Re: [gentoo-user] swap usage creeping up
nothing unusual there, except for the swap usage itself. 'top' doesn't show any large apps. sorted by mem the top 4 are: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 8318 iain 20 0 494m 150m 21m S0 5.0 1:20.67 evolution 20424 iain 20 0 342m 77m 30m S0 2.5 0:01.84 firefox 8009 root 20 0 83364 37m 6260 S7 1.2 38:34.31 X 8090 iain 20 0 159m 32m 1600 S1 1.1 3:48.08 skype Hm, I just noticed Mem is in %. % of what? % total or % used? Even if it was % of total RAM that could be as much as 152Mb for evo and 76Mb for firefox. Not that much really. Divide VIRT by its percentage, then divide RES by its percentage, when the numbers match you know which one it is. So it looks like its RES to me by just looking at it. Did you RTFMan page?
Re: [gentoo-user] swap usage creeping up
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Iain Buchanan iai...@netspace.net.au wrote: Hi, over the last week or so I've noticed unusually large swap usage. I usually hibernate this laptop and have uptimes up to 12 days so apps can run for a long time. I don't usually use any swap space (except for a few k). If I swapoff and swapon, the usage falls back to zero but then creeps up again over a few days. $ free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 3040 859 2181 0 38 415 -/+ buffers/cache: 406 2634 Swap: 494 431 62 Looking at above values 494MB does not seem to be enough for hibernation. Do you add extra swap or close some apps before hibernation? If your system trying to fill up your swap while you have more than 2GB of main memory available, only thing I can think of is your swapiness is set very high. You check and alter is as follows $ cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness and # echo N /proc/sys/vm/swappiness where N is a value between 0 and 100. Higher number means more swapping. If I had 3GB of ram I would set it to something closer to 0 or even 0 if I am just gonna use it for hibernation. nothing unusual there, except for the swap usage itself. 'top' doesn't show any large apps. sorted by mem the top 4 are: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 8318 iain 20 0 494m 150m 21m S 0 5.0 1:20.67 evolution 20424 iain 20 0 342m 77m 30m S 0 2.5 0:01.84 firefox 8009 root 20 0 83364 37m 6260 S 7 1.2 38:34.31 X 8090 iain 20 0 159m 32m 1600 S 1 1.1 3:48.08 skype Hm, I just noticed Mem is in %. % of what? % total or % used? Even if it was % of total RAM that could be as much as 152Mb for evo and 76Mb for firefox. Not that much really. % of total main memory excluding swap because its rather difficult to take it into account. 3040*0.05 = 152 evolution any ideas? You can try to view swap usage on top by pressing f then p and enter and sort by it by F then P and enter. The values wont be very realistic though. Alternatively you could try is to compare resident memory usages before and after swapoff. Given the mem usage of your apps, total mem usage looks normal. What does not seem normal is that swap inclined mem usage. Seriously take a look at your swapiness value. The default value cannot be right every particular case. thanks :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Chuck Norris once skewered a man with the Eiffel tower. -- Fatih
Re: [gentoo-user] swap usage creeping up
On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 17:16 +1100, Adam Carter wrote: So it looks like its RES to me by just looking at it. Did you RTFMan page? for top? no. I should add I wasn't sorting by the RES field, even though that's in the top listing. -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Snake: Adios-s-s, dos amigos-s-s!
Re: [gentoo-user] swap usage creeping up
Hi, On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 09:30 +0300, Fatih Tümen wrote: Looking at above values 494MB does not seem to be enough for hibernation. Do you add extra swap or close some apps before hibernation? Tuxonice filewriter :) $ ls -alh /suspend_file -rw--- 1 root root 1001M May 17 12:02 /suspend_file If your system trying to fill up your swap while you have more than 2GB of main memory available, only thing I can think of is your swapiness is set very high. You check and alter is as follows has it changed in recent kernels? I'm looking for the reason for the change in behaviour... useful though, thanks :) Seriously take a look at your swapiness value. The default value cannot be right every particular case. it's 60. That seems a little high based on what you told me, but I have no reference value to compare it to from 2-3 weeks ago. I'll set it lower and watch... thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Calculon: I was all of history's great acting robots: Acting Unit 0.8, Thespo-mat, David Duchovny!
Re: [gentoo-user] swap usage creeping up
Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi, over the last week or so I've noticed unusually large swap usage. I usually hibernate this laptop and have uptimes up to 12 days so apps can run for a long time. I don't usually use any swap space (except for a few k). If I swapoff and swapon, the usage falls back to zero but then creeps up again over a few days. $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 3040859 2181 0 38415 -/+ buffers/cache:406 2634 Swap: 494431 62 nothing unusual there, except for the swap usage itself. 'top' doesn't show any large apps. sorted by mem the top 4 are: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 8318 iain 20 0 494m 150m 21m S0 5.0 1:20.67 evolution 20424 iain 20 0 342m 77m 30m S0 2.5 0:01.84 firefox 8009 root 20 0 83364 37m 6260 S7 1.2 38:34.31 X 8090 iain 20 0 159m 32m 1600 S1 1.1 3:48.08 skype Hm, I just noticed Mem is in %. % of what? % total or % used? Even if it was % of total RAM that could be as much as 152Mb for evo and 76Mb for firefox. Not that much really. any ideas? thanks :) I ran into this a while back and noticed that a setting got changed and I didn't know about it. Still no idea what changed it but you can check the setting with this: r...@smoker / # cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness 20 r...@smoker / # The lower the number, the less often it will use swap. I have swap on some slow drives and 2Gbs of ram so I don't want swap used unless it will keep me from crashing. You can use echo to change the setting and I actually added this to rc.conf to set it at bootup: echo 20 /proc/sys/vm/swappiness May not be the problem but worth checking into at least. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] swap usage creeping up
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Iain Buchanan iai...@netspace.net.au wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 09:30 +0300, Fatih Tümen wrote: Looking at above values 494MB does not seem to be enough for hibernation. Do you add extra swap or close some apps before hibernation? Tuxonice filewriter :) $ ls -alh /suspend_file -rw--- 1 root root 1001M May 17 12:02 /suspend_file Ah, hadn't thought of that, thanks. -- Fatih
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
Am Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:34:58 +0930 schrieb Iain Buchanan iai...@netspace.net.au: [...] Someone posted recently about an upgrade that affected him (looking... can't find it). He downgraded to fix it, but it wasn't nvidia or x from memory. Sorry for being vague, I'll keep looking. Ah, I seem to remember the problem was/is mesa 7.8.2 being slow, in which case a downgrade helped. Was that it? I can't find the thread myself right now, though. -- Marc Joliet signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] bluetooth audio
Am Fri, 22 Oct 2010 01:11:35 +
schrieb James j...@nc.rr.com:
Also, the a2dp thing has me pulling my hair out. Is the *only* way to
use a2dp with pulseaudio? Is there no way to simply redirect all audio
to the bluetooth headset?
Anyone who can toss some experience in my direction would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks!
-james
It is possible to setup alsa using bluetooth:
Add to ~/.asoundrc (if it doesn't exist just create it)
pcm.bluetooth {
type bluetooth
device 11:22:33:44:55:66
}
(replace 11:22:33:44:55:66 with the actual
address of the bluetooth headset). Sound can now be directed to the
headset via the alsa device bluetooth, e.g.:
ogg123 -d alsa -o dev:bluetooth
Some GUI application doesn't show that device in their configuration
dialogue. vlc is an example of this behaviour, but it is possible to
make vlc use it by manually editing the configuration file.
You can also make the bluetooth device the standard device by
pcm.!default {
type bluetooth
device 11:22:33:44:55:66
}
It is a long time since I made that setup, so I can't say if it will
work out of the box. But it is possible to avoid pulseaudio. I hope it
will help.
Best regards
Christian
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[gentoo-user] Laptop
Hi, I want to buy a laptop Asus N series, but could anybody tell me if its possible to use it with Gentoo-Linux? And in case of yes, if it's a good choice? Thank you Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 11:18 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:34:58 +0930 schrieb Iain Buchanan iai...@netspace.net.au: [...] Someone posted recently about an upgrade that affected him (looking... can't find it). He downgraded to fix it, but it wasn't nvidia or x from memory. Sorry for being vague, I'll keep looking. Ah, I seem to remember the problem was/is mesa 7.8.2 being slow, in which case a downgrade helped. Was that it? I can't find the thread myself right now, though. That's it! mesa tinka yousa system broken! 7.8.2 down to 7.7.1 worked for the OP: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/234610 Preventing a package from being updated thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Chuck Norris doesnt wear a watch, HE decides what time it is.
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?
You're probably thinking of this:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256188
It's a relatively rare bug, but it is quite annoying when it does happen.
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
There are three blockers holding baselayout-2/openrc back, none of them affect
you:
1. {something rare, I forget}
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:03 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, Roger Cahn did opine thusly: Hi, I want to buy a laptop Asus N series, but could anybody tell me if its possible to use it with Gentoo-Linux? And in case of yes, if it's a good choice? Thank you Roger Does it have Intel cpus? Then you can use it. Will it work with the supplied wifi card? I haven't the foggiest clue mostly as I don't know what card it has. To get a sensible answer on a question like that, you MUST supply the entire spec of all the hardware you intend to buy. Only then can people offer an opinion on how good or otherwise the drivers are. The way you composed that mail, everyone else will need to do the research on the hardware for you. Most of us would rather you did that bit yourself. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:01 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, Iain Buchanan did opine thusly: On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 11:18 +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:34:58 +0930 schrieb Iain Buchanan iai...@netspace.net.au: [...] Someone posted recently about an upgrade that affected him (looking... can't find it). He downgraded to fix it, but it wasn't nvidia or x from memory. Sorry for being vague, I'll keep looking. Ah, I seem to remember the problem was/is mesa 7.8.2 being slow, in which case a downgrade helped. Was that it? I can't find the thread myself right now, though. That's it! mesa tinka yousa system broken! 7.8.2 down to 7.7.1 worked for the OP: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/234610 Preventing a package from being updated Can someone who hit this and cured it describe the symptoms seen? I might have the same issue but it's a lot of rebuilding. I might just be suffering from the recent 2.6.33 - 2.6.35 IO issues. Throw stuff at wall doesn't strike me as an effective troubleshooting method :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout -- openrc ?
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:39 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, Dean Matzkov
did opine thusly:
You're probably thinking of this:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256188
It's a relatively rare bug, but it is quite annoying when it does happen.
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
There are three blockers holding baselayout-2/openrc back, none of them
affect you:
1. {something rare, I forget}
No, not that one. That makes 4 :-)
But good to know about this bug, I also hit it occasionally.
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Iain Buchanan iai...@netspace.net.au wrote: I'm having issues with the latest mix of nvidia-drivers, xorg, and whatever else it might be! I'm getting bad performance when switching virtual dekstops and moving windows and such. GL screensavers seem to be ok though. Same here. My fast desktop with Core i7 920, Nvidia GX 240, has a slower KDE UI than my 6-year-old laptop that has AMD Athlon 3200+ and ATI Radeon Mobility 9700. Simply opening a konsole window on my desktop with compositing enabled can take 2-3 seconds, when it is instant on the laptop. People have been complaining about it for years, KDE and nvidia-drivers don't always get along with each other. The usual answer is that it works with Intel and ATI cards, and Nvidia's drivers are closed-source, so nobody can guess what the problem is and all we can do is hope Nvidia in their ivory tower can one day bless us with an update that makes things better. And then of course there are people who have Nvidia cards and everything works great and they don't know what the complainers are talking about. :) In my personal experience, on my Nvidia machine KDE 4.2 was the fastest, and it has gotten slower with each subsequent KDE release (with 4.5 being the worst one yet - so bad that I've disabled compositing entirely). Or maybe it has gotten slower with each nvidia-drivers release over the same period of time, I can't say. Maybe it is all a coincidence. However, on my old laptop with xorg radeon drivers, it has been getting faster with each KDE release, with KDE 4.5 is the fastest one yet. Both machines run latest everything on ~amd64. The only significant configuration difference between the two is nvidia-drivers vs radeon.
[gentoo-user] Photographs of Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:03 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, Roger Cahn did opine thusly: Hi, I want to buy a laptop Asus N series, but could anybody tell me if its possible to use it with Gentoo-Linux? And in case of yes, if it's a good choice? Thank you Roger Does it have Intel cpus? Then you can use it. Will it work with the supplied wifi card? I haven't the foggiest clue mostly as I don't know what card it has. To get a sensible answer on a question like that, you MUST supply the entire spec of all the hardware you intend to buy. Only then can people offer an opinion on how good or otherwise the drivers are. The way you composed that mail, everyone else will need to do the research on the hardware for you. Most of us would rather you did that bit yourself. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com If you are able to run on a laptop like this the commands: lspci cat /proc/cpuinfo It will give a good insight of the spec of this laptop. I would take with me a live gentoo cd and try to run it on this laptop in the store. One more thing, If the wireless card is not supported, I think that you can buy one that is supported by linux for 30$. Just make sure you know how to change the cards. Reagards, Kfir
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
On Tuesday 26 October 2010 02:48:03 Dale wrote: r...@smoker / # glxinfo r...@smoker / # glxgears Would someone tell me which package has these two programs? The bit of poking about that I've done doesn't find them. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
On 10/26/10, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Tuesday 26 October 2010 02:48:03 Dale wrote: r...@smoker / # glxinfo r...@smoker / # glxgears Would someone tell me which package has these two programs? The bit of poking about that I've done doesn't find them. ~ $ equery belongs glxinfo [ Searching for file(s) glxinfo in *... ] x11-apps/mesa-progs-7.7 (/usr/bin/glxinfo) ~ $ equery belongs glxgears [ Searching for file(s) glxgears in *... ] x11-apps/mesa-progs-7.7 (/usr/bin/glxgears -- Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors
[gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: emerge -avuND world rebuild everything related to kde-base. Device notifier is back, but you have to click on the icon (on the panel bar) to get it to 'pop up' the app. On all the other system it does this automatically. Device Notifier configured the same on all system. I cannot find witch ebuild has (plasmoid?) device notifier in it. part of knotify?dunno? USE flags: USE=mmx mmxext sse sse2 sse3 3dnow 3dnowext \ X alsa amd64 avi berkdb bitmap-fonts cairo cdr cli crypt cups \ -arts dbus dlloader dri dvdr eds elibc_glibc emboss encode esd fam \ fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 hal dvd wireshark wddx \ input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse ipv6 jpeg kde vdr sockets \ kernel_linux ldap libg++ mad mikmod mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl nptlonly \ ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png ppds pppd python qt3 qt4 quicktime \ readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl truetype truetype-fonts \ type1-fonts udev unicode userland_GNU vorbis xml xorg xv java slp \ dvb a52 aac aalib asf dts flac v4l v4l2 vcd win32codecs real x264 \ ffmpeg xvid acpi divx jack tiff mplayer usb ppds mjpeg lm_sensors xine \ libcaca mng snmp imagemagick wmf dvdread lzo bl syslog css musepack \ async gimpprint logitech-mouse mysql postgres gd pcre png dv zvbi \ gmedia realmedia wmp aiglx pdf seamonkey live theora mozdevelop svg \ mp4 wav examples source cddb corba apache2 tk jpeg2k gs pvr nsplugin xvmc \ webkit qt3support sql \ corefonts wma gnutls http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/3895/diff/ Maybe this is my problem? I've rebuild the entire kde/base collection. Ideas? James
[gentoo-user] HP Deskjet 3050 no output - no error
Hi list! I could need some help here: I've bought an HP Deskjet 3050 USB printer/scanner. Copying works but printing doesn't. The first odd thing is that the HPLIP application (its qt4-frontend) doesn't detect the device although dmesg shows a correct identification on USB. However, the ordinary CUPS web interface allows me to configure the printer. It is correctly detected there. Then I've selected the default (and only) deskjet.ppd file. My problem is: When I print, no error is shown but there is also no output on the printer. There is no reaction at all. The logs are also clean. I've tried the same thing with Ubuntu netbook edition. There the printer was detected (by whatever GUI they use, I guess it was GNOME's). The application then told me it had no compatible drivers. It had drivers for a lot of similar HP deskjets and since I guess they all have the basically same interface, I've chosen one of them. Again, there was no reaction at all. CUPS seems to think the jobs finished successfully. Can anyone give me a pointer to a solution? Do I need to configure the printer in Windows before it reacts? By the way: The device is reported to have perfect linux support in the various printer databases ... Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:24 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Iain Buchanan iai...@netspace.net.au wrote: I'm having issues with the latest mix of nvidia-drivers, xorg, and whatever else it might be! I'm getting bad performance when switching virtual dekstops and moving windows and such. GL screensavers seem to be ok though. Same here. My fast desktop with Core i7 920, Nvidia GX 240, has a slower KDE UI than my 6-year-old laptop that has AMD Athlon 3200+ and ATI Radeon Mobility 9700. Simply opening a konsole window on my desktop with compositing enabled can take 2-3 seconds, when it is instant on the laptop. Let me weep on your shoulder with you. This laptop has a pair of these: vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 23 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9300 @ 2.50GHz 4G RAM, 1920x1200 screen and this video card: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600M GT] (rev a1) and nvidia-drivers-260.19.12 KDE performance is pathetic especially with compositing enabled. It was really bad sometime around 4.3 with that screw up in the driver for resizing windows. Some releases are better, some worse. I'm getting disheartened trying to figure out what to downgrade: mesa, xorg, drivers, kde A colleague has the identical machine running Ubuntu. Gnome flies on that. I don't want to go to Ubuntu - I detest it on a laptop and detest Gnome even more. I might go back to e17 and just put up with the reduced desktop functionality. People have been complaining about it for years, KDE and nvidia-drivers don't always get along with each other. The usual answer is that it works with Intel and ATI cards, and Nvidia's drivers are closed-source, so nobody can guess what the problem is and all we can do is hope Nvidia in their ivory tower can one day bless us with an update that makes things better. And then of course there are people who have Nvidia cards and everything works great and they don't know what the complainers are talking about. :) In my personal experience, on my Nvidia machine KDE 4.2 was the fastest, and it has gotten slower with each subsequent KDE release (with 4.5 being the worst one yet - so bad that I've disabled compositing entirely). Or maybe it has gotten slower with each nvidia-drivers release over the same period of time, I can't say. Maybe it is all a coincidence. However, on my old laptop with xorg radeon drivers, it has been getting faster with each KDE release, with KDE 4.5 is the fastest one yet. Both machines run latest everything on ~amd64. The only significant configuration difference between the two is nvidia-drivers vs radeon. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:35 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, James did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: emerge -avuND world rebuild everything related to kde-base. Device notifier is back, but you have to click on the icon (on the panel bar) to get it to 'pop up' the app. On all the other system it does this automatically. Device Notifier configured the same on all system. configured the same - do you mean when you get with right-click tray-icon - Device Notifier Settings? I cannot find witch ebuild has (plasmoid?) device notifier in it. part of knotify?dunno? I beleive it's /usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so which is in plasma-workspace: $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so * Searching for /usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so ... kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.5.2 (/usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so) There's nothing in that ebuild to indicate conditionals or DEPENDs. near the top of CMake builds you will find a list of all the stuff the build system found to support and what it didn't. Is that list the same on all machines? USE flags: USE=mmx mmxext sse sse2 sse3 3dnow 3dnowext \ X alsa amd64 avi berkdb bitmap-fonts cairo cdr cli crypt cups \ -arts dbus dlloader dri dvdr eds elibc_glibc emboss encode esd fam \ fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 hal dvd wireshark wddx \ input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse ipv6 jpeg kde vdr sockets \ kernel_linux ldap libg++ mad mikmod mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl nptlonly \ ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png ppds pppd python qt3 qt4 quicktime \ readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl truetype truetype-fonts \ type1-fonts udev unicode userland_GNU vorbis xml xorg xv java slp \ dvb a52 aac aalib asf dts flac v4l v4l2 vcd win32codecs real x264 \ ffmpeg xvid acpi divx jack tiff mplayer usb ppds mjpeg lm_sensors xine \ libcaca mng snmp imagemagick wmf dvdread lzo bl syslog css musepack \ async gimpprint logitech-mouse mysql postgres gd pcre png dv zvbi \ gmedia realmedia wmp aiglx pdf seamonkey live theora mozdevelop svg \ mp4 wav examples source cddb corba apache2 tk jpeg2k gs pvr nsplugin xvmc \ webkit qt3support sql \ corefonts wma gnutls http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/3895/diff/ Maybe this is my problem? I've rebuild the entire kde/base collection. Ideas? James -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Fluxbox and using kdm
Hi, I'm installing fluxbox, got it emerged so far, and am trying to figure out a couple things. Here it is in a nutshell. I use KDE but want a back up in case a upgrade goes bad. I'm wanting to set it up so that I can select fluxbox in kdm when I login but I also want to know how to start fluxbox even if kdm doesn't work. I'm thinking kdm will just magically see fluxbox and offer the option but haven't' logged out to test the theory yet. Is starting fluxbox without kdm as easy as typing startfluxbox in a console as a user? Surely it can't be that easy. Somebody help me clear up the mud a bit. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox and using kdm
101026 Dale wrote: I'm installing fluxbox, got it emerged. I use KDE but want a back up in case a upgrade goes bad. I want to select fluxbox in kdm when I login but also know how to start fluxbox even if kdm doesn't work. Why not eschew Kdm altogether ? -- just use 'startx' + ~/.xinitrc : # PP 091002 : for Fluxbox-1.1.1 + KDE 4 xscreensaver kdeinit4 startfluxbox Fluxbox mb the most under-rated piece of software in the Linux universe. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox and using kdm
On 2010/10/26 07:29PM, Dale wrote: Is starting fluxbox without kdm as easy as typing startfluxbox in a console as a user? Surely it can't be that easy. No, since X has to be started first. X creates windows, but just puts them all on top of each other, with no way to move them, and no way to switch between them except by clicking. Fluxbox just runs ontop of X, and manages it's windows, adding decorations and a sane way to control them. For example, try doing: xinit xterm -e /bin/bash -- /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp and run fluxbox from the xterm. It's just a layer ontop of an already running X. You should be able to start fluxbox from a console with just: startx /usr/bin/startfluxbox which overrides the default /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc script. That should basically create an xauthority file and run xinit, which in turn starts X, then fluxbox, and waits for fluxbox to exit so it can shutdown X nicely. Regards, Vincent. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox and using kdm
Vincent Launchbury wrote: On 2010/10/26 07:29PM, Dale wrote: Is starting fluxbox without kdm as easy as typing startfluxbox in a console as a user? Surely it can't be that easy. No, since X has to be started first. X creates windows, but just puts them all on top of each other, with no way to move them, and no way to switch between them except by clicking. Fluxbox just runs ontop of X, and manages it's windows, adding decorations and a sane way to control them. For example, try doing: xinit xterm -e /bin/bash -- /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp and run fluxbox from the xterm. It's just a layer ontop of an already running X. You should be able to start fluxbox from a console with just: startx /usr/bin/startfluxbox which overrides the default /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc script. That should basically create an xauthority file and run xinit, which in turn starts X, then fluxbox, and waits for fluxbox to exit so it can shutdown X nicely. Regards, Vincent. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) I'll give that a try. That is what I am looking for. I once had kdm to fail on me during a KDE upgrade. I think it was a version mismatch of some kind because later on as it emerged more packages, ir worked fine. So, I'm looking to make sure it works with kdm, which it does, and without kdm, which I am about to find out. Thanks much. Dale :-) :-)
