Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with script calling OOCalc on amd64

2010-03-17 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 16 March 2010 07:40:04 Amit Dor-Shifer wrote:
 What does
 
 xterm -fg green -bg black -e 'gpg Personal/data.ods.gpg;echo $?' tell you?

It doesn't return anything on the terminal I launch it from, but decrypts the 
file in an xterm and then closes it (the xterm).  So the gpg part works fine.

  I'm thinking that gpg fails, so oocalc never launches (because you
  conditioned its execution with '', and the script continues to shred the
  file.

The gpg part does not fail, because when I run:

xterm -fg green -bg black -e 'gpg Personal/data.ods.gpg  oocalc \
Personal/data.ods'

An xterm opens up asks for a passwd to decrypt the file, decrypts it and 
launches OOo.  However, the xterm dies immediately after that.

On my x86 machine, the xterm stays open until I close OOo.  This is how it 
should work; i.e. the xterm should continue to run as long as any processes 
within it are still running.

This makes me think that it may be some env or profile difference ...?  What 
would control this behaviour in an xterm?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Udev error and how to fix it.

2010-03-17 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:17:58AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 March 2010 17:33:13 Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote:
 
  usually always look to see if ...
 
 Sorry, but I'm having terrible trouble parsing this expression.
 
 -- 
 Rgds
 Peter.
 

Haha, no wonder. In the initial reply I had written that I left my brain 
somewhere. I think that illustrates it quite well :P

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Strategy for using SAN/NAS for storage with Gentoo...

2010-03-17 Thread Steve

Keith Dart wrote:

I recommend setting up your server hardware on a decent mini-PC with
server grade disks and installing openfiler. The openfiler uses XFS for
local storage and exports NFS and CIFS (and iSCSI if you want that). 


http://www.openfiler.com/

It is based on rpath linux and uses a different package management
system than you may be used to. But it's relatively easy to configure
and maintain.


Both Openfiler and FreeNas look promising from a software perspective.  
Conversely, I'm drawing a bit of a blank trying to find suitable 
hardware to run that software on.  Given that all I need is iSCSI to 
SATA and back... for 1 drive at 100Mbps everything I can find seems 
massive overkill.


I've been toying with the idea of abandoning being able to fire-up a 
vmware image to stand in for my server... and shifting to accessing raid 
storage over USB.  It seems a lot less elegant - but it does eliminate 
the need for hardware to run multiple kernels...  When I thought 'iscsi' 
- I'd hoped that I'd find a cheap external drive that supported it 
out-of-the-box for a pittance more than a bare drive.  Was I was being 
hugely overly optimistic?






Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/init.d/net.ra0 is not bringing up the interface?

2010-03-17 Thread Tony Miller
Well it was working, then I wanted to add this to my /etc/conf.d/net:

essid_ra0=( my essid )

Now the same problem is happening again, any advice?

Nothing else in my /etc/conf.d/net except for this:

sleep_scan_ra0=5
config_ra0=( dhcp )


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Tony Miller mcfiredr...@gmail.com wrote:

 That was just it! Thank you so much.


 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Friday 12 March 2010 06:12:55 Tony Miller wrote:
  I have added /etc/init.d/net.ra0 (my wireless interface is called ra0
  instead of wlan0) to the default runlevel. It starts the script at boot,
   but it acts like the device has not been brought up(i.e. with ifconfig
 ra0
   up). For instance the boot log will say:
 
  * Starting ra0
  *  Configuring wireless network for ra0
  Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) :
  SET failed on device ra0; Network is down
  Error for wireless request Set encode (8B2A) :
  SET failed on device ra0; Network is down
  Error for wireless request Set essid (8B1A) :
  SET failed on device ra0; Network is down
 
  And so on and so on for all the different settings, until it finally
 gives
  up.
 
  I can do ifconfig ra0 up, iwconfig ra0 essid any, dhcpcd ra0 and connect
 to
  the network just fine! Of course I would like it to start at boot
 however.
 
  Any ideas? The init script is broken? The actual init script is very
  complicated, and even if it were easy to just add ifconfig ra0 up
  somewhere to it, I'm not sure if that's the best solution.

 Look at /etc/conf.d/wireless.example to see how you are meant to configure
 /etc/conf.d/net to manage your wireless card either using iwconfig, or
 using
 wpa_supplicant.  You probably need something like:

 sleep_scan_ra0=3 #where 3 is three seconds

 HTH.
 --
 Regards,
 Mick





Re: [gentoo-user] what's wrong with rsync 3.0.6?

2010-03-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:50:42 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:

 It is? In that case I don't know how I've managed with Linux since 1993 
 without it.

That's what everyone who hasn't used screen says, I said the same.

There are those that use screen and those that haven't tried it, I've yet
to meet anyone who has tried it and doesn't use it.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Biology is the only science in which multiplication means the same thing
as division.


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Re: [gentoo-user] what's wrong with rsync 3.0.6?

2010-03-17 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:50:42 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:

   

It is? In that case I don't know how I've managed with Linux since 1993
without it.
 

That's what everyone who hasn't used screen says, I said the same.

There are those that use screen and those that haven't tried it, I've yet
to meet anyone who has tried it and doesn't use it.

   


+1 on that.  Using screen is really handy when in single user mode.  It 
also comes in handy when doing updates in a Konsole and you need to log 
out of KDE.  Just exit the screen session, log out, log back in and 
reattach the screen session.  Nothing lost, it never even stops the 
compile.  This is really handy if OOo is in progress.


You really need to check out screen Peter.  I'd be glad to help with the 
basics of it.  I mostly now how to start a new session, detach, reattach 
and such.  Nothing fancy but enough to use it.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with script calling OOCalc on amd64

2010-03-17 Thread Amit Dor-Shifer

ok. I didn't realize that oocalc actually executed in your first attempt.
Out of ideas then.

FWIW - a few guesses: I'd execute oocalc under strace, and try to find 
what is killing oocalc (does it decide to exit, or is it sent some 
signal). If your suspecting xterm to be the culprit (i.e., yr script 
works-as-expected w/o the xterm wrap) then maybe it'll be worthwhile 
looking into the X resources yr xterm is reading.

HTH
Amit

Mick wrote:

On Tuesday 16 March 2010 07:40:04 Amit Dor-Shifer wrote:
  

What does

xterm -fg green -bg black -e 'gpg Personal/data.ods.gpg;echo $?' tell you?



It doesn't return anything on the terminal I launch it from, but decrypts the 
file in an xterm and then closes it (the xterm).  So the gpg part works fine.


  

 I'm thinking that gpg fails, so oocalc never launches (because you
 conditioned its execution with '', and the script continues to shred the
 file.



The gpg part does not fail, because when I run:

xterm -fg green -bg black -e 'gpg Personal/data.ods.gpg  oocalc \
Personal/data.ods'

An xterm opens up asks for a passwd to decrypt the file, decrypts it and 
launches OOo.  However, the xterm dies immediately after that.


On my x86 machine, the xterm stays open until I close OOo.  This is how it 
should work; i.e. the xterm should continue to run as long as any processes 
within it are still running.


This makes me think that it may be some env or profile difference ...?  What 
would control this behaviour in an xterm?
  




Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 04:06:56AM -0500, Dale wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the 
 old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the 
 browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was 
 in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.  
 Does someone here recall exactly where this setting is by any chance?  I 
 found one in about:config but I'm sort of chicken to change it not being 
 sure it is it.
 
 Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can 
 someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)
 

You are html free :-)

-- 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the 
old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the 
browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was 
in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.

Check the desired option.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100317.png (12 KB)

Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can 
someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.

It's OK. You could see yourself by using Ctrl+U. ;)

Hartmut




Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng filtering

2010-03-17 Thread Fred Leon

Ralph Slooten axll...@gmail.com a écrit :


On 17 March 2010 13:00, Roy Wright r...@wright.org wrote:


I just started with the example at:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Syslog-ng

HTH,
Roy


Thanks Roy, however they have the same syntax which isn't working on my
side.

filter f_shorewall { not match(regex value(Shorewall)); }


I just tried a single rule (to make sure it wasn't my syntax):

filter killVmMessages {
not match(regex value(vmware-checker));
};

yet the (root) CMD (/root/bin/vmware-checker) messages still go through?!

log {
source(src);
source(remote);
filter(myfilter);
filter(killVmMessages);
destination(d_mysql);
};

I'm really stumped here. All other filters (non regex) works fine though,
such as facility()  host().

Are you able to filter by content?

Ralph



Perhaps you could try this which is working for me and let me filter  
all messages coming from iptables:


# firewall logging
destination iptables { file(/var/log/firewall/iptables.log); };
filter f_iptables { message(iptables); };
log { source(s_all); filter(f_iptables); destination(iptables); };

# all messages coming from kern
destination df_kern { file(/var/log/system/kern.log ); };
filter f_kern { facility(kern) and not filter(f_iptables); };
log { source(s_all); filter(f_kern);destination(df_kern); };

Fred

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[gentoo-user] Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread Dale

Hi,

I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the 
old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the 
browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was 
in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.  
Does someone here recall exactly where this setting is by any chance?  I 
found one in about:config but I'm sort of chicken to change it not being 
sure it is it.


Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can 
someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.


Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread Dale

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Dale:

   

I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the
old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the
browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was
in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.
 

Check the desired option.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100317.png (12 KB)

   

Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can
someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.
 

It's OK. You could see yourself by using Ctrl+U. ;)

Hartmut

   


Thanks for the link.  I looked everywhere else but there.  I was 
thinking that only themes, fonts and such was in there.  lol


I have sent messages to the list before with it set to plain text but it 
still have html when the list got it.  So, since I am starting over 
basically with this setup, I wanted to make sure it was not only sent 
plain text but received that way as well.  Now if gmail would just send 
me a copy of my message, then I would know for sure.


Thanks for help on both of these.  I'm back in action again and didn't 
lose any info.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread stosss
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hartmut Figge wrote:

 Dale:



 I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the
 old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the
 browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was
 in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.


 Check the desired option.
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100317.png (12 KB)



 Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can
 someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.


 It's OK. You could see yourself by using Ctrl+U. ;)

 Hartmut



 Thanks for the link.  I looked everywhere else but there.  I was thinking
 that only themes, fonts and such was in there.  lol

 I have sent messages to the list before with it set to plain text but it
 still have html when the list got it.  So, since I am starting over
 basically with this setup, I wanted to make sure it was not only sent plain
 text but received that way as well.  Now if gmail would just send me a copy
 of my message, then I would know for sure.

 Thanks for help on both of these.  I'm back in action again and didn't lose
 any info.

You have to set that up in gmail settings.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread Dale

stosss wrote:

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

Hartmut Figge wrote:
 

Dale:


   

I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the
old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the
browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was
in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.

 

Check the desired option.
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100317.png (12 KB)


   

Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can
someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.

 

It's OK. You could see yourself by using Ctrl+U. ;)

Hartmut


   

Thanks for the link.  I looked everywhere else but there.  I was thinking
that only themes, fonts and such was in there.  lol

I have sent messages to the list before with it set to plain text but it
still have html when the list got it.  So, since I am starting over
basically with this setup, I wanted to make sure it was not only sent plain
text but received that way as well.  Now if gmail would just send me a copy
of my message, then I would know for sure.

Thanks for help on both of these.  I'm back in action again and didn't lose
any info.
 

You have to set that up in gmail settings.

   


I think I have it set up on the gmail server to do whatever Seamonkey 
says.  Then I have to set up Seamonkey to send text only to gentoo.org 
and kde.org .  Those are the two mailing lists I regularly reply to.  I 
only want plain text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I 
send pics and other things to other folks.


I assume that is what you are talking about.  I have not been able to 
get gmail to send me a copy.  I know the mailing list software sends a 
copy back but gmail won't let me get it over pop access.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] what's wrong with rsync 3.0.6?

2010-03-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 17 March 2010 08:46:36 Dale wrote:

 You really need to check out screen Peter.  I'd be glad to help with
 the basics of it.

That's a generous offer, Dale. I may take you up on it...

-- 
Rgds
Peter.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread stosss
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 stosss wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote:


 Hartmut Figge wrote:


 Dale:




 I just gave Seamonkey a fresh start.  Now I have a question.  I had the
 old set up so that when I opened Seamonkey, it would start both the
 browser and email.  Now it only starts the browser.  I remember it was
 in the preferences somewhere but I can't find it for the life of me.



 Check the desired option.
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm100317.png (12 KB)




 Also, I'm hoping this page will arrive and not be blank.  Also, can
 someone confirm this is TEXT ONLY with no HTML stuff.



 It's OK. You could see yourself by using Ctrl+U. ;)

 Hartmut




 Thanks for the link.  I looked everywhere else but there.  I was thinking
 that only themes, fonts and such was in there.  lol

 I have sent messages to the list before with it set to plain text but it
 still have html when the list got it.  So, since I am starting over
 basically with this setup, I wanted to make sure it was not only sent
 plain
 text but received that way as well.  Now if gmail would just send me a
 copy
 of my message, then I would know for sure.

 Thanks for help on both of these.  I'm back in action again and didn't
 lose
 any info.


 You have to set that up in gmail settings.



 I think I have it set up on the gmail server to do whatever Seamonkey says.
  Then I have to set up Seamonkey to send text only to gentoo.org and kde.org
 .  Those are the two mailing lists I regularly reply to.  I only want plain
 text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I send pics and other
 things to other folks.

 I assume that is what you are talking about.  I have not been able to get
 gmail to send me a copy.  I know the mailing list software sends a copy back
 but gmail won't let me get it over pop access.

sorry, I was talking about setting gmail to send you a copy of your email.



Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng filtering

2010-03-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 17 March 2010 01:22:59 Ralph Slooten wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Has anyone here worked out how to filter out syslog messages using
 syslog-ng v3? The old syntax doesn't work (well complains bitterly about
 performance and says to use regex), and no matter what I try I cannot get
 the new syntax to work :-/ I have a syslog-ng server which logs to MySQL
 for multiple clients in a network, however the database just keeps growing
 with irrelevant data I'd prefer to just quietly ignore on the server side.
 
 I'm trying to filter out (exclude) messages such as:
   (root) CMD (/root/bin/vmware-checker)
 and
   (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons  /usr/sbin/run-crons )
 
 ==
 filter myfilter {
 not match(regex value(\/usr\/sbin\/run-crons))
 and not match(regex value(vmware-checker));
 }

Hah! this caught me out too.

The value of value cannot be anything arbitrary - syslog-ng has no clue what 
you mean. The value is a field name, either a pre-defined one, or something 
you defined using a parser. The docs are ambiguous on this, it's not clear 
that the supplied values are abstracts. You are truing to search for the 
string regex in a field called /usr/bin/vmware-checker.

Which obviously will not work.

I think you want:

match(\/usr\/sbin\/run-crons value MESSAGE)

Note that it is MESSAGE. You want the field name, not it's dereferenced value.



 log {
 source(src);
 source(remote);
 filter(myfilter);
 destination(d_mysql);
 };
 ===
 
 However they just keep coming through the filter (ie: not matching the not
 match filter). I've tried escaping the slashes, not escaping them ... even
 partial words, but I obviously am missing something somewhere.
 
 Anyone have any ideas?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Ralph

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread Dale

stosss wrote:

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

I think I have it set up on the gmail server to do whatever Seamonkey says.
  Then I have to set up Seamonkey to send text only to gentoo.org and kde.org
.  Those are the two mailing lists I regularly reply to.  I only want plain
text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I send pics and other
things to other folks.

I assume that is what you are talking about.  I have not been able to get
gmail to send me a copy.  I know the mailing list software sends a copy back
but gmail won't let me get it over pop access.
 

sorry, I was talking about setting gmail to send you a copy of your email.


   


Where is that setting?  I have looked but maybe they are calling it 
something that I'm not recognizing.  I just looked again and they have 
added a LOT of new settings.  I don't see that one tho.  It is hiding 
from me and I would really like to have that.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread stosss
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 stosss wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote:


 I think I have it set up on the gmail server to do whatever Seamonkey
 says.
  Then I have to set up Seamonkey to send text only to gentoo.org and
 kde.org
 .  Those are the two mailing lists I regularly reply to.  I only want
 plain
 text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I send pics and
 other
 things to other folks.

 I assume that is what you are talking about.  I have not been able to get
 gmail to send me a copy.  I know the mailing list software sends a copy
 back
 but gmail won't let me get it over pop access.


 sorry, I was talking about setting gmail to send you a copy of your email.




 Where is that setting?  I have looked but maybe they are calling it
 something that I'm not recognizing.  I just looked again and they have added
 a LOT of new settings.  I don't see that one tho.  It is hiding from me and
 I would really like to have that.

It does not appear to be possible now. I have never used it. I like
the way it puts it in the thread in my account.



[gentoo-user] Re: syslog-ng filtering

2010-03-17 Thread Robert Fekete

That's right, the value() parameter specifies which part of the message to
check. This helps to cut down the performance cost of filtering, because there
is no need to process the entire message if you are filtering on the program
name, for example. 

Also, check the syslog-ng Administrator Guide
(http://www.balabit.com/support/documentation/?product=syslog-ngtype=alllanguage[en]=en;)
if you run into problems. And let me know if you do not find something that
should be in the guide so I can add it some time.

Regards, 

Robert Fekete
maintainer of the syslog-ng documentation
 





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread Dale

stosss wrote:

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

stosss wrote:
 

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.comwrote:

   

I think I have it set up on the gmail server to do whatever Seamonkey
says.
  Then I have to set up Seamonkey to send text only to gentoo.org and
kde.org
.  Those are the two mailing lists I regularly reply to.  I only want
plain
text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I send pics and
other
things to other folks.

I assume that is what you are talking about.  I have not been able to get
gmail to send me a copy.  I know the mailing list software sends a copy
back
but gmail won't let me get it over pop access.

 

sorry, I was talking about setting gmail to send you a copy of your email.



   

Where is that setting?  I have looked but maybe they are calling it
something that I'm not recognizing.  I just looked again and they have added
a LOT of new settings.  I don't see that one tho.  It is hiding from me and
I would really like to have that.
 

It does not appear to be possible now. I have never used it. I like
the way it puts it in the thread in my account.


   


Ahhh, I use the email client part of Seamonkey.  I don't use the webmail 
for gmail.  It has a copy, last I looked, in the inbox but it doesn't 
let it be downloaded with pop access.  I hope that makes sense.  ;-)


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Udev error and how to fix it.

2010-03-17 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 04:59 -0500, Dale wrote:

 If that don't work, I may go to Firefox, which is installed anyway, and 
 Thunderbird.  From what I have read I can transfer the emails and such 
 over from there since they are set up like Seamonkey.  That's my 
 understanding at least.  I could be wrong on that.

I've transferred thousands of emails between evolution, thunderbird,
claws and back again, no probs (except for the time it took).  I assume
seamonkey shouldn't be any different (although they may all end up
blank?!)

-- 
Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au

Order and simplification are the first steps toward mastery of a subject
-- the actual enemy is the unknown.
-- Thomas Mann




Re: [gentoo-user] Udev error and how to fix it.

2010-03-17 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 08:56 +0100, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:17:58AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Tuesday 16 March 2010 17:33:13 Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote:
  
   usually always look to see if ...
  
  Sorry, but I'm having terrible trouble parsing this expression.
  
 Haha, no wonder. In the initial reply I had written that I left my
 brain somewhere. I think that illustrates it quite well :P

I don't see any need for excuses, it sounds like fine common English to
me, with the possible exception of a run-on if.

The full sentence was I usually always look to see if Dale has been
involved in a thread if HAL is mentioned

-- 
Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au

In war, truth is the first casualty.
-- U Thant




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strategy for using SAN/NAS for storage with Gentoo...

2010-03-17 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 09:37 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

 There was talk of opensolaris going by the wayside with the Oracle
 takeover of Sun... but Oracle has since announced its intention of
 puttin even more resources into `opensolaris' development than Sun was
 doing.

that will kill it for sure!  (ok, maybe not, but you know the mythical
man month...)

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Life is like a sewer.  What you get out of it depends on what you put into it.
-- Tom Lehrer




Re: [gentoo-user] Udev error and how to fix it.

2010-03-17 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:28:16PM +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 08:56 +0100, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:17:58AM +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
   On Tuesday 16 March 2010 17:33:13 Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote:
   
usually always look to see if ...
   
   Sorry, but I'm having terrible trouble parsing this expression.
   
  Haha, no wonder. In the initial reply I had written that I left my
  brain somewhere. I think that illustrates it quite well :P
 
 I don't see any need for excuses, it sounds like fine common English to
 me, with the possible exception of a run-on if.
 
 The full sentence was I usually always look to see if Dale has been
 involved in a thread if HAL is mentioned
 
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 Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au
 
 In war, truth is the first casualty.
   -- U Thant
 
 

Ah it's just using two different words that describe seeing something :-)
I like to think that my english is a little better. I mean it should have been 
see if or look to see whether (as far as I remember anyway :-))

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Re: [gentoo-user] Udev error and how to fix it.

2010-03-17 Thread Dale

Iain Buchanan wrote:

On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 04:59 -0500, Dale wrote:

   

If that don't work, I may go to Firefox, which is installed anyway, and
Thunderbird.  From what I have read I can transfer the emails and such
over from there since they are set up like Seamonkey.  That's my
understanding at least.  I could be wrong on that.
 

I've transferred thousands of emails between evolution, thunderbird,
claws and back again, no probs (except for the time it took).  I assume
seamonkey shouldn't be any different (although they may all end up
blank?!)

   


Actually I got it all transferred over just fine.  I made a back up of 
my home directory then just renamed the .mozilla directory.  I got a new 
profile and just copied over the email directory, bookmark, address book 
and the passwords file.  It went rather smoothly.  This link which tells 
what files are what is really helpful.


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_SeaMonkey

That site seems to be down at the moment tho.  Weird.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Udev error and how to fix it.

2010-03-17 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 02:05:12PM +0100, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote:
  I don't see any need for excuses, it sounds like fine common English to
  me, with the possible exception of a run-on if.
  
  The full sentence was I usually always look to see if Dale has been
  involved in a thread if HAL is mentioned
 Ah it's just using two different words that describe seeing something :-)
 I like to think that my english is a little better. I mean it should have 
 been see if or look to see whether (as far as I remember anyway :-))
 
Huh, the look to see part, while inelegant and repetitive, is a common
colloquialism, and I don't think was the problem. I was more thrown
off by usually always, which is either an oxymoron (if you take a
strict view of the word usually) or redundant (if you take usually
to contain always as a subset). /pedant

(Looks like I only have off-topic contributions to this thread.)

W
-- 
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Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
 et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton



Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-03-17 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 17:11, Ward Poelmans wpoel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 16:41, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 A much better way is to run a dedicated agent on the client. If the server
 needs to schedule backups, it can ask the agent to do so using regular tcp
 traffic. The client can then do it's backup and rsync it over to the server
 when it's done, and that push can be done as a regular user on both ends. The
 actual backing up on the client must be done by root of course, no other user
 has the necessary access.

If anyone is still interested, i had some time and this is what i did:

On the client:
rsync -a -X -b --backup-dir=../backup.0/ --link-dest=../backup.0/
/home/ward backupserver:Backup-Laptop/backup.cur/
ssh backupserver /home/ward/shiftbackups.sh

This makes a directory backup.cur on the backupserver with a full
backup in it, but it's exactly only a incremental backup as it
hardlinks from backup.0 (the previous backup). The script
shiftbackups.sh moves backup.0 to backup.1 and backup.cur to backup.0
and so on...

This does more or less exactly what i wanted.

Regards,

Ward



Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng filtering

2010-03-17 Thread Ralph Slooten
Fantastic, you hit the nail right on the head! Works like a charm now.

Now I'm wondering how it is you found out that it was this way and not the
other? Robert maintains the documentation for rsync which I did look at, but
with 225 pages I wasn't able to find this useful piece of information. Man
syslog-ng.conf does not explain it either, in fact I searched Google and
found several tutorials, none mentioning this ;-)

Maybe I'm the idiot here, however I thought that this was a common way of
getting rid of unwanted crud from the syslog?

Also, I just read the gentoo-wiki site page again and it says :

filter f_shorewall { not match(regex value(Shorewall)); };  #
Filter everything except regex keyword Shorewall

Surely this is the exact same mistake I made? Either that or I'm reading it
wrong





On 17 March 2010 23:39, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wednesday 17 March 2010 01:22:59 Ralph Slooten wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Has anyone here worked out how to filter out syslog messages using
  syslog-ng v3? The old syntax doesn't work (well complains bitterly about
  performance and says to use regex), and no matter what I try I cannot get
  the new syntax to work :-/ I have a syslog-ng server which logs to MySQL
  for multiple clients in a network, however the database just keeps
 growing
  with irrelevant data I'd prefer to just quietly ignore on the server
 side.
 
  I'm trying to filter out (exclude) messages such as:
(root) CMD (/root/bin/vmware-checker)
  and
(root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons  /usr/sbin/run-crons )
 
  ==
  filter myfilter {
  not match(regex value(\/usr\/sbin\/run-crons))
  and not match(regex value(vmware-checker));
  }

 Hah! this caught me out too.

 The value of value cannot be anything arbitrary - syslog-ng has no clue
 what
 you mean. The value is a field name, either a pre-defined one, or something
 you defined using a parser. The docs are ambiguous on this, it's not clear
 that the supplied values are abstracts. You are truing to search for the
 string regex in a field called /usr/bin/vmware-checker.

 Which obviously will not work.

 I think you want:

 match(\/usr\/sbin\/run-crons value MESSAGE)

 Note that it is MESSAGE. You want the field name, not it's dereferenced
 value.



  log {
  source(src);
  source(remote);
  filter(myfilter);
  destination(d_mysql);
  };
  ===
 
  However they just keep coming through the filter (ie: not matching the
 not
  match filter). I've tried escaping the slashes, not escaping them ...
 even
  partial words, but I obviously am missing something somewhere.
 
  Anyone have any ideas?
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Ralph

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng filtering

2010-03-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 17 March 2010 22:16:20 Ralph Slooten wrote:
 Fantastic, you hit the nail right on the head! Works like a charm now.
 
 Now I'm wondering how it is you found out that it was this way and not the
 other? Robert maintains the documentation for rsync which I did look at,
 but with 225 pages I wasn't able to find this useful piece of information.
 Man syslog-ng.conf does not explain it either, in fact I searched Google
 and found several tutorials, none mentioning this ;-)

I read documentation, man pages and google all day every day, some things just 
get intuitive :-)

Seriously though, there are a few hints. Syslog-ng's config file format was 
written by programmers for programmers to be understood by programmers. That 
may not have been the stated intent, but it is how things turned out. The 
syntax is exactly that of C, all the way down to braces and statement 
terminators. So, when reading the docs, I flicked the switch that puts my 
brain in C-mode.

Also, there's an example in the admin guide pdf chapter 3 Configuring syslog-
ng, something like:

match(string value(MESSAGE);

It says that MESSAGE is exactly that and must not be dereferenced with $

That was a dead give-away

 
 Maybe I'm the idiot here, however I thought that this was a common way of
 getting rid of unwanted crud from the syslog?

It IS the ideal way to pre-filter logs based on the message content. Pre 
version 3, you could only match on the entire message, so the feature to be 
able to search just a user-defined chunk of the log entry is a major plus
 
 Also, I just read the gentoo-wiki site page again and it says :
 
 filter f_shorewall { not match(regex value(Shorewall)); };  #
 Filter everything except regex keyword Shorewall
 
 Surely this is the exact same mistake I made? Either that or I'm reading it
 wrong

No, you are not reading it wrong - the gentoo guide is wrong. It's a common 
mistake, as the syntax looks like it's a name-value pair. To my mind, the 
label value should instead be field or some synonym of that.

All the evidence indicates to me that the syntax makes sense once you get 
how it works, but most folks' initial assumption about it is wrong, and the 
developer never spotted his serious case of being blinded by his own 
understanding.

I see Robert responded here earlier. Perhaps he'll see this post and re-look 
at that section in a new light with a view to making a patch



 
 On 17 March 2010 23:39, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wednesday 17 March 2010 01:22:59 Ralph Slooten wrote:
   Hi all,
   
   Has anyone here worked out how to filter out syslog messages using
   syslog-ng v3? The old syntax doesn't work (well complains bitterly
   about performance and says to use regex), and no matter what I try I
   cannot get the new syntax to work :-/ I have a syslog-ng server which
   logs to MySQL for multiple clients in a network, however the database
   just keeps
  
  growing
  
   with irrelevant data I'd prefer to just quietly ignore on the server
  
  side.
  
   I'm trying to filter out (exclude) messages such as:
 (root) CMD (/root/bin/vmware-checker)
   
   and
   
 (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons  /usr/sbin/run-crons )
   
   ==
   filter myfilter {
   
   not match(regex value(\/usr\/sbin\/run-crons))
   and not match(regex value(vmware-checker));
   
   }
  
  Hah! this caught me out too.
  
  The value of value cannot be anything arbitrary - syslog-ng has no clue
  what
  you mean. The value is a field name, either a pre-defined one, or
  something you defined using a parser. The docs are ambiguous on this,
  it's not clear that the supplied values are abstracts. You are truing to
  search for the string regex in a field called /usr/bin/vmware-checker.
  
  Which obviously will not work.
  
  I think you want:
  
  match(\/usr\/sbin\/run-crons value MESSAGE)
  
  Note that it is MESSAGE. You want the field name, not it's dereferenced
  value.
  
   log {
   
   source(src);
   source(remote);
   filter(myfilter);
   destination(d_mysql);
   
   };
   ===
   
   However they just keep coming through the filter (ie: not matching the
  
  not
  
   match filter). I've tried escaping the slashes, not escaping them ...
  
  even
  
   partial words, but I obviously am missing something somewhere.
   
   Anyone have any ideas?
   
   Thanks in advance,
   Ralph
  
  --
  alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 17.03.2010 12:21, schrieb Dale:
 stosss wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote:
   
 stosss wrote:
 
 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.comwrote:

   
[...]


 I assume that is what you are talking about.  I have not been able
 to get
 gmail to send me a copy.  I know the mailing list software sends a
 copy
 back
 but gmail won't let me get it over pop access.

  
 sorry, I was talking about setting gmail to send you a copy of your
 email.

 Where is that setting?  I have looked but maybe they are calling it
 something that I'm not recognizing.  I just looked again and they
 have added
 a LOT of new settings.  I don't see that one tho.  It is hiding from
 me and
 I would really like to have that.
  
 It does not appear to be possible now. I have never used it. I like
 the way it puts it in the thread in my account.

 Ahhh, I use the email client part of Seamonkey.  I don't use the webmail
 for gmail.  It has a copy, last I looked, in the inbox but it doesn't
 let it be downloaded with pop access.  I hope that makes sense.  ;-)
 

I've never tried it but couldn't you just create a filter in Seamonkey
which copies all mails in 'Sent Items' to your inbox which where sent to
a mailing list (Extras - Filter ...)?

Also, at least in Thunderbird, you can set the 'Sent Items' folder for
each account and each identity (Edit - Account settings - Additional
Identities). So, if you create a different identity for sending to the
mailing list, you could just let Seamonkey put your sent items in your
inbox.

Hope this helps,
Florian Philipp

P.S. I had to translate all buttons and setting names from German to
English. Therefore 'Additional Idenities' could also be 'More
Identities' and so on.



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Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng filtering

2010-03-17 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Thu, 03/18, Ralph Slooten wrote: ===
 Maybe I'm the idiot here, however I thought that this was a common
 way of getting rid of unwanted crud from the syslog?

===

Probably the best method is to not send it there in the first place. 

For example, the script run by cron, /usr/sbin/run-crons, has this line
in it:

[ -x /usr/bin/logger ]  /usr/bin/logger -i -p cron.info -t run-crons
(`whoami`) CMD ($SCRIPT)

You can comment that out and then those annoying run-cron entries won't
be logged.



-- Keith Dart

-- 
-- 
Keith Dart
ke...@dartworks.biz
===



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strategy for using SAN/NAS for storage with Gentoo...

2010-03-17 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 16.03.2010 22:26, schrieb Neil Bothwick:
 On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:13:29 +, Stroller wrote:
 
 How does your system boot if your RAID1 system volume fails?  

 You put GRUB on both disks, then you can boot from either on its
 own.  

 Is this reliable? I don't contest it, I'm just asking. It's just this  
 was one of my considerations when choosing hardware RAID.
 
 Yes it is, if sda fails unplug it and sdb becomes sda (or hd1 becomes
 hd0 in GRUB terms) and the boot continues. Because RAID1 puts the RAID
 superblock in a different location from the ordinary one, you can use
 either disk from a RAID1 array as a single disk.
 
 

Just for clarification: Is it really necessary to unplug the broken disk
for this to work?
If read access fails on sda and the BIOS tries sdb, would this also
work? Isn't grub's hd0 always the disk on which grub resides (e.g. the
disk from which grub managed to boot)?

Thanks in advance!
Florian Philipp



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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/init.d/net.ra0 is not bringing up the interface?

2010-03-17 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 17 March 2010 08:24:07 Tony Miller wrote:
 Well it was working, then I wanted to add this to my /etc/conf.d/net:
 
 essid_ra0=( my essid )
 
 Now the same problem is happening again, any advice?

Yes, first please try not to top post because it messes up the natural flow of 
the question/answer sequence.

Then try this syntax in case it works: essid_ra0=my essid
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Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread Dale

Florian Philipp wrote:

I've never tried it but couldn't you just create a filter in Seamonkey
which copies all mails in 'Sent Items' to your inbox which where sent to
a mailing list (Extras -  Filter ...)?

Also, at least in Thunderbird, you can set the 'Sent Items' folder for
each account and each identity (Edit -  Account settings -  Additional
Identities). So, if you create a different identity for sending to the
mailing list, you could just let Seamonkey put your sent items in your
inbox.

Hope this helps,
Florian Philipp

P.S. I had to translate all buttons and setting names from German to
English. Therefore 'Additional Idenities' could also be 'More
Identities' and so on.

   


I don't know if Seamonkey can do that or not.  What I have tried is to 
CC myself, BCC myself and setting up the gmail server so that I can have 
a copy.  The only way that I know works is to go to the sent folder and 
just copy it to the folder for the mailing list.


The biggest problem with that is that the first message I send doesn't 
thread properly.  So basically anyone who responds just appears out of 
nowhere.  If I send a new message to this list and two people respond, 
it is two separate threads.  Which is sometimes confusing.  I usually 
tag the threads I start in red just to make sure I don't miss something.


I think what I need is to change my email address ONE MORE TIME.  I need 
a server that will send me copies and also not filter spam.  I rarely 
use the webmail part and I do get false positives sometimes and have to 
go dig on the server to find them.  I have to do this every couple weeks 
with gmail now.  I thought about just paying for Yahoo since I have 
three accounts there.  I could pay for one of them and then have pop 
access.  I think I can disable their spam filters too.


I think to much sometimes.   :/

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strategy for using SAN/NAS for storage with Gentoo...

2010-03-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:44:34 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:

 Just for clarification: Is it really necessary to unplug the broken disk
 for this to work?
 If read access fails on sda and the BIOS tries sdb, would this also
 work? Isn't grub's hd0 always the disk on which grub resides (e.g. the
 disk from which grub managed to boot)?

I suspect that may be dependent on the nature of the failure. For
example, if /boot is corrupted, the BIOS will still boot from the broken
disk's MBR before failing later.

Most BIOSes now enable you to disable individual SATA ports, so you could
disappear the disk without unplugging it, although I'm not sure why you'd
want to leave a broken disk in the box.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

This is the day for firm decisions! Or is it?


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[gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread Hartmut Figge
Dale:

The biggest problem with that is that the first message I send doesn't 
thread properly.  So basically anyone who responds just appears out of 
nowhere.  If I send a new message to this list and two people respond, 
it is two separate threads.  Which is sometimes confusing.  I usually 
tag the threads I start in red just to make sure I don't miss something.

Since many years i am using all of my mailing lists via news.gmane.org.
Maybe this is an option for you also.

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ge100317.png (55 KB)

Hartmut




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread Dale

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Dale:

   

The biggest problem with that is that the first message I send doesn't
thread properly.  So basically anyone who responds just appears out of
nowhere.  If I send a new message to this list and two people respond,
it is two separate threads.  Which is sometimes confusing.  I usually
tag the threads I start in red just to make sure I don't miss something.
 

Since many years i am using all of my mailing lists via news.gmane.org.
Maybe this is an option for you also.

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ge100317.png (55 KB)

Hartmut

   


I tried that once but I never could get it to work for me.  I started 
out doing it the way I am because I was on dial-up.  I could download my 
email and disconnect, then read them at my leisure.  If I needed to 
reply, I could type it in then send it when I connected again.  It 
worked.  Now I have DSL and that does change a lot of things.  It 
certainly made updating Gentoo a lot faster, especially Open Office.


May have to check into some things and see how I like it.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng filtering

2010-03-17 Thread Ralph Slooten
On 18 March 2010 09:40, Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz wrote:

 You can comment that out and then those annoying run-cron entries won't
 be logged.


Yes, dropping those entries on the client side is an option, however then I
have to do it for each client in the network. Doing it on the server means
just once... and it's all local network, no bandwidth isn't an issue either.

There are also some cron jobs I do want logged ~ things that run maybe
weekly or monthly, but some run every minute and really don't need to be
logged.


Re: [gentoo-user] (EE) XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard

2010-03-17 Thread Leandro Boscariol
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 18:38, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tuesday 16 March 2010 16:35:09 Leandro Boscariol wrote:
  Hi Mick.
 
  On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 19:26, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Friday 12 March 2010 19:37:33 Leandro Boscariol wrote:
Hi guys.
   
While trying to find a solution for this error:
   
(EE) XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard
 [snip ...]

  Any other idea?

 What does 'cat /etc/env.d/90xsession' show?  If nothing, then create it and
 add to it:

 XSESSION=fluxbox


None existed. Created it.

Tried kdm, kde, kde4, and still nothing.

Am I using the wrong value or its bug related yet?



 or whatever is your DE/WM.  If this is a multi-user machine and people use
 different WMs then you'll need to set this up in their .bashrc.

 HTH.
 --
 Regards,
 Mick



Regards!
-- 
Leandro A. Boscariol


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mittwoch 17 März 2010 schrieb Dale:

 I only want plain text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I
 send pics and other things to other folks.

Ya don’t need HTML for that. ;-)

I have even seen mails that were multiparted plain-text, i.e. text, image 
attachment, text, image-attachment, you get the idea. Don’t know anymore 
though what program that was.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with script calling OOCalc on amd64

2010-03-17 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 17 March 2010 09:15:17 Amit Dor-Shifer wrote:
 ok. I didn't realize that oocalc actually executed in your first attempt.
 Out of ideas then.
 
 FWIW - a few guesses: I'd execute oocalc under strace, and try to find
 what is killing oocalc (does it decide to exit, or is it sent some
 signal). If your suspecting xterm to be the culprit (i.e., yr script
 works-as-expected w/o the xterm wrap) then maybe it'll be worthwhile
 looking into the X resources yr xterm is reading.

That's interesting ... which Xresources is xterm reading?  I have this in my 
~/.Xresources:

aterm*loginShell:true
aterm*saveLines:32767
aterm*transparent:true
aterm*transpscrollbar:true
aterm*shading:40
aterm*fading:55
aterm*font:-*-fixed-*-*-*-*-20-*-100-*-*-*-*-*

but xterm (judging by the size of the font) does not use it.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] (EE) XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard

2010-03-17 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 17 March 2010 22:20:12 Leandro Boscariol wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 18:38, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

  What does 'cat /etc/env.d/90xsession' show?  If nothing, then create it
  and add to it:
 
  XSESSION=fluxbox
 
 None existed. Created it.
 
 Tried kdm, kde, kde4, and still nothing.
 
 Am I using the wrong value or its bug related yet?

The syntax for your session should be one of the names listed under 
/etc/X11/Sessions/*

e.g. KDE-4

So it should look like:

XSESSION=KDE-4

Don't forget to restart /etc/init.d/xdm or reboot.
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Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about Seamonkey and a test.

2010-03-17 Thread stosss
On Wednesday, March 17, 2010, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote:
 Am Mittwoch 17 März 2010 schrieb Dale:

 I only want plain text to the mailing lists and html for everyone else.  I
 send pics and other things to other folks.

 Ya don’t need HTML for that. ;-)

 I have even seen mails that were multiparted plain-text, i.e. text, image
 attachment, text, image-attachment, you get the idea. Don’t know anymore
 though what program that was.

KMail does multi-parted



[gentoo-user] top does not save settings

2010-03-17 Thread Mick
This is another little nuisance that I have noticed on this new amd64 laptop:

In an aterm I launch top.  Then press z c and Shift+W.  I get:

   Wrote configuration to '/home/michael/.toprc' 
   
Fine I think, Ctrl+c to end it and move on.  Next time I fire up top, even 
from the same terminal, it's all looking white with no colour, no 
highlighting, or anything else.  Why is this?  This is what the contents of 
.toprc show:
=
Cfile for top with windows   # shameless braggin'
Id:a, Mode_altscr=0, Mode_irixps=1, Delay_time=3.000, Curwin=0
fieldscur=AEHIOQTWKNMbcdfgjplrsuvyzX
winflags=64953, sortindx=10, maxtasks=0
summclr=1, msgsclr=1, headclr=3, taskclr=1
fieldscur=ABcefgjlrstuvyzMKNHIWOPQDX
winflags=62777, sortindx=0, maxtasks=0
summclr=6, msgsclr=6, headclr=7, taskclr=6
fieldscur=ANOPQRSTUVbcdefgjlmyzWHIKX
winflags=62777, sortindx=13, maxtasks=0
summclr=5, msgsclr=5, headclr=4, taskclr=5
fieldscur=ABDECGfhijlopqrstuvyzMKNWX
winflags=62777, sortindx=4, maxtasks=0
summclr=3, msgsclr=3, headclr=2, taskclr=3
= 

Same thing happens in xterm and konsole.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Udev error and how to fix it.

2010-03-17 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 10:25 -0400, Willie Wong wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 02:05:12PM +0100, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote:
   I don't see any need for excuses, it sounds like fine common English to
   me, with the possible exception of a run-on if.

I meant to use the word apology instead of excuse, but it was late for
me too :)

   The full sentence was I usually always look to see if Dale has been
   involved in a thread if HAL is mentioned
  Ah it's just using two different words that describe seeing something :-)
  I like to think that my english is a little better. I mean it should have 
  been see if or look to see whether (as far as I remember anyway :-))
  
 Huh, the look to see part, while inelegant and repetitive, is a common
 colloquialism, and I don't think was the problem. I was more thrown
 off by usually always, which is either an oxymoron (if you take a
 strict view of the word usually) or redundant (if you take usually
 to contain always as a subset). /pedant
 
 (Looks like I only have off-topic contributions to this thread.)

me too.

usually always is also a colloquialism which means almost always ;)
ie. not quite always, but close to it... at least it usually always
means that.

But hey, if we were to be that picky on this list hardly anyone would be
here.  That's why we have programming languages, because English is too
forgiving and fuzzy!
-- 
Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au

War is like love, it always finds a way.
-- Bertolt Brecht, Mother Courage




[gentoo-user] Re: Udev error and how to fix it.

2010-03-17 Thread walt

On 03/17/2010 05:29 PM, Iain Buchanan wrote:


...That's why we have programming languages, because English is too
forgiving and fuzzy!


By George, I think you've got it.  From now on, all political campaign
speeches should be written in C.  Well, okay, maybe in COBOL for the
older ones.




Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with script calling OOCalc on amd64

2010-03-17 Thread Dan Wallis
On 16 March 2010 12:41, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have run into a problem which I cannot explain.  I am trying to run this
 script in a amd64 installation:

 xterm -fg green -bg black -e 'gpg Personal/data.ods.gpg  oocalc \
 Personal/data.ods; shred --remove -z -v DATA/data.ods'

 On a x86 system, oocalc launches, I use the file and when I close it shred
 removes it.  On the amd64 system, the file is shredded as soon as it is
 opened.  This is what happens:

I get something similar with firefox: if it's the first instance, it
will block until I terminate firefox; but if there's already a firefox
running, it'll send a open this URL command to the other instance,
and close this new one.

I'm not sure if OOo is the same, but I'd recommend giving it a try.