Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs fails to build

2010-07-04 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le samedi 03 juillet 2010 19:38:39, Dale a écrit :
 Mick wrote:
  On Saturday 03 July 2010 17:28:41 Mick wrote:
  On Saturday 03 July 2010 12:49:49 Dale wrote:
  Mick wrote:
  I am running the kde-4.4.4 upgrade on a x86 machine and this is how
  kdelibs fails:
  
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kdecore/net
  w or k/k3socketdevice.h:275: warning:   by ‘virtual qint64
  KNetwork::KSocketDevice::writeData(const char*, qint64, const
  KNetwork::KSocketAddress*)’
  [ 54%] Building CXX object
  kio/CMakeFiles/kio.dir/kssl/ksslcertificate.o [ 54%] Building CXX
  object kio/CMakeFiles/kio.dir/kssl/ksslkeygen.o [ 54%] Building CXX
  object kio/CMakeFiles/kio.dir/kssl/ksslsettings.o [ 54%] Building CXX
  object kio/CMakeFiles/kio.dir/kssl/ksslutils.o
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kio/kssl/ks
  sls ettings.cpp: In member function ‘void KSSLSettings::load()’:
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kio/kssl/ks
  s ls ettings.cpp:134: warning: ‘void KConfigGroup::changeGroup(const
  char*)’ is deprecated (declared at
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kdecore/con
  f i g/kconfiggroup.h:159)
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kio/kssl/ks
  s l settings.cpp:139: warning: ‘void KConfigGroup::changeGroup(const
  char*)’ is deprecated (declared at
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kdecore/con
  f i g/kconfiggroup.h:159)
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kio/kssl/ks
  s l settings.cpp:144: warning: ‘void KConfigGroup::changeGroup(const
  char*)’ is deprecated (declared at
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kdecore/con
  f i g/kconfiggroup.h:159)
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kio/kssl/ks
  s l settings.cpp: In member function ‘void KSSLSettings::save()’:
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kio/kssl/k
  ss ls ettings.cpp:177: warning: ‘void KConfigGroup::changeGroup(const
  char*)’ is deprecated (declared at
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kdecore/con
  f i g/kconfiggroup.h:159)
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kio/kssl/ks
  s l settings.cpp:182: warning: ‘void KConfigGroup::changeGroup(const
  char*)’ is deprecated (declared at
  /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4/work/kdelibs-4.4.4/kdecore/con
  f i g/kconfiggroup.h:159) [ 54%] Building CXX object
  kio/CMakeFiles/kio.dir/kssl/ksslx509v3.o Linking CXX shared library
  ../lib/libkio.so
  /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin
  / ld
  
  : warning: creating a DT_TEXTREL in object.
  
  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
  make[2]: *** [lib/libkio.so.5.4.0] Error 1
  make[1]: *** [kio/CMakeFiles/kio.dir/all] Error 2
  make: *** [all] Error 2
  
 * ERROR: kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4 failed:
 *   Make failed!
 *
 * Call stack:
 * ebuild.sh, line   54:  Called src_compile
 *   environment, line 4033:  Called kde4-base_src_compile
 *   environment, line 3111:  Called cmake-utils_src_compile
 *   environment, line 1258:  Called _execute_optionaly
 'src_compile' *   environment, line  665:  Called
 enable_cmake-utils_src_compile *   environment, line 1623:  Called
 cmake-utils_src_make
 *   environment, line 1277:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake $@ || die Make failed!;
  
  
  
  Any ideas?
  
  Do you have MAKEOPTS set to a high number in make.conf?  I ask because
  in my 'knowing very little mind' I think it is trying to make a link to
  a file that kdelibs is supposed to be making.  It may be trying to link
  to something that isn't there yet so it failed.  If you have that set
  to 2 or higher, try setting it to 1 and see if that helps.
  
  Hope that works.  At least it didn't fail at 99%.  lol
  
  Dale
  
  Thanks Dale, I tried with -j1 and it fails with the same libkio.so
  error.
  
  I found a bug about it (324061) and I'm now trying again without ccache.
 
 That would be the next thing to try.  Most packages can compile with
 higher than -j1 and with ccache but some can not do so well.  I hope it
 compiles when you disable that.
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)

Did you think about changing the python set used ? For my own, it solves 90% 
of my emerge bugs !

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[gentoo-user] /usr/bin/time is in what package?

2010-07-04 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

 in what package can I find /usr/bin/time (not the shell's builtin) ?

 Or, in other more general words: How can I find a package which
 contains a certain installable file?

 Thanks a lot in advance for any help!
 Best regards,
 mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-04 Thread Mick
On Sunday 04 July 2010 04:19:54 Grant Edwards wrote:
 On 2010-07-03, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a
  response (as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash
  area first and then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it
  full screen, etc.) The fix they suggest does not work with the
  problem I am trying to solve with Opera-10.60 though.
  
  I'm not Steve Jobs friend as such, but can't wait another minute for
  html 5 to do away with the stupid adobe flash creation.
 
 While Flash has it technical faults, the main problem with flash is
 it's user-base.  It seems to be used primarily in two situations:
 
   1) When you're trying to hide the fact that the site content
  completely sucks.
 
   2) When you're too incompetent to do a good interface design.
 
 Perhaps if Flash weren't around, it's user-base would find some other
 equivalent way to blight their audince, but Flash is just so _good_ at
 it.

Did I say, my favourite addon for FF is flashblock? :-))
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs fails to build

2010-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 17:49:28 +0100, Mick wrote:

 I found a bug about it (324061) and I'm now trying again without ccache.

I have removed ccache from my systems, it cost me more time in chasing
problems that any saving in time (for the computer, not me). At last one
program even tried to use it with FEATURES=-ccache, I had to uninstall
it, and feel happier never reinstalling it.


-- 
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WinErr 013: Unexpected error - Huh ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 21:34:42 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

   When I replied, I hit A without thinking and only saw it after I
   pressed Ctrl-Enter to send. So my bad, my screw-up.  

That's the likely explanation. I occasionally get direct replies from
you, and they always appear in the list too.

 The computer gods allow me two cock-ups a day. I'm already way over
 limit and using up half of next week's quota in advance

A day? I thought it was per hour!

 That's what happens when you try to work, answer list mail and watch
 the World Cup in your back yard all at the same time!

I thought the World Cup finished last weekend :(


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Do I BELIEVE in the Bible?! HELL man, I've SEEN one!!!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 21:42:36 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

 never had any problems like that with kmail.
 Problems with stupid fingers - yeah, a lot.

But it's easier to blame the software!


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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/time is in what package?

2010-07-04 Thread justin
On 04/07/10 10:22, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 
  in what package can I find /usr/bin/time (not the shell's builtin) ?
 
  Or, in other more general words: How can I find a package which
  contains a certain installable file?
 
  Thanks a lot in advance for any help!
  Best regards,
  mcc
 
 
 
 

sys-process/time



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-04 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:54:56 Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 03 July 2010 20:31:35 you wrote:
  On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:55:50 Mick wrote:
   On Saturday 03 July 2010 12:37:53 you wrote:
On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:30:46 Mick wrote:
 On Friday 02 July 2010 08:51:21 netfab wrote:
  Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
  
  Grant a écrit :
   I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I deleted
   pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I restarted
   firefox, but flash still isn't working.  It works in opera. 
   Any ideas?
  
  Try with another new profile :
  $ firefox -ProfileManager
 
 Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but
 still works in FF-3.6.4.  o_O
 
 I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...

Latest flash does not have a 64 bit version. On amd64 you MUST use
nspluginwrapper.

Safest is to just remerge the thing and let it convert all your
plugins - the command to do that is somewhat arcane and tedious but
the ebuild does it all automatically.
   
   Right, I've done all that and also went into the browser control panel
   to ask it to scan new plugins (after I checked that the paths were
   correct) and Opera still does not play flash.  Going to youtube just
   shows the circular video loading graphic and nothing much happens -
   despite the fact that the network gkrellm shows the download is taking
   place ...
  
  I get the same. Looks like a bug to me. I found this, but nothing
  mentioned in it helped me:
  
  http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321465
 
 This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a
 response (as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash area
 first and then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it full
 screen, etc.)  The fix they suggest does not work with the problem I am
 trying to solve with Opera-10.60 though.

I filed this bug: 326841

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs fails to build

2010-07-04 Thread Mick
On Sunday 04 July 2010 09:59:30 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 17:49:28 +0100, Mick wrote:
  I found a bug about it (324061) and I'm now trying again without ccache.
 
 I have removed ccache from my systems, it cost me more time in chasing
 problems that any saving in time (for the computer, not me). At last one
 program even tried to use it with FEATURES=-ccache, I had to uninstall
 it, and feel happier never reinstalling it.

Hmm ... I thought that it was a_good_thing™.

I have not experienced problems with it both on x86 and amd64 to date (that I 
can remember).

Anyway, the fix to the kdelibs problem seems to have been related to cmake!  
Following the recommendations on the bug report I unmasked cmake-2.8.1-r2 and 
it is now clonking along at 75% of the build.  I think that this fixed it.
-- 
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/time is in what package?

2010-07-04 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 10:22 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 
  in what package can I find /usr/bin/time (not the shell's builtin) ?
 
sys-process/time

  Or, in other more general words: How can I find a package which
  contains a certain installable file?

In general you can't because, when you think about it, in the Gentoo
world most packages don't contain installable files.  The files don't
get created until build time, and then the files that are installed
depends variably on USE flags, CFLAGS, architecture, FEATURES, etc. etc.
So the set of installed files created by a package on my system can be
different than the set of files created by the same package on your
system.

But people don't like that answer.  So there is a statistical, though
not always accurate way of finding out:

http://www.portagefilelist.de/




Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/time is in what package?

2010-07-04 Thread Mick
On Sunday 04 July 2010 09:22:55 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 
  in what package can I find /usr/bin/time (not the shell's builtin) ?
 
  Or, in other more general words: How can I find a package which
  contains a certain installable file?
 
  Thanks a lot in advance for any help!

It's part of /bin/busybox I think so running qfile time will not show it up 
and which time won't get you closer either.
-- 
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/time is in what package?

2010-07-04 Thread Stroller


On 4 Jul 2010, at 09:22, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

in what package can I find /usr/bin/time (not the shell's builtin) ?


sys-process/time


Or, in other more general words: How can I find a package which
contains a certain installable file?


qfile /usr/bin/time

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/time is in what package?

2010-07-04 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 10:59 +0100, Stroller wrote:
 On 4 Jul 2010, at 09:22, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  in what package can I find /usr/bin/time (not the shell's builtin) ?
 
 sys-process/time
 
  Or, in other more general words: How can I find a package which
  contains a certain installable file?
 
 qfile /usr/bin/time
 
 Stroller.
 
 

This only works for files already on your system which is ok if thats
what you want.  If like in this case you are trying to locate a binary
thats not installed - how do you find what package its in?

For me its down to googling and seeing what other distros use and map
that back to a gentoo package as far as I can see.

BillK


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Home in Perth!




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 04 July 2010 05:21:33 Grant Edwards wrote:
 On 2010-07-03, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
  The computer gods allow me two cock-ups a day. I'm already way over
  limit and using up half of next week's quota in advance
  
  That's what happens when you try to work, answer list mail and watch
  the World Cup in your back yard all at the same time!
 
 Holy crap!  They're playing world cup games in your back yard?  The
 vuvuzelas must be driving you to distraction...

Oi, you! That's the national musical instrument you're talking about!

:-)

You get used to it though, like traffic noise. 


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/time is in what package?

2010-07-04 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:10:13 +0200
pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:

 On 2010-07-04 11:57, Mick wrote:
 
  It's part of /bin/busybox I think so running qfile time will not
  show it up and which time won't get you closer either.
 
 I just got curious when the OP posted this so I tried to do a 'which
 time' and equery b time but no go... But still I have the 'time'
 command available, so I thought it was a bash builtin command, but it
 isn't (acc. to the manual)... It's not an alias either. Busybox does
 contain the 'time' command but it doesn't seem like there's a hard
 link called 'time' anywhere in my path, but still I can run 'time'...
 I'm confused! Anyone have a good explanation?

$ type -a time
time is a shell keyword



Re: [gentoo-user] Compilation error: pygtk

2010-07-04 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 02.07.2010 03:35, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
 Hi 
 after updateing libpng I run revdep-rebuild, which
 said pygtk have to rebuild (beside others).
 The compilation of pygtk breaks with:
 
 Could not write function get_option_group: No ArgType for GOptionGroup*
 Could not write function settings_install_property: No ArgType for GParamSpec*
 Could not write function settings_install_property_parser: No ArgType for 
 GParamSpec*
 Could not write function stock_add_static: No ArgType for const-GtkStockItem*
 Could not write function stock_set_translate_func: No ArgType for 
 GtkTranslateFunc
 Could not write function print_run_page_setup_dialog_async: No ArgType for 
 GtkPageSetupDoneFunc
[...]

I've had the same problem. There is another error a few lines above
these, mentioning a missing library libpng-1.2 (well, well, who would
have guessed ;) ).

Anyway, in my case it helped to re-emerge libglade. There is no logic
behind this move other than that the affected compilation unit had
something to do with glade.

Hope this helps,
Florian Philipp



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Re: [gentoo-user] Stable users: libpng-1.4

2010-07-04 Thread Philip Webb
100630 Willie Wong wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:52:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 unmerge libpng
 delete everything left with libpng in it's name
 emerge -pvuND world just to see what was now busted
 same with revdep-rebuild
 re-emerge libpng and let portage pick the version to merge
 emerge -avuND world
 revdep-rebuild
 repeat till no problems reported
 lafilefixer --justfixit somewhere in the mix just for good measure.
 Am I just extremely lucky or something?
 libpng was installed, slotted on Tuesday May 11 nothing broke.
 Didn't run lafilefixer, but did run revdep-rebuild a few times
 and two deep world updates since then.
 Should I let my breath out now, or should I not be surprised
 if this problem hits a few weeks down the road?

My experience spread over  2 days  was fairly straightforward.
(1) Emerged Libpng 1.4.3 ; (2) 'revdep-rebuild' showed  42  rebuilds,
some of which wouldn't compile ; (3) 'lafilefixer --justfixit' helped ;
(4) 'r-r' showed a much shorter list ; (5) KDE (3 or 4) wouldn't start,
so re-merge Qt3 Kdelibs3  Ksokoban Kmahjongg3 Kworldclock ;
(6) re-merged Qt4 (9 pkgs) Kdelibs4 Speedcrunch ; (7) along the way,
a few other pkgs needed re-merging, eg Openmotif for Xpdf ;
(8) Xulrunner  Openoffice were listed by 'r-r', but seem ok asis ;
(9) I deleted the Libpng '12' lib, which is now obsolete.

HTH anyone else updating: just allow a few hours for re-merging.

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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/time is in what package?

2010-07-04 Thread pk
On 2010-07-04 11:57, Mick wrote:

 It's part of /bin/busybox I think so running qfile time will not show it up 
 and which time won't get you closer either.

I just got curious when the OP posted this so I tried to do a 'which
time' and equery b time but no go... But still I have the 'time' command
available, so I thought it was a bash builtin command, but it isn't
(acc. to the manual)... It's not an alias either. Busybox does contain
the 'time' command but it doesn't seem like there's a hard link called
'time' anywhere in my path, but still I can run 'time'... I'm confused!
Anyone have a good explanation?

Best regards

Peter K



Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/time is in what package?

2010-07-04 Thread pk
On 2010-07-04 14:13, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

 $ type -a time
 time is a shell keyword

And the world makes sense again... ;-)

Thanks!

Best regards

Peter K



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash stopped working after Firefox 3.6.3-3.6.4 update.

2010-07-04 Thread Mick
On Sunday 04 July 2010 10:35:06 Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:54:56 Mick wrote:
  On Saturday 03 July 2010 20:31:35 you wrote:
   On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:55:50 Mick wrote:
On Saturday 03 July 2010 12:37:53 you wrote:
 On Saturday 03 July 2010 13:30:46 Mick wrote:
  On Friday 02 July 2010 08:51:21 netfab wrote:
   Le Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:05:37 -0700,
   
   Grant a écrit :
I did have an extra libflashplayer.so, I deleted it, I
deleted pluginreg.dat, I re-emerged adobe-flash, and I
restarted firefox, but flash still isn't working.  It works
in opera. Any ideas?
   
   Try with another new profile :
 $ firefox -ProfileManager
  
  Here it stopped working in the new Opera-10.6 and Konqueror, but
  still works in FF-3.6.4.  o_O
  
  I'm starting a new thread for the Opera problem ...
 
 Latest flash does not have a 64 bit version. On amd64 you MUST use
 nspluginwrapper.
 
 Safest is to just remerge the thing and let it convert all your
 plugins - the command to do that is somewhat arcane and tedious but
 the ebuild does it all automatically.

Right, I've done all that and also went into the browser control
panel to ask it to scan new plugins (after I checked that the paths
were correct) and Opera still does not play flash.  Going to youtube
just shows the circular video loading graphic and nothing much
happens - despite the fact that the network gkrellm shows the
download is taking place ...
   
   I get the same. Looks like a bug to me. I found this, but nothing
   mentioned in it helped me:
   
   http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321465
  
  This bug refers to clicking in the flash controls and not getting a
  response (as a workaround I click outside of the embedded video flash
  area first and then click onto it to move the video cursor, expand it
  full screen, etc.)  The fix they suggest does not work with the problem
  I am trying to solve with Opera-10.60 though.
 
 I filed this bug: 326841

The problem seems to be that the new Opera will not follow symlinks to the 
plugin, in particular it will not follow:

/usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so - 
/opt/netscape/plugins32/libflashplayer.so

although it reports it as the plugin path in about:plugins.

So, removing the symlink and cp /usr/lib32/nsbrowser/plugins/libflashplayer.so 
to /opt/netscape/plugins32/libflashplayer.so fixes the problem.  Of course, 
the real fix should be with opera which suddenly stopped following the 
symlink.  Hopefully the bug report will be followed upstream.  Until then the 
copied file works for me.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Stable users: libpng-1.4

2010-07-04 Thread Dale

Philip Webb wrote:

100630 Willie Wong wrote:
   

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:52:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 

unmerge libpng
delete everything left with libpng in it's name
emerge -pvuND world just to see what was now busted
same with revdep-rebuild
re-emerge libpng and let portage pick the version to merge
emerge -avuND world
revdep-rebuild
repeat till no problems reported
lafilefixer --justfixit somewhere in the mix just for good measure.
   

Am I just extremely lucky or something?
libpng was installed, slotted on Tuesday May 11 nothing broke.
Didn't run lafilefixer, but did run revdep-rebuild a few times
and two deep world updates since then.
Should I let my breath out now, or should I not be surprised
if this problem hits a few weeks down the road?
 

My experience spread over  2 days  was fairly straightforward.
(1) Emerged Libpng 1.4.3 ; (2) 'revdep-rebuild' showed  42  rebuilds,
some of which wouldn't compile ; (3) 'lafilefixer --justfixit' helped ;
(4) 'r-r' showed a much shorter list ; (5) KDE (3 or 4) wouldn't start,
so re-merge Qt3 Kdelibs3  Ksokoban Kmahjongg3 Kworldclock ;
(6) re-merged Qt4 (9 pkgs) Kdelibs4 Speedcrunch ; (7) along the way,
a few other pkgs needed re-merging, eg Openmotif for Xpdf ;
(8) Xulrunner  Openoffice were listed by 'r-r', but seem ok asis ;
(9) I deleted the Libpng '12' lib, which is now obsolete.

HTH anyone else updating: just allow a few hours for re-merging.

   


I'm not alone then.  My KDE wouldn't start either.  Actually, kdm 
wouldn't start.  Sort of have to have one to get to the other.  I didn't 
like the idea of not having my GUI either.  :-(


I didn't run lafilefixer on mine but all my packages compiled on the 
first try.  I had 45 or so to compile on here.  Weird.  I was expecting 
at least one to fail.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] -march=native

2010-07-04 Thread James Cloos
 BH == Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com writes:

BH The correct -march is being displayed, I just can't make sense of the
BH options showing as [disabled]. While the option may be implied by the
BH -march settings, it just makes sense to me that the option should show
BH as enabled. Indeed, with my core2 machine the majority of the options
BH do display as enable as expected, just not with my k8-see3 @native.

FWIW, a tests on -march=amdfam10 on both gentoo and debian also show odd
enabled/disabled results, as do debian k8-sse3 and core2 boxen.  The
fedora core2 box I have access to, however, shows reasonable enableds.

Odd.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Stable users: libpng-1.4

2010-07-04 Thread Philip Webb
100704 Dale wrote:
 My KDE wouldn't start either.  Actually, kdm wouldn't start.
 Sort of have to have one to get to the other.
 I didn't like the idea of not having my GUI either.

That's why I stopped using a GUI login many years ago (smile).
I login to a raw terminal, then 'startx': avoids lots of troubles.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Stable users: libpng-1.4

2010-07-04 Thread Mick
On Sunday 04 July 2010 17:24:52 Dale wrote:
 Philip Webb wrote:
  100630 Willie Wong wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:52:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  unmerge libpng
  delete everything left with libpng in it's name
  emerge -pvuND world just to see what was now busted
  same with revdep-rebuild
  re-emerge libpng and let portage pick the version to merge
  emerge -avuND world
  revdep-rebuild
  repeat till no problems reported
  lafilefixer --justfixit somewhere in the mix just for good measure.
  
  Am I just extremely lucky or something?
  libpng was installed, slotted on Tuesday May 11 nothing broke.
  Didn't run lafilefixer, but did run revdep-rebuild a few times
  and two deep world updates since then.
  Should I let my breath out now, or should I not be surprised
  if this problem hits a few weeks down the road?
  
  My experience spread over  2 days  was fairly straightforward.
  (1) Emerged Libpng 1.4.3 ; (2) 'revdep-rebuild' showed  42  rebuilds,
  some of which wouldn't compile ; (3) 'lafilefixer --justfixit' helped ;
  (4) 'r-r' showed a much shorter list ; (5) KDE (3 or 4) wouldn't start,
  so re-merge Qt3 Kdelibs3  Ksokoban Kmahjongg3 Kworldclock ;
  (6) re-merged Qt4 (9 pkgs) Kdelibs4 Speedcrunch ; (7) along the way,
  a few other pkgs needed re-merging, eg Openmotif for Xpdf ;
  (8) Xulrunner  Openoffice were listed by 'r-r', but seem ok asis ;
  (9) I deleted the Libpng '12' lib, which is now obsolete.
  
  HTH anyone else updating: just allow a few hours for re-merging.
 
 I'm not alone then.  My KDE wouldn't start either.  Actually, kdm
 wouldn't start.  Sort of have to have one to get to the other.  I didn't
 like the idea of not having my GUI either.  :-(
 
 I didn't run lafilefixer on mine but all my packages compiled on the
 first try.  I had 45 or so to compile on here.  Weird.  I was expecting
 at least one to fail.

Run lafilefixer --justfixit and then revdep-rebuild -v -i.  You may have to 
rinse and repeat more than once.

I was getting symptoms like yours only to discover that I had many more 
packages that needed remerging.

YMMV
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[gentoo-user] [OT] How to capture a screen video?

2010-07-04 Thread Mick
What application can I use to capture a video sequence of events on my 
desktop?  I'd like to do stuff on an application and create a video of my 
mouse clicks and responses from the application.  Is there anything other than 
xvidcap which seems to be hard masked?
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] How to capture a screen video?

2010-07-04 Thread Blackdream W
ffmpeg or recordmydesktop.

I think google is ur best friend.[?]

2010/7/5 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com

 What application can I use to capture a video sequence of events on my
 desktop?  I'd like to do stuff on an application and create a video of my
 mouse clicks and responses from the application.  Is there anything other
 than
 xvidcap which seems to be hard masked?
 --
 Regards,
 Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?

2010-07-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 03 Jul 2010 15:02:18 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

  The joys of running binary software...  
 
 You have a way of running non-interpreted sources without compiling
 them to binary format first? :P

Yes, but I'm not telling how :)

You know what I meant!


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!

2010-07-04 Thread Alex Schuster
I wrote:

 Here's a list of my current KDE bugs. There are many, fortunately most
 of them are really minor issues.

[58 KDE bugs]

I forgot two. kio_thumbnail does not seem to save the results, and scans 
folders again, causing loads of 20. And the password dialog when the 
screen was blanked does sometimes (under heavy load) not react. A solution 
is to enter Ctrl-Alt-F7, then the dialog is responsive again. Whatever.

But all this does not matter any more in any way, because all will be 
fixed soon, as I just see KDE 4.4.5 is in portage! Emerging it right now.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list policy on reply

2010-07-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-07-03 6:55 AM, Mick wrote:
 Before TB implemented Reply-To-List, I preferred lists that munged
 the Reply-To, but no longer.

 Sometimes I receive a personal email response to a message that I
 have posted to the list.  This seems to happen because the person
 that kindly responded has for some reason cc'd me in the reply.  If I
 try to reply to it the post will not go to the list, but the person
 that emailed me.  Pressing 'l' in kmail just brings up an empty to
 field.  This seems to happen only with some replies.  Will keep an
 eye out for it to see if it is consistent.

It apparently only happens when someone hits 'Reply All' instead of
Reply_to_List - and then if you have your list preference (at least in
mailman) set to not receive duplicates, you will only get the personal
reply...

Irritating, I know... but it is pointless to complain about it, I just
deal with whatever I get silently and worry about more important things,
like who we should be hanging for this BP Oil disaster...



Re: [gentoo-user] Stable users: libpng-1.4

2010-07-04 Thread Dale

Philip Webb wrote:

100704 Dale wrote:
   

My KDE wouldn't start either.  Actually, kdm wouldn't start.
Sort of have to have one to get to the other.
I didn't like the idea of not having my GUI either.
 

That's why I stopped using a GUI login many years ago (smile).
I login to a raw terminal, then 'startx': avoids lots of troubles.

   


Wouldn't help if KDE wouldn't load tho.  A lot of the packages being 
rebuilt was KDE after all.  One of them kdelibs which is a biggie.  
Hmmm, spell check likes the word biggie now.  Odd.  I guess Wendy's 
hit big time.  lol  Also, I use Seamonkey to surf and check emails and 
it was being rebuilt too.  If I had known this before hand tho, I would 
have waited until I was going to bed and let it compile while I was 
napping.  Roughly 12 hours of compile time.  :/


Dale

:-)  :-)





Re: [gentoo-user] Stable users: libpng-1.4

2010-07-04 Thread Dale

Mick wrote:

On Sunday 04 July 2010 17:24:52 Dale wrote:
   
Run lafilefixer --justfixit and then revdep-rebuild -v -i.  You may have to

rinse and repeat more than once.

I was getting symptoms like yours only to discover that I had many more
packages that needed remerging.

YMMV
   


Everything is working fine.  It just wasn't as bad a upgrade as I 
thought it would be.  No serious problems or anything.  Just a lot of 
packages to recompile is all.


Of course, if I had known the new KDE was coming out, I would have 
waited until today.  The new KDE 4.4.5 is out.  Now I get to recompile 
the rest of KDE.  :-)


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting micro SD cards

2010-07-04 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:48 AM,  fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
 I want a bigger micro SD card in my cell phone it came with just 2GB),
 so I bought a 16GB one complete with carrier to fit in a standard SD
 slot.  My plan was to turn off the phone, remove the 2GB micro SD
 card, make a tarball of what is on there, put in the 16GB one and
 untar things, and put the 16GB one in the phone.

 No luck.  /dev shows for devices, sd[fghi], and neither mount nor
 fdisk knows what to do with them.  /var/log/messages has this:

Since it shows the capacity wrong I think it looks like maybe you do
not have an SDHC card reader but only an SD card reader. For cards
over 2GB you need SDHC, they use completely different addressing
systems.



Re: [gentoo-user] Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?

2010-07-04 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks,

big_snip /


I think the libpng issue shows up a more generic problem: 
we IMHO dont have a way for recording, which version / interface
of some version a package is built against. The need for things
like revdep-rebuild also comes from that.

I'm currently working on an generic design for that, some ideas:
(of course, yet limited to C and similar languages ;-o)

* libraries with (incompatible) interface changes should install
  their headers under some own versioned prefix
* library imports should _always_ happen via pkg-config
  (dont use .la files)
* pkg-config descriptors are extended to declare the API and 
  ABI version and generation, so interface breaks can be 
  determined automatically
* the package management records which version of some imported
  library a package was built against (some kind of revdep-scan
  between compile and merge)
* with that information the package management can do an smooth
  upgrade (w/o temporary breaks until revdep-rebuild finished)


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[gentoo-user] Re: Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?

2010-07-04 Thread walt
On 07/04/2010 06:38 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 Hi folks,

 * library imports should _always_ happen via pkg-config
   (dont use .la files)

+1  (Am I allowed +100?)




Re: [gentoo-user] Safe to install libpng-1.2.44?

2010-07-04 Thread Dale

Enrico Weigelt wrote:

Hi folks,

big_snip /


I think the libpng issue shows up a more generic problem:
we IMHO dont have a way for recording, which version / interface
of some version a package is built against. The need for things
like revdep-rebuild also comes from that.

I'm currently working on an generic design for that, some ideas:
(of course, yet limited to C and similar languages ;-o)

* libraries with (incompatible) interface changes should install
   their headers under some own versioned prefix
* library imports should _always_ happen via pkg-config
   (dont use .la files)
* pkg-config descriptors are extended to declare the API and
   ABI version and generation, so interface breaks can be
   determined automatically
* the package management records which version of some imported
   library a package was built against (some kind of revdep-scan
   between compile and merge)
* with that information the package management can do an smooth
   upgrade (w/o temporary breaks until revdep-rebuild finished)


cu
   


This may be something you should post on -dev.  They are the ones that 
handle this sort of thing.


Things are better there but take a flack jacket.  Never hurts to have 
one just in case you need it.  ;-)


Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] Re: Stable users: libpng-1.4

2010-07-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-07-04, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Run lafilefixer --justfixit and then revdep-rebuild -v -i.  You may have to 
 rinse and repeat more than once.

I had to uninstall a several dozen packages before revep-rebuild would
work.  After libpng updated, revdep-rebuild choked becuase emerge was
unable to determine the order to rebuild packages.  After 2-3 hours of
unstalling, revdep rebuild finally ran, and then there were several
more hours of reinstalling XFCE, gtk, and so on.  I finally got things
going again, but it wasn't fun.

-- 
Grant





[gentoo-user] Re: Stable users: libpng-1.4

2010-07-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-07-04, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Philip Webb wrote:
 100704 Dale wrote:

 My KDE wouldn't start either.  Actually, kdm wouldn't start.
 Sort of have to have one to get to the other.
 I didn't like the idea of not having my GUI either.
  
 That's why I stopped using a GUI login many years ago (smile).
 I login to a raw terminal, then 'startx': avoids lots of troubles.

 Wouldn't help if KDE wouldn't load tho.

The point is that if you always start with a text login, it's easy to
log in and fix whatever keeps X/KDE from working.  That's why I gave
up on graphical logins about 15 years ago.

-- 
Grant




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] How to capture a screen video?

2010-07-04 Thread Mick
On Sunday 04 July 2010 20:27:20 Blackdream W wrote:
 ffmpeg or recordmydesktop.
 
 I think google is ur best friend.[?]

Thanks, I'll look further into ffmpeg in the first instance.

PS. Google is only as good as your ability to find the terms by which you 
should be searching.  I understand they are working hard on reading our 
thoughts.
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Mick


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