[gentoo-ppc-user] SuperTuxKart 0.8.1 and the Nemo PowerPC Board
Hi all, If you don't want to join the Cyrus Plus beta test team but you need a new PowerPC board, then you can maybe have interest in a new Nemo board. There are a last delivery of Nemo motherbards. For the Nemo there are a lot of Linux distributions available (Debian, Ubuntu (+ Live DVD), openSUSE, Fedora, CruxPPC, Gentoo, MintPPC, Red Ribbon, SliTaz, and a lot of live USB flash drive images). Linux and Nemo screenshots: http://www.supertuxkart-amiga.de/amiga/x1000.html Nemo Specifications CPU: PA Semi Dual-core PA6T-1682M, nominal 2.0GHz (1.8GHz standard) PowerISA™ v2.04+ 4x DDR2 RAM slots 10x USB 2.0 1x Gigabit Ethernet 2x PCIe x16 slots (1x16 or 2x8) 2x PCIe x1 slots 1x Xorro slot 2x PCI legacy slots 2x RS232 4x SATA 2 connectors 1x IDE connector JTAG connector 1x Compact Flash 1x Xena 500MHz XMOS XS1-L2 124 For more details please contact AmigaKit or your participating local dealer: AmigaKit: www.amigakit.com/ Relec: www.relec.ch/frch/ Alinea: alinea-computer.de/ We have released SuperTuxKart 0.8.1 for the Nemo and Cyrus boards. SuperTuxKart, also known as STK, is a Mario Kart-like arcade racing game featuring the Linux mascot Tux. If you don't know STK, look this video: http://youtu.be/WutAN4i98_o. Downloads STK 0.8.1 for the Nemo board: http://sourceforge.net/projects/supertuxkart/files/SuperTuxKart/0.8.1/supertuxkart-0.8.1-2-altivec-linux-glibc2.13-ppc.tar.gz/download STK 0.8.1 for the Cyrus board: http://sourceforge.net/projects/supertuxkart/files/SuperTuxKart/0.8.1/supertuxkart-0.8.1-linux-glibc2.11.1-ppc.tar.gz/download Rgds, Christian
Re: [gentoo-user] recent trouble with wicd and systemd (non-global ctrl_ifname)
On 13/12/2013 00:47, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: At home I use a wired connection so did notice the following problem until I traveled and tried to connect wirelessly. The problem must have started sometime within the past month. If I have wicd started by systemd, i.e. systemctl enable wicd The wired network is started fine but not the wireless. Instead, I see in the systemd journal wicd[290]: Failed to connect to non-global ctrl_ifname: wired error: No such file or directory wicd[290]: Failed to connect to non-global ctrl_ifname: wireless error: No such file or directory If I instead systemctl disable wicd, reboot, and then manually type wpa_supplicant -i wireless -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B it works. Indeed after I have booted I can start wicd and cannot get the error above, but the actual behavior is not consistent. My system is ~amd64, profile gnome/systemd My wireless driver is from the package broadcom-sta (wl) I have never used wicd, so I can't say exactly what it's the problem; but I was under the impression that wicd is basically dead. Its last release was more than a year and a half ago. Regards. release more than a year and a half ago != dead the code the user has still works whether the devs adds upstream commits or not. It hasn't bit-rooted, is not incompatible with everything else and doesn't have outstanding security bugs with little chance of being fixed. So what's the problem? By that logic, zenity needs to have died 5 years ago but it's still around -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 18:06:40 -0800, Grant wrote: I may end up using portage instead of rsync but I think I'd like to try rsync first. Am I setting myself up for failure? Tried and tested system maintenance tool vs. home brewed modification of critical files... I'd say a definite possibility of a yes. Just let portage do what it was designed to do. Set up a build host, which doesn't have to be your laptop, it can be a chroot on a desktop or server. Set FEATURES=buildpkg on this, add usepkg to emerge default opts on everything else and have them all use the same PKGDIR over NFS. -- Neil Bothwick C:\BELFRY is where I keep my .BAT files ^^^oo^^^ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 17:49:01 -0800, Grant wrote: What if the push is done while no one is logged in to the system(s) being updated? I could also exclude /dev, /sys, /proc, and /run and reboot after the update. If that's not good enough, what if I boot the systems being updated into read-only mode before updating them? I'm hoping to keep the process as simple as possible. The problem with such home brewed systems is that they may start simple but you keep adding more conditions, like these, making them anything but simple. Now you're considering rebooting just to make an update, even Windows doesn't need that (well, not all the time). Alan's point about network connectivity is also important. What happens if you unplug your laptop and leave the office while someone is mid-sync? With emerge -b, the package is downloaded before anything is installed, so losing contact with the package host would be less critical. It could still cause problems if it happened while updating some inter-dependent packages, which is why I would prefer to use a static package repository. -- Neil Bothwick If Yoda so strong in force is, why words in right order he cannot put? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base
On Friday 13 Dec 2013 07:04:23 Mick wrote: I rebuilt kde-utils meta with USE=-cups to find out that umpteen packages want to be depcleaned: ---8 I may leave this until I have more time to look into it. For comparison, here's the list of packages that would be pulled in if I were to rebuild kdeutils-meta with cups: gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4 dev-python/pycurl-7.19.0-r3 x11-libs/xpyb-1.3.1-r2 dev-python/pycairo-1.10.0-r4 dev-python/pygobject-3.8.3 app-text/xmlto-0.0.24-r1 dev-python/dbus-python-1.2.0 dev-python/pycups-1.9.63 app-admin/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3 app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 kde-base/print-manager-4.11.2 kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.2 No mention of strigi-analyzer or gtk+. Strigi-analyzer isn't installed here because nothing depends on it. As for gtk+ : $ equery d =x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7 * These packages depend on x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7: app-admin/gkrellm-2.3.5-r2 (X ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) app-admin/hardinfo-0.5.2_pre20130823 (x11-libs/gtk+:2) app-crypt/pinentry-0.8.2 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) app-editors/bluefish-2.2.2 (x11-libs/gtk+:3) app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.3 (gtk ? =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2) (gtk3 ? =x11-libs/gtk+-3.2:3) (telepathy ? =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2) app-text/ghostscript-gpl-9.05-r1 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) dev-db/libiodbc-3.52.7 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) dev-java/icedtea-bin-6.1.12.7 (X ? =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2) dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.5-r1 (gtkstyle ? x11-libs/gtk+:2[aqua=]) gnome-base/librsvg-2.39.0 (gtk ? =x11-libs/gtk+-2.16:2) (tools ? =x11-libs/gtk+-3:3) gnome-extra/gucharmap-3.8.2 (=x11-libs/gtk+-3.4.0:3[introspection?]) media-gfx/gimp-2.8.6 (=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.10:2) media-sound/alsaplayer-0.99.81 (gtk ? =x11-libs/gtk+-2.10:2) media-video/mjpegtools-2.1.0 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) sci-misc/boinc-7.2.0 (X ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) sys-apps/lshw-02.16b-r2 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) www-client/chromium-31.0.1650.63 (x11-libs/gtk+:2) www-client/firefox-24.2.0 (=x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.6:2) www-client/opera-12.16_p1860 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) www-client/seamonkey-2.22.1 (=x11-libs/gtk+-2.14:2) (=x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.6:2) www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.327 (x11-libs/gtk+:2) x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7 (=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2) x11-libs/libnotify-0.7.5-r1 (test ? x11-libs/gtk+:3) x11-libs/wxGTK-2.8.12.1 (X ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) (aqua ? =x11-libs/gtk+-2.4[aqua=]) Don't ask me why equery is ignoring the version specifier in the command line. As far as I can see, the only packages that should be in that list are librsvg and libnotify, both of which only require gtk+:3 if the test USE flag is set, which it isn't here. Oh, and bluefish, which seems to need gtk+:3 for its printing, which I don't use; and libreoffice, which only pulls it in if you've asked for it specifically by setting the gtk3 USE flag. So it seems to me that you're safe. You could always run revdep-rebuild after letting all those packages be stripped out, just to make sure. HTH. -- Regards Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] recent trouble with wicd and systemd (non-global ctrl_ifname)
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/12/2013 00:47, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: At home I use a wired connection so did notice the following problem until I traveled and tried to connect wirelessly. The problem must have started sometime within the past month. If I have wicd started by systemd, i.e. systemctl enable wicd The wired network is started fine but not the wireless. Instead, I see in the systemd journal wicd[290]: Failed to connect to non-global ctrl_ifname: wired error: No such file or directory wicd[290]: Failed to connect to non-global ctrl_ifname: wireless error: No such file or directory If I instead systemctl disable wicd, reboot, and then manually type wpa_supplicant -i wireless -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B it works. Indeed after I have booted I can start wicd and cannot get the error above, but the actual behavior is not consistent. My system is ~amd64, profile gnome/systemd My wireless driver is from the package broadcom-sta (wl) I have never used wicd, so I can't say exactly what it's the problem; but I was under the impression that wicd is basically dead. Its last release was more than a year and a half ago. Regards. release more than a year and a half ago != dead In this particular case I think it is. the code the user has still works whether the devs adds upstream commits or not. Well, apparently not [1]. It hasn't bit-rooted, is not incompatible with everything else and doesn't have outstanding security bugs with little chance of being fixed. Checking [1] and [2], I would think that wicd satisfies (or *at least* starts to satisfy) the very definition of bitrot. So what's the problem? If the code worked perfectly, none. But apparently it doesn't; I don't know, I don't use it myself. The usual signs of bitrot are there, though. By that logic, zenity needs to have died 5 years ago but it's still around That's a really bad example. Zenity didn't had a 3.10 release, but it had a 3.8 [3] in march, so it's 9 months since the last release, not 18. Also, now zenity has a 3_10 tag in git [4]. And lastly, its lats commit was 6 days ago, and it had several bugfixes committed not three weeks ago [5]. On the other hand, wicd only has had translations committed in the last 6 *months* [6], and the development branch for 2.0 hasn't been touched in *3 years* [7]. This is only after a quick search through wicd and zenity repositories (and Gentoo bugzilla). Perhaps wicd has reached perfection and it doesn't need an upstream since everything simply works and there is nothing else to do with it. That would be a first in software history, though. I would simply not use it, and I will recommend any of its users to change to either NetworkManager [8] or connman [9], like pronto. [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bugs [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486440 [3] ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/zenity/3.8/ [4] https://git.gnome.org/browse/zenity/tag/?id=ZENITY_3_10_0 [5] https://git.gnome.org/browse/zenity/log/ [6] https://code.launchpad.net/~wicd-devel/wicd/experimental [7] https://code.launchpad.net/~wicd-devel/wicd/aqua [8] http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ [9] https://connman.net/ Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] recent trouble with wicd and systemd (non-global ctrl_ifname)
On 13/12/2013 14:57, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/12/2013 00:47, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: At home I use a wired connection so did notice the following problem until I traveled and tried to connect wirelessly. The problem must have started sometime within the past month. If I have wicd started by systemd, i.e. systemctl enable wicd The wired network is started fine but not the wireless. Instead, I see in the systemd journal wicd[290]: Failed to connect to non-global ctrl_ifname: wired error: No such file or directory wicd[290]: Failed to connect to non-global ctrl_ifname: wireless error: No such file or directory If I instead systemctl disable wicd, reboot, and then manually type wpa_supplicant -i wireless -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B it works. Indeed after I have booted I can start wicd and cannot get the error above, but the actual behavior is not consistent. My system is ~amd64, profile gnome/systemd My wireless driver is from the package broadcom-sta (wl) I have never used wicd, so I can't say exactly what it's the problem; but I was under the impression that wicd is basically dead. Its last release was more than a year and a half ago. Regards. release more than a year and a half ago != dead In this particular case I think it is. the code the user has still works whether the devs adds upstream commits or not. Well, apparently not [1]. It hasn't bit-rooted, is not incompatible with everything else and doesn't have outstanding security bugs with little chance of being fixed. Checking [1] and [2], I would think that wicd satisfies (or *at least* starts to satisfy) the very definition of bitrot. So what's the problem? If the code worked perfectly, none. But apparently it doesn't; I don't know, I don't use it myself. The usual signs of bitrot are there, though. By that logic, zenity needs to have died 5 years ago but it's still around That's a really bad example. Zenity didn't had a 3.10 release, but it had a 3.8 [3] in march, so it's 9 months since the last release, not 18. Also, now zenity has a 3_10 tag in git [4]. And lastly, its lats commit was 6 days ago, and it had several bugfixes committed not three weeks ago [5]. On the other hand, wicd only has had translations committed in the last 6 *months* [6], and the development branch for 2.0 hasn't been touched in *3 years* [7]. This is only after a quick search through wicd and zenity repositories (and Gentoo bugzilla). Perhaps wicd has reached perfection and it doesn't need an upstream since everything simply works and there is nothing else to do with it. That would be a first in software history, though. I would simply not use it, and I will recommend any of its users to change to either NetworkManager [8] or connman [9], like pronto. [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bugs [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486440 [3] ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/zenity/3.8/ [4] https://git.gnome.org/browse/zenity/tag/?id=ZENITY_3_10_0 [5] https://git.gnome.org/browse/zenity/log/ [6] https://code.launchpad.net/~wicd-devel/wicd/experimental [7] https://code.launchpad.net/~wicd-devel/wicd/aqua [8] http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ [9] https://connman.net/ Regards. I'm not convinced, your evidence is rather under-whelming. Yes, wicd is currently in need of a maintainer and some simple fixes per your [1] are not being applied. But on the whole the code works for the majority of folks, I can't find any outstanding CVEs and I don't see how you can qualify this as needing to not be used. YMMV, yes, but don't use it? Nah, I can't see a legitimate case. As for zenity, it appears someone has stepped up to the plate in recent months, but I clearly recall it being mostly abandoned for years. I needed it for winetricks as the alternative kdialog is just ... poor. But zenity couldn't be gotten to work at all. If we'd applied your POV towards wicd to zenity, see where I'm going? As for network-manager, we have years of history on this very mailing list of people reporting problems getting it to work in anything but simple straightforward cases. In so many of these cases, switching to wicd fixed the issue. In all that time, you are the only person that comes to mind often claiming that nm works great for them. Based on that alone, I classify nm as meh software which might work but all too often doesn't. As for connman, it works great on my phone but my limited experience with it on desktops was similar to nm. Admittedly both nm and connman might have improved by leaps and bounds in recent months and perhaps they are now awesome, but I don't see it. Just call wicd for what it really is at this point: ymmv -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] recent trouble with wicd and systemd (non-global ctrl_ifname)
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 04:47:03PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I have never used wicd, so I can't say exactly what it's the problem; but I was under the impression that wicd is basically dead. Its last release was more than a year and a half ago. I haven't read the other posts after this one, so apologies in advance if this has been answered. In my previous distro I worked on wicd with Adam and David (upstream). Adam left the project about 2 years ago. David asked for help about a year ago, and no one came. Right now wicd can't use nl80211, and that's the future. It would need extensive rebuilding, and it appears wicd is going to die (though it's not just yet). David is not actively working on wicd atm. Personally I'm looking at connman. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] recent trouble with wicd and systemd (non-global ctrl_ifname)
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 08:05:14PM -0500, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: thanks but I had done that and the command is simply /usr/sbin/wicd --no-daemon Perhaps relevant is Type=dbus Canek points out that wicd has had no new releases. Perhaps I should switch to networkmanager. I will try that tomorrow. Thank you both, allan Again, I haven't looked at the thread, and don't use systemd, either, but wicd needs to start in daemon. wicd - wireless connection daemon implementation -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
[gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
Hi all, had some troubles to build sys-kernel/spl-0.6.2-r2. snip Emerging (4 of 6) sys-kernel/spl-0.6.2-r2 * spl-0.6.2.tar.gz SHA256 SHA512 WHIRLPOOL size ;-) ...[ ok ] * spl-0.6.2-p1.tar.xz SHA256 SHA512 WHIRLPOOL size ;-) ... [ ok ] * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Found kernel object directory: * /lib/modules/3.10.17-gentoo/build * Found sources for kernel version: * 3.10.17-gentoo * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options... * CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE:is not set when it should be. * Please check to make sure these options are set correctly. * Failure to do so may cause unexpected problems. * Once you have satisfied these options, please try merging * this package again. * ERROR: sys-kernel/spl-0.6.2-r2::gentoo failed (setup phase): * Incorrect kernel configuration options /snap The problem is now: How do i set CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE in menuconfig? Maybe i'm completely blind... Thanks in advance for any help, Mosh
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
Am 13.12.2013 18:34, schrieb Michael Rühmann: Hi all, had some troubles to build sys-kernel/spl-0.6.2-r2. snip Emerging (4 of 6) sys-kernel/spl-0.6.2-r2 * spl-0.6.2.tar.gz SHA256 SHA512 WHIRLPOOL size ;-) ...[ ok ] * spl-0.6.2-p1.tar.xz SHA256 SHA512 WHIRLPOOL size ;-) ... [ ok ] * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Found kernel object directory: * /lib/modules/3.10.17-gentoo/build * Found sources for kernel version: * 3.10.17-gentoo * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options... * CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE:is not set when it should be. * Please check to make sure these options are set correctly. * Failure to do so may cause unexpected problems. * Once you have satisfied these options, please try merging * this package again. * ERROR: sys-kernel/spl-0.6.2-r2::gentoo failed (setup phase): * Incorrect kernel configuration options /snap The problem is now: How do i set CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE in menuconfig? Maybe i'm completely blind... Thanks in advance for any help, Mosh lol, done! As i thought...i was blind :D
[gentoo-user] Nut and networked UPS config
Hello all, I have a network accessible UPS (Powerware 9150 with the network option installed), so am looking for tips on how to properly configure a gentoo VM running on ESXi to initiate a safe shutdown during an extended power outage via this network card. Looks like nut has full support for this UPS, so hopefully it won't be too difficult... The host is a Dell R515, which does have an iDRAC6 Enterprise card in it, but I'm not sure if I can utilize the BCM to talk to guest VMs running under ESXi? Would appreciate any suggestions...
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On 12/13/2013 06:48 PM, Michael Rühmann wrote: Am 13.12.2013 18:34, schrieb Michael Rühmann: Hi all, had some troubles to build sys-kernel/spl-0.6.2-r2. snip Emerging (4 of 6) sys-kernel/spl-0.6.2-r2 * spl-0.6.2.tar.gz SHA256 SHA512 WHIRLPOOL size ;-) ...[ ok ] * spl-0.6.2-p1.tar.xz SHA256 SHA512 WHIRLPOOL size ;-) ... [ ok ] * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Found kernel object directory: * /lib/modules/3.10.17-gentoo/build * Found sources for kernel version: * 3.10.17-gentoo * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options... * CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE:is not set when it should be. * Please check to make sure these options are set correctly. * Failure to do so may cause unexpected problems. * Once you have satisfied these options, please try merging * this package again. * ERROR: sys-kernel/spl-0.6.2-r2::gentoo failed (setup phase): * Incorrect kernel configuration options /snap The problem is now: How do i set CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE in menuconfig? Maybe i'm completely blind... Thanks in advance for any help, Mosh lol, done! As i thought...i was blind :D You could at least say how you did it. *sigh* maybe even add the kernel part to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 07:59:41PM +0100, hasufell wrote: The problem is now: How do i set CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE in menuconfig? Maybe i'm completely blind... Thanks in advance for any help, Mosh lol, done! As i thought...i was blind :D You could at least say how you did it. *sigh* maybe even add the kernel part to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS mingdao@baruch ~ $ zgrep CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE /proc/config.gz CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=y What *is* so difficult about that? -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
[gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] Recent spurious error messages from systemd?
On 12/12/2013 07:01 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: For example, during bootup, systemd said that swap.target failed, but in fact swap was working normally when I logged in, and systemctl status swap.target showed no error messages. systemd also warned that lvm.service failed, but in fact the lvm drive was mounted and working as expected after I logged in. Anyone else seeing strange error messages from systemd during boot? Did you rebuild your initramfs? No, I don't use one. I notice that the stable amd64 machine is not showing the error messages, just the ~amd64 machine, so I'll assume it's a buglet and will go away with some future update. Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base
On Friday 13 Dec 2013 10:49:24 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 13 Dec 2013 07:04:23 Mick wrote: I rebuilt kde-utils meta with USE=-cups to find out that umpteen packages want to be depcleaned: ---8 I may leave this until I have more time to look into it. For comparison, here's the list of packages that would be pulled in if I were to rebuild kdeutils-meta with cups: gnome-base/gnome-common-3.7.4 dev-python/pycurl-7.19.0-r3 x11-libs/xpyb-1.3.1-r2 dev-python/pycairo-1.10.0-r4 dev-python/pygobject-3.8.3 app-text/xmlto-0.0.24-r1 dev-python/dbus-python-1.2.0 dev-python/pycups-1.9.63 app-admin/system-config-printer-common-1.4.3 app-admin/system-config-printer-gnome-1.4.3 kde-base/print-manager-4.11.2 kde-base/kdeutils-meta-4.11.2 No mention of strigi-analyzer or gtk+. Strigi-analyzer isn't installed here because nothing depends on it. As for gtk+ : $ equery d =x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7 * These packages depend on x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7: app-admin/gkrellm-2.3.5-r2 (X ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) app-admin/hardinfo-0.5.2_pre20130823 (x11-libs/gtk+:2) app-crypt/pinentry-0.8.2 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) app-editors/bluefish-2.2.2 (x11-libs/gtk+:3) app-office/libreoffice-4.1.2.3 (gtk ? =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2) (gtk3 ? =x11-libs/gtk+-3.2:3) (telepathy ? =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2) app-text/ghostscript-gpl-9.05-r1 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) dev-db/libiodbc-3.52.7 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) dev-java/icedtea-bin-6.1.12.7 (X ? =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2) dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.5-r1 (gtkstyle ? x11-libs/gtk+:2[aqua=]) gnome-base/librsvg-2.39.0 (gtk ? =x11-libs/gtk+-2.16:2) (tools ? =x11-libs/gtk+-3:3) gnome-extra/gucharmap-3.8.2 (=x11-libs/gtk+-3.4.0:3[introspection?]) media-gfx/gimp-2.8.6 (=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.10:2) media-sound/alsaplayer-0.99.81 (gtk ? =x11-libs/gtk+-2.10:2) media-video/mjpegtools-2.1.0 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) sci-misc/boinc-7.2.0 (X ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) sys-apps/lshw-02.16b-r2 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) www-client/chromium-31.0.1650.63 (x11-libs/gtk+:2) www-client/firefox-24.2.0 (=x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.6:2) www-client/opera-12.16_p1860 (gtk ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) www-client/seamonkey-2.22.1 (=x11-libs/gtk+-2.14:2) (=x11-libs/gtk+-2.8.6:2) www-plugins/adobe-flash-11.2.202.327 (x11-libs/gtk+:2) x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.7 (=x11-libs/gtk+-2.24:2) x11-libs/libnotify-0.7.5-r1 (test ? x11-libs/gtk+:3) x11-libs/wxGTK-2.8.12.1 (X ? x11-libs/gtk+:2) (aqua ? =x11-libs/gtk+-2.4[aqua=]) Don't ask me why equery is ignoring the version specifier in the command line. As far as I can see, the only packages that should be in that list are librsvg and libnotify, both of which only require gtk+:3 if the test USE flag is set, which it isn't here. Oh, and bluefish, which seems to need gtk+:3 for its printing, which I don't use; and libreoffice, which only pulls it in if you've asked for it specifically by setting the gtk3 USE flag. So it seems to me that you're safe. You could always run revdep-rebuild after letting all those packages be stripped out, just to make sure. HTH. Thank you both. Nothing depended on strigi-analyzer so I got rid of it, along with the rest of the list. @preserve-rebuild and revdep-rebuild were quiet. emerge -uatDv world brought up the original: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] net-im/pidgin-2.10.7-r5 USE=dbus gstreamer gtk ncurses nls spell xscreensaver (-aqua) -debug -doc -eds -gadu -gnutls -groupwise -idn - meanwhile -mxit -networkmanager -perl -prediction -python -sasl -silc -tcl -tk -zephyr -zeroconf PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 [nomerge ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf-0.10.31:0.10 [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gconf-3.2.6-r1:2 [2.32.4-r1:2] USE=introspection ldap policykit -debug -gtk -orbit% PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7%* -python2_6% 0 kB unless I add media-plugins/gst-plugins-gconf and gnome-base/gconf in package.mask I tried printing from kmail to a pdf file (not near a printer yet), and it worked fine with Kmail offering the familiar KDE print manager GUI. There is no print manager settings menu option in KDE settings; well I use E17 as a DE so without booting into the KDE desktop I don't know what may be available there that is not visible from within E17. There is a CUPS Manage Printing menu entry though, which fires up a browser with locahost:631 in the address bar. :-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
Am 13.12.2013 20:21, schrieb Bruce Hill: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 07:59:41PM +0100, hasufell wrote: The problem is now: How do i set CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE in menuconfig? Maybe i'm completely blind... Thanks in advance for any help, Mosh lol, done! As i thought...i was blind :D You could at least say how you did it. *sigh* maybe even add the kernel part to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS mingdao@baruch ~ $ zgrep CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE /proc/config.gz CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=y What *is* so difficult about that? well, you won't find it in menuconfig. Or at least I couldn't. You can reach that option in xconfig. On the other hand ZLIB_DEFLATE is turned on by a douzend of other options that it is VERY probable you never have to touch it.
Re: [gentoo-user] recent trouble with wicd and systemd (non-global ctrl_ifname)
On Fri, Dec 13 2013, Bruce Hill wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 08:05:14PM -0500, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: thanks but I had done that and the command is simply /usr/sbin/wicd --no-daemon Perhaps relevant is Type=dbus Canek points out that wicd has had no new releases. Perhaps I should switch to networkmanager. I will try that tomorrow. Thank you both, allan Again, I haven't looked at the thread, and don't use systemd, either, but wicd needs to start in daemon. wicd - wireless connection daemon implementation I didn't write that service file; it came with wice. So I believe it is correct. Also it works perfectly on my backup system. I certainly can try again with the --no-daemon removed and will do so this weekend. thanks for your help. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On 12/13/2013 08:21 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: What *is* so difficult about that? Nothing.
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:21:42 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: You could at least say how you did it. *sigh* maybe even add the kernel part to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS mingdao@baruch ~ $ zgrep CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE /proc/config.gz CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=y What *is* so difficult about that? Nothing, but you've not answered the question. you have only shown that you do have the option set, not how you set it. -- Neil Bothwick There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
Am 13.12.2013 21:08, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: Am 13.12.2013 20:21, schrieb Bruce Hill: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 07:59:41PM +0100, hasufell wrote: The problem is now: How do i set CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE in menuconfig? Maybe i'm completely blind... Thanks in advance for any help, Mosh lol, done! As i thought...i was blind :D You could at least say how you did it. *sigh* maybe even add the kernel part to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS mingdao@baruch ~ $ zgrep CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE /proc/config.gz CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=y What *is* so difficult about that? well, you won't find it in menuconfig. Or at least I couldn't. You can reach that option in xconfig. On the other hand ZLIB_DEFLATE is turned on by a douzend of other options that it is VERY probable you never have to touch it. exactly.. i couldn't find it in menuconfig. The answer was to set CONFIG_CRYPTO_DEFLATE=y manually in .config. After building the new kernel, CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE was pulled in and spl compiled without any problem. There is nothing difficult about that :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 09:08:54PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: well, you won't find it in menuconfig. Or at least I couldn't. You can reach that option in xconfig. On the other hand ZLIB_DEFLATE is turned on by a douzend of other options that it is VERY probable you never have to touch it. xconfig doesn't turn on options that aren't there in menuconfig ... you just might be able to navigate xconfig's interface better. Any time you can't see how to enable a kernel option, just search for it and look at the Selected By field to see what you need to turn it on: Symbol: ZLIB_DEFLATE [=y] Type : tristate Defined at lib/Kconfig:198 Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y] My personal preference is nconfig ... easy to navigate, nice colors on black bgd. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:53:39AM +0100, Michael Rühmann wrote: mingdao@baruch ~ $ zgrep CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE /proc/config.gz CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=y What *is* so difficult about that? well, you won't find it in menuconfig. Or at least I couldn't. You can reach that option in xconfig. On the other hand ZLIB_DEFLATE is turned on by a douzend of other options that it is VERY probable you never have to touch it. exactly.. i couldn't find it in menuconfig. The answer was to set CONFIG_CRYPTO_DEFLATE=y manually in .config. After building the new kernel, CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE was pulled in and spl compiled without any problem. YDIW ... it's never a good idea to edit .config by hand. Always use one of the make someconfig commands. There is nothing difficult about that :-) -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
Am 14.12.2013 01:04, schrieb Bruce Hill: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 09:08:54PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: well, you won't find it in menuconfig. Or at least I couldn't. You can reach that option in xconfig. On the other hand ZLIB_DEFLATE is turned on by a douzend of other options that it is VERY probable you never have to touch it. xconfig doesn't turn on options that aren't there in menuconfig ... you just might be able to navigate xconfig's interface better. I saw the option in xconfig. I did not see it in menuconfig. xconfig has a setting to show options that are only enabled by other options. Show normal options: ZLIB_DEFLATE is hidden Show all options: ZLIB_DEFLATE is visible and can be changed. Any time you can't see how to enable a kernel option, just search for it and look at the Selected By field to see what you need to turn it on: Symbol: ZLIB_DEFLATE [=y] Type : tristate Defined at lib/Kconfig:198 Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y] and you are missing half of it: Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y]) || CRYPTO_DEFLATE [=y] CRYPTO [=y] || CRYPTO_ZLIB [=m] CRYPTO [=y] oh look: crypto_zlib turns it on too. My personal preference is nconfig ... easy to navigate, nice colors on black bgd. but it seems that nconfig is hiding information from you, that xconfig delivers.
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
Am 14.12.2013 01:04, schrieb Bruce Hill: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 09:08:54PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: well, you won't find it in menuconfig. Or at least I couldn't. You can reach that option in xconfig. On the other hand ZLIB_DEFLATE is turned on by a douzend of other options that it is VERY probable you never have to touch it. xconfig doesn't turn on options that aren't there in menuconfig ... you just might be able to navigate xconfig's interface better. Any time you can't see how to enable a kernel option, just search for it and look at the Selected By field to see what you need to turn it on: Symbol: ZLIB_DEFLATE [=y] Type : tristate Defined at lib/Kconfig:198 Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y] My personal preference is nconfig ... easy to navigate, nice colors on black bgd. There's always a lot to learn :D I will have a look at nconfig and give it a try in the future. Many thanks for the tips, Bruce
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 09:47:44PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:21:42 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: You could at least say how you did it. *sigh* maybe even add the kernel part to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS mingdao@baruch ~ $ zgrep CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE /proc/config.gz CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=y What *is* so difficult about that? Nothing, but you've not answered the question. you have only shown that you do have the option set, not how you set it. -- Neil Bothwick There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot. As per another post, but my mouse paste came up short. Let me try again: Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y] ) || PSTORE [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] || CRYPTO_DEFLATE [=y] CRYPTO [=y] || CRYPTO_ZLIB [=y] CRYPTO [=y] Which combination depends upon your use case. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 01:13:06AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Any time you can't see how to enable a kernel option, just search for it and look at the Selected By field to see what you need to turn it on: Symbol: ZLIB_DEFLATE [=y] Type : tristate Defined at lib/Kconfig:198 Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y] and you are missing half of it: Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y]) || CRYPTO_DEFLATE [=y] CRYPTO [=y] || CRYPTO_ZLIB [=m] CRYPTO [=y] oh look: crypto_zlib turns it on too. My personal preference is nconfig ... easy to navigate, nice colors on black bgd. but it seems that nconfig is hiding information from you, that xconfig delivers. No, it was 100% user error. Trying to do 14 things at once, and no matter what any human says, when we multi-task we don't do *any* of the 1 tasks as well as we do exec task1 ; exec task2 ; exec task3 ; done Here's what I should have pasted: Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y]) || PSTORE [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] || CRYPTO_DEFLATE [=y] CRYPTO [=y] || CRYPTO_ZLIB [=y] CRYPTO [=y] -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
[gentoo-user] [gnome3 stable] Not as bad as I expected
I've been preparing for gnome3 for many months by running it in a virtualbox gentoo-guest machine. I missed a very important gnome3 feature by doing it that way :( The gnome-shell desktop has a 'gestures-based' feature, which exposes the favorites menu if you move the mouse pointer *very* quickly to the left upper corner of the screen. Who knew? Well, I didn't know until yesterday because virtualbox allows the mouse pointer to slide right off of the guest window onto my real desktop without notifying the guest machine, apparently. Anyway, the active-left-upper-corner feature saves me one annoying extra mouse-click when launching the apps I use all day long. That one extra mouse-click was a major gnome3 bug for me, but now it's just a virtual bug :) For us old gnome2 farts who don't know where to begin with gnome3, I'd suggest installing two gnome-shell extensions that may save you many hours of bewilderment: First, the settings center extension, which exposes several important sub-menus that are otherwise nearly impossible to find. Second, the system-monitor extension, which replaces the multiload gnome-panel applet that I can't live without. The gnome extension website offers several 'system-monitor' applets, but the one I'm now using is the one written by 'darkxst'. So happy :) I strongly suggest emerging the 'alacarte' and 'gnome-tweak-tool' packages from gnome-extra. They are not installed by default when emerging 'gnome', but I couldn't use gnome without them. Happy to answer any gnome3 questions if I can.
Re: [gentoo-user] [gnome3 stable] Not as bad as I expected
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:10 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I've been preparing for gnome3 for many months by running it in a virtualbox gentoo-guest machine. I missed a very important gnome3 feature by doing it that way :( The gnome-shell desktop has a 'gestures-based' feature, which exposes the favorites menu if you move the mouse pointer *very* quickly to the left upper corner of the screen. Who knew? Well, I didn't know until yesterday because virtualbox allows the mouse pointer to slide right off of the guest window onto my real desktop without notifying the guest machine, apparently. Anyway, the active-left-upper-corner feature saves me one annoying extra mouse-click when launching the apps I use all day long. That one extra mouse-click was a major gnome3 bug for me, but now it's just a virtual bug :) There's an even faster way -- something I couldn't live without and possibly the only thing that makes Unity/Gnome3/Windows 8 usable to me: Press the super key (the Windows key on my keyboard by default, but it's configurable). I *hate* having to use my mouse so much to access programs and in *all three* of these interfaces I can avoid the mouse much more with the same shortcut. Check out the Gnome Shell cheat sheet[0] if you haven't already. For us old gnome2 farts who don't know where to begin with gnome3, I'd suggest installing two gnome-shell extensions that may save you many hours of bewilderment: First, the settings center extension, which exposes several important sub-menus that are otherwise nearly impossible to find. Second, the system-monitor extension, which replaces the multiload gnome-panel applet that I can't live without. The gnome extension website offers several 'system-monitor' applets, but the one I'm now using is the one written by 'darkxst'. So happy :) I strongly suggest emerging the 'alacarte' and 'gnome-tweak-tool' packages from gnome-extra. They are not installed by default when emerging 'gnome', but I couldn't use gnome without them. Happy to answer any gnome3 questions if I can. [0] https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/CheatSheet -- Alecks Gates
