Re: [gentoo-user]How can i remove the xfce clearly?
Am 21.04.2012 05:27, schrieb 赵佳晖: I just install the xfce a few days ago, But i find i didn't like it . So i want to remove it and install the Gnome . How can i remove the xfce clearly ? -- 好好学习，天天向上！！！ Gnome and Xfce share many libraries. Therefore it is best to install Gnome first, before removing Xfce. Otherwise you will remove libraries which you will later re-emerge for Gnome. Then you need to configure your display manager (kdm, gdm, xdm) to use Gnome instead of Xfce. Kdm and Gdm should allow you to do that directly on the login screen. When you are satisfied with Gnome, edit /var/lib/portage/world and remove every line containing an Xfce package. Then run `emerge -av --depclean` and you are done. You could continue to remove config files but that is usually not worth the trouble. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] changed motherboard, no AHCI
120421 pk wrote: On 2012-04-21 04:12, Philip Webb wrote: It's an Asus P5G41T-M LX the manual says : the chipset on that mobo is G41 (released in 2008) and it combines with ICH7 which unfortunately doesn't seem to support AHCI. That's important to hear, but it can't be a show-stopper, as the 3 other Linux distro's I've mentioned have no problem. I tried compiling AHCI as [M], which is what Mandriva + Ubuntu do, but it makes no difference. There must be some other setting their kernels use to identify the drive, which mine doesn't have set. Can anyone suggest what other settings to try ? I've looked at their kernel .config files, but nothing jumps out. At least, I've managed to compile + install a kernel in a chroot using System Rescue, which I hadn't done before ! -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user]How can i remove the xfce clearly?
Thank you for your answer , Philipp .I will tried it later 在 2012年4月21日 下午3:45，Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net写道： Am 21.04.2012 05:27, schrieb 赵佳晖: I just install the xfce a few days ago, But i find i didn't like it . So i want to remove it and install the Gnome . How can i remove the xfce clearly ? -- 好好学习，天天向上！！！ Gnome and Xfce share many libraries. Therefore it is best to install Gnome first, before removing Xfce. Otherwise you will remove libraries which you will later re-emerge for Gnome. Then you need to configure your display manager (kdm, gdm, xdm) to use Gnome instead of Xfce. Kdm and Gdm should allow you to do that directly on the login screen. When you are satisfied with Gnome, edit /var/lib/portage/world and remove every line containing an Xfce package. Then run `emerge -av --depclean` and you are done. You could continue to remove config files but that is usually not worth the trouble. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp -- 好好学习，天天向上！！！
Re: [gentoo-user] changed motherboard, no AHCI
pk pete...@coolmail.se writes: On 2012-04-21 04:12, Philip Webb wrote: It's an Asus P5G41T-M LX the manual says : Hm... the chipset on that mobo is G41 (released in 2008) and it combines with ICH7 which unfortunately doesn't seem to support AHCI. Sorry... If it is an ICH which does not support AHCI, then try the option for Intel ESB, ICH, PIIX3, PIIX4 PATA/SATA Support which generates the PIIX driver.
Re: [gentoo-user] changed motherboard, no AHCI
On 04/21/2012 10:02:26 AM, Philip Webb wrote: 120421 pk wrote: On 2012-04-21 04:12, Philip Webb wrote: It's an Asus P5G41T-M LX the manual says : the chipset on that mobo is G41 (released in 2008) and it combines with ICH7 which unfortunately doesn't seem to support AHCI. That's important to hear, but it can't be a show-stopper, as the 3 other Linux distro's I've mentioned have no problem. I tried compiling AHCI as [M], which is what Mandriva + Ubuntu do, but it makes no difference. There must be some other setting their kernels use to identify the drive, which mine doesn't have set. Can anyone suggest what other settings to try ? I've looked at their kernel .config files, but nothing jumps out. At least, I've managed to compile + install a kernel in a chroot using System Rescue, which I hadn't done before ! Boot your system e.g. with SystemRescueCD then do lspci -k this shows you which module is in use. Then build your own kernel with this module. Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user]How can i remove the xfce clearly?
On Saturday 21 Apr 2012 08:45:49 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 21.04.2012 05:27, schrieb 赵佳晖: I just install the xfce a few days ago, But i find i didn't like it . So i want to remove it and install the Gnome . How can i remove the xfce clearly ? Gnome and Xfce share many libraries. Therefore it is best to install Gnome first, before removing Xfce. Otherwise you will remove libraries which you will later re-emerge for Gnome. Then you need to configure your display manager (kdm, gdm, xdm) to use Gnome instead of Xfce. Kdm and Gdm should allow you to do that directly on the login screen. When you are satisfied with Gnome, edit /var/lib/portage/world and remove every line containing an Xfce package. Then run `emerge -av --depclean` and you are done. You could continue to remove config files but that is usually not worth the trouble. Also, follow the advice on the screen when you run 'emerge --depclean -p' which is to run revdep-rebuild afterward to rebuild any dependencies. Such dependencies may have been broken from uninstalling packages with depclean, (man revdep-rebuild gives you more information). -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] changed motherboard, no AHCI [SOLVED]
120421 Graham Murray wrote: pk pete...@coolmail.se writes: On 2012-04-21 04:12, Philip Webb wrote: It's an Asus P5G41T-M LX the manual says : the chipset on that mobo is G41 (released in 2008) and it combines with ICH7 which unfortunately doesn't seem to support AHCI. If it is an ICH which does not support AHCI, then try the option for Intel ESB, ICH, PIIX3, PIIX4 PATA/SATA Support which generates the PIIX driver. Thanks enormously ! -- that's the solution (ATA_PIIX). I'm surprised that the newer mobo (G41) dropped support for AHCI which the older mobo (G33) had, but it shouldn't make much difference I'm planning to build an upto-date machine later in the year. So I'm now able to operate normally in the 2007 machine, but it still has a problem with Eth0, which hopefully wb easier to fix: this is being sent from the 2003 machine, which chugs along adequately. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] changed motherboard, no AHCI [SOLVED]
On Apr 21, 2012 5:26 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 120421 Graham Murray wrote: pk pete...@coolmail.se writes: On 2012-04-21 04:12, Philip Webb wrote: It's an Asus P5G41T-M LX the manual says : the chipset on that mobo is G41 (released in 2008) and it combines with ICH7 which unfortunately doesn't seem to support AHCI. If it is an ICH which does not support AHCI, then try the option for Intel ESB, ICH, PIIX3, PIIX4 PATA/SATA Support which generates the PIIX driver. Thanks enormously ! -- that's the solution (ATA_PIIX). I'm surprised that the newer mobo (G41) dropped support for AHCI which the older mobo (G33) had, but it shouldn't make much difference I'm planning to build an upto-date machine later in the year. That's Intel for you. Similar situation with their CPUs. I always feel depressed if I have to purchase an Intel CPU. Feature support (e.g. VT-x) are not guaranteed to exist, even when the CPU is a new one. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user]How can i remove the xfce clearly?
OK，Thank you 在 2012年4月21日 下午5:20，Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com写道： On Saturday 21 Apr 2012 08:45:49 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 21.04.2012 05:27, schrieb 赵佳晖: I just install the xfce a few days ago, But i find i didn't like it . So i want to remove it and install the Gnome . How can i remove the xfce clearly ? Gnome and Xfce share many libraries. Therefore it is best to install Gnome first, before removing Xfce. Otherwise you will remove libraries which you will later re-emerge for Gnome. Then you need to configure your display manager (kdm, gdm, xdm) to use Gnome instead of Xfce. Kdm and Gdm should allow you to do that directly on the login screen. When you are satisfied with Gnome, edit /var/lib/portage/world and remove every line containing an Xfce package. Then run `emerge -av --depclean` and you are done. You could continue to remove config files but that is usually not worth the trouble. Also, follow the advice on the screen when you run 'emerge --depclean -p' which is to run revdep-rebuild afterward to rebuild any dependencies. Such dependencies may have been broken from uninstalling packages with depclean, (man revdep-rebuild gives you more information). -- Regards, Mick -- 好好学习，天天向上！！！
[gentoo-user] new mobo : no Eth0
Having solved the problem of booting -- thanks for all the advice -- , the next hopefully remaining obstacle is that Dhcpcd can't find Eth0. I've used 'lspci | grep Eth', which gives Realtek Semiconductor RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06), so I enabled CONFIG_REALTEK_PHY in the kernel, but no improvement. 'syslog' lists Gigabit Ethernet Driver loading ... eth0 : RTL8168e/8111e ... : do those e's make a difference ? The mobo manual mentions LAN RJ45 PCIe Gigabit LAN; a mobo review via Google mentions LAN: Qualcomm Atheros Gb LAN. The mobo is P5G41T-M LX PLUS by Asus. Does anyone have suggestions ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] new mobo : no Eth0
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:
Having solved the problem of booting -- thanks for all the advice -- ,
the next hopefully remaining obstacle is that Dhcpcd can't find Eth0.
I've used 'lspci | grep Eth', which gives Realtek Semiconductor
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06),
so I enabled CONFIG_REALTEK_PHY in the kernel, but no improvement.
'syslog' lists Gigabit Ethernet Driver loading ...
eth0 : RTL8168e/8111e ... : do those e's make a difference ?
The mobo manual mentions LAN RJ45 PCIe Gigabit LAN;
a mobo review via Google mentions LAN: Qualcomm Atheros Gb LAN.
The mobo is P5G41T-M LX PLUS by Asus.
Does anyone have suggestions ?
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
Find the line that includes ( NAME=eth0 ) ... then find the part of
that line that says ATTR{address}==whatever-your-MAC-address-is, and
change it to reflect the MAC address of your onboard NIC.
--
:wq
Re: [gentoo-user] new mobo : no Eth0
Does anyone have suggestions ? Your logs show that the interface is being detected and is named 'eth0'. If you can't see eth0 at the end of the boot process, the device node has probably been renamed by udev (you should see it as eth1, e.g. in the output of ifconfig -a). So: # rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot andrea
Re: [gentoo-user] new mobo : no Eth0
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:07:49 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
Find the line that includes ( NAME=eth0 ) ... then find the part of
that line that says ATTR{address}==whatever-your-MAC-address-is, and
change it to reflect the MAC address of your onboard NIC.
Or, if you have only one NIC, delete the file and it will be recreated
with the correct settings on the next reboot.
--
Neil Bothwick
Hors d'oeuvres: 3 sandwiches cut into 40 pieces.
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Re: [gentoo-user] initramfs with lvm
yes，and I already boot up successfully 2012/4/21 Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org On 04/19/2012 03:56 AM, 林守磊 wrote: I get problom with my initramfs.: 1. I used to boot my kernel with genkernel-initramfs, but I must genarate the initramfs again by genkernel. when I change the kernel vernsion. 2. I have the '/' partition created with lvm, when I use genkernel to make the kernel and initramfs( with option --lvm ), the error block device /dev/mapper/vg-gentoo_root is not a valid root device show up. kernel version 3.2.2 Do you have dolvm in the kernel boot options? That's needed. Best, Sebastian
[gentoo-user] new mobo : Eth0 recovered
Thanks again for the help : I'm now back in my 2007 machine able to send e-mails. You actually have to remove the offensive file from the dir, not simply rename it to 'xx70xx...' ! Between Intel Udev, I'm feeling somewhat abused today, but Gentoo User mailing-list came thro' yet again : I hope I sometimes manage to help others with similar problems. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] new mobo : Eth0 recovered
Philip Webb wrote: Thanks again for the help : I'm now back in my 2007 machine able to send e-mails. You actually have to remove the offensive file from the dir, not simply rename it to 'xx70xx...' ! Between Intel Udev, I'm feeling somewhat abused today, but Gentoo User mailing-list came thro' yet again : I hope I sometimes manage to help others with similar problems. That's the same way files in /etc/portage/ works too. I do wish we could put a # on the front to make it ignore files. We can dream I guess. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] new mobo : Eth0 recovered
120421 Dale wrote: Philip Webb wrote: You actually have to remove the offensive file from the dir, not simply rename it to 'xx70xx...' ! That's the same way files in /etc/portage/ works too. I do wish we could put a # on the front to make it ignore files. We can dream I guess. Yes why did it start doing this only with the new mobo -- was it provoked by seeing an unknown driver ? And whyever did it want to rename the device to 'eth1' ?? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] I've met strange message when i execute vim
meow@darkcircle ~/xfce-ko $ vi xfdesktop.master.ko.po ** (process:15449): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GMountMountFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags' ** (process:15449): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GDriveStartFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags' ** (process:15449): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GSocketMsgFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags' when I execute vim as above, I've met some messages like that. what does above mean? how can I solve that problem? I did damn googling but I didn't find why that message shown.
Re: [gentoo-user] new mobo : Eth0 recovered
Philip Webb wrote: 120421 Dale wrote: Philip Webb wrote: You actually have to remove the offensive file from the dir, not simply rename it to 'xx70xx...' ! That's the same way files in /etc/portage/ works too. I do wish we could put a # on the front to make it ignore files. We can dream I guess. Yes why did it start doing this only with the new mobo -- was it provoked by seeing an unknown driver ? And whyever did it want to rename the device to 'eth1' ?? I would imagine udev saw something different and renamed it. It's not the first time something like this has happened. I doubt it will be the last either. Udev is hard to predict for sure. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] MAC from IPv6 address. WAS: Re: How to find the MAC address
On 20 April 2012, at 18:21, Michael Mol wrote: … The inet6 address listed is fe80::be5f:f4ff:fe19:ad18 and your MAC is bc:5f:f4:19:ad:18 … be:5f:f4:19:ad:18 Which is your MAC. And then we just convert all incidences of the letter e to c? Is there some rule for this part? Perhaps I'm missing something here. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Re: new mobo : Eth0 recovered
On 21/04/12 17:25, Philip Webb wrote: 120421 Dale wrote: Philip Webb wrote: You actually have to remove the offensive file from the dir, not simply rename it to 'xx70xx...' ! That's the same way files in /etc/portage/ works too. I do wish we could put a # on the front to make it ignore files. We can dream I guess. Yes why did it start doing this only with the new mobo -- was it provoked by seeing an unknown driver ? And whyever did it want to rename the device to 'eth1' ?? So that eth0 still works. It can't know that what you have is a new mobo rather than you having added an additional NIC. Also, make sure to emerge sys-kernel/linux-firmware. Without it, RTL8111/8168B NICs will produce random connectivity hang-ups after a few hours; they need firmware that was previously part of the kernel itself but has now been split to sys-kernel/linux-firmware. Do a: dmesg | grep -i firmware and check for firmware loading errors.
Re: [gentoo-user] I've met strange message when i execute vim
On 21 April 2012, at 15:32, Seong-ho Cho wrote: meow@darkcircle ~/xfce-ko $ vi xfdesktop.master.ko.po ** (process:15449): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GMountMountFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags' ** (process:15449): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GDriveStartFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags' ** (process:15449): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GSocketMsgFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags' when I execute vim as above, I've met some messages like that. what does above mean? how can I solve that problem? I did damn googling but I didn't find why that message shown. I find at least 3 bugs when I google that message. They're Ubuntu bugs, they don't refer to vim, but they make some sense to me. Am I right in thinking that vim does work and allow you to edit this file after showing these messages? Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pambase/shadow warning
On Fri, Apr 20 2012, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:22:20 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: I'll run the update again today, paying more attention, and see what happens. What happened is it broke again, with no obvious signs of the cause. conf-update reported only trivial changes to three files. I've just tried it on my netbook and the same happened, but I think I'm closer to the cause. The three files in /etc/pam.d are login, passwd and su. After updating, there were ._cfg* versions of these files, but no originals, so conf-update just deleted them. It turns out these were owned by shadow but now belong to pambase. I suspect that pambase installed them as ._cfg versions, because the others already existed, then shadow removed the originals as they were no longer part of the package. Whether this is a bug in portage, the ebuilds or conf-update is open to debate, but conf-update ought to handle the situation better. I'll file a bug later if no one beats me to it. First, thanks for the warning. There is a bug filed https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412721 The comments there say that if you run etc-update right after the emerge all is well (but this isn't sufficient for people who use screen, detatch, and log out). Someone also mentioned dispatch-conf working. No one mentioned cfg-update, which I use (and I believe neil does as well). Could the problem be dependent on which configuration file updater one uses? I have not updated my primary machine. I did update another one (both machines are ~amd64) including a cfg-update -q, but have not rebooted it. The secondary can su. This seems to suggest that cfg-update is sufficient in some cases. Am I correct in believing the safe procedure is to add =sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r2 =sys-apps/shadow-4.1.5. to /etc/portage/package.mask (or a file in that directory)? thanks, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] new mobo : Eth0 recovered
On 21 April 2012, at 15:25, Philip Webb wrote: 120421 Dale wrote: Philip Webb wrote: You actually have to remove the offensive file from the dir, not simply rename it to 'xx70xx...' ! That's the same way files in /etc/portage/ works too. I do wish we could put a # on the front to make it ignore files. We can dream I guess. Yes why did it start doing this only with the new mobo -- was it provoked by seeing an unknown driver ? And whyever did it want to rename the device to 'eth1' ?? Because it knows the NIC with the MAC address of 11:22:33:aa:bb:cc always has to be eth0. It found a new NIC, and eth0 wasn't available for the new NIC. So the new NIC was granted the first available etcX allocation. This is a real pain if you insist on thinking about it in terms of I always expect there to be an eth0 or the first card should always be eth0. But if you were to slap a second NIC into the system and - hey! - suddenly the original network card didn't work any more because they've been allocated the wrong way around, then this would make perfect sense to you. I mean, you could find yourself sorting that problem out, then the next time you reboot the two interfaces swap identities again (either randomly or for some obscure reasons that I can imagine) - that's really problematic if the two are now physically connected to different networks the wrong way around and you're firewalled out from them. This applies especially if you're hundreds of miles away from the machine which, from experience, happens far more often than one might wish or imagine (although I guess, to be fair, it only takes 1 or 2 or 3 occasions per decade for this to be far too bleedin' often). It is really freakin' useful to know that an interface number is *always* going to match up with the server's physical socket marked net1. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new mobo : Eth0 recovered
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 21/04/12 17:25, Philip Webb wrote: 120421 Dale wrote: Philip Webb wrote: You actually have to remove the offensive file from the dir, not simply rename it to 'xx70xx...' ! That's the same way files in /etc/portage/ works too. I do wish we could put a # on the front to make it ignore files. We can dream I guess. Yes why did it start doing this only with the new mobo -- was it provoked by seeing an unknown driver ? And whyever did it want to rename the device to 'eth1' ?? So that eth0 still works. It can't know that what you have is a new mobo rather than you having added an additional NIC. Also, make sure to emerge sys-kernel/linux-firmware. Without it, RTL8111/8168B NICs will produce random connectivity hang-ups after a few hours; they need firmware that was previously part of the kernel itself but has now been split to sys-kernel/linux-firmware. Do a: dmesg | grep -i firmware and check for firmware loading errors. So that is what is wrong with my connection. I been having this issue for a while and it is getting on my nerves. Is this fix OK even if you don't build your drivers as modules? I build everything into the kernel. I never did like modules much. This goes to show, it doesn't hurt to read a thread even if you can't help. Thanks Nikos. You helped two people. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] MAC from IPv6 address. WAS: Re: How to find the MAC address
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 20 April 2012, at 18:21, Michael Mol wrote: … The inet6 address listed is fe80::be5f:f4ff:fe19:ad18 and your MAC is bc:5f:f4:19:ad:18 … be:5f:f4:19:ad:18 Which is your MAC. And then we just convert all incidences of the letter e to c? Is there some rule for this part? Perhaps I'm missing something here. Whups. Missed a spot. Thank you for so graciously pointing it out. So, on this laptop, here's the output of ip -6 addr show wlan0 6: wlan0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 4c:ed:de:93:63:a0 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.83.146/27 brd 192.168.83.159 scope global wlan0 inet6 2001:470:c5b9:beef:4eed:deff:fe93:63a0/64 scope global dynamic valid_lft 86100sec preferred_lft 14100sec inet6 fe80::4eed:deff:fe93:63a0/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever So you can see my MAC is 4c:ed:de:93:63:a0 and that I have a couple IPv6 addresses: fe80::4eed:deff:fe93:63a0 2001:470:c5b9:beef:4eed:deff:fe93:63a0 (They look like they have different lengths, but that's because the bits between fe80 and 4eed in the first one are all 0s, and so are collapsed by using ::) Take only the host portion of those addresses, and you get: 4eed:deff:fe93:63a0 Remove the ff:fe from the middle, and redistribute the : delimiters to be every byte. 43:ed:de::93:63:a0 Compare with my MAC: 4c:ed:de:93:63:a0 And, yeah, that second digit is different again. That's because bit 7 is inverted. From RFC4291: Modified EUI-64 format interface identifiers are formed by inverting the u bit (universal/local bit in IEEE EUI-64 terminology) when forming the interface identifier from IEEE EUI-64 identifiers. In the resulting Modified EUI-64 format, the u bit is set to one (1) to indicate universal scope, and it is set to zero (0) to indicate local scope. The first three octets in binary of an IEEE EUI-64 identifier are as follows: 0 0 0 1 1 2 |0 7 8 5 6 3| +++++++ ||ccug||||| +++++++ written in Internet standard bit-order, where u is the universal/local bit, g is the individual/group bit, and c is the bits of the company_id. Appendix A, Creating Modified EUI-64 Format Interface Identifiers, provides examples on the creation of Modified EUI-64 format-based interface identifiers. -- :wq
[gentoo-user] Re: new mobo : Eth0 recovered
On 21/04/12 18:55, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: [...] Also, make sure to emerge sys-kernel/linux-firmware. Without it, RTL8111/8168B NICs will produce random connectivity hang-ups after a few hours; they need firmware that was previously part of the kernel itself but has now been split to sys-kernel/linux-firmware. Do a: dmesg | grep -i firmware and check for firmware loading errors. So that is what is wrong with my connection. I been having this issue for a while and it is getting on my nerves. Is this fix OK even if you don't build your drivers as modules? I build everything into the kernel. I never did like modules much. The kernel source doesn't have any firmware files in it, so it doesn't matter whether you build the drivers into the kernel or as modules; the firmware isn't there in either case. However, this particular driver (r8169), says in its description that building as a module is recommended. However, it doesn't give you any explanation as to why this recommendation is made. I suppose the driver developer was working for Apple previously :-P Anyway, dmesg | grep -i firmware should tell you whether you actually even need the firmware. If you don't get a firmware loading error in dmesg, then you don't need it and your problem is not related. In that case, you belong to the (quite large) group of people for which only the net-misc/r8168 driver works reliably (which unfortunately doesn't always support the latest linux kernel.)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new mobo : Eth0 recovered
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 21/04/12 18:55, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: [...] Also, make sure to emerge sys-kernel/linux-firmware. Without it, RTL8111/8168B NICs will produce random connectivity hang-ups after a few hours; they need firmware that was previously part of the kernel itself but has now been split to sys-kernel/linux-firmware. Do a: dmesg | grep -i firmware and check for firmware loading errors. So that is what is wrong with my connection. I been having this issue for a while and it is getting on my nerves. Is this fix OK even if you don't build your drivers as modules? I build everything into the kernel. I never did like modules much. The kernel source doesn't have any firmware files in it, so it doesn't matter whether you build the drivers into the kernel or as modules; the firmware isn't there in either case. However, this particular driver (r8169), says in its description that building as a module is recommended. However, it doesn't give you any explanation as to why this recommendation is made. I suppose the driver developer was working for Apple previously :-P Anyway, dmesg | grep -i firmware should tell you whether you actually even need the firmware. If you don't get a firmware loading error in dmesg, then you don't need it and your problem is not related. In that case, you belong to the (quite large) group of people for which only the net-misc/r8168 driver works reliably (which unfortunately doesn't always support the latest linux kernel.) Something like this: root@fireball / # dmesg | grep -i firmware [ 10.138253] r8169 :03:00.0: eth0: unable to load firmware patch rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw (-2) root@fireball / # Looks like I found the fix for this problem. Yeppie !! I don't use modules because a long time ago is was recommended not to. So far, I have seen no reason to change that. Sort of like using the init thingy. I may start using modules, when there is good reason to do so. I'm just a old fart that likes the old ways of doing some things. LOL I still don't like the init thingy although I am using one. :/ Thanks much. I can leave google alone now. Dale :-) :-) P. S. dale makes note of that command. May come in handy one day. -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
[gentoo-user] Re: MAC from IPv6 address. WAS: Re: How to find the MAC address
On 2012-04-21, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 20 April 2012, at 18:21, Michael Mol wrote: ? The inet6 address listed is fe80::be5f:f4ff:fe19:ad18 and your MAC is bc:5f:f4:19:ad:18 ? be:5f:f4:19:ad:18 Which is your MAC. And then we just convert all incidences of the letter e to c? Is there some rule for this part? Yes. I answered that question in the original thread. You toggle bit 1 of the first byte of the MAC address when converting to/from an IPv6 LL address. Perhaps I'm missing something here. RFC2464 sections 4 and 5. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I just had my entire at INTESTINAL TRACT coated gmail.comwith TEFLON!
Re: [gentoo-user] I've met strange message when i execute vim
Yes. I can edit text file after these messages. Your thinking is so exact !! :D 2012/4/22 Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk: On 21 April 2012, at 15:32, Seong-ho Cho wrote: meow@darkcircle ~/xfce-ko $ vi xfdesktop.master.ko.po ** (process:15449): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GMountMountFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags' ** (process:15449): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GDriveStartFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags' ** (process:15449): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GSocketMsgFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags' when I execute vim as above, I've met some messages like that. what does above mean? how can I solve that problem? I did damn googling but I didn't find why that message shown. I find at least 3 bugs when I google that message. They're Ubuntu bugs, they don't refer to vim, but they make some sense to me. Am I right in thinking that vim does work and allow you to edit this file after showing these messages? Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Mic works, but doesn't work...
Hi, Ah, for a peaceful Saturday, but I guess not this one... I'm just starting to investigate this but maybe someone's worked on this sort of thing recently? The bottom line is that my mic for conferencing is working, in the sense that with headphones on I can raise the either the 'Front Mic' or 'Front Mic Boost' sliders in the KDE mixer and I hear myself speaking. However none of the applications I use the mic with - either Skype or VirtualBox VMs - are receiving any audio. My main method of testing the mic is the little app in Skype where you make a test call and then it plays it back for you. I do love that sweet sounding English girl who talks to me but I don't hear what I recorded. I haven't used the mic in 2 weeks so I only know it was working 2 Saturday's ago. (We didn't have a conference call last Saturday morning.) The kernel was updated from 3.2.1 to 3.2.12 on April 15th, so that's changed since the mix worked. It seems that /var/lib/alsa/asound.state changed as recently as yesterday. (April 20th) The machine is Gentoo (mostly) stable, and has been since it was built 2 years ago, and is updated nearly every day so anything that changed in the last 2 weeks is a possible candidate for root cause. All other aspect of Alsa are basically working. Everything can play audio. KDE system sounds work. VMs can stream NetFlix, etc. The only thing not working at the app level is the mic. Any ideas where to look? I've not rebooted yet on the off chance this is a one-off hardware problem. I have restarted Alsa but it didn't fix anything. If the reboot doesn't work I'll try dropping back to the previous kernel. In the old days you would sometimes delete asound.state and let Alsa recreate it when you had problems with a new version of Alsa. Anyone know if that's still recommended? Thanks in advance, Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: Mic works, but doesn't work...
On 21/04/12 21:13, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, Ah, for a peaceful Saturday, but I guess not this one... I'm just starting to investigate this but maybe someone's worked on this sort of thing recently? Make sure the mic is selected as the capture source: * Run alsamixer in a terminal. * Press F6 and select your sound card. * Press F4 to get to the capture settings. * From the available inputs, select Mic (left/right arrow keys) and press space to select it as the capture source. Raise the capture volume to maximum (up arrow key.) * Esc. All of this can also be done in KMix if you're on KDE.
[gentoo-user] [OT] Length of a video...
Hi, is there a way to determine the playing length of a video file in minutes without playing the while file? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Length of a video...
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 2:27 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, is there a way to determine the playing length of a video file in minutes without playing the while file? Depends on the file. If the file has an index and/or sufficient metadata, yes. If not, you'll have to decode the sequence of frames and sum each frame's display time. (Videos whose framerate changes halfway through suck...) Either way, I'd suggest looking at 'ffmpeg' manpage. There may be a better tool for your purposes...what's the context? -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user]How can i remove the xfce clearly?
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 09:45:49AM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 21.04.2012 05:27, schrieb ??: I just install the xfce a few days ago, But i find i didn't like it . So i want to remove it and install the Gnome . How can i remove the xfce clearly ? -- Gnome and Xfce share many libraries. Therefore it is best to install Gnome first, before removing Xfce. Otherwise you will remove libraries which you will later re-emerge for Gnome. Then you need to configure your display manager (kdm, gdm, xdm) to use Gnome instead of Xfce. Kdm and Gdm should allow you to do that directly on the login screen. When you are satisfied with Gnome, edit /var/lib/portage/world and remove every line containing an Xfce package. Then run `emerge -av --depclean` and you are done. You could continue to remove config files but that is usually not worth the trouble. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp Do I understand you correctly that it is not necessary to run emerge -unmerge first before removing the atoms from @world and running emerge --depclean? Terry
[gentoo-user] Correct syntax for /etc/conf.d/modules
I am getting confused about the syntax that openrc is meant to follow ...
One box of mine that uses modules ran some script at the time that I upgraded
to openrc and it added my currently running modules into /etc/conf.d/modules.
The syntax was like so:
modules_2_6=${modules_2_6} cls_tcindex
module_cls_tcindex_args_2_6=
Things moved on and with newer kernel versions I went to update the file after
I had a look at the documentation:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml
Well there is no ${modules_2_6} shown in the examples so I removed it from my
/etc/conf.d/modules. The new syntax was now:
modules_3_2=cls_tcindex
and guess what? No modules loaded at all when I reboot. :-/
I had to add ${modules_3_2} in there to get things going again.
However 'echo ${modules_3_2}' on the CLI does not show anything. Can you
please explain why this variable is needed for modules to load up again and
why it is not shown in the documentation?
--
Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mic works, but doesn't work...
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/04/12 21:13, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, Ah, for a peaceful Saturday, but I guess not this one... I'm just starting to investigate this but maybe someone's worked on this sort of thing recently? Make sure the mic is selected as the capture source: * Run alsamixer in a terminal. * Press F6 and select your sound card. * Press F4 to get to the capture settings. * From the available inputs, select Mic (left/right arrow keys) and press space to select it as the capture source. Raise the capture volume to maximum (up arrow key.) * Esc. All of this can also be done in KMix if you're on KDE. Hi Nikos, Right, all done both in KMix as well as alsamixer. No change yet. Capture was already selected and volume up. I tried with Capture1 and Capture2. No change. I tried dropping back to my earlier 3.2.1-gentoo-r2 kernel but that also didn't work. However for some reason it also had a problem with the nvidia driver and to get X I had to do a modules-rebuild -X rebuild so I'm no longer sure what state that's in WRT also. Anyway, 3.2.1 boots, KDE logs in but no microphone audio. That kernel was built on 3/17 so I'm 200% certain the mix worked on that kernel 2 weeks ago. What's strange about this (to me) is that when I'm in the Skype Test Call app (darn I like that English girl in that. Where is she from?) :-) I can tap on the mic and hear the thumps in my headphones so I know the mix works. However I'm not sure if possibly the sound card isn't mixing that directly into the audio output and maybe Alsa is never hearing the mic. Stumped. Going to try the old delete asound.state thing next... Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user]How can i remove the xfce clearly?
On Saturday 21 Apr 2012 19:39:56 ny6...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 09:45:49AM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 21.04.2012 05:27, schrieb ??: I just install the xfce a few days ago, But i find i didn't like it . So i want to remove it and install the Gnome . How can i remove the xfce clearly ? Gnome and Xfce share many libraries. Therefore it is best to install Gnome first, before removing Xfce. Otherwise you will remove libraries which you will later re-emerge for Gnome. Then you need to configure your display manager (kdm, gdm, xdm) to use Gnome instead of Xfce. Kdm and Gdm should allow you to do that directly on the login screen. When you are satisfied with Gnome, edit /var/lib/portage/world and remove every line containing an Xfce package. Then run `emerge -av --depclean` and you are done. You could continue to remove config files but that is usually not worth the trouble. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp Do I understand you correctly that it is not necessary to run emerge -unmerge first before removing the atoms from @world and running emerge --depclean? Terry Yes. The --depclean option will remove any packages that are not in /var/lib/portage/world and are not dependencies of other installed packages already in /var/lib/portage/world. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pambase/shadow warning
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21.04.2012 17:30, Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Fri, Apr 20 2012, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:22:20 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: I'll run the update again today, paying more attention, and see what happens. What happened is it broke again, with no obvious signs of the cause. conf-update reported only trivial changes to three files. I've just tried it on my netbook and the same happened, but I think I'm closer to the cause. The three files in /etc/pam.d are login, passwd and su. After updating, there were ._cfg* versions of these files, but no originals, so conf-update just deleted them. It turns out these were owned by shadow but now belong to pambase. I suspect that pambase installed them as ._cfg versions, because the others already existed, then shadow removed the originals as they were no longer part of the package. Whether this is a bug in portage, the ebuilds or conf-update is open to debate, but conf-update ought to handle the situation better. I'll file a bug later if no one beats me to it. First, thanks for the warning. There is a bug filed https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412721 The comments there say that if you run etc-update right after the emerge all is well (but this isn't sufficient for people who use screen, detatch, and log out). Someone also mentioned dispatch-conf working. No one mentioned cfg-update, which I use (and I believe neil does as well). Could the problem be dependent on which configuration file updater one uses? I have not updated my primary machine. I did update another one (both machines are ~amd64) including a cfg-update -q, but have not rebooted it. The secondary can su. This seems to suggest that cfg-update is sufficient in some cases. Am I correct in believing the safe procedure is to add =sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r2 =sys-apps/shadow-4.1.5. to /etc/portage/package.mask (or a file in that directory)? thanks, allan Hi, I actually used cfg-update -u on 3 different machines up to now. So cfg-update can't be at the core of that problem. Maybe it's some kind of race-condition or the bug depends on other things too (e.g.: I'm using gnome and gdm also puts some files to /etc/pam.d which maybe mitigate the issue somehow) - pure speculation, though. The syntax for the masking seems to be correct (since shadow-4.1.5-r2 already has hit the tree maybe the problem is solved. Otherwise you would most likely like to mask -r1 and -r2 also). WKR Hinnerk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPkwltAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYcuRwH/2FoHs4JwplMRZlSS4dtg388 y82/o4Cu60kgbdC1kHS7d/OXhu5ZHgTH1KhxW3zZZYxSBc6yGlTV4XBnBveEPBQG R7VkBwLMK7kgQewQGBO2GVIVzDlKa2QtZAHTySgqFritZXZeYrpC5FXC+yj3/k3S tpwZ2RcTFjdaCK8fbELRLtFK4DO00+j7Zs+3NvUz33tTSg8RBKh908DX6IRGW557 Ypd1o1X+Ea8RJcPN71Z8k4EGfwOI3nJW/kpttar3NdRfio6Kc7Gb8MYFeMFIGnX2 AVRTu7pfhdlkjR7+BCXm5kpMtcMZmhN1jelOj8lKtrZsC2VRuYbyjsT+1rssO8Q= =CPBN -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mic works, but doesn't work...
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/04/12 21:13, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, Ah, for a peaceful Saturday, but I guess not this one... I'm just starting to investigate this but maybe someone's worked on this sort of thing recently? Make sure the mic is selected as the capture source: * Run alsamixer in a terminal. * Press F6 and select your sound card. * Press F4 to get to the capture settings. * From the available inputs, select Mic (left/right arrow keys) and press space to select it as the capture source. Raise the capture volume to maximum (up arrow key.) * Esc. All of this can also be done in KMix if you're on KDE. Hi Nikos, Right, all done both in KMix as well as alsamixer. No change yet. Capture was already selected and volume up. I tried with Capture1 and Capture2. No change. I tried dropping back to my earlier 3.2.1-gentoo-r2 kernel but that also didn't work. However for some reason it also had a problem with the nvidia driver and to get X I had to do a modules-rebuild -X rebuild so I'm no longer sure what state that's in WRT also. Anyway, 3.2.1 boots, KDE logs in but no microphone audio. That kernel was built on 3/17 so I'm 200% certain the mix worked on that kernel 2 weeks ago. What's strange about this (to me) is that when I'm in the Skype Test Call app (darn I like that English girl in that. Where is she from?) :-) I can tap on the mic and hear the thumps in my headphones so I know the mix works. However I'm not sure if possibly the sound card isn't mixing that directly into the audio output and maybe Alsa is never hearing the mic. Stumped. Going to try the old delete asound.state thing next... Cheers, Mark A little more info: 1) If I run a YouTube video while I'm doing this then: a) PCM controls YouTube volume b) Master does nothing 2) While YouTube is running, if I turn off PCM so I have no volume, then I can tap on the mic and hear it. To me this means the mic audio I'm hearing isn't in Alsa at all but rather it's some sort of hardware mixer in the sound chip. 3) Muting the Front mic input in Alsa stops the mic audio I am hearing. 4) Modifying Front Mic Boost works as expected: 4 steps of major mic gain. 0 is totally off. (Like mute on Front mic) 5) In my Capture settings I have front back mic volume and boost as well as a 'Digital' input and places to set the Input sources which are set to Front Mic, Rear Mic Mix. Changes here haven't effected anything so far. All 4 sliders are full up. (Capture, Capture1, Capture2 Digital)
Re: [gentoo-user] new mobo : Eth0 recovered
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:06:08 -0500, Dale wrote: Thanks again for the help : I'm now back in my 2007 machine able to send e-mails. You actually have to remove the offensive file from the dir, not simply rename it to 'xx70xx...' ! The problem here is that the file is created automatically, so renaming the old one to not end in .rules new cause it to be ignored, but a one will be created. That's the same way files in /etc/portage/ works too. I do wish we could put a # on the front to make it ignore files. The correct way to disable it is to set persistent_net_disable=no in /etc/conf.d/udev -- Neil Bothwick I have seen the truth, and it makes no sense. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Length of a video...
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:27:37 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: is there a way to determine the playing length of a video file in minutes without playing the while file? Use midentify, part of mplayer. midentify filename | grep LENGTH -- Neil Bothwick You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mic works, but doesn't work...
On Saturday 21 Apr 2012 20:00:00 Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/04/12 21:13, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, Ah, for a peaceful Saturday, but I guess not this one... I'm just starting to investigate this but maybe someone's worked on this sort of thing recently? Make sure the mic is selected as the capture source: * Run alsamixer in a terminal. * Press F6 and select your sound card. * Press F4 to get to the capture settings. * From the available inputs, select Mic (left/right arrow keys) and press space to select it as the capture source. Raise the capture volume to maximum (up arrow key.) * Esc. All of this can also be done in KMix if you're on KDE. Hi Nikos, Right, all done both in KMix as well as alsamixer. No change yet. Capture was already selected and volume up. I tried with Capture1 and Capture2. No change. I tried dropping back to my earlier 3.2.1-gentoo-r2 kernel but that also didn't work. However for some reason it also had a problem with the nvidia driver and to get X I had to do a modules-rebuild -X rebuild so I'm no longer sure what state that's in WRT also. Anyway, 3.2.1 boots, KDE logs in but no microphone audio. That kernel was built on 3/17 so I'm 200% certain the mix worked on that kernel 2 weeks ago. What's strange about this (to me) is that when I'm in the Skype Test Call app (darn I like that English girl in that. Where is she from?) :-) I can tap on the mic and hear the thumps in my headphones so I know the mix works. However I'm not sure if possibly the sound card isn't mixing that directly into the audio output and maybe Alsa is never hearing the mic. Stumped. Going to try the old delete asound.state thing next... Cheers, Mark I seem to recall activating/unmuting 'digital' capture in alsamix for my plug in mic to work. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] new mobo : Eth0 recovered
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:06:08 -0500, Dale wrote: Thanks again for the help : I'm now back in my 2007 machine able to send e-mails. You actually have to remove the offensive file from the dir, not simply rename it to 'xx70xx...' ! The problem here is that the file is created automatically, so renaming the old one to not end in .rules new cause it to be ignored, but a one will be created. That's the same way files in /etc/portage/ works too. I do wish we could put a # on the front to make it ignore files. The correct way to disable it is to set persistent_net_disable=no in /etc/conf.d/udev I was referring to the files in /etc/portage with that. Although, I didn't know you could get it to ignore the ones for udev either, other than deleting/removing them of course. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mic works, but doesn't work...
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 21 Apr 2012 20:00:00 Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/04/12 21:13, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, Ah, for a peaceful Saturday, but I guess not this one... I'm just starting to investigate this but maybe someone's worked on this sort of thing recently? Make sure the mic is selected as the capture source: * Run alsamixer in a terminal. * Press F6 and select your sound card. * Press F4 to get to the capture settings. * From the available inputs, select Mic (left/right arrow keys) and press space to select it as the capture source. Raise the capture volume to maximum (up arrow key.) * Esc. All of this can also be done in KMix if you're on KDE. SNIP I seem to recall activating/unmuting 'digital' capture in alsamix for my plug in mic to work. -- Regards, Mick OK, don't ask me why but it's working fine now. The 'Capture' control is to full, PCM set to about 80, headphone control to set volume ot my headphones. No idea why it started working but it is so at least it's behind me/ (I hope...) Thanks, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] kwin opengl compositing w/ nouveau?
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 22:50, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote: Two things come to mind, given some recent trouble I've had on the radeon side of the coin here, and with an intel system or two in the past. The DRM related drivers seem to be prone to misbehaving when they're not configured as modules. I haven't managed to sort out why, so you may see if a change there helps, though it'll likely cause mode changes throughout the booting process. The second thing that comes to mind is that you don't include any relevant entries from glxinfo (glxinfo | grep ender) or Xorg.?.log (notably anything flagged as an error, 'grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log' grabs that, plus a bit of cruft), notably from a session where things aren't working properly, as the majority of issues trace back to direct rendering being disabled due to some incompatibility that gets noted in the log (often in delightfully cryptic prose). I converted nouveau to a kernel module: $ lsmod Module Size Used by nouveau 579746 -2 cfbfillrect12485 -2 cfbimgblt 12313 -2 cfbcopyarea12313 -2 drm_kms_helper 27209 -2 ttm57762 -2 switched the kwinrc to OpenGL, ran startx. KDE loaded (I saw the splash screen and heard the startup noise) but then nothing was shown on the desktop (so I couldnt run glxinfo as I couldnt see anything) Ive attached Xorg.0.log and xsession-errors herein. Bad.tgz has versions of these files from OpenGL whereas good.tgz has versions from XRender. FWIW, the only 'EE' in the Xorg log is missing 'fb' and 'vesa' modules Also I do not have an xorg.conf if that makes a difference -- Douglas J Hunley (doug.hun...@gmail.com) Twitter: @hunleyd Web: douglasjhunley.com G+: http://goo.gl/sajR3 bad.tgz Description: GNU Zip compressed data good.tgz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pambase/shadow warning
On Sat, Apr 21 2012, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: On 21.04.2012 17:30, Allan Gottlieb wrote: There is a bug filed https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412721 Am I correct in believing the safe procedure is to add =sys-auth/pambase-20101024-r2 =sys-apps/shadow-4.1.5. to /etc/portage/package.mask (or a file in that directory)? I actually used cfg-update -u on 3 different machines up to now. So cfg-update can't be at the core of that problem. Maybe it's some kind of race-condition or the bug depends on other things too (e.g.: I'm using gnome and gdm also puts some files to /etc/pam.d which maybe mitigate the issue somehow) - pure speculation, though. Thanks. I also use gnome (-3) and gdm on all machines and this might explain why my secondary machine survived the update. However, there are doubtless many users and developers running KDE and the bug has no mention of them being unable to run after etc-update and friends (unless the damage is so great they can't add to the bug :-( ). My secondary laptop has the dangerous versions installed and has been successfully rebooted and logged in to. I am taking a more cautious approach on my primary laptop and masking =sys-auth/pambase-20120417 =sys-apps/shadow-4.1.5-r1 until the smoke clears. allan
Re: [gentoo-user]How can i remove the xfce clearly?
Am 21.04.2012 20:39, schrieb ny6...@gmail.com: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 09:45:49AM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 21.04.2012 05:27, schrieb ??: I just install the xfce a few days ago, But i find i didn't like it . So i want to remove it and install the Gnome . How can i remove the xfce clearly ? -- Gnome and Xfce share many libraries. Therefore it is best to install Gnome first, before removing Xfce. Otherwise you will remove libraries which you will later re-emerge for Gnome. Then you need to configure your display manager (kdm, gdm, xdm) to use Gnome instead of Xfce. Kdm and Gdm should allow you to do that directly on the login screen. When you are satisfied with Gnome, edit /var/lib/portage/world and remove every line containing an Xfce package. Then run `emerge -av --depclean` and you are done. You could continue to remove config files but that is usually not worth the trouble. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp Do I understand you correctly that it is not necessary to run emerge -unmerge first before removing the atoms from @world and running emerge --depclean? Terry Yes. I think it is also mentioned in the gentoo handbook. In fact, you should not use --unmerge because it doesn't check dependencies before removing the package. If you want to delete a package only if no other package depends on it, either remove it from world or use `emerge -av --depclean package_name`. The latter has the advantage of also telling you what depends on it. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Correct syntax for /etc/conf.d/modules
Am 21.04.2012 20:56, schrieb Mick:
I am getting confused about the syntax that openrc is meant to follow ...
One box of mine that uses modules ran some script at the time that I upgraded
to openrc and it added my currently running modules into /etc/conf.d/modules.
The syntax was like so:
modules_2_6=${modules_2_6} cls_tcindex
module_cls_tcindex_args_2_6=
Things moved on and with newer kernel versions I went to update the file
after
I had a look at the documentation:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml
Well there is no ${modules_2_6} shown in the examples so I removed it from my
/etc/conf.d/modules. The new syntax was now:
modules_3_2=cls_tcindex
and guess what? No modules loaded at all when I reboot. :-/
I had to add ${modules_3_2} in there to get things going again.
However 'echo ${modules_3_2}' on the CLI does not show anything. Can you
please explain why this variable is needed for modules to load up again and
why it is not shown in the documentation?
I guess it is modules_3 now. With the transition to 3.x, the numbering
scheme has changed and minor numbers change much more frequently.
You can also simply use modules= unless you have a reason for
distinguishing between versions. At least, that's what I use here.
Hope this helps,
Florian Philipp
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Re: [gentoo-user]How can i remove the xfce clearly?
But it seems that the --depclean is a dangerous operate ?? 在 2012年4月22日 上午7:15，Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net写道： Am 21.04.2012 20:39, schrieb ny6...@gmail.com: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 09:45:49AM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 21.04.2012 05:27, schrieb ??: I just install the xfce a few days ago, But i find i didn't like it . So i want to remove it and install the Gnome . How can i remove the xfce clearly ? -- Gnome and Xfce share many libraries. Therefore it is best to install Gnome first, before removing Xfce. Otherwise you will remove libraries which you will later re-emerge for Gnome. Then you need to configure your display manager (kdm, gdm, xdm) to use Gnome instead of Xfce. Kdm and Gdm should allow you to do that directly on the login screen. When you are satisfied with Gnome, edit /var/lib/portage/world and remove every line containing an Xfce package. Then run `emerge -av --depclean` and you are done. You could continue to remove config files but that is usually not worth the trouble. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp Do I understand you correctly that it is not necessary to run emerge -unmerge first before removing the atoms from @world and running emerge --depclean? Terry Yes. I think it is also mentioned in the gentoo handbook. In fact, you should not use --unmerge because it doesn't check dependencies before removing the package. If you want to delete a package only if no other package depends on it, either remove it from world or use `emerge -av --depclean package_name`. The latter has the advantage of also telling you what depends on it. Regards, Florian Philipp -- 好好学习，天天向上！！！
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: pambase/shadow warning
Hinnerk van Bruinehsen writes: On 21.04.2012 17:30, Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Fri, Apr 20 2012, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:22:20 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: [...] What happened is it broke again, with no obvious signs of the cause. conf-update reported only trivial changes to three files. [...] There is a bug filed https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412721 The comments there say that if you run etc-update right after the emerge all is well (but this isn't sufficient for people who use screen, detatch, and log out). Someone also mentioned dispatch-conf working. No one mentioned cfg-update, which I use (and I believe neil does as well). Could the problem be dependent on which configuration file updater one uses? No, he is using conf-update, which is a different utility. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user]How can i remove the xfce clearly?
赵佳晖 wrote: But it seems that the --depclean is a dangerous operate ?? I use it quite often here. It's like a knife, use it carefully. Always use the -a or -p option and check that it is not removing something I want or need before letting it complete the removal. I prefer the -a option since it is faster. If the list is correct, just hit y and let it remove the unwanted packages. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Length of a video...
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [12-04-22 02:28]: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:27:37 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: is there a way to determine the playing length of a video file in minutes without playing the while file? Use midentify, part of mplayer. midentify filename | grep LENGTH -- Neil Bothwick You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. Thanks a lot Neil! Works as a charm! :) Have a nice Sunday! Best regards, mcc
