuild to rebuild packages using these libraries myth12 ~ # emerge -p @preserved-rebuild These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1 [ebuild R ] sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.0.6-r2 [ebuild R ] sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.9 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/libSM-1.1.1 [ebuild R ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/libXt-1.0.6 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/libXpm-3.5.7 [ebuild R ] sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1 [ebuild R ] x11-libs/libXaw-1.0.6 [ebuild R ] x11-apps/xdm-1.1.8 myth12 ~ #
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: threads in thunderbird (WAS:decrapify your kernel config)
Nope, but if there isn't a particular reason for using thunderbird (ie. some function unlikely to be found in other clients). But opera webbrowser comes with an email client built into it, and if you use a panel view, well you'll get a nice little tree called mailing lists :-) So if switching browser is an option, then there's a cause :-) Zeerak On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:01:09 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Stefan G. Weichinger schrieb: whoops. I hadn't looked back at that thread for weeks, only found it now. Does anyone know of a helpful addon for thunderbird which allows to simply follow threads on mailinglists? I always think of the possibility to somehow bookmark a thread and to be able to quickcheck all these threads for replies, without the need of scrolling through miles of other postings (yep, I already sort mails into folders and use the threaded view). Maybe someone knows more than me (many do ...) Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: threads in thunderbird (WAS:decrapify your kernel config)
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:01:09 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Does anyone know of a helpful addon for thunderbird which allows to simply follow threads on mailinglists? I always think of the possibility to somehow bookmark a thread and to be able to quickcheck all these threads for replies, without the need of scrolling through miles of other postings (yep, I already sort mails into folders and use the threaded view). Can't you set Thunderbird to hide read messages? -- Neil Bothwick When you said you wanted to live in sin, I didn't know you meant sloth signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] cmake - need help
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Hi,
unfortunately I have no experience with cmake.
The current version of kde-base/step-4.3.4 fails because it cannot find
the eigen2 include directory. (I have created a bug report
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295411
)
Looking at kdeedu-4.3.4/step/CMakeLists.txt
there is
include_directories(${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR} ${EIGEN2_INCLUDE_DIR})
How is this CMakeLists.txt processed (how to debug it).
Many thanks for a pointer,
Helmut.
There is an eigen use flag.
Perhaps you need that?
[gentoo-user] Valve Steam on gentoo
For some reason Steam fails to start any games on my gentoo box. I am using wine 1.1.32 with the engine itself and the games all downloaded to gentoo's partition (not the ntfs3g problem). Steam itself loads fine, but when I click launch the game nothing happens. This is very said because Steam is the only reason why I still have to deal with Windows :( Any ideas?
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection... (solved)
- Original Message From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com On Wednesday 02 December 2009 20:52:35 BRM wrote: - Original Message From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com 2009/12/2 BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com: - which makes me ask: What is your exact error message? I'll post that tonight. Exact error message was: ERROR 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format Well, I mounted the drive again - and didn't go into the chroot shell. I had been doing all the copying from within the chroot before. I found the arch/i386/boot/bzImage, which does just point to arch/x86/boot/bzImage. I had copied arch/x86/boot/bzImage but for whatever reason the md5 hashes of the image and what I had copied didn't match. So I copied it, rebooted, and viola it worked. Odd...not sure what was up with it; but it's working. Now to update the environment. - Original Message From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com Oh, don't forget to mount /boot too. Very common thing to for True; however I don't setup /boot that way unless I absolutely have to - namely for older systems that couldn't access the whole hard drive until after the kernel was loaded, or some other explicit reason. I haven't had a system like that in a long time. And it wasn't needed on this system. Thanks! Ben
[gentoo-user] Wireless...
I have wireless working (b43legacy driver for the Dell Wireless Broadcom) through a static configuration in /etc/conf.d/net - basically: essid_wlan0=myWLAN key_MYWLAN=somekey config_MYWLAN=( dhcp ) preferred_APS= ( myWLAN ) I would like to use a tool like WPA Supplicant instead so I can have a more dynamic configuration. I've tried to setup WPA supplicant but haven't been able to get it to work. My last attempt was with: modules=( wpa_supplicant ) wpa_supplicant_wlan0=-Dwext wpa_timeout_wlan0=15 I also tried the iwconfig setup: modules=( iwconfig ) iwconfig_wlan0=mode managed wpa_timeout_wlan0=15 Both these were based on configurations I found while researching gentoo wireless configurations: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Wireless_Networking the wpa_supplicant man page possibly suggests uses -Dbroadcom, but the following supports -Dwext since I have the b43legacy driver working (firmware extracted using b43-fwcutter a while back; dmesg reports version 0x127). http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 I have both the iwconfig utilities and wpa supplicant installed. When I used wpa supplicant with either configuration it would just keep searching. Now, my wireless configuration is currently WEP; and I'd like to upgrade to WPA/WPA2 once I can get a wireless tool on the system as well. Is there anything I'm doing wrong with the configuration above? Also - what is the correct GUI for configuring connections under KDE4? I know of the WPA Supplicant GUI; and the GNOME GUI; but would like something under more directly KDE4. KNemo just puts up monitors that are pretty useless (though look pretty). TIA, Ben P.S. It seems my Linksys WRT54G v3 needs a firmware update for WPA2. So right now, I'd just like to be able to configure dynamically for my WEP network; then I'll focus on going to WPA/WPA2.
[gentoo-user] Re: Once again the emerge @preserved-rebuild loop
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, This came up maybe a month ago on some of my machines. Now I'm updating the MythTV network of 3 dedicated machines and I'm seeing the same thing. The machines are clean with emerge -DuN @world but stuck in what appears to be an endless loop of @preserved-rebuild's. I've been through the loop 3 times with no changes any time. Before I do what I did last time (which was just erase the preserved_libs_registry file by hand) I figured I'd see what a better way to handle this is. Last time I think Neil suggested that multiple passes through emerge @preserved-rebuild would eliminate this but I've done 3 passes so far and it appears stuck. Possibly I should emerge -C e2fsprogs-libs and then do another emerge -DuN @world? Other ideas? Same exact results on 3 machines... Thanks, Mark No quick answers from the list so I tried: emerge -C e2fsprogs-libs emerge -DuN @world? revdep-rebuild -i and now the preserved-rebuild info is gone. myth12 ~ # emerge -p @preserved-rebuild emerge: 'preserved-rebuild' is an empty set emerge: no targets left after set expansion myth12 ~ # So I guess it's fixed. Right? Right... Over and out, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless...
This is my etc/conf.d/net file: modules=( wpa_supplicant ) wpa_supplicant_wlan0=-Dwext preferred_aps=(ESSID1 ESSID2) essid_wlan0=any All specific stuff is in /wpa_supplicant/supplicant.conf Zeerak On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:17:15 +0100, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: I have wireless working (b43legacy driver for the Dell Wireless Broadcom) through a static configuration in /etc/conf.d/net - basically: essid_wlan0=myWLAN key_MYWLAN=somekey config_MYWLAN=( dhcp ) preferred_APS= ( myWLAN ) I would like to use a tool like WPA Supplicant instead so I can have a more dynamic configuration. I've tried to setup WPA supplicant but haven't been able to get it to work. My last attempt was with: modules=( wpa_supplicant ) wpa_supplicant_wlan0=-Dwext wpa_timeout_wlan0=15 I also tried the iwconfig setup: modules=( iwconfig ) iwconfig_wlan0=mode managed wpa_timeout_wlan0=15 Both these were based on configurations I found while researching gentoo wireless configurations: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Wireless_Networking the wpa_supplicant man page possibly suggests uses -Dbroadcom, but the following supports -Dwext since I have the b43legacy driver working (firmware extracted using b43-fwcutter a while back; dmesg reports version 0x127). http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 I have both the iwconfig utilities and wpa supplicant installed. When I used wpa supplicant with either configuration it would just keep searching. Now, my wireless configuration is currently WEP; and I'd like to upgrade to WPA/WPA2 once I can get a wireless tool on the system as well. Is there anything I'm doing wrong with the configuration above? Also - what is the correct GUI for configuring connections under KDE4? I know of the WPA Supplicant GUI; and the GNOME GUI; but would like something under more directly KDE4. KNemo just puts up monitors that are pretty useless (though look pretty). TIA, Ben P.S. It seems my Linksys WRT54G v3 needs a firmware update for WPA2. So right now, I'd just like to be able to configure dynamically for my WEP network; then I'll focus on going to WPA/WPA2. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless...
KDE 4 doesn't have an official network manager yet. you can use net-misc/wicd, it works nice. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:17 AM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: I have wireless working (b43legacy driver for the Dell Wireless Broadcom) through a static configuration in /etc/conf.d/net - basically: essid_wlan0=myWLAN key_MYWLAN=somekey config_MYWLAN=( dhcp ) preferred_APS= ( myWLAN ) I would like to use a tool like WPA Supplicant instead so I can have a more dynamic configuration. I've tried to setup WPA supplicant but haven't been able to get it to work. My last attempt was with: modules=( wpa_supplicant ) wpa_supplicant_wlan0=-Dwext wpa_timeout_wlan0=15 I also tried the iwconfig setup: modules=( iwconfig ) iwconfig_wlan0=mode managed wpa_timeout_wlan0=15 Both these were based on configurations I found while researching gentoo wireless configurations: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Wireless_Networking the wpa_supplicant man page possibly suggests uses -Dbroadcom, but the following supports -Dwext since I have the b43legacy driver working (firmware extracted using b43-fwcutter a while back; dmesg reports version 0x127). http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 I have both the iwconfig utilities and wpa supplicant installed. When I used wpa supplicant with either configuration it would just keep searching. Now, my wireless configuration is currently WEP; and I'd like to upgrade to WPA/WPA2 once I can get a wireless tool on the system as well. Is there anything I'm doing wrong with the configuration above? Also - what is the correct GUI for configuring connections under KDE4? I know of the WPA Supplicant GUI; and the GNOME GUI; but would like something under more directly KDE4. KNemo just puts up monitors that are pretty useless (though look pretty). TIA, Ben P.S. It seems my Linksys WRT54G v3 needs a firmware update for WPA2. So right now, I'd just like to be able to configure dynamically for my WEP network; then I'll focus on going to WPA/WPA2. -- Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1] Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil
Re: [gentoo-user] Valve Steam on gentoo
=== On Thu, 12/03, Kirill Lipatov wrote: === Any ideas? === There are many, many Windows applications that don't run under Wine. Especially games. That's probably one of them. Even if they do, they usually run only with certain video cards. Usually Nvidia. -- Keith Dart -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public key: ID: 19017044 http://www.dartworks.biz/ =
