[gentoo-user] A couple questions related to fbsplash
In all my years of Gentoo I've never set up fbsplash and fbcondecor, so I finally did so on my old laptop. It all worked, pretty easy to set up -- however, there are 2 things I have questions about: 1) I see much of OpenRC's colorful output before the fbsplash kicks in. Is there any trick to prevent that stuff from showing and/or making the splash screen show up earlier? 2) With the fbsplash enabled, xdm (slim) starts in the background. I have to alt-7 to see the graphical login screen. xdm starts at default runlevel. With splash disabled, xdm (slim) starts in the foreground. Why is that? I'm using radeon/kms and gentoo-sources-3.4.0 with the livedvd-12.0 theme. Thanks, Paul
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 4.10 xsane and Application -- Run Program not working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30.05.2012 04:37, Joseph wrote: On 05/29/12 19:23, walt wrote: On 05/29/2012 06:23 PM, Joseph wrote: 2.) Application -- Run Program a windows pups up. When I type: nano 1.txt Nothing happens. Please be more specific about 'nothing'. Does nano just close immediately with no error message? Does it hang forever until you hit ^C, or what? What do you see if you type 'which nano'? What about 'echo $PATH'? which nano gives me: /usr/bin/nano I can run nano from command line but when type nano + file name in Run Program it should open that file but it doesn't, no windows pops up. Since I haven't installed XFCE it's a bit of guesswork: have you tried xterm nano? That works for me (I'm using gnome, though). You could also try to run a program with a gui (like firefox). I don't think that it ever worked for me to enter a shell command and actually see the result in a window. WKR Hinnerk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPxcVdAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYcLAsH/3X7GCfOKRZC398Bzx4TKWFD 3kEhT+l07pBargCaGNQAZvRgr6TEMf23ib42z+knl20xeYH/QAxYfICE0UKrDYmp 3M6oJiwjRKdScTfIRYwk1T85zSPEhgNS+9C2g1/1lelQaDylMKcKP1p5scWTfSyz nqolF6SvKWFRVP1xIQ/W1Rf8+QcZzMCZauL6r1fmFWQ/aio2Waql/GIIeEm9Q2gI RrIlP40Pd7kuJN2pyw38vcguVv34BOZJEDnmpLV3UndcA53zpZ/acNkUXIV59jdh ovKpuRWlgwYUzyei/AsIb05L+Ifd816etqC3Q1Cm028q54WjiPaUAjGVrnVl9DQ= =aqxP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome3 weather applet
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: I am one of those poor saps who decided to try gnome3 and its not pleasant at all ... its an even worse hit on productivity than early gnome2 over 1.4 was :( Apparently 3.2 has a weather app available, but I cant find it or how to turn it on or add it to the desktop or panel. Can someone enlighten me on how this works for gentoo? - I have libgweather installed which is what I need, right? I cant see any other relevant packages. Billk Hi Bill, I use this weather extension [1] More extensions here [2] [1] https://github.com/simon04/gnome-shell-extension-weather [2] https://extensions.gnome.org HTH, David
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?
Regarding proposals, schedules, roadmaps, milestones I've got a list of a million changes to make to my website's front-end and back-end. There is a very specific way I want things to work, so everything is broken down to a granular task level. In the old days I would just dig in and start grinding away on things, but I'm ready to pass that duty on to a real programmer and I can't imagine that it's productive to have him submit a proposal, set up a schedule, generate a roadmap, and create milestones for every little thing that needs to be done. Can I hire one guy and give him one task at a time and see how it goes without any of that stuff? That will only work if you show him the big picture first so he sees where the bits fit in. By all means contract him to focus on one aspect at a time, but please don't disguise the overall view. It's counter-productive and he's not doing something he has already done many times before so he really needs to be able to see how the bit he's working on fits into everything else. In the past I did plan to disguise the overall view, but I've gotten over that thanks to folks like yourself. We've discussed this project of yours more than once here over the years, and each time the same thing gets raised - you are unwilling to show a programmer the whole picture. Does this mean the handover efforts have all failed before? Previous handover efforts have failed, and precisely for that reason. I didn't bring up obscuring the big picture this time, but re-reading my top paragraph in this message I can see that it sounds like that's what I'm getting at. It's not at all. I'm just trying to preload some management knowledge and fit it into my context (which does not include obscuring the big picture from developers). - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?
You can get away with almost anything except these two things: Do not micro-manage Do not tell them how to do what they do Could you give me an example of this last one? - I see you are using Perl with hashrefs to do function xyz. Have you considered (i.e. I would like you to) using $INSERT_SOMETHING_HERE? So if I see a way that their coding could be improved (faster execution, greater legibility, etc) I just keep quiet about it? - Wanting to personally review the code often. I've seen some managers want to do this daily. How often should I read their code? I was planning on reading it a lot. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] what's wrong with pulseaudio?
CPV == Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com writes: CPV On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Easior eas...@tom.com wrote: Hi, all! I found that there were some strange files or directories under root CPV directory. Let's see what happened? $ ls -a . boot home media opt .pulse-cookie sbin usr .. dev lib mnt proc root sys var bin etc lost+found null .pulse run tmp As to my experience, .pulse and .pulse-cookie should be in the $HOME CPV directory. How to resovle this problem? CPV Delete them. Look at the date, they probably got created a long time CPV ago under weird circumstances (perhaps booting using a livecd), and CPV they remained there. CPV Just delete them. CPV Regards. CPV -- CPV Canek Peláez Valdés CPV Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación CPV Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Thanks. I have tried to delete them. However, It didn't take any effect. They will apear again in that place every time the Gentoo is booted. As a fact, let's see: # ls -al .pulse* -rw--- 1 root root 256 May 27 20:53 .pulse-cookie .pulse: total 8 drwx-- 2 root root 4096 May 30 15:59 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 May 27 20:53 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 May 30 15:59 ceba4124b7a0c408493ce5bb001e-runtime - /tmp/pulse-PKdhtXMmr18n what happened? -- 自从你离开了以后,我一直等待着你回来 我知道寻找你需要经历很多的困难,但我会努力的 My homepage:[http://]
[gentoo-user] Re: A couple questions related to fbsplash
On 30/05/12 09:42, Paul Hartman wrote: In all my years of Gentoo I've never set up fbsplash and fbcondecor, so I finally did so on my old laptop. It all worked, pretty easy to set up -- however, there are 2 things I have questions about: 1) I see much of OpenRC's colorful output before the fbsplash kicks in. Is there any trick to prevent that stuff from showing and/or making the splash screen show up earlier? Yes. Compile the KMS driver in-kernel rather than as a module. 2) With the fbsplash enabled, xdm (slim) starts in the background. I have to alt-7 to see the graphical login screen. xdm starts at default runlevel. With splash disabled, xdm (slim) starts in the foreground. Why is that? Sounds like a bug. I use KDM and it switches to console 7 automatically.
Re: [gentoo-user] xfce4 4.10 xsane and Application -- Run Program not working
On 05/30/12 07:43, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: [snip] when I run it as user: scanimage -L No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages). Any pointers why it can not detect scanner as user? Is your user in the scanner group? You are correct, the user wasn't in a scanner group :-/ -- Joseph
[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} hire a programmer or company?
The 30/05/12, Grant wrote: So if I see a way that their coding could be improved (faster execution, greater legibility, etc) I just keep quiet about it? Improvements is only one aspect of where to focus the efforts. How often should I read their code? I was planning on reading it a lot. In small teams, these tasks (including making releases) are usually done by the software maintainer. To know what to do, you should be clear about who will be in charge of releasing the software. A SVC is *required* and the tool choice should be a team choice. Once done and roles assigned, it will be really easy for you to know what you can/should do or not. Anybody can act/interact as different role as long as the role is well defined (e.g. while reviewing code, you do reviewing code /only/ and might discuss the design choices but the final technical decision must stay in the hands of the software maintainer). FMPOV the key role is the maintainer. The job requires both good technical knowlegde and a large project view. -- Nicolas Sebrecht
[gentoo-user] Re: gnome3 weather applet
On 05/29/2012 10:56 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: I am one of those poor saps who decided to try gnome3 and its not pleasant at all ... its an even worse hit on productivity than early gnome2 over 1.4 was :( I find gnome3 to be not very different from gnome2 *if* I run it in fallback mode. Try it: System Settings::System Info::Graphics:: Forced Fallback Mode::On So far I find gnome-shell to be pointless, but I'll try it every few months to see if I change my mind. (Normally my wife changes my mind for me, but she's not interested in linux so she doesn't care.)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 4.10 xsane and Application -- Run Program not working
On 05/30/12 08:59, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: On 30.05.2012 04:37, Joseph wrote: On 05/29/12 19:23, walt wrote: On 05/29/2012 06:23 PM, Joseph wrote: 2.) Application -- Run Program a windows pups up. When I type: nano 1.txt Nothing happens. Please be more specific about 'nothing'. Does nano just close immediately with no error message? Does it hang forever until you hit ^C, or what? What do you see if you type 'which nano'? What about 'echo $PATH'? which nano gives me: /usr/bin/nano I can run nano from command line but when type nano + file name in Run Program it should open that file but it doesn't, no windows pops up. Since I haven't installed XFCE it's a bit of guesswork: have you tried xterm nano? That works for me (I'm using gnome, though). You could also try to run a program with a gui (like firefox). I don't think that it ever worked for me to enter a shell command and actually see the result in a window. WKR Hinnerk No, xterm nano doesn't work either. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 4.10 xsane and Application -- Run Program not working
On Wed, 30 May 2012 07:12:23 -0600 Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: No, xterm nano doesn't work either. More information than doesn't work either please. For example: Does xterm alone (or whatever terminal you use) start? Does nano start in tty? Does your Xsession error log record anything when 'xterm nano doesn't work'? Kerwin. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] what's wrong with pulseaudio?
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Easior eas...@tom.com wrote: CPV == Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com writes: CPV On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Easior eas...@tom.com wrote: Hi, all! I found that there were some strange files or directories under root CPV directory. Let's see what happened? $ ls -a . boot home media opt .pulse-cookie sbin usr .. dev lib mnt proc root sys var bin etc lost+found null .pulse run tmp As to my experience, .pulse and .pulse-cookie should be in the $HOME CPV directory. How to resovle this problem? CPV Delete them. Look at the date, they probably got created a long time CPV ago under weird circumstances (perhaps booting using a livecd), and CPV they remained there. CPV Just delete them. CPV Regards. CPV -- CPV Canek Peláez Valdés CPV Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación CPV Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Thanks. I have tried to delete them. However, It didn't take any effect. They will apear again in that place every time the Gentoo is booted. As a fact, let's see: # ls -al .pulse* -rw--- 1 root root 256 May 27 20:53 .pulse-cookie .pulse: total 8 drwx-- 2 root root 4096 May 30 15:59 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 May 27 20:53 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 May 30 15:59 ceba4124b7a0c408493ce5bb001e-runtime - /tmp/pulse-PKdhtXMmr18n what happened? I don't know. What desktop do you use? Do you run it as root? What version of PulseAudio do you have installed? Do you have /etc/init.d/pulseaudio in any of your runlevels? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild (gawk) issues
Am 29.05.2012 23:37, schrieb Rafa Griman: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:56:07 +0200 Rafa Griman rafagri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vaeth :) On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2012, Rafa Griman wrote: gawk: cmd. line:3: error: Unmatched [ or [^: /[^[:space:]]/ Your gawk is broken. This happens if you emerged gawk with current gcc and aggressive FLAGS like -DNDEBUG or -flto. Not sure whether it is a bug of gawk or gcc. So it seems to be the CFLAGS :( As I said in my previous e-mail, I was experimenting a bit with them ... I'll be more conservative ;) Well, on the one hand the flags don;t seem to be too bad overall, but on the other hand there's the golden rule of Gentoo: Don't stuff around with CFLAGS Why not? Well, there's the ricer phenomenon where changed CFLAGS worsen performance and stability but the user's own bias convinces him/her that it's actually vastly improved. I know that rule and tried not to be too agressive but seems I was O:) Since it's not my min machine, I was going to experiment (nothing scientific, just curiosity) trying different options on different partitions and see how they work out. Out of curiosity: What flags do you run now? Do you know which flag exactly caused the problem? They didn't seem too experimental though -fno-inline looked odd. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xfce4 4.10 xsane and Application -- Run Program not working
On 05/30/12 23:16, kwk...@hkbn.net wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2012 07:12:23 -0600 Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: No, xterm nano doesn't work either. More information than doesn't work either please. For example: Does xterm alone (or whatever terminal you use) start? Does nano start in tty? Does your Xsession error log record anything when 'xterm nano doesn't work'? Kerwin. No, xterm nano doesn't work but !nano does. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild (gawk) issues
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: Am 29.05.2012 23:37, schrieb Rafa Griman: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2012 22:56:07 +0200 Rafa Griman rafagri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vaeth :) On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2012, Rafa Griman wrote: gawk: cmd. line:3: error: Unmatched [ or [^: /[^[:space:]]/ Your gawk is broken. This happens if you emerged gawk with current gcc and aggressive FLAGS like -DNDEBUG or -flto. Not sure whether it is a bug of gawk or gcc. So it seems to be the CFLAGS :( As I said in my previous e-mail, I was experimenting a bit with them ... I'll be more conservative ;) Well, on the one hand the flags don;t seem to be too bad overall, but on the other hand there's the golden rule of Gentoo: Don't stuff around with CFLAGS Why not? Well, there's the ricer phenomenon where changed CFLAGS worsen performance and stability but the user's own bias convinces him/her that it's actually vastly improved. I know that rule and tried not to be too agressive but seems I was O:) Since it's not my min machine, I was going to experiment (nothing scientific, just curiosity) trying different options on different partitions and see how they work out. Out of curiosity: What flags do you run now? Do you know which flag exactly caused the problem? They didn't seem too experimental though -fno-inline looked odd. That one's it: -fno-inline. Removed it and now the error disappears. revdep-rebuild runs well now. Thanks all !!! Rafa
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?
On Wed, 30 May 2012 02:11:54 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: You can get away with almost anything except these two things: Do not micro-manage Do not tell them how to do what they do Could you give me an example of this last one? - I see you are using Perl with hashrefs to do function xyz. Have you considered (i.e. I would like you to) using $INSERT_SOMETHING_HERE? So if I see a way that their coding could be improved (faster execution, greater legibility, etc) I just keep quiet about it? - Wanting to personally review the code often. I've seen some managers want to do this daily. How often should I read their code? I was planning on reading it a lot. Perhaps I was too literal. Those examples should be read in the context of obsessively fiddling with someone else's work. Alternatively, doing those examples and not producing anything worthwhile from doing it. Code reviews and suggestions are valuable, but there's a time and a place and a forum for them. All productive teams eventually reserve a time slot for review and demos of running code. You and the entire team can and should discuss optimizations then. Let me put it another way - you likely don't like it if someone else fiddles with your work while you are trying to do it, or gives helpful suggestions while you are trying to concentrate. All I'm saying is to avoid doing that to others. Good old common sense will tell you when this is happening - you already know how to do it, no need to analyze the thing any further than that -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] what's wrong with pulseaudio?
CPV == Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com writes: CPV On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Easior eas...@tom.com wrote: CPV == Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com writes: CPV On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Easior eas...@tom.com CPV wrote: Hi, all! I found that there were some strange files or directories CPV under root CPV directory. Let's see what happened? $ ls -a . boot home media opt .pulse-cookie sbin CPV usr .. dev lib mnt proc root sys CPV var bin etc lost+found null .pulse run tmp As to my experience, .pulse and .pulse-cookie should be in CPV the $HOME CPV directory. How to resovle this problem? CPV Delete them. Look at the date, they probably got created a CPV long time CPV ago under weird circumstances (perhaps booting using a CPV livecd), and CPV they remained there. CPV Just delete them. CPV Regards. CPV -- CPV Canek Peláez Valdés CPV Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación CPV Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Thanks. I have tried to delete them. However, It didn't take any effect. They will apear again in that place every time the Gentoo is booted. As a fact, let's see: # ls -al .pulse* -rw--- 1 root root 256 May 27 20:53 .pulse-cookie .pulse: total 8 drwx-- 2 root root 4096 May 30 15:59 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 May 27 20:53 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 May 30 15:59 CPV ceba4124b7a0c408493ce5bb001e-runtime - /tmp/pulse-PKdhtXMmr18n what happened? CPV I don't know. What desktop do you use? Do you run it as root? What CPV version of PulseAudio do you have installed? Do you have CPV /etc/init.d/pulseaudio in any of your runlevels? I use Gnome 3 as my DE and also run it as normal user. I use PulseAudio 2.0: $ eix media-sound/pulseaudio [I] media-sound/pulseaudio Available versions: 0.9.22 0.9.22-r2 (~)0.9.23-r1 (~)1.1 1.1-r1 (~)2.0 ** {{+X +alsa +asyncns avahi bluetooth +caps dbus doc equalizer +gdbm +glib gnome ipv6 jack libsamplerate lirc +orc oss realtime ssl system-wide tcpd test +udev +webrtc-aec}} Installed versions: 2.0(06:44:00 AM 05/27/2012)(X alsa asyncns caps dbus gdbm glib gnome lirc orc ssl tcpd udev webrtc-aec -avahi -bluetooth -doc -equalizer -ipv6 -jack -libsamplerate -oss -realtime -system-wide -test) Homepage:http://www.pulseaudio.org/ Description: A networked sound server with an advanced plugin system And pulseaudio is not in the runleves, even not in /etc/init.d. Maybe, the pulseaudio is misconfigured. But I couldn't find any useful information on how to generate the run-time file /.pulse in the configuration directory /etc/pulse. Do you know how to generate them? CPV Regards. CPV -- CPV Canek Peláez Valdés CPV Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación CPV Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Best wishes, Easior -- 自从你离开了以后,我一直等待着你回来 心痛的时候,真是好辛苦 My homepage:[http://]
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome3 weather applet
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:57 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/29/2012 10:56 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: I am one of those poor saps who decided to try gnome3 and its not pleasant at all ... its an even worse hit on productivity than early gnome2 over 1.4 was :( I find gnome3 to be not very different from gnome2 *if* I run it in fallback mode. Try it: System Settings::System Info::Graphics:: Forced Fallback Mode::On So far I find gnome-shell to be pointless, but I'll try it every few months to see if I change my mind. (Normally my wife changes my mind for me, but she's not interested in linux so she doesn't care.) I find the grouped windows of the same application to be quite convenient and efficient, been using gnome-shell for months now and love it. Was forced to learn all the keyboard shortcuts and I'm much more productive. Alt-tab for switching between applications and Alt-` for switching between the same application, very nice. Just in case someone here hasn't yet come across it, here's the Gnome 3 cheat sheet (quite useful): https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet Plus the extensions are great and also simple to use. I didn't install a single extension until yesterday, and I was really surprised at how easy it was and how useful some of them are. Here's a short list of what I found useful: Remove Accessibility - Removes the accessibility icon from the upper right Calculator - Allows you to do simple calculations from within the shell, just press the super key and start typing Notifications Alert - Makes notifications more apparent in case you miss one Media player indicator - Sort of like Ubuntu's Unity music indicator Advanced Volume Mixer - Lists all the app's sound levels right in the drop-down mixer Panel Settings - Some settings to change the panel visibility and location Yes, normally I would prefer a lot of these features to be included in the desktop environment. But they made them so easy to install and try, I was really surprised and impressed. It's as if they want the weird simplicity so everyone can customize it with extensions, which is a nice approach to it, in my opinion. I've always disliked the bloat and complexity of KDE's built-in settings, etc. But I don't mean to start a flame war, that's just my taste and opinion.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A couple questions related to fbsplash
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/05/12 09:42, Paul Hartman wrote: In all my years of Gentoo I've never set up fbsplash and fbcondecor, so I finally did so on my old laptop. It all worked, pretty easy to set up -- however, there are 2 things I have questions about: 1) I see much of OpenRC's colorful output before the fbsplash kicks in. Is there any trick to prevent that stuff from showing and/or making the splash screen show up earlier? Yes. Compile the KMS driver in-kernel rather than as a module. Thanks, that fixed it. I saw my OpenRC through Waiting for uevents to be processed before, so that makes perfect sense now. Radeon starts in dmesg at 0.3 seconds instead of 2.8 seconds. :) I see Tux for a microsecond, then the splash screen appears and flashes black three times before stabilizing. I don't think it is the display changing modes (the backlight stays on), it just looks like it's switching between blank screen and back to showing the graphics. It happens at the very beginning of the splash, before root is remounted and the progress bar is moving. I'm using dracut's gensplash module to generate the initrd, maybe it's doing something funny. 2) With the fbsplash enabled, xdm (slim) starts in the background. I have to alt-7 to see the graphical login screen. xdm starts at default runlevel. With splash disabled, xdm (slim) starts in the foreground. Why is that? Sounds like a bug. I use KDM and it switches to console 7 automatically. I just tried plain xdm as well as slim and both wind up in the background when splash is enabled. Weird. What specifically happens is: I see the graphical login screen for a split second, then it changes back to tty1, I briefly see the last parts of OpenRC finishing and then the console login prompt. alt-7 will take me back to the graphical login screen and it works normally once I'm there. I will keep hunting.