[gentoo-user] Strange problem with Ruby (vagrant)

[Alexey Eschenko]

   
>   
> 
>  
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> 
> /usr/lib64/ruby/site_ruby/2.6.0/rubygems/dependency.rb:311:in
> `to_specs': Could not find 'ruby_dep' (>= 1.3.1) among 71 total gem(s)
> (Gem::MissingSpecError)
> Checked in
> 'GEM_PATH=/home/skobkin/.gem/ruby/2.6.0:/usr/lib64/ruby/gems/2.6.0:/usr/local/lib64/ruby/gems/2.6.0',
> execute `gem env` for more information
> 

So I want to ask if someone at all have working Vagrant installation on
~amd64 or it's just broken?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Not enough RAM for dev-qt/qtwebengine build

[Alexey Eschenko]

Thank you. Didn't think about that. Don't know why though.My MAKEOPTS was "-j32". Looks like that was too many for package like qtwebengine.Solved the problem with creating specific environment for qtwebengine and setting it up in /etc/portage/package.env/It was vry long build process but this time it finished successfully. I think I'll try to find more appropriate value for qtwebengine which could be used with 32GB of RAM.Thanks again! 13.06.2019, 13:40, "tedheadster" :Alexey,  you can check /etc/portage/make.conf and see if there is aMAKEOPTS="-j8" or similar variable. If not, add it and make the numberof jobs small, like "-j2". I have a similar problem when I buildsys-devel/binutils; it is a huge memory hog.- Matthew 

Re: [gentoo-user] Not enough RAM for dev-qt/qtwebengine build

[Alexey Eschenko]

That was my first move. Unfortunately it didn't help.But in the first answer in this thread I saw a good idea about decreasing number of parallel build threads.I have MAKEOPTS="-j32" and it's probably the cause of my problem with this package.Right now I'm trying separate build environment with decreased job count value and it looks promissing.I'll leave the message with results in the reply to that message. 13.06.2019, 14:13, "Neil Bothwick" :On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 13:19:24 +0300, Alexey Eschenko wrote:  For some time I have problems with dev-qt/qtwebengine (at least 5.12.3) build. As far as I can see it fails to build due to memory exhaustion. Although I have 32 GB of RAM (at least 20 of them is almost always free) looks like it's not enough. It's strange because I have no problems with Firefox/Chromium/Libreoffice builds.Do you have $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on a tmpfs filesystem? I had a similarproblem, on a slightly less well-endowed system, and had to useportage.env to instruct that ebuild, as well as chromium and libreoffice,to use a directory on my SSD for PORTAGE_TMPDIR.% cat /etc/portage/package.env/qtdev-qt/qtwebengine disk-tmpdir.conf% cat /etc/portage/env/disk-tmpdir.confPORTAGE_TMPDIR="/mnt/scratch" --Neil BothwickAssassins do it from behind.

[gentoo-user] Not enough RAM for dev-qt/qtwebengine build

[Alexey Eschenko]

Hi.For some time I have problems with dev-qt/qtwebengine (at least 5.12.3) build. As far as I can see it fails to build due to memory exhaustion. Although I have 32 GB of RAM (at least 20 of them is almost always free) looks like it's not enough. It's strange because I have no problems with Firefox/Chromium/Libreoffice builds.The build ends with full (32GB/32GB) memory usage and significant system lag (mouse/keyboard input, output, video and sound is freezing for ~10+ seconds) every time and then Portage is marking it as failed with something like this in the end of the logs: https://cp.skobk.in/2096/ae027ec300f014f6Also I have something like this in the kernel log:Jun 13 12:42:24 skobkin-pc kernel: oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=/,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-1.scope,task=cc1plus,pid=39585,uid=250Jun 13 12:42:24 skobkin-pc kernel: Out of memory: Killed process 39585 (cc1plus) total-vm:1715764kB, anon-rss:1615872kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kBJun 13 12:42:24 skobkin-pc kernel: oom_reaper: reaped process 39585 (cc1plus), now anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kBIt's the first time when I encountered a problem like this on my system and now I'm thinking how to deal with it. Has anyone dealt with this? Is there any solutions other than buying more RAM  (I don't need more RAM for my work/entertainment right now)? Thanks in advance.

Re: [gentoo-user] Policykit problems (blueman, nm-applet, USB mount, etc) after some update

[Alexey Eschenko]

Still no answers from anyone :)

Also I've encountered other problem when ran gparted-pkexec:

> $ gparted-pkexec
>  AUTHENTICATING FOR org.gentoo.pkexec.gparted 
> Authentication is required to run the GParted Partition Editor
> Authenticating as: root
> Password:
> polkit-agent-helper-1: error response to PolicyKit daemon:
> GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: No session for cookie
>  AUTHENTICATION FAILED 
> Error executing command as another user: Not authorized
>
> This incident has been reported.

It can probably be related to this problem:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/polkit/polkit/issues/17

Maybe I need to post the issue to the Gentoo Bugzilla? Is it appropriate
for this kind of problems?

On 10/26/18 9:49 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Friday, 26 October 2018 15:31:33 BST Alexey Eschenko wrote:
>> I installed XFCE a long ago. But it was updated somewhen near August.
>> I'm using login manager as I wrote earlier when described reboot/shutdown
>> problem. It's unit enabled using systemctl enable.
> I'm not familiar with systemd, to know where logind obtains its $XSESSION 
> from, but someone else should hopefully contribute in soon.
>
>
>> I didn't set up sessions
>> manually. Nor am I remember to create this symlink. I think it must be part
>> of xfce4-session installation. Yeah. I remember using loginctl in the past
>> and there was always at least one session.
> Perhaps the Xfce file and symlink in /etc/X11/Sessions, or even /etc/env.d/
> 90xsession if installed, were part of the default Xfce installation - 
> assuming 
> Xfce is meant to be started with startx or startxfce4 from a console.
>
> Someone who runs both Xfce and systemd should post what their setup looks 
> like 
> for Alexey to compare notes with.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo hardware database

[Alexey Eschenko]

It would probably be better to add "--no-*" options for each probe
section. For example:

--no-fstab
--no-lsblk
--no-xorg-conf
--no-xorg-log
--no-dmesg

And to have the page in the hw-probe wiki where these sections (and
disable parameters) are documented. And then link to this page could be
added to the Privacy section in the README.md.

So in the result each user will be able to determine which data he want
to share without modifying probe files.

On 10/29/18 9:20 AM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:
>
> 27.10.2018, 17:56, "Dale" :
>> Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:
>>>  27.10.2018, 02:18, "Dale" :
>>>>  Alexey Eschenko wrote:
>>>>>   Is there any way to disable sending some parts of the collected data?
>>>>>   I've seen some of the last probes and found that there may be some
>>>>>   potentially sensitive data.
>>>>>   I don't mind to share my configuration with community but I don't want
>>>>>   to share some logs, mountpoint data and same other info.
>>>>  I'd like to remove a few things myself.  Some things such as file system
>>>>  mount points and such gives clues as to what they contain.  I noticed a
>>>>  couple other things I'd rather not include.
>>>>
>>>>  I noticed it builds a directory inside /root/HW_PROBE/LATEST/.  I used
>>>>  the command hw-probe-1.4-129-x86_64.AppImage -all but left off the
>>>>  upload part.  It collected the info but didn't send it yet.  I wonder,
>>>>  can we delete the info from the directory it created and then leave off
>>>>  -all but put -upload and it send only what we didn't delete.  In other
>>>>  words, build the files, remove what we don't want sent and then send
>>>>  what is left.  Do it in three parts instead of one.
>>>>
>>>>  Anyone know if that works?  Anyone who doesn't care what they send mind
>>>>  testing it for us who want to leave out some small amounts of data?
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>  Dale
>>>>
>>>>  :-)  :-)
>>>  Hi Dale,
>>>
>>>  Please use --log-level=minimal option to collect minimal info. Please let 
>>> me know if it still contains some unwanted info in this minimal mode.
>>>
>>>  I'll patch the tool to collect less info by default in 1.5 (you'll need to 
>>> explicitly set --log-level=maximal to collect mountpoints).
>>>
>>>  Thanks a lot!
>> I saw the other post and tried it without the upload option.  It still
>> causes me some concern.  What I'd rather do, instead of you having a
>> unique setting for myself and others with different issues, just be able
>> to remove what we don't want included and then upload the data that
>> remains. That would be the easiest by far option for you and other
>> users.  If it will work that way, you won't have to change anything plus
>> others will run up on this and know how to do it that way.  It also
>> means that others can adjust based on their own set of concerns which
>> may be different than mine.
>>
>> It did help with minimal but some things it didn't include, I was fine
>> with sending but some things still remain that I don't.  If I remove
>> other options and only pass -upload, will it only send the data in
>> /root/HW_PROBE/LATEST/ or does it rebuild the file list again and then
>> send?
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
> It will send content of /root/HW_PROBE/LATEST/ only. If you remove some file 
> from this directory then it will not be sent until you collect it again by 
> -all option.
>
> But I think it's better to patch upstream code or add some option that will 
> satisfy your needs to make the tool perform better by default w/o the need to 
> write a wrapper script.
>
> What unwanted files still remain in minimal mode?
>
> Thank you.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] www-client/opera not asking for master password

[Alexey Eschenko]

Hi.

As far as I remember Opera for Linux will integrate with your system
keyring if it's present.

Last time I used it I was asked for system keyring password eventually
when I started to set up some settings or tried to save some password.

Do you have gnome-keyring or something alike installed?

On 10/29/18 9:17 AM, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
> I recently started using Opera browser. According to the manuals it should be 
> possible to
> store web site passwords locally protected by a 'master' password (I don't 
> want to create
> an opera account). On my ~amd64 installation there is an entry in the 
> Settings menu
> showing the stored passwords but Opera never asks me to set up a password to 
> protect them.
> Is this a common issue or am I missing something in my installation?
>
> thanks,
>
> raffaele
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo hardware database

[Alexey Eschenko]

Is there any way to disable sending some parts of the collected data? I've seen some of the last probes and found that there may be some potentially sensitive data.I don't mind to share my configuration with community but I don't want to share some logs, mountpoint data and same other info.12:27, October 26, 2018, Andrey Ponomarenko :Hi,The Linux-Hardware.org database has been divided recently into a set of databases, one per each Linux distro. The one for Gentoo is available at:https://linux-hardware.org/?d=GentooEveryone can contribute to the database with the help of https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe (various packages for the tool are available: AppImage, Snap, Flatpak, Docker, ebuild http://gpo.zugaina.org/sys-apps/hw-probe, etc.). The tool is intended to simplify collecting of logs necessary for investigating hardware related problems. You need to execute only one simple command to collect all system logs at once:sudo hw-probe -all -uploadHardware failures are highlighted in the collected logs (smartctl, dmesg, xorg.log). Also it's handy to search for particular hardware configurations in the community and review logs for errors to check operability of devices on board (for some devices this is done automatically by hw-probe — see statuses of devices in a probe).Enjoy!-- Sent from Yandex.Mail for mobile

Re: [gentoo-user] Policykit problems (blueman, nm-applet, USB mount, etc) after some update

[Alexey Eschenko]

17:18, October 26, 2018, Mick :On Friday, 26 October 2018 14:41:53 BST Alexey Eschenko wrote: On 10/26/18 3:15 PM, Mick wrote: > You may want to check if you have left any manually created session files > in / etc/X11/Sessions/ and ~/.xinit or ~/.xsession. Thanks for the tips. But looks like it's not my case (or at least I think so): > root@skobkin-pc /etc/X11/Sessions >  > > # ls -l >  > total 6 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root5 Aug  9 16:14 Xfce -> Xfce4 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   11 Aug  9 16:14 Xfce4 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2187 Jul  9 11:05 XsessionOn my system only Xsession is now listed.  Did you install Xfce in Aug when the session file and symlink were created, or did you set these up manually?How do you start your X session?  Do you use a Display Manager to login? > As a result there were two sessions > starting as shown by ck-list-sessions I don't have ck-list-sessions binary in my filesystem. Looks like it's provided by sys-auth/consolekit which is not installed in my system right now. But I think it was until I moved to the systemd and then made depclean.Yes, systemd uses its own systemd-logind instead. Also after this I tried to list sessions with loginctl but I've got strange result: > > $ loginctl list-sessions >  > No sessions. I remember when I used it last time it showed at least one X-session...Hmm ... there should be a Session/User/Seat output listed as far as I know.  So there seems to be a problem right there.  I don't use either systemd or Xfce to compare with mine, but hopefully someone who does will chime in soon.-- Regards,MickI installed XFCE a long ago. But it was updated somewhen near August. I'm using login manager as I wrote earlier when described reboot/shutdown problem. It's unit enabled using systemctl enable.I didn't set up sessions manually. Nor am I remember to create this symlink. I think it must be part of xfce4-session installation. Yeah. I remember using loginctl in the past and there was always at least one session.

Re: [gentoo-user] Policykit problems (blueman, nm-applet, USB mount, etc) after some update

[Alexey Eschenko]

On 10/26/18 3:15 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Friday, 26 October 2018 12:14:17 BST Alexey Eschenko wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Some time ago (probably between two weeks and month) after another
>> system update I started encountering problems with some userland
>> services like blueman and nm-applet.
>>
>> I have encountered blueman problem every time when I logged in to my
>> XFCE session. Right after XFCE init I did see this:
>> https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/913
>>
>> Probably at the same time I became unable to enable my VPN connections
>> using nm-applet. After choosing my connection from dropdown menu I've
>>
>> seen the error in notification bubble:
>>> The VPN connection "..." failed to start.
>>> Not authorized to control networking
>> Third but not as likely related (not sure if it started to happen at the
>> same time) is XFCE shutdown/reboot problems. For some time I'm unable to
>> directly shutdown or reboot my PC from XFCE "Action Buttons" panel
>> plugin. If I choose "Restart" or "Shut Down" then XFCE just logs out
>> from my session and I will see SDDM. If I choose shutdown/reboot in SDDM
>> then all will be ok but direct shutdown from XFCE only logs me out.
>>
>> And fourth problem is that for some time I became unable to mount USB
>> flash drives from the file manager. In Thunar when I'm clicking on USB
>> drive nothing happens (even nothing in the thunar console output if I
>> run it from there). There is also nothing strange in journalctl when I'm
>> plugging my USB flash drive.
>> If I try to mount my USB drive using "sudo mount /dev/sdX1
>> /media/usb_flash" then all works perfectly. udisksctl which I've never
>> used in the past (but was told to try after mentioning this problem)
>> mounts USB drive correctly but only after asking root password.
>>
>> After reading the issue in the blueman repository I tried "fix" which
>> was mentioned here:
>> https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/912#issuecomment-427648539
>> https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/wiki/PolicyKit
>>
>> It did help with blueman error on XFCE start.
>> I'm not familiar with policykit at all but it looks like there was some
>> systematic changes in permission policies and I think that there must be
>> more correct and more generic solution than manually creating policykit
>> policies for every service which I notice problems with.
> I've experienced similar problems lately on a system where I had erroneously 
> left settings to cater for startx, but these were in addition to what the 
> Display Manager was doing (sddm).  As a result there were two sessions 
> starting as shown by ck-list-sessions and this created a clash blocking 
> things 
> like BT, USB mounts from userspace (on any DE) and the like.
>
> You may want to check if you have left any manually created session files in /
> etc/X11/Sessions/ and ~/.xinit or ~/.xsession.

Thanks for the tips. But looks like it's not my case (or at least I
think so):

> root@skobkin-pc /etc/X11/Sessions
> > # ls -l
> total 6
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    5 Aug  9 16:14 Xfce -> Xfce4
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   11 Aug  9 16:14 Xfce4
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2187 Jul  9 11:05 Xsession

> skobkin@skobkin-pc ~
> > $ ls -l ./.x*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 skobkin skobkin 72 Apr  2  2016 ./.xinitrc # here's
> only two commented lines which I used long ago
> -rw-r--r-- 1 skobkin skobkin   8149 Jan 12  2016 ./.xscreensaver
> -rw--- 1 skobkin skobkin 189985 Jul  9  2017 ./.xsession-errors
>
> > $ ls -l ./.X*
> -rw--- 1 skobkin skobkin 55 Oct 26 13:25 ./.Xauthority

> As a result there were two sessions 
> starting as shown by ck-list-sessions

I don't have ck-list-sessions binary in my filesystem. Looks like it's
provided by sys-auth/consolekit which is not installed in my system
right now. But I think it was until I moved to the systemd and then made
depclean.

Also after this I tried to list sessions with loginctl but I've got
strange result:

> > $ loginctl list-sessions
> No sessions.
I remember when I used it last time it showed at least one X-session...

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[gentoo-user] Policykit problems (blueman, nm-applet, USB mount, etc) after some update

[Alexey Eschenko]

Hi.

Some time ago (probably between two weeks and month) after another
system update I started encountering problems with some userland
services like blueman and nm-applet.

I have encountered blueman problem every time when I logged in to my
XFCE session. Right after XFCE init I did see this:
https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/913

Probably at the same time I became unable to enable my VPN connections
using nm-applet. After choosing my connection from dropdown menu I've
seen the error in notification bubble:
> The VPN connection "..." failed to start.
> Not authorized to control networking

Third but not as likely related (not sure if it started to happen at the
same time) is XFCE shutdown/reboot problems. For some time I'm unable to
directly shutdown or reboot my PC from XFCE "Action Buttons" panel
plugin. If I choose "Restart" or "Shut Down" then XFCE just logs out
from my session and I will see SDDM. If I choose shutdown/reboot in SDDM
then all will be ok but direct shutdown from XFCE only logs me out.

And fourth problem is that for some time I became unable to mount USB
flash drives from the file manager. In Thunar when I'm clicking on USB
drive nothing happens (even nothing in the thunar console output if I
run it from there). There is also nothing strange in journalctl when I'm
plugging my USB flash drive.
If I try to mount my USB drive using "sudo mount /dev/sdX1
/media/usb_flash" then all works perfectly. udisksctl which I've never
used in the past (but was told to try after mentioning this problem)
mounts USB drive correctly but only after asking root password.

After reading the issue in the blueman repository I tried "fix" which
was mentioned here:
https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/issues/912#issuecomment-427648539
https://github.com/blueman-project/blueman/wiki/PolicyKit

It did help with blueman error on XFCE start.
I'm not familiar with policykit at all but it looks like there was some
systematic changes in permission policies and I think that there must be
more correct and more generic solution than manually creating policykit
policies for every service which I notice problems with.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-391+ does not support latest GPU?

[Alexey Eschenko]

Before updating the nvidia driver, you should always check here: 
Yes I've checked. That's why I was surprised by Portage build log. I 
didn't build nvidia-drivers manually for a long time and do not remember 
where this GPU checks are (ebuild or driver package).


I didn't think that this driver will not work with my GPU. I was 
confused by the message and wanted to report. If it's ebuild-side 
problem then must I create an issue in the Bugzilla?



On 04/12/2018 10:01 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

On 12/04/18 16:31, Alexey Eschenko wrote:
Is this some kind of maintainer's mistake or does NVIDIA really 
messed up with drivers again?


Before updating the nvidia driver, you should always check here:

  http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx

and see if the version you're updating to is a beta driver or not.

As a long time nvidia-drivers user, I really recommend to:

  1. Use an LTS kernel series (latest LTS series is 4.14.x.)
  2. Do not install nvidia beta drivers.
  3. Do not use X.Org pre-releases.

Currently, that means these in package.mask:

  >=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-4.15
  >=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-391
  >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.19.99

Unless you're using Chrome, where 390 has a bug that makes it unusable 
slow, so you need:


  >=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-385

You need to check on the available versions these packages manually 
from time to time to see if it's safe to update them.


Also, nvidia driver version can be confusing. 390 is the latest stable 
series, while 384 is the "LTS-like" stable series. To be frank, I find 
it impossible to tell what's happening with driver releases from 
nvidia if I don't read phoronix.com news.


In any event, the TL;DR is that sticking to non-beta drivers and 
non-beta xorg and the latest LTS kernel will result in avoiding the 
majority of breakages.





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[gentoo-user] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-391+ does not support latest GPU?

[Alexey Eschenko]

Hi.

I've just read regular @world build log and found this:


 * Messages for package x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-396.18-r1:

 * * WARNING *
 *
 * You are currently installing a version of nvidia-drivers that is
 * known not to work with a video card you have installed on your
 * system. If this is intentional, please ignore this. If it is not
 * please perform the following steps:
 *
 * Add the following mask entry to /etc/portage/package.mask by
 * echo ">=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-391.0.0" > 
/etc/portage/package.mask/nvidia-drivers

 *
 * Failure to perform the steps above could result in a non-working
 * X setup.
 *
 * For more information please read:
 * http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html


I'm very surprised because I have GTX 1080 GPU:


# lspci | fgrep VGA
42:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 [GeForce 
GTX 1080] (rev a1)
Is this some kind of maintainer's mistake or does NVIDIA really messed 
up with drivers again?


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[gentoo-user] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-391+ does not support latest GPU?

[Alexey Eschenko]

Hi.

I've just read regular @world build log and found this:


 * Messages for package x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-396.18-r1:

 * * WARNING *
 *
 * You are currently installing a version of nvidia-drivers that is
 * known not to work with a video card you have installed on your
 * system. If this is intentional, please ignore this. If it is not
 * please perform the following steps:
 *
 * Add the following mask entry to /etc/portage/package.mask by
 * echo ">=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-391.0.0" > 
/etc/portage/package.mask/nvidia-drivers

 *
 * Failure to perform the steps above could result in a non-working
 * X setup.
 *
 * For more information please read:
 * http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html


I'm very surprised because I have GTX 1080 GPU:


# lspci | fgrep VGA
42:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 [GeForce 
GTX 1080] (rev a1)
Is this some kind of maintainer's mistake or does NVIDIA really messed 
up with drivers again?


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Re: [gentoo-user] net-wireless/blueman-2.1_alpha2 blocked by net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth - is it necessary?

[Alexey Eschenko]

Hi. Thank you for your attention. Try to remove the blocker in blueman, see if files collide or notHow can I remove the blocker in blueman? AFAIK it's not like adding package constraint to the package.unmask or something like that. I have no experience with writing ebuilds though.But I can check "equery f" for one package and then remove it, install another and check the same for it and then look for repeating file paths. Will it be enough? 09.12.2017, 17:08, "Mart Raudsepp" :On R, 2017-12-08 at 19:39 +0700, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > > Is it really necessary to block one package when another installed? Most of the time, the reason to make packages to block each other is  collisions (if they they contain files (like binaries or libraries) with same  install paths). Although, I can't guarantee that it was the case here.There was a blocker in blueman against gnome-bluetooth due to a filecollision with gnome-bluetooth. This was removed with 2.0-r1, back inOct 2015, as blueman upstream solved it.To me it looks like the change didn't make it to the live ebuild andthen eventually sometime after 2.0.3 a bump was made via copying from, not the latest version, thus reinstating the blocker, possibly byaccident. Or maybe on purpose, but I don't see an explanation for it inlogs.Try to remove the blocker in blueman, see if files collide or not, andif not file a bug against blueman, possibly with info that it mighthave been accidental reintroduction due to..., etc.  I've noticed that Gnome Team makes some decisions, that doesn't looks logical  for a few times already.Something not looking logical for you doesn't mean there isn't soundlogic. In this case, it's not us who have a blocker possibly wronglyreintroduced here.Best,Mart RaudseppGentoo GNOME team lead 

Re: [gentoo-user] net-wireless/blueman-2.1_alpha2 blocked by net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth - is it necessary?

[Alexey Eschenko]

Except that fact that I didn't unmasked it.

# fgrep -rni blueman /etc/portage
/etc/portage/package.use/blueman:1:#net-wireless/blueman

But I understand other possible reasons.

On 12/08/2017 07:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:

On 08/12/2017 15:22, Alexey Eschenko wrote:

It can be the issue. But older version (2.0.4) which is currently
installed works fine and has no conflicts.

It's quite strange.


On 12/08/2017 03:39 PM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:

Is it really necessary to block one package when another installed?

Most of the time, the reason to make packages to block each other is
collisions (if they they contain files (like binaries or libraries)
with same
install paths).

Although, I can't guarantee that it was the case here.

I've noticed that Gnome Team makes some decisions, that doesn't looks
logical
for a few times already.



It's not at all strange; it's quite ordinary actually.

Keeping in mind that I do not use these packages, or gnome, look at the
available blueman packages:

# eix net-wireless/blueman
* net-wireless/blueman
  Available versions:  (~)2.0.3 (~)2.0.4 [M](~)2.1_alpha1 **
{appindicator network nls policykit pulseaudio thunar
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 python3_4 python3_5 python3_6"
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4 python3_5 python3_6"}

2.1 is still in an alpha state, and it is p.masked:

/var/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org> (26 Jan 2017)
# Pre-release, masked for testing. Major changes since 2.0.4,
# including dropped support for BlueZ 4.

It is not unreasonable to conclude that blueman-2.1 intends to add
features that conflict with gnome-bluetooth and they can't co-exist. As
Vadim said, file collisions are often the underlying cause.

You unmasked an alpha package, clearly tagged as "for testing". Nothing
add abut the result you got at all.





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Re: [gentoo-user] net-wireless/blueman-2.1_alpha2 blocked by net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth - is it necessary?

[Alexey Eschenko]

It can be the issue. But older version (2.0.4) which is currently 
installed works fine and has no conflicts.


It's quite strange.


On 12/08/2017 03:39 PM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:

Is it really necessary to block one package when another installed?

Most of the time, the reason to make packages to block each other is
collisions (if they they contain files (like binaries or libraries) with same
install paths).

Although, I can't guarantee that it was the case here.

I've noticed that Gnome Team makes some decisions, that doesn't looks logical
for a few times already.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Package version bump policy

[Alexey Eschenko]

It's "This is not a final release, and it does have known issues, 
including a crash bug". But it can be used with PHP 7.2 to start 
upgrading applications.


Ok, I'll create the issue in the Bugzilla and let the maintainer decide.


On 12/08/2017 03:51 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:

On 12/08/2017 07:06 AM, Alexey Eschenko wrote:

Hi guys.

Some time ago PHP 7.2 was released. To start working with it I was
needed XDebug and it was released in "alpha" version: https://xdebug.org/

Is there any policy against version bumps for "alpha" versions or I can
create the issue about dev-php/xdebug bump in the Bugzilla?


It's up to the maintainer... we have no policy against it, but you don't
want to commit broken/untested packages to the tree obviously.

If the xdebug alpha is "we added php-7.2 support but haven't tested it
yet", then feel free to submit a normal version bump. On the other hand,
if it's "this new alpha version happens to support php-7.2 but also has
new features that might eat your server," then it would be better to add
it alongside a package.mask entry that says "masked for testing" or
something like that.



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[gentoo-user] net-wireless/blueman-2.1_alpha2 blocked by net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth - is it necessary?

[Alexey Eschenko]

After last portage package tree update I've got this conflict:

[ebuild U ] net-wireless/blueman-2.1_alpha2 [2.0.4] USE="nls 
policykit pulseaudio -appindicator -network (-thunar%)" 
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_4 -python3_5 -python3_6% (-python2_7%)" 
PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_4 python3_5 -python3_6% (-python2_7%*)"
[blocks B ] net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth 
("net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth" is blocking 
net-wireless/blueman-2.1_alpha2)


 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  (net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth-3.20.1:2/13::gentoo, installed) pulled 
in by
    >=net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth-3.18.2:2/13= required by 
(gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.24.3:2/2::gentoo, installed)
    >=net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth-3.18.2:= required by 
(gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.24.3:2/2::gentoo, installed)
    >=net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth-3.9[introspection] required by 
(gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.24.3:0/0::gentoo, installed)


I have a reason for using blueman and gnome-bluetooth at the same time. 
gnome-bluetooth is a part of Gnome environment which provides small set 
of basic options. blueman is more advanced and makes me able to switch 
device profiles or change some setting which gnome-bluetooth can not.


Is it really necessary to block one package when another installed?

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[gentoo-user] Package version bump policy

[Alexey Eschenko]

Hi guys.

Some time ago PHP 7.2 was released. To start working with it I was 
needed XDebug and it was released in "alpha" version: https://xdebug.org/


Is there any policy against version bumps for "alpha" versions or I can 
create the issue about dev-php/xdebug bump in the Bugzilla?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Internal compiler error when compiling Chromium-62.0.3202.75

[Alexey Eschenko]

Are you running early AMD Ryzen? Is you are then check this out: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Ryzen-Segv-Response14:36, November 9, 2017, Mick :Apologies in advance for the long post, but has anyone else come across this?[22099/28519] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -MMD -MF obj/third_party/WebKit/Source/core/core_generated/V8HTMLConstructor.o.d -DV8_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS -DUSE_UDEV -DUSE_AURA=1 -DUSE_PANGO=1 -DUSE_CAIRO=1 -DUSE_GLIB=1 -DUSE_NSS_CERTS=1 -DUSE_X11=1 -DNO_TCMALLOC -DDISABLE_NACL -DFULL_SAFE_BROWSING -DSAFE_BROWSING_CSD -DSAFE_BROWSING_DB_LOCAL -DCHROMIUM_BUILD -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -D__STDC_FORMAT_MACROS -DNDEBUG -DNVALGRIND -DDYNAMIC_ANNOTATIONS_ENABLED=0 -DBLINK_CORE_IMPLEMENTATION=1 -DBLINK_IMPLEMENTATION=1 -DINSIDE_BLINK -DGLIB_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED=GLIB_VERSION_2_32 -DGLIB_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED=GLIB_VERSION_2_26 -DGL_GLEXT_PROTOTYPES -DUSE_GLX -DUSE_EGL -DU_USING_ICU_NAMESPACE=0 -DU_ENABLE_DYLOAD=0 -DU_STATIC_IMPLEMENTATION -DICU_UTIL_DATA_IMPL=ICU_UTIL_DATA_FILE -DUCHAR_TYPE=uint16_t -DGOOGLE_PROTOBUF_NO_RTTI -DGOOGLE_PROTOBUF_NO_STATIC_INITIALIZER -DHAVE_PTHREAD -DSK_IGNORE_LINEONLY_AA_CONVEX_PATH_OPTS -DSK_HAS_PNG_LIBRARY -DSK_HAS_WEBP_LIBRARY -DSK_HAS_JPEG_LIBRARY -DSK_SUPPORT_GPU=1 -DWTF_USE_WEBAUDIO_FFMPEG=1 -DWTF_USE_DEFAULT_RENDER_THEME=1 -DUSE_LIBJPEG_TURBO=1 -DUSE_SYSTEM_ZLIB=1 -Igen/blink -I../.. -Igen -I../../third_party/WebKit/Source -I../../third_party/WebKit -Igen/blink -Igen/third_party/WebKit -I../../third_party/WebKit/Source -Igen/blink -I../../third_party/khronos -I../../gpu -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -Igen/shim_headers/libdrm_shim -Igen/shim_headers/libpng_shim -Igen/shim_headers/zlib_shim -Igen/shim_headers/harfbuzz_shim -Igen/shim_headers/libjpeg_shim -Igen/shim_headers/re2_shim -Igen/shim_headers/ffmpeg_shim -Igen/shim_headers/opus_shim -Igen/shim_headers/snappy_shim -I../../third_party/ced/src -I../../third_party/icu/source/common -I../../third_party/icu/source/i18n -I../../third_party/protobuf/src -I../../skia/config -I../../skia/ext -I../../third_party/skia/include/c -I../../third_party/skia/include/config -I../../third_party/skia/include/core -I../../third_party/skia/include/effects -I../../third_party/skia/include/encode -I../../third_party/skia/include/gpu -I../../third_party/skia/include/images -I../../third_party/skia/include/lazy -I../../third_party/skia/include/pathops -I../../third_party/skia/include/pdf -I../../third_party/skia/include/pipe -I../../third_party/skia/include/ports -I../../third_party/skia/include/utils-I../../third_party/skia/third_party/vulkan -I../../third_party/skia/include/codec -I../../third_party/skia/src/gpu -I../../third_party/skia/src/sksl -I../../third_party/libwebm/source -I../../third_party/protobuf/src -Igen/protoc_out -I../../third_party/boringssl/src/include -I/usr/include/nss -I/usr/include/nspr -I../../third_party/iccjpeg -I/usr/include/libpng16 -I../../third_party/ots/include -I../../v8/include -Igen/v8/include -I../../third_party/angle/include -I../../third_party/angle/src/common/third_party/base -Igen/angle -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -fno-strict-aliasing --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -fstack-protector -Wno-builtin-macro-redefined -D__DATE__= -D__TIME__= -D__TIMESTAMP__= -funwind-tables -fPIC -pipe -pthread -m64 -march=x86-64 -Wall -Wno-unused-local-typedefs -Wno-maybe-uninitialized -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-unused-parameter -O2 -fno-ident -fdata-sections -ffunction-sections -fomit-frame-pointer -g0 -fvisibility=hidden -std=gnu++14 -Wno-narrowing -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -march=native -O2 -pipe -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks -c ../../third_party/WebKit/Source/bindings/core/v8/V8HTMLConstructor.cpp -o obj/third_party/WebKit/Source/core/core_generated/V8HTMLConstructor.o  [22100/28519] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -MMD -MF obj/third_party/WebKit/Source/core/core_generated/V8Initializer.o.d -DV8_DEPRECATION_WARNINGS -DUSE_UDEV -DUSE_AURA=1 -DUSE_PANGO=1 -DUSE_CAIRO=1 -DUSE_GLIB=1 -DUSE_NSS_CERTS=1 -DUSE_X11=1 -DNO_TCMALLOC -DDISABLE_NACL -DFULL_SAFE_BROWSING -DSAFE_BROWSING_CSD -DSAFE_BROWSING_DB_LOCAL -DCHROMIUM_BUILD -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D__STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS -D__STDC_FORMAT_MACROS -DNDEBUG -DNVALGRIND -DDYNAMIC_ANNOTATIONS_ENABLED=0 -DBLINK_CORE_IMPLEMENTATION=1 -DBLINK_IMPLEMENTATION=1 -DINSIDE_BLINK -DGLIB_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED=GLIB_VERSION_2_32 -DGLIB_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED=GLIB_VERSION_2_26 -DGL_GLEXT_PROTOTYPES -DUSE_GLX -DUSE_EGL -DU_USING_ICU_NAMESPACE=0 -DU_ENABLE_DYLOAD=0 -DU_STATIC_IMPLEMENTATION -DICU_UTIL_DATA_IMPL=ICU_UTIL_DATA_FILE -DUCHAR_TYPE=uint16_t -DGOOGLE_PROTOBUF_NO_RTTI -DGOOGLE_PROTOBUF_NO_STATIC_INITIALIZER 

Re: [gentoo-user] Is anyone using Scaleway VM hosting?

[Alexey Eschenko]

Hi.


is it merely that "images" are copied when they're deployed, whereas 
"snapshots" are resumed and any changes overwrite the old filesystem? Are there any other 
differences?
Yes, like that. Snapshot is backup for one volume. It can be converted 
to the image for creation of new VM's or to the volume and then mounted 
to one of your machines. As far as I understand, "snapshot" is raw data 
which can be used in several ways.



but I lack confidence because this doesn't seem to be explained anywhere
I think it would  be better if you ask Scaleway support too. At least 
you will be sure that they know exactly what they are saying.



That sounds reasonable, but when I go to shutdown the VM and see this scary 
message - https://i.imgur.com/1E02DrP.png
That's one of their user-unfriendly interfaces. "Archive" will not 
destroy your data and make you able to create snapshots. On the other 
hand "Terminate" will actually destroy almost all resources of your VM 
(excluding IP, snapshots and images).



I assume that "Archive" is the same as shutting down my PC - the contents of 
the VM are saved, and I can start it up again later.
AFAIK only for LSSD. I didn't used DSSD and can't tell you anything 
about it.

I don't understand the warning about the DSSD being "totally erased without any 
possible recovery"
Me too. I'd recommend you to create support ticket and then post their 
response about it here.

I don't feel confident in what I'm asking at the moment - I feel like these 
kind of questions ought to be covered in the first pages of a beginners' FAQ, 
but I don't immediately find them on Scaleway's site. I.E. I'm asking dumb 
questions, or I don't know the right questions to ask.
Your questions is pretty relevant and logical. Their FAQ is far from 
ideal. When I was moving my VM's from dedicated server to Scaleway I had 
questions too. Don't hesitate and write them a message. After all you're 
going to pay them money and answering your questions is their work.



I can't help but wondering if I should have spent the extra €2 a month and gone 
for Linode.
I chosen Scaleway only to cut the costs of my not very important 
resources. If you don't mind to pay a little more then it probably may 
be not such a bad idea to use more friendly hosting company if you're 
confident in them.



are customers always billed on an hourly basis?

Yes. You will be billed in the begining of each month.


if I have a have VM that I only spin up when I need it, an hour or two at a 
time, for a few hours a month, am I right in thinking I pay only pennies for 
that?
Not quite. You're billed for many things separately. It's not only CPU 
usage that you pay for. Read this page: 
https://www.scaleway.com/faq/billing/


I thing it can contain answers for most of your questions about billing.

In other words if you stop your VM then you stop paying for CPU but 
don't stop to pay for IP, volumes, snapshots, etc.



Is this charging model common amongst VM hosting providers?
I've seen some other providers with such billing rules. Can't say that 
it's industrial standard but I think it's popular.



On 09/11/2017 02:40 PM, Stroller wrote:

On 11 Sep 2017, at 00:08, Alexey Eschenko <skobkin...@ya.ru> wrote:

I'm using Scaleway with Gentoo VM for two months. You can try to ask here but I 
don't know if I can answer to you properly.

Thanks.

I signed up for an account there a day or two ago, and set up a VM running 
Gentoo.

Scaleway provide a Gentoo VM image x86_64-gentoo-latest-2016-04-06_16:15, so I 
added a user account and a handful of essential tools and started updating it 
to latest.

Having updated the VM to the current tree, I want to make an image of the 
system so that I have my Gentoo minimal 9-2017 VM that I can copy and deploy 
any time.

The VM admin interface has sections for "volumes", "snapshots" and "images" - I 
assume they're all kinds of disc images, but I don't think I fully understand the difference.

I think:

• Volumes are active disc images, currently deployed in a VM.
• Snapshots are VM disc images, which are saved once the VM has been shutdown.
• Images are VM disk images which can be used as the basis for new VMs?

If my understanding is correct, I don't really see the difference between a "snapshot" and an 
"image" - is it merely that "images" are copied when they're deployed, whereas 
"snapshots" are resumed and any changes overwrite the old filesystem? Are there any other differences?

I'm used to running Linux on physical hardware, so I tend to think of disc images as being created if I boot 
from SystemRescueCD and `dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/usb-drive/old-pc.dd.img`. I can understand that, running a VM 
farm, one would probably want to have a bunch of disk images available to use - some of these I might label 
"my-gentoo-basic-master-2017" and "

Re: [gentoo-user] Is anyone using Scaleway VM hosting?

[Alexey Eschenko]

I'm using Scaleway with Gentoo VM for two months. You can try to ask 
here but I don't know if I can answer to you properly.


Also I'd rather recommend to write to Scaleway support. They usually 
answers in one business day.



On 09/10/2017 08:10 PM, Stroller wrote:

Further to my previous thread asking for VM hosting recommendations, I thought 
I'd try www.Scaleway.com, who are amongst the cheapest.

I have a question about snapshots and images, but I'm finding it a bit hard to 
articulate my confusion, and there's no point in writing more unless there's 
someone who's familiar with this.

Thanks,

Stroller.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with XFCE probably after last update

[Alexey Eschenko]

Seems like part of my problems with XFCE are somehow related with Dropbox.

I have now installed net-misc/dropbox-34.4.20 (older version have same 
issue). If Dropbox is started than I'm seeing the error message and 
loosing the notification area. Even if I try to add it to the panel 
again it will fail to start. If I then kill dropbox process then 
notification area became available to start without any errors.


I managed to reproduce same behavior on my laptop.

I don't think it's dropbox-only problem. Seems like dropbox only causing 
some bug in XFCE panel to show itself.



On 08/28/2017 05:17 PM, Alexey Eschenko wrote:

Hi everyone.

I'm experiencing some strange problems after last XFCE update on my 
desktop system (and less on my laptop).


1. (desktop only) After DE startup I'm encountering error message 
telling me that Notification Area plugin unexceptedly stopped (or 
something like that) with two options: execute it again and remove 
from the panel.
1.1. Restarting does not help on regular basis. One time it works, but 
next time it keeps showing this dialogue window again and again until 
I close it (and notifications disappears from the panel).


2. (desktop and laptop) Some icons in "Launcher" plugin now doesn't 
shows (see: 
https://storage4.static.itmages.ru/i/17/0828/h_1503929343_8878570_d6da7a7763.png 
). Some of them are detected natively from default application icons 
and some of them was added/changed by me to ICO/PNG files.
2.1. Some icons are still shown in the Launcher settings while not 
shown in the pannel in the end (see: 
https://storage1.static.itmages.ru/i/17/0828/h_1503929483_5621165_a51b37f6fd.png 
)


3. (desktop only) At the same time when I first encountered problem #1 
I also discovered that "qTox" messenger now starts in two instances 
when on previous system boot it was only one. There is only one 
instance of "qTox" in the "Session and Startup" -> "Application 
Autostart". May be XFCE now fails to merge "Session" and "Application 
Autostart" data to prevent this type of situations? Strange thing is: 
this bug encounters only with qTox. Nothing else runs twice (at least 
I didn't see anything like that).




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[gentoo-user] Problems with XFCE probably after last update

[Alexey Eschenko]

Hi everyone.

I'm experiencing some strange problems after last XFCE update on my 
desktop system (and less on my laptop).


1. (desktop only) After DE startup I'm encountering error message 
telling me that Notification Area plugin unexceptedly stopped (or 
something like that) with two options: execute it again and remove from 
the panel.
1.1. Restarting does not help on regular basis. One time it works, but 
next time it keeps showing this dialogue window again and again until I 
close it (and notifications disappears from the panel).


2. (desktop and laptop) Some icons in "Launcher" plugin now doesn't 
shows (see: 
https://storage4.static.itmages.ru/i/17/0828/h_1503929343_8878570_d6da7a7763.png 
). Some of them are detected natively from default application icons and 
some of them was added/changed by me to ICO/PNG files.
2.1. Some icons are still shown in the Launcher settings while not shown 
in the pannel in the end (see: 
https://storage1.static.itmages.ru/i/17/0828/h_1503929483_5621165_a51b37f6fd.png 
)


3. (desktop only) At the same time when I first encountered problem #1 I 
also discovered that "qTox" messenger now starts in two instances when 
on previous system boot it was only one. There is only one instance of 
"qTox" in the "Session and Startup" -> "Application Autostart". May be 
XFCE now fails to merge "Session" and "Application Autostart" data to 
prevent this type of situations? Strange thing is: this bug encounters 
only with qTox. Nothing else runs twice (at least I didn't see anything 
like that).


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Re: [gentoo-user] Bluetooth head phone

[Alexey Eschenko]

Did you just paired your headset or initiated A2DP connection too? It can be made from BT GUI like blueman AFAIR.18:11, July 17, 2017, Raphael MD :Hi everyone,
I'm suffering a lot to put sound on my Bluetooth's head phone.
The Bluez5 recognize my bt device.
The pulseaudio is working normally, but A2DP protocol do not appear in pavucontrol options.
I've followed the gentoo wiki, and looked at arch wiki to.
Anyone have a path to this be difficult task bt+headphone
Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox depends on rust??

[Alexey Eschenko]

For me it was a *slightly* less quicker start. Which I think don't means 
much when speaking about browser.



On 06/22/2017 11:09 AM, Danny YUE wrote:

On 2017-06-22 07:43, Rasmus Thomsen <rasmus.thom...@protonmail.com> wrote:

I'm using firefox-bin ( and libreoffice-bin ) on my laptop and I didn't have 
problems with either of them

Regards,
Rasmus
 Original Message 
On 22 Jun 2017, 09:34, Danny YUE wrote:

On 2017-06-22 07:23, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov  wrote:

Does anyone knows why? Any idea?

The reason is in that fact, that many of it's components are in rust.
And since it was possible to dodge it until now, maintainers considered it is
not a way since now.

And, by the way, it is not that many time to build rust, as you think:

Thu Jun 22 12:34:00 2017 >>> dev-lang/rust-1.16.0
merge time: 1 hour, 48 minutes.

Than was on 1.9GHz with hardly limited portage (MAKEOPTS="-j5 -l2",
NICENESS=18, ionice -c3, and cgroupped on cpu shares and ram).

So, ~20 mins would be enough on non-limited portage and full power of that i7.

Thank you all for replying.

So it can be around 30~40 minutes or so on my i5 machine.
Just it feels strange to install something large that I would probably
never use myself.

I am considering using binary package instead of compiling it myself.

But I am afraid that using firefox-bin package would cause some
dependency problem. I once tried libreoffice-bin, but found it really
painful to resolve dependency issues during system upgrading.

Anyone tried firefox-bin smoothly?

Danny
@mva.name>

Well, I ran into the same problem with libreoffice-bin *last time*, as
Alexey.

It seems that version number of libreoffice-bin is always smaller than
libreoffice. So dependency issue is always a problem with it.

I noticed firefox-bin only has *usual* packages as dependencies...
By the way what is the difference between compiled and binary firefox
from a user's perspective?

P.S. Someone told me that people in this list do not like top-posting.

Thanks.
Danny



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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox depends on rust??

[Alexey Eschenko]

Last time I used libreoffice-bin and firefox-bin, first was really hard 
to satisfy dependencies (I was needed some packages to downgrade to old 
versions incompatible to other packages in my system). But with 
firefox-bin a had no such problem.


But it was "last time".


On 06/22/2017 10:34 AM, Danny YUE wrote:

On 2017-06-22 07:23, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov <m...@mva.name> wrote:

Does anyone knows why? Any idea?

The reason is in that fact, that many of it's components are in rust.
And since it was possible to dodge it until now, maintainers considered it is
not a way since now.

And, by the way, it is not that many time to build rust, as you think:

 Thu Jun 22 12:34:00 2017 >>> dev-lang/rust-1.16.0
   merge time: 1 hour, 48 minutes.

Than was on 1.9GHz with hardly limited portage (MAKEOPTS="-j5 -l2",
NICENESS=18, ionice -c3, and cgroupped on cpu shares and ram).

So, ~20 mins would be enough on non-limited portage and full power of that i7.

Thank you all for replying.

So it can be around 30~40 minutes or so on my i5 machine.
Just it feels strange to install something large that I would probably
never use myself.

I am considering using binary package instead of compiling it myself.

But I am afraid that using firefox-bin package would cause some
dependency problem. I once tried libreoffice-bin, but found it really
painful to resolve dependency issues during system upgrading.

Anyone tried firefox-bin smoothly?

Danny



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[gentoo-user] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.13.0 segmentation fault in settings dialog (Bug 621704)

[Alexey Eschenko]

Hi.

After writing to Gentoo Bugtracker (621704) I received recommendation to 
use mailing list.


What information do I need to provide?

P.S. I have this problem on two of my Gentoo machines (laptop and desktop).

P.P.S. Just tried to rollback to previous (4.12.1-r1) ebuild and problem 
disappeared in this version. Looks like some sort of regression.


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