Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse pointer in Xorg?

2006-09-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Jeff Grant wrote:
 Can you change it on the fly? As in, I'm using Gnome - but it's mouse
 config doesn't have the boring core pointer as an option - and I like
 the boring core pointer.

Not for running apps, but any new apps you start will use the change.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with Emerge

2006-09-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Bill Six wrote:
 Hi,
 
 3 days ago I just switched back to Gentoo after not using it for about 6
 months.
 
 However, I've been having issues emerging packages.  Frequently, the
 build will crap out and I'll get something like the following.  Any idea
 why this happens?

Are they happening in unreproduceable locations? If so, see:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/20600

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 2006.1 profile and use flag changes

2006-09-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Richard Fish wrote:
 However, for the next gcc-upgrade cycle, I plan to ask (as a userrep)
 that the gcc compilation bugs not be closed until the fixes actually
 make it to stable.  That way at least the stabilization bug will
 continue to reflect just how broken the tree might get if it is pushed
 through.

Try to come up with a different solution, I don't want fixed bugs
clogging up my view of real, open ones. Perhaps a keyword like Testing
or so.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to make esearch run agains overlay too

2006-09-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can I make esearch scan my overlay too?  The esearch man page
 makes no mention of overlay, and none of the options appear to allow
 directing esearch to a separate portage.

eix is smart enough to do this, and it's nearly a drop-in replacement.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to downgrade X and its dependencies

2006-09-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
don wrote:
 I foolishly upgraded to xorg7, and found some things that don't work.
 I'd like to go back to 6.8 which is the last stable version.
 
 However there are a lot of packages that got upgraded, too many to list
 here.
 
 Is the a fairly simple way to get them all downgraded to the version
 that works with xorg 6.9?  If it were something less basic than X, I
 would just unmerege them all and re-emerge.  But removing X will remove
 a lot of things including some large applications (won't it?).

You can get a list of all the packages at
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/ and then do this:

emerge portage-utils
emerge -Ca $(qlist -IC $( modular-x-packages.txt))

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI Mobility TV-OUT

2006-09-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Grant wrote:
 I have a Dell Inspiron 7500 laptop with an ATI Mobility video card. It
 has an S-video TV-out port that I can't get working. I've read all
 kinds of stuff about it online, but I'm unsure which way to go.
 
 I'm using the ati driver right now but I've read that the ati-gatos
 driver might be better. I haven't even turned this laptop on in quite
 a while so it's running a lot of old stuff. Should I update x11-xorg
 to 7.0 and use a particular VIDEO_CARD flag and see if that works? How
 should my xorg.conf look?

TV-out is probably one of the worst-supported things in X right now.
There is no official X.Org driver that supports it. The gatos driver
purports to, although it may not work with 7.1. Also I think someone
posted a patch to the xorg list a few months ago to add it to the ati
driver.

If you're able to use the binary drivers with your card, you may have
better luck there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.28.8 - How to get DRM support?

2006-09-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mark Knecht wrote:
   With these ATI drivers what is the proper way to configure the
 kernel? I've tried it with kernel DRI support on and off. Is there
 some other setting required to make this work?

Try kernel DRM off, kernel AGP as modules. I think ATI finally stopped
distributing its own agpgart. Then you may need to stick your
chipset-specific AGP module into /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6.

   Should I be using a DRM from the fglrx package, from the kernel,
 from libdrm or somewhere else?

DRM comes from ati-drivers. libdrm only provides the userland library
and headers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorgcfg doesn't work: Couldn't get keyboard

2006-09-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Warning: Cannot convert string -*-helvetica-bold-o-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-1 to 
 type FontStruct
 X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
   Major opcode of failed request:  45 (X_OpenFont)
   Serial number of failed request:  817
   Current serial number in output stream:  821
 
 And after that, xorgcfg quits.
 
 I tried copying /etc/X11/xorg.cfg.example to /etc/X11/xorg.cfg
 and ran xorgcfg after that. Still the same error message.
 
 Am I doing something wrong?

Do you have media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi installed? xorg-server should
have pulled it in, and it should provide that helvetica font.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg 7.0 upgrade questions

2006-08-30 Thread Donnie Berkholz
James wrote:
 Still in /etc/X11/xkb the symbolic link flashes red
 indicated that /usr/lib/X11/xkb does not exit.

I've never heard of /etc/X11/xkb, and I don't have it on my systems. Get
rid of it.

 
 KDM will not fire up automactically. So I log
 in and run 'startx' and here are the errors I get:
 
 'failed to load module kbd (modules does not exist, 0)'

Perhaps you don't have the keyboard driver installed. Install
portage-utils and run `qlist -I x11-drivers` -- this should get
installed if you have configured the INPUT_DEVICES variable properly in
make.conf, or even if you left it blank (Assuming you aren't on a
super-old profile).

 and
 'Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such file or dir'
 
 On the mouse issue 'ls /dev/input' shows only this dir:
 by-path

Sounds like your kernel's missing mouse support, or you've specifically
configured udev to do something other than the default behavior.

 On my other xorg 7.0 systems I get this:
 # ls /dev/input
 event0  event1  event2  mice  mouse0  mouse1

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages for Python 2.3

2006-08-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Pupeno wrote:

On Tuesday 29 August 2006 05:24, Donnie Berkholz wrote:

You may need to modify the ebuild. Try adding something like this near
the top:

PYTHON_SLOT_VERSION=2.3

That's used by distutils.eclass, which mysql-python inherits.


Ouch! Is that the only way ? modifying the ebuild and loosing it for Python 
2.4 ?


Well you may not need to lose it for 2.4, if you also revision bump it. 
Portage doesn't support simultaneously installing the same version 
multiple times, that's why you need to change the revision number (or 
the package name).


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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia 1.0-8774 drivers not in portage

2006-08-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Daevid Vincent wrote:

I'm wondering why the new nvidia 1.0-8774 drivers don't show up in portage
at all? They were released 5 days ago. I would expect that the devs would be
all over this like #ff on rice. It has support for Xorg 7.1 finally!
Isn't that something we've all been anxiously waiting for? 


http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=535num=1
http://digg.com/linux_unix/NVIDIA_1_0_8774_Linux_Driver_Released

http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html

But then portage only goes up to 1.0-8762 and the last stable x86 release
was way back to 1.0-6629 which is a bit shocking since I've used 1.0-8762
for many months without incident. :-|

http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=nvidia


http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8774.ebuild?rev=1.1view=markup 
says it was added almost 5 days ago.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages for Python 2.3

2006-08-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Pupeno wrote:

Hello,
I am developing some software that needs to be tested against Python 2.3. So 
my Gentoo box has both, Python 2.4 and 2.3. Now, I need to have some Python 
packages available for both (or at least, for 2.3), for example: 
mysql-python.

How do I achieve that ?


You may need to modify the ebuild. Try adding something like this near 
the top:


PYTHON_SLOT_VERSION=2.3

That's used by distutils.eclass, which mysql-python inherits.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Neither klibc nor splashutils will emerge

2006-08-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mick wrote:
 Any ideas at all, please?

Tried bugs.gentoo.org? If you don't find it there yet, file a new bug.

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Re: [gentoo-user] XDM / GDM hangs when logging in.

2006-08-19 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Samuel Baldwin wrote:
I've recently installed GDM, XDM, and Fluxbox on a new Gentoo machine. 
When I boot to XDM, and login as root, everything is fine and dandy, 
with a nice Fluxbox desktop. When I login as my user, it just hangs on a 
black screen (which xdm used to do when it was pointing to a wm that 
didn't exist). CAD, CAB, and CAF1 do nothing, and I'm forced to reboot 
via the power button. I do not know why it is doing this (perhaps bad 
permissions for fluxbox?), and I would prefer not to do everything as root.


Did you run etc-update? Make sure /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers says vt7 at the 
end. Try changing XSTATICVT in /etc/conf.d/xdm if you already have the 
vt7 set in Xservers.


On the side, is it possible to customize the appearance of XDM (I know I 
can for GDM)?


Yeah it uses the fun Xresources stuff. You should be able to configure 
for your system in e.g. /etc/X11/app-defaults/xdm. See the xdm man page 
for details.


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Re: [gentoo-user] VMware player screen resolution

2006-08-19 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

I've just started using a VM built some time ago.  It has just VGA
screen resolution and
colors (ugh!).  Are there video drivers I could put in there (for Win
98 SE) that would
give me something like the real estate of my modern screen?

Or should I start over looking for a better VM?


Install the vware tools, there should be a menu entry in vmware for this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] dependency required by x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1

2006-08-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Pete Pardoe wrote:
 Hi All
 
 Havinbg a bit of a strange problem - an emerge -puD world is producing the
 following error.  I have tried putting it in package.keywords with the
 following ~x86, ~* and *  and none of them worked.  Any advice?
 
 ~
 
 Calculating world dependencies -
 !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel have been
 masked.
 !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
 request:
 - x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-1.6.0_alpha20060720 (masked by: missing
 keyword)

Not sure where you're getting those packages from, they aren't in the
tree. Contact the overlay maintainers and get them to fix the keywording.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which package has at?

2006-08-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz

darren kirby wrote:

I just realized my Gentoo has no 'at'

I searched but couldn't find as google will not consider less than 3 char 
words and equery only works on installed apps. Web interface to portage 
didn't reveal it either.


Where the heck is at at?

I would think it was one of the coreutils...wrongly it seems.


Many query tools accept basic regular expressions, namely ^ to begin a 
line and $ to end it.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix ^at$
* sys-process/at
 Available versions:  3.1.8-r11 3.1.8-r12
 Installed:   none
 Homepage: 
ftp://jurix.jura.uni-sb.de/pub/jurix/source/chroot/appl/at/

 Description: Queues jobs for later execution

This is more generally applicable than the other example of the -e flag.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is the best solution still NIS+NFS?

2006-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Leandro Melo de Sales wrote:
 OK. And about NFS? Is still the best one for file share proposes? What
 about CIFS?

NFSv3 over TCP is pretty solid, but if you're in a mixed Windows-Linux
environment you might want to look into CIFS.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is the best solution still NIS+NFS?

2006-08-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Leandro Melo de Sales wrote:

Hi list,

 few years later I setup a environment which shares the /home using
NFS for the users and the authentication method was NIS. Is this still
the best solution?
 My current environment is based on LDAP where all services use it. I
configured PAM+NSSwitch, Postfix, and so on. Now, I want linux client
workstations be authenticated remotely on my LDAP server and mount the
users home. What do you recommend?


You can use LDAP + pam_ldap for auth, I think there's a guide on gentoo.org.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update --deep world installs unwanted packages

2006-08-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Andrew Syrewicze wrote:
 I ran that command and they showed up in the list, among other things.
 How would I go about fixing that???

If you installed gnome, they both will get pulled in as they're an
official part of gnome as distributed by upstream. You may look into
package.provided (see the portage man page) to provide a fake version
if you really don't want them installed, but you're responsible for
anything that depends on them and breaks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Best IRC client

2006-08-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Anthony E. Caudel wrote:

So I'm wondering what the consensus is regarding what is the best irc
client under Gentoo.


A lot of people use xchat for GUI, it's gtk2-based. KDE has a couple of 
pretty good ones, too. If you want always-on IRC, the usual answer is to 
run irssi in a screen session on some server.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

2006-08-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Enrico Weigelt wrote:

Hi folks,


I'm just installing some X applications on an headless machine
and I'd like to have only the xlib client libs, no server stuff.

The problem is: the non-deterministic dependencies to the X libs
get resolved badly - it always wants to install the Xserver.


Lack of determinism has nothing to do with it, gtk+ hard-depends on an X 
server to build. I think this is fixed in 2.10, but the ebuild does not 
reflect it -- it still inherits the virtualx eclass.


Just set USE=minimal -xorg -kdrive -dmx for xorg-server and you'll be 
doing the best you can.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

2006-08-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Enrico Weigelt wrote:

I don't want to have an Xserver at all, so it doesn't anyting.


It requires Xvfb to build and install correctly, at least up until 2.10. 
If you want more info, search bugzilla or ask the gnome team -- I'm sure 
someone else has filed a bug about this at some point.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ dependency problem

2006-08-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 If you want more info, search bugzilla or ask the gnome team -- 
 I'm sure someone else has filed a bug about this at some point.
 
 Couldn't find anything. Perhaps you've got some pointer ?

No, I don't, or I would have given it to you. Instead, I told you where
to look and what to do next if you cannot find anything there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Planet Larry: Gentoo User's Blogs

2006-08-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Steve Dibb wrote:
 Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:45 -0600, Steve Dibb wrote:

 A few devs have setup an unofficial Gentoo project, a planet feed of
 blogs of Gentoo users. The site is available online right now at
 http://larrythecow.org/

 The idea is simple -- we already have Planet Gentoo[1] and Gentoo
 Universe[2] which pull in blogs from the developers, but we'd also
 like something that will give us a pulse on what you, the users, are
 up to.

 So if you use Gentoo, blog about Gentoo, or think about Gentoo and
 have a blog, send your website address and name and we'll get you
 added right away. :)


 I use gentoo and I blog about gentoo too. but my posts are not _all_
 about gentoo, so I'm not sure how that stacks
 up with what you guys are doing.
 
 That's fine.  In fact, that's how Gentoo Universe is setup.  Planet
 Gentoo only pulls in Gentoo-related posts, while Universe pulls in the
 entire dev's blog. We'll be doing the same thing, but for users -- any
 and all posts in your blog.
 
 I'm using Livejournal. 
 
 Okay, send me the link off-list and I'll get you added. :)

LiveJournal doesn't have a method to separate topics into separate feeds.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.27.10: total lock on logout

2006-08-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Richard Fish wrote:
 I have never used it, so I can't say how well the reverse-engineered
 driver works.

Pretty well on anything but the newest games, on which it tends to work OK.

 ATI has demonstrated very little interest in providing decent linux
 support.

This hasn't been true for at least a year, since they started a real
Linux team up.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.27.10: total lock on logout

2006-08-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Justin R Findlay wrote:
 Ideally a fully documented card is what I want.  That is why I've been
 following the open graphics project.

Your best bet right now is to buy something with Intel integrated
graphics. Intel's hired X developers to work on a fully open-source
driver, and it also contracts Tungsten Graphics for the 3D driver. If
you want to support open-source graphics, buy Intel, then send
ATI/Nvidia letters to tell them why they lost your business. Regretfully
there's not much that can be done for those of us who prefer AMD
processors..

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is the release date for 2006.1?

2006-08-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Alexander Skwar wrote:

Justin R Findlay schrieb:

On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:40:17PM -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

Well the main reason is because profiles will disappear from portage
after a certain amount of time, and you can't really run without a
profile!!


Right, but I still don't understand why it doesn't auto update when it's
ready,


Why should it? If I set the profile to $whatever, I've got my reasons
to do so.


because for people like me who rarely visit the gentoo main
page I'm not going to know about a new profile unless I manually look
around in /usr/portage/profiles.


And because of lazy people, other people have to suffer?


You get big fat warnings once you're using a deprecated profile.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-x11 problems

2006-08-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Pete Pardoe wrote:
 I tried to move to moidular X but it failed so I roled everything back
 but I
 now have a problem that has me stumped.  

You filed a bug for the failure, right? Monolithic X won't be around
forever ...

 When I do an emerge -puD world
 there are a whole slew of packages that are blocked by a non existant
 package.  I have xorg-x11 6.8.2-r8 installed not 6.9 but get the following
 in front of all the blocked packages.  How do I convince the system that it
 doesn't have this package installed.
 
 =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
 
 I have tried emerge --clean  x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9   and emerge --prune
 x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 and they both tell me that the package is not there.
 I have done a revdep-rebuild and an emerge --newuse --update --deep world
 and nothing has fixed it.

You may not realize = means less than or equal to, so your 6.8
installation would qualify.

If you want Gentoo to stop asking you to upgrade to the current stable
modular X every time you 'emerge world' then you may want to add
'=x11-base/xorg-x11-7' to /etc/portage/package.mask.

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Re: [gentoo-user] launching iptables

2006-08-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
James wrote:
 I'm aware of /etc/init.d/iptables the 'runscipt'. I do not wish to edit this
 scipt as 'gentoo' updates nuke my edits therein.  Where is the gentoo
 place of preference to launch my scipt after the gentoo runscipt
 '/etc/init.d/iptables'  is finished running?
 
 Is their a way to get 'rc-update add my_firewall  default' to launch
 my_firewall without putting it in the /etc/init.d/ dir and using the 
 runscipt template for my script?

You can run arbitrary commands in /etc/conf.d/local.{start,stop}.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Test for X from cli

2006-08-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz

John J. Foster wrote:

On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 03:43:12PM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

060801 John J. Foster wrote:

In a bash script, how can I test whether the script itself is being run
from a virtual terminal, or from an emulator like konsole within X?

'echo $DISPLAY' returns ':0' from Konsole,
but nothing from a raw terminal called up via  Ctl-Alt-F2 .


Of the different methods suggested, I like this one best.


This will also be set in ssh sessions with X forwarding turned on. You 
might want to check whether you're in one of those as well.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Foomatic should be added to the Gentoo Printing doc

2006-07-31 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Grant wrote:

I followed this guide to set up printing:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml

but it didn't start working until I emerged foomatic.  The guide
doesn't mention foomatic whatsoever.  My printer is a Brother HL-2040
laser.


The latest cups ebuild will force you to install some sort of drivers, 
defaulting to foomatic, on USE=ppds.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerging IFC - Intel Fortran Compiler

2006-07-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Richard Broersma Jr wrote:

Hello all,

I am trying to install Fortran for a school project 
my wife is working on.


Any reason you can't use gcc's Fortran compiler?

Are there any installation instructions better 
than the following ones?:


1) http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117452
   - my question with this link is, where is this overlay 
 directory that is mentioned?


2) http://gentoo-wiki.com/Talk:HOWTO_Installing_3rd_Party_Ebuilds
   - This link seems to have turn more into a discussion of the
 proper use of ~x86 in package.keywords


Why do you need an overlay? ifc's in the main tree.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerging IFC - Intel Fortran Compiler

2006-07-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Richard Broersma Jr wrote:

Any reason you can't use gcc's Fortran compiler?


I would be happy to, I didn't know there was one. Is there any docs that 
explain how to the gcc
fortran complier?


USE=fortran emerge gcc

If you're on gcc4, it's gfortran and is Fortran95 (and older) 
compatible. If you're on gcc3, it's g77 and is (as one would expect) 
compatible with Fortran77.


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Re: [gentoo-user] New Hardware...

2006-07-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Jerry McBride wrote:

Howdy,

I'm gearing up for a new hardware purchase and I find that I need a little 
help figuring out what is and what isn't linux compatible.


The days of pci, agp video and socket A hardware are slowly coming to a close 
and I'm itching to try something new.


Does anyone here run any cutting edge hardware, like socket am2 motherboards 
and pci-e video cards?


Sounds dumb, but I've no hands on experience with the new stuff and would love 
to hear from those with first hand knowledge. In particular, what hardware 
are you using and how does it work on your desktop? Any driver issues with 
xorg-x11, etc.?


My goal is to build a desktop, taking full advantage of the current available 
video hardware... maybe even use xgl on it too.


Anything would be welcomed. Feel free to email me off list if you desire.


As far as video, I would recommend a motherboard with Intel graphics if 
you want to support open source. The latest stuff is roughly equivalent 
to a Radeon 9250. Intel is doing a superb job of supporting open-source 
drivers and is the _only_ company with fully open-source drivers on its 
newest hardware.


If you still want open-source drivers but need better performance, check 
into a Radeon X800 XT or any X### where ### is less than 1000. Those 
will use the reverse-engineered r300 driver.


I cannot recommend any non-Intel graphics outside of the Radeon series 
8500-X850. Nobody in the open-source community will want to help or 
support you if you are using binary drivers, so there's nothing you can 
do if you hit a bug in them.


With the recent news that AMD is buying ATI, perhaps more good news will 
surface that ATI will open up its drivers and specs once again.


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Re: [gentoo-user] can't install ati-drivers

2006-07-26 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Stefán István wrote:
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r8  USE=bitmap-fonts dlloader ipv6 
 nls opengl pam truetype-fonts type1-fonts xv -3dfx -3dnow -cjk -debug -dmx 
 -doc -font-server -insecure-drivers -minimal -mmx* -nocxx -sdk -sse* -static 
 -xprint* 0 kB 

I missed the beginning of this thread, but you need USE=-dlloader to
use binary drivers with xorg 6.8.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11-7.0 upgrade question

2006-07-19 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mark Knecht wrote:
   I wanted to know if I leave the kernel and ati-driver package alone
 but upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0 will it work? Does xorg-x11-7+ force any
 specific kernel requirement?

With X.Org 7.0, you will need to install an ati-drivers package that
supports modular X. I did a quick grep and came up with this:

$ grep xorg-server ati-drivers-* -l
ati-drivers-8.20.8.ebuild
ati-drivers-8.21.7.ebuild
ati-drivers-8.21.7-r1.ebuild
ati-drivers-8.22.5.ebuild
ati-drivers-8.23.7.ebuild
ati-drivers-8.24.8.ebuild
ati-drivers-8.25.18.ebuild
ati-drivers-8.26.18.ebuild

If one of those is already installed, you will need to reinstall it to
get the correct, dlloader-using drivers.

There should be no kernel requirement from X.Org, any kernel requirement
will be by ati-drivers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts - FireFox - X11 ?

2006-07-19 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mark Knecht wrote:
 Did you emerge the font set that was in the xorg-x11-7 upgrade HOWTO?
 
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg
 
 # emerge -DuNav font-adobe-100dpi font-adobe-75dpi
 font-adobe-utopia-100dpi \
 font-adobe-utopia-75dpi font-bh-100dpi font-bh-75dpi font-bh-type1 \
 font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi \
 font-bitstream-100dpi font-bitstream-75dpi ttf-bitstream-vera \
 corefonts sharefonts freefonts font-ibm-type1

In general that's kind of a silly font set. No new apps still use bitmap
fonts (-75dpi and -100dpi). Probably the only ones worth having there
are ttf-bitstream-vera and corefonts, maybe sharefonts/freefonts if
you'll settle for lower quality.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?

2006-07-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Cliff Wells wrote:
 I'd be curious who this is well-know to.  The only XFS filesystem I've
 ever lost (having used XFS exclusively since SGI started offering it on
 RH 7.?) was due to bad RAM.  There *have* been a couple of issues that
 I'm aware of, but I'd hardly call it sucking.  

I'm too lazy to search all over the net for xfs power outage or power
loss, here's a couple of examples:

http://lwn.net/Articles/181355/
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=4#doc_chap4

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Re: [gentoo-user] Seamonkey blocking mozilla and mozilla blocking seamonkey

2006-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Jacob Klitmøller wrote:
 However when I try to emerge gnome I get
 
 [blocks B ] www-client/seamonkey (is blocking www-client/mozilla-1.7.13)
 
 or the other way around (mozilla blocking seamonkey) - trying to /etc
 /portage/package.mask is of no use since both is required. I have also
 tried fiddeling fith USE, but with no luck.
 
 How do I resolve this and get gnome 2.14 emerged?

Seamonkey is the replacement for mozilla. The old mozilla package is
full of security holes and no longer maintained by upstream, so we're
transitioning all packages using it to either seamonkey or firefox, if
possible.

The problem is that not everything is transitioned over to seamonkey
yet. I think if you add www-client/mozilla to /etc/portage/package.mask,
it will show you what package is trying to pull it in. You can then
search for / file a bug for that package.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Testing Xorg breaks terminal

2006-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Richard Broersma Jr wrote:
 I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this problem.
 
 I am testing various settings in the xorg.conf file.  Some settings change 
 the performance of X,
 others break X all together.
 
 Some setting not only break X but also corrupt all of the command line 
 terminals.  The only way I
 am able to restore the terminals is by rebooting the computer.
 
 Is there a way to fix corrupted command line terminals once corrupted other 
 than rebooting.

You could try 'reset' but that will usually just fix up corruption from
e.g. catting a binary file. Once the framebuffer's corrupted, it's tough
to fix. You could try fixing the X settings to ones known to work and
restarting X, that may fix whatever was screwed up.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X undefined symbols.

2006-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Andrew MacKenzie wrote:
 My last email didn't seem to make it to the list, I hope this isn't a
 duplicate.
 
 I've converted 4 machines to modular X, and one is having an issue.   
 My laptop (Thinkpad T43) is getting the following error when I start X:
 
 dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/i810_drv.so: undefined symbol 
 vgaHWGetIndex  
 
 If I run X -configure it complains about XAACreateInfoRec when loading
 i810_drv.so, and vgaHWGetIndex when loading vga_drv.so.  It also
 complains about VBEExtendedInit when loading the VESA driver.
 
 I've followed the conversion how-to.  I've set the dri USE flag.  My
 VIDEO_CARDS flag is set to i810 vesa.
 
 I've been unable to find any solution...  Does anyone have any idea what
 the problem is?

Please file a bug with this information, xorg.conf, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
and emerge --info.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg v7.0 trying to load modules that I'm not

2006-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Trenton Adams wrote:
 # grep -e EE -e WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (WW) Option XkbOptions requires an string value
 (WW) Warning, couldn't open module v4l
 (EE) Failed to load module v4l (module does not exist, 0)
 (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
 (WW) LoadModule: given non-canonical module name
 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
 (EE) Unable to open /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
 (EE) Failed to load module
 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (open failed, 2)
 (WW) Warning, couldn't open module radeon
 (EE) Failed to load module radeon (module does not exist, 0)
 (WW) Warning, couldn't open module Keyboard
 (EE) Failed to load module Keyboard (module does not exist, 0)
 (WW) Warning, couldn't open module synaptics
 (EE) Failed to load module synaptics (module does not exist, 0)
 (EE) No drivers available.
 
 I do not have radeon, or synaptics specified in my xorg.conf.  Any
 reason why it might try and load these instead of nvidia drivers?  I
 have nvidia specified.

If you would attach the whole log, we would have a better chance of helping.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular X upgrade

2006-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libddc.so
 (II) Module ddc: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0
 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8
 
 That's where it stops. I've ssh-ed in and tried to kill X (which is
 using 100% CPU) but I can never recover without a reset.

Mount your filesystem with the sync option and you may get more info in
the log.

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Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided

2006-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Jeremy Olexa wrote:
 Great, I knew there must be a solution for this issue. Thanks for
 interpreting the man page for me ;) Perhaps it could be more clear what
 site-specific overrides means but now I know. Thanks again.

Could you suggest wording that would make it more clear to you? There's
no rule saying the docs can't be fixed. =)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compile question

2006-07-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Jeremy Olexa wrote:
 Tony,
 Some ebuilds filter out MAKEOPTS=-jX because the makefile(?) is not
 written correctly to compile with more than one concurrent compile
 process. According to the OOo ebuild, -jX is not filtered, so that is
 not the case. Also, you may have checked the CPU usage when it was
 extracting the tarball, obviously the choke point here would be the HD,
 not the CPU.

Actually ...

# Should the build use multiprocessing? Not enabled by default, as
it tends to break
export JOBS=1
if [ ${WANT_DISTCC} == true ]; then
export JOBS=`echo ${MAKEOPTS} | sed -e s/.*-j\([0-9]\+\).*/\1/`
fi

Then later on, this gets passed to configure:

--with-num-cpus=${JOBS} \

To sum up, you need to set the WANT_DISTCC variable to use parallel
builds on openoffice because they're fragile.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11-7 emerge fails on libXt dependencies unmet

2006-07-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
   Sorry this is a little long but it's mostly cut and paste stuff.
 Using the instructions here:
 
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg
 
 I am at the point of emerging xorg-x11-7. It fails pretty much
 immediately with this message:
 
 checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
 checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
 checking for XT... configure: error: Package requirements (sm x11
 xproto kbproto) were not met:
 
 No package 'x11' found
 No package 'kbproto' found

...

   However if I try to emerge libXt by itself, it seems to have a list
 of dependencies that must be in place before it is emerged, none of
 which are being met for the xorg-x11 emerge:

Mark,

please save the output of emerge --debug --pretend with both of those,
and file a bug with it. I've been hoping someone would be able to
reproduce this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] X11 7 won't start

2006-07-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Gentoo wrote:
 After upgrading to x11 7.0, following the migration guide, I get the
 following error from startx:
 
 Fatal server error:
 could not open default font 'fixed'
 XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0
   after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
 
 I have numerous fonts in my xorg.conf FontPath, as near as I can tell.
 I've had this problem with both radeon and vesa drivers.  Any help
 appreciated.g

Make sure you've got /usr/share/fonts/misc listed in xorg.conf. Make
sure /usr/lib/libXfont.so.1.5 does not exist (1.4 is fine).

Remerge font-alias, encodings, font-misc-misc, font-cursor-misc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg and static libraries

2006-07-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Steve Brenneis wrote:
 Actually, none of that was my problem. The problem was solved by
 commenting out the ModulePath statement in xorg.conf. Now I just have to
 figure out what may have gotten broken by doing that. I think I'll just
 unmerge everything (in Xorg) and start over.

Nothing should get broken by doing that, that is the correct way to have it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Font problems with xorg-x11 7.0

2006-07-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Fredrik Tolf wrote:
 Hi List!
 
 I recently upgraded xorg-x11 to 7.0, as it was unmasked in stable.
 However, I was given some font problems along with the upgrade. I
 haven't found anything on either Google or on bugs.gentoo.org, so I'm
 turning to the list now.
 
 
 My main problem is that xfs (the X font server, not the filesystem) hogs
 the CPU for about 2-3 seconds whenever I start a new xterm, blocking the
 new xterm during that time. I haven't found the exact extent of programs
 affected by the problem -- right now, I only know that xterm and twm are
 affected.
 
 I've tried turning off xfs and moving the FontPaths into the X server
 itself, but that only made the problem worse (taking 6+ seconds instead).

Does a symlink /usr/share/fonts/fonts exist?

 There is also another, unrelated and rather minor, problem: The 8x16
 fixed font seems to have disappeared in 7.0. Does anyone know where it
 went?

Try font-schumacher-misc or font-sony-misc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Kernel Warning

2006-07-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Timothy A. Holmes wrote:
 As of this morning, the latest Kernel version in portage is 2.6.16-r12.
 It seems that there is a different versioning / naming scheme used but
 im not sure.  Can someone please let me know how to respond, or point me
 to appropriate reading so I can protect myself.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=git-commits-headm=115273802320119w=2
is the actual commit, with a fair bit of detail about it. You could pull
the 1-line patch from there and apply it to your kernel. There's also
the workaround mentioned in the SANS message if you don't feel
comfortable with patching, as long as you don't need to use core dumps
as non-root.

For gentoo-sources, the most reliable way to figure out what's going on
is the ChangeLog.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems upgrading X

2006-07-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Pablo Antonio wrote:
 Hello,
   I don't know if this was asked previously or someone had the
 same problem I'm about to talk about. If that is the case, please
 redirect me to some place where I can find the answer.
 
 I tried to upgrade to modular X religiously following the Migrating to
 Modular X HOWTO. I removed the old X and installed the new one.
 Everything was fine until I rebooted and tried to open my favourite
 terminal (uxterm), but it wouldn't. It gave the following error:
 
 xterm: error while loading shared libraries: libXaw.so.8: cannot open
 shared object file: No such file or directory

Quick fix: add this to /etc/portage/package.use
x11-libs/libXaw xprint

and remerge libXaw.

 That's when I recalled I had to do a revdep-rebuild before complaining
 :), but it failed while doing a certain emerge (last lines):
 
 In file included from main.c:21:
 menu.h:28:23: error: menu-tree.h: No such file or directory
 make[3]: *** [main.o] Error 1
 make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/gnome-panel-2.10.2/work/gnome-panel-2.10.2/gnome-panel'
 make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/gnome-panel-2.10.2/work/gnome-panel-2.10.2/gnome-panel'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/gnome-panel-2.10.2/work/gnome-panel-2.10.2'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 
 !!! ERROR: gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.10.2 failed.
 Call stack:
   ebuild.sh, line 1539:   Called dyn_compile
   ebuild.sh, line 939:   Called src_compile
   gnome-panel-2.10.2.ebuild, line 50:   Called die
 
 Thus, it wasn't able to continue with the next emerges. The questions
 are: First, how can I fix this? 

Sounds like a gnome-panel bug, not related to Xorg at all. Have you
searched bugzilla?

 Last, but not least, scrolling down in firefox works abnormally slow for
 some reason. Does this -again- have something to do with all the other
 problems?

Doubtful.

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Re: [gentoo-user] FTPs - Is there such a thing?

2006-07-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 What I meant is secure ftp.
 sort of like httpS as an alternative to http.
 
 short of wrapping/tunneling ftp traffic through SSH. (That's simple)

It's called sftp, and openssh does it with this in /etc/ssh/sshd_config:

# override default of no subsystems
Subsystem   sftp/usr/lib/misc/sftp-server

Most SSH clients will do it, FTP clients may not.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: virtual Windows solution...

2006-07-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Peter Ruskin wrote:
 The free vmware-player will unfortunately refuse to work if you have 
 more than one processor.
 
 Win4LinPro works pretty well (win4lin.com), is cheaper than vmware, 
 but nonetheless pricy.
 
 Parallels Workstation (parallels.com) is much more reasonably 
 priced, but won't work with kernel 2.6.17.

vmware-server is free, but only in the vmware overlay at present.

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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/share/fonts/TTF doesn't exist

2006-07-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Richard Fish wrote:
 Just make sure that every directory produced by this command has a
 FontPath entry:
 find /usr/share/fonts/* -type d

I wouldn't worry too much about this anyhow, only really old apps use
FontPath entries. Most new ones use fontconfig, which searches
/usr/share/fonts/ recursively.

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Re: [gentoo-user] XKB docs

2006-07-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Peter Ruskin wrote:
 You aren't the only one.  While trying to fix my perceived problem I 
 searched through the documentation provided by xorg-docs.  All I 
 got was a headache.  I wish there were a user-friendly doc that 
 explained all those config options like XkbOptions, XkbLayout, etc.

Here's a few ideas:

http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/xkb/
http://pascal.tsu.ru/en/xkb/
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/doc/html/XKB-Config.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/share/fonts/TTF doesn't exist

2006-07-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mick wrote:
 Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/default, removing from list!
 Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/encodings, removing from 
 list!
 Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/local, removing from list!

You probably don't have fonts sitting in any of those directories.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Font missing after xorg upgrade

2006-07-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
darren kirby wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I just completed upgrading to Xorg 7.0 and it went fine, however, I seem to 
 be 
 missing Courier 10 pitch which was the only monospaced font that looks 
 decent on my screen. When I started X all my monospaced fonts were set as 
 courier which looks terrible.
 
 Does anyone know where to get this font back? I did a google but it did not 
 help. 
 
 Thanks for consideration,
 -d 

Try font-adobe-100dpi or font-adobe-75dpi or possibly font-ibm-type1.

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Re: [gentoo-user] hardened: setuid

2006-07-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
James wrote:
 Hello
 
 I was performing a routine security audit using:
 
 find / -user root -perm -4000 -print
 
 which found these peculiar files:
 
 /usr/athena/bin/su
 /usr/athena/bin/otp
 /usr/athena/bin/rcp
 /usr/athena/bin/rsh
 /usr/athena/bin/rlogin
 
 
 upon greater inspection this is most troubling:
 
 -rws--x--x 1 root root 108416 May  4 19:52 /usr/athena/bin/su
 -rws--x--x 1 root root 105640 May  4 19:52 /usr/athena/bin/otp
 -rws--x--x 1 root root 95840 May  4 19:52 /usr/athena/bin/rlogin
 
 
 Are these part of a normal gentoo system running hardened, or is it 
 time to re-install this machine?

Have you tried checking which (if any) packages own these files? Have
you built anything yourself outside of portage that could have installed
them?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Update system

2006-07-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Juliano Morais Barbosa wrote:
 skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libX11.a when searching for -lX11
 
 /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/l
 d:
 
 cannot find -lX11
 
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Hm, I'd bet it's that problem that comes up with randomly missing files
from modular X packages.

This might fix it, although it will take a while:
emerge -e libX11

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Re: [gentoo-user] Font missing after xorg upgrade

2006-07-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
darren kirby wrote:
 quoth the Donnie Berkholz:
 darren kirby wrote:
 Hello all,

 I just completed upgrading to Xorg 7.0 and it went fine, however, I seem
 to be missing Courier 10 pitch which was the only monospaced font that
 looks decent on my screen. When I started X all my monospaced fonts were
 set as courier which looks terrible.

 Does anyone know where to get this font back? I did a google but it did
 not help.

 Thanks for consideration,
 -d
 Try font-adobe-100dpi or font-adobe-75dpi or possibly font-ibm-type1.
 
 The adobe fonts were already installed (no 10 pitch) and I installed the IBM 
 fonts and it was not there either. However, Courier [IBM] seems to look 
 fine, and will be suitable.
 
 I would still like to know where the 10 pitch is if anybody knows... 

Oh, do you not have ttf-bitstream-vera installed? It looks like I've got
bitstream fonts providing it, maybe font-bitstream-type1 if you can't
get it from the other.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Font missing after xorg upgrade

2006-07-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 I notice that some of the fonts you mention are keyword masked (at
 least on x86).  For example font-bitstream-* (except for -vera) and
 font-ibm-type1.  Are these fonts less tested?  Would you recommend
 unmasking all of them?  Would you want me to file a bug asking for
 stabilization?  I should add that I am not at all hurting with just
 the (stable) fonts that I do have installed.

I've mentioned this elsewhere, but the idea is that we're trying to
figure out which programs, fonts, etc people really use and need. If you
actually use something (not just install it and never use the fonts or
whatever), please file a bug requesting that it be stabled.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: hardened: setuid

2006-07-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
James wrote:
 Donnie Berkholz dberkholz at gentoo.org writes:
 Have you tried checking which (if any) packages own these files? Have
 you built anything yourself outside of portage that could have installed
 them?
 
 Well I used --tree and it revealed nothing.

--tree? How does it tell you what owns these files? Try something like
equery or qfile (gentoolkit or portage-utils).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Keyboard Layout

2006-07-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Cláudio Henrique wrote:
 hi, there,
 I've beem having problems setting my kbd layout. I added a line in
 xorg.conf telling it to use us_intl as my kbd layout, but it seems
 to be ignoring it.
 as a consequence, I have to execute setxkbmap us_intl every time I
 enter Gnome. I also tried adding it to ~/.xinitrc .

If you're on stable (7.0 or above), us_intl no longer exists.

You probably want this in xorg.conf:
Option XkbLayout latin
Option XkbOptions lv3:ralt_switch

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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular Xorg login rights

2006-07-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mick wrote:
 Other than the status of the Xorg the two machines are pretty much set
 up identical.  Could someone please explain why this message is now
 coming up in chkrootkit and if there is something I need to change in
 my settings?

In modular X, we've enhanced the xdm init script to run sessreg to
register logins. `grep sessreg /usr/lib/X11/xdm/*` to see exactly what's
happening.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I ensure all fontpaths are loaded?

2006-07-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Walter Dnes wrote:
   The subject says it all.  As part of the Xorg7 update I emerged some
 font groups.  How do I find all the directories and include them
 xorg.conf?

ls /usr/share/fonts/ -- all Gentoo font packages install there.

Add each dir to xorg.conf as another FontPath directive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers ebuild?

2006-07-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Alan E. Davis wrote:
 I haven't noticed this ebuild before.  I am seeing a new ebuild in
 
   /usr/portage/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
 
 Can someone explain this?  I can only hope this is the end of a long
 and troubling issue with xorg and nvidia-kernel.    I fear not,
 however: (I am running with ~amd64)

The nvidia driver maintainers decided to switch them to a single ebuild,
since it matches how they're distributed and makes a number of issues
easier related to maintainance, FreeBSD drivers and, for users, version
mismatches between kernel module and userland driver.

Also note the new nvidia-legacy-drivers package for older cards, so you
don't need to fiddle around with package.mask anymore.

 |  RDEPEND=kernel_linux? ( virtual/modutils |
 | || ( x11-base/xorg-server virtual/x11 |
 | !=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99
 | || ( media-libs/mesa virtual/x11 )
 | app-admin/eselect-opengl
 | kernel_linux? ( !media-video/nvidia-kernel )
 | kernel_FreeBSD? ( !media-video/nvidia-freebsd )
 | !app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-nvidia
 | !x11-drivers/nvidia-legacy-drivers
 | !media-video/nvidia-glx
 
 Maybe I just didn't notice this before?  I think not, however.  I have
 found a couple of messages on the forum referring to nvidia-drivers as
 a new replacement (??) for nvidia-kernel/nvidia-glx.  Does this mean a
 major xorg downgrade?

No binary drivers currently exist for use with xorg 7.1, so you'll need
to downgrade xorg-server to 1.0.x and any drivers (`emerge portage-utils
 qlist -I x11-drivers/`) if you want binary drivers. That's what's
holding 7.1 from being marked stable on x86 and amd64.

 I have nvidia drivers and glx working pretty well, with only very
 minimal redrawing issues maybe two or three times over the last 24
 hours.  Should one avoid any upgrade, or what?  If so, HOW?

Uninstall nvidia-* and install nvidia-drivers.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] Sun SparcStation 5 (Gentoo LiveCD)

2006-07-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Grzegorz Sójka wrote:
 Hi there!
 
 I decided to set up GenToo linux on Sun SparcStation 5. Since this
 computer is quite old (32 bit architecture, 170MHz CPU) I need a bit
 older version of Getoo (I do not think that this old hardware is
 supported by new versions). So my question is where can I find the
 Gentoo 2004.x LiveCD for SPARC? I did search ftp archives but
 unfortunately I was not able to find it.

Try the gentoo-sparc list, they can give you more specific help and
definitely tell you whether you need an older LiveCD.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] modular X, nvidia, and unresolved symbols

2006-07-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
John Blinka wrote:
 Symbol fbCloseScreen from module
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o is unresolved!

See how all your nvidia driver ends with .o instead of .so? That means
you didn't build the drivers with USE=dlloader (which is now set by
default).

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-6.8 -- xorg-7.0 -- 6.8 -- 7.0 impossible?

2006-07-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Grant wrote:
 Would 'emerge -eK world' be OK so I don't have to recompile?

As long as you created the packages before downgrading to monolithic (6.x).

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] DRI? ATI X300 PCIe

2006-07-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
fire-eyes wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am interested in getting my ATI X300 (r300 or r370, conflicting info out 
 there), which is a PCIe card, working with DRI with open source drivers. I am 
 using xorg-x11-7.1 .
 
 Any ideas? I am specifically looking for ways of doing this not including 
 messing with overlays, that is a major pain, and (opinon) I shouldn't have to 
 do that anyway.

There are one or two patches to Mesa post-6.5 that fix PCIE support, I
think by Dave Airlie (airlied). If you'd like to find them, I would be
happy to add them to the ebuild. Just file a request bug with a pointer
to the patch.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] Switching from X to a VT

2006-07-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Statux wrote:
 I don't know if this has been asked yet/recently, but I've noticed that
 I cannot use the ctrl+alt+F? sequence to pop out of X since my upgrade
 to xorg 7.0. I'm assuming that ctrl+alt+backspace won't kill the server
 either.

This usually means your XKB is broken.

First, make sure you're on a recent sync and remerge xkeyboard-config
--oneshot. Next, try running setxkbmap to see what error messages you get:

# prints current layout -- should show a few lines of info
setxkbmap -print
# sets a new layout and model
setxkbmap -layout us -model pc105

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] Things that can be improved

2006-07-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Lord Sauron wrote:
 My personal gripe is how slow emerge is on just plain old emerge-ish
 things.  That we have to use things like eix to search is pathetic.
 This NEVER happened in Debian.

Yeah, emerge should probably start caching this info for faster
searches. emerge overall though got a pretty solid speedup in 2.1.

 I also am considering trying to adapt aptitude to Gentoo.  I think
 aptitude is the best thing since...  anyways, I love aptitude and want
 to make it portage-friendly.  Just having a command-line package
 browser like aptitude in Gentoo would be awesome.
 
 Now is the time to tell me how incredibly stupid I am for imagining
 something like that.  Otherwise I might just fire up KDevelop, grab a
 copy of aptitude, and start working.  I'm known to do things like
 that.

Might wanna take a look through the stuff in app-portage/ before you
start. I'm a fan of porthole.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Molle Bestefich wrote:
 Unfortunately, the spurious xorg-x11-6.9 package just shows at the top
 of the tree:

 Calculating world dependencies... done!
 [blocks B ] =sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r2 (is blocking
 sys-apps/pam-login-4.0.14)
 [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
 x11-drivers/xf86-video-i810-1.6.0)

 Any other suggestions?

There is nothing spurious about it. You aren't reading closely enough to
see the '=' (less than or equal to) in front of it. Maybe you want to
check out the Blocked packages section of the handbook [1]. Basically
it's saying that you need to uninstall your old xorg-x11 before you can
upgrade to the new, modular xorg-x11. Please also glance at the howto
for this upgrade [2].

Thanks,
Donnie

1.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1#doc_chap4
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Re: [gentoo-user] Big thanks to spyderous

2006-07-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 I'm still stucked on Xorg-6.8 and not intending to upgrade anytime soon
 unless there is a lot of good things to expect out of it.
 Right now, as long as there's no exploit/bug for xorg-6.8, I'll keep it
 that way.

Yep, that's your prerogative. But the next exploit may not get updated
in 6.x. There are plenty of improvements to expect, but you'd need to
read the ChangeLogs for details. Addition of the new acceleration
architecture (exa), accelerated indirect GLX, and many fixes to drivers
are just a few.

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server does not build on amd64

2006-07-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Konstantinos Agouros wrote:
 Hi,
 
 compiling xorg-server fails on my amd64 complaining about something
 not defined in a glxXXX header file. VIDEO_CARDS is set to nvidia and
 nv.
 
 Anybody had similar problems?

Try updating your emul-xlibs package to 7.0.

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] Modular xorg mouse problem

2006-07-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Grant wrote:
 I upgraded my laptop to modular xorg but X won't start.  Based on the
 errors I see, it seems to be due to the mouse in some way.  I've tried
 compiling xorg-x11 with only 'synaptics' and both 'synaptics' and
 'mouse' in my INPUT_DEVICES.  I've also commented and uncommented the
 two 'Driver' lines below but I still get mouse errors and X won't
 start.
 
 Section InputDevice
Identifier mymouse
 #   Driver mouse
Driver synaptics
Option Protocol PS/2
Option Device /dev/mouse
Option Emulate3Buttons
Option Emulate3Timeout 150
Option MaxTapTime 0
Option MinSpeed 0.3
Option MaxSpeed 0.75
Option AccelFactor 0.005
 #   Option SHMConfig on
 EndSection
 
 I ran 'revdep-rebuild -p' and it only wants to remerge gcc and some
 gst stuff so I haven't run it for real yet.
 
 Does anyone know how to fix this?

Try changing the device to /dev/input/mice for the mouse driver. I think
the synaptics driver has to use the event interface.

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-xcursors in xfce4

2006-07-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Grant wrote:
 It looks like modular xorg installs gentoo-xcursors by default.  How
 can I give them a try in xfce4?

To do it on the system level, create
/usr/local/share/cursors/xorg-x11/default/ and drop an index.theme file
in there:

$ cat /usr/local/share/cursors/xorg-x11/default/index.theme
[Icon Theme]
Inherits=gentoo-silver

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-6.8 -- xorg-7.0 -- 6.8 -- 7.0 impossible?

2006-07-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Grant wrote:
 I had some trouble upgrading to xorg-x11-7.0 due to a mouse issue so I
 downgraded back to xorg-x11-6.8 via the -K emerge option.  Now I'm
 trying to get back to 7.0 to test the fix and I can't seem to do it.
 After unmerging 6.8, 7.0 emerges just fine without or without the -K
 option.  Trying to startxfce4 after that results in an xinit error and
 there are other missing file X errors before I get to the command
 line (I use gdm).
 
 Something must be out of order, but I don't know enough about xorg to
 determine what.  'emerge -avDuN world' doesn't come up with anything.
 Does this issue make sense to anyone or do I need to come up with some
 specific error messages?

Yeah, the problem is that you never uninstalled the modular packages
when you downgraded. The easiest way to proceed right now is `emerge -e
xorg-x11`.

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Re: [SOLVED - new xorg related?] Re: [gentoo-user] Whoa - .xsession-errors at 340MB in less than 24 hours!

2006-07-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
John J. Foster wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 02:21:26PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 John J. Foster wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 04:43:34PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote:
 Warning: Cannot convert string
 -bh-lucida-medium-r-normal-sans-*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1 to type
 FontStruct

 Try installing the fonts it's complaining about, and add 'em to your
 FontPath list in xorg.conf. This one looks like font-bh-100dpi or -75dpi.

 Thanks alot Donnie, media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi did the trick. Out of
 curiosity, how did you know which font package might be correct?

The font token starts with the foundry it's from -- bh. This translates
to bh in the package name. It's specified using the old core fonts setup
(the foo-blah-*-foo-140-*-etc), so I know it's probably a bitmap font,
meaning 75dpi or 100dpi. It's not lucidatypewriter but just lucida, so
I'm able to eliminate those font-bh-lucidatypewriter-* packages. That
just leaves font-bh-{100,75}dpi.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg meta apps

2006-07-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mick wrote:
 I updated to the new xorg and discovered that a lot of applications
 (e.g. xcalc, xvidtune, etc.) were uninstalled when I unmerged the
 monolithic version, but were not reinstalled with the new meta.  So, I
 thought of trying emerging them individually.  However, they seem to
 be masked.  Is this because they are not compatible with the new meta
 ebuild?  What should I do?

If there are apps you use that you need stabilized, please file a bug
requesting this. We haven't stabilized everything because we're trying
to get an idea of what people actually use.

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg meta apps

2006-07-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mick wrote:
 On 05/07/06, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If there are apps you use that you need stabilized, please file a bug
 requesting this. We haven't stabilized everything because we're trying
 to get an idea of what people actually use.
 
 Thanks.  I will do so.  I was just worried that the new xorg-meta
 ebuild may require different x-apps-meta ebuilds and that's why the
 old ebuilds are now masked.
 
 Is there perhaps a 'bucket' bug report that I should add to for this
 problem, or should I start a new one?

Just go ahead and file a separate bug for each app you want stabilized.
I've already done a few, so make sure you've got a current sync before
you do so.

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] Big thanks to spyderous

2006-07-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Richard Fish wrote:
 Just want to give a big public Thank You to spyderous for hanging
 out in -user and helping out those who had/are having trouble with the
 modular-X upgrade.

I've been trying to do the same on the forums, for those of you around
there. Hope it's made this somewhat difficult transition a bit easier
for you.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg modules problem

2006-07-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I've gone through the big Xorg update, copied back my old
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf, changed the rgb path in line with a previous post
 because it gave me an error and now it fails like so:
 ==
 (EE) Failed to load module bitmap (module does not exist, 0)
 (EE) Failed to load module pcidata (module does not exist, 0)
 Fatal server error:
 Unable to load requried base module, Exiting...

Sounds like you also have a ModulePath line in xorg.conf. Delete it.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [SOLVED - new xorg related?] Re: [gentoo-user] Whoa - .xsession-errors at 340MB in less than 24 hours!

2006-07-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
John J. Foster wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 04:43:34PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote:
 OK, at line 490 (of about 10 million right now) I got this error:

 Warning: Cannot convert string
 -bh-lucida-medium-r-normal-sans-*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1 to type
 FontStruct

 followed by about 10 million of these lines:

 Warning:
 Name: textfield
 Class: XmTextField
 Character '\61' not supported in font.  Discarded.

Try installing the fonts it's complaining about, and add 'em to your
FontPath list in xorg.conf. This one looks like font-bh-100dpi or -75dpi.

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Graham Murray wrote:
 Maybe what is needed is an enhancement to portage to allow the removal
 of a meta-package to (optionally) also remove the 'real' packages
 which it caused to be installed.

Heard of emerge --depclean? Use it with care, though.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xorg-xll fails out at media-libs/mesa-6.5-r3

2006-07-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Richard Broersma Jr wrote:
 glxclient.h:257: error: syntax error before GLXContextTag
 glxclient.h:257: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union
 glxclient.h:401: error: syntax error before '}' token
 clientattrib.c: In function `do_enable_disable':
 Is there something shortly above these like foo.h: No such file or
 directory?
 Yes,  here what it says:
 In file included from clientattrib.c:38:
 glxclient.h:59:25: GL/glxproto.h: No such file or directory

Try switching your opengl to xorg-x11 (eselect opengl set xorg-x11) and
make sure /usr/include/GL/glxproto.h (a symlink) points to a file that
exists.

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] X11 monster rebuild forced? Can I defer it?

2006-07-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Alexander Skwar wrote:
 confcache is gone from portage.

No, it's not. It's in package.mask. I guess you need a new search tool. =)

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenGL problem after xorg upgrade

2006-07-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Dale wrote:
 Richard Fish wrote:
 Did you try eselect opengl nvidia?

 -Richard
 
 Regretfully, yes.  Still no go.  I even made sure it was actually using
 it too.  I selected a NON-OpenGL screen saver and now the CPU doesn't go
 nuts.

Do you have direct rendering working? `glxinfo | grep direct` will tell you.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenGL problem after xorg upgrade

2006-07-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Dale wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # glxinfo | grep direct
 direct rendering: No
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

 Any ideas?  Thanks for the help.

Try this:
LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenGL problem after xorg upgrade

2006-07-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Dale wrote:
 Richard Fish wrote:
 Do you have a dri section in xorg.conf?  Something like:

 Section dri
Group graphics
Mode 0660
 EndSection

 -Richard
 Added that and now I get a error in my screen saver thingy.  It goes
 something like this:
 
 The specified library screensaver could not be found.

 The diagnostics is:
 libGLcore.so.1:  cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Try eselect set opengl nvidia

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenGL problem after xorg upgrade

2006-07-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Dale wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # eselect set opengl nvidia
 !!! Error: Can't load module set
 exiting.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

Bah, I just gave you the command in the wrong order. `eselect opengl set
nvidia` was the right one. Need to tell it which module, before the
action to use from that module. I see you figured that out below.

 I assume this ain't good right.  O_O  OK, I logged out, stopped the GUI,
 rmmoded nvidia and reemerged all the nvidia stuff.  Reloaded nvidia and
 ran the command.  Now this is what I get:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # eselect opengl show
 nvidia
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #  
 So that works and then I get this:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # glxinfo
 name of display: :0.0
 display: :0  screen: 0
 direct rendering: Yes

Sweet!

 That looks good to, still no worky and my screens are really slow. 
 Sometimes even the mouse is slow.  I also noticed that if I go to
 configure desktop and try to play with the screen saver settings, it
 hogs up a LOT of CPU time.  Almost all of it yet it does not work at all.

Odd.

 Are you out of ideas yet?  I'm not sure what to do.  The emerge -e world
 is still going though.  309 of 866 and counting.  kdelibs went by a bit
 ago.  It's on swig right now.  I dunno what it is.

This could be a problem, particularly if you have preemption off or
don't set PORTAGE_NICENESS. If you're running that in a screen session,
try a ^Z (ctrl-z) to suspend it for a bit and see whether that helps,
then `fg` to foreground it again.

 Any clue?  Am I doing something wrong?  Is this new xorg that bad? 
 Should I unmask the newer xorg?  I read the nvidia drivers are not ready
 yet.

At this point it's not real clear what the problem is. You could try
running oprofile to see where all the time is being spent, then rebuild
that package with debugging support (Add -g to CFLAGS, remove
-fomit-frame-pointer) to get info on where in that program the time is
spent.

To get oprofile going, build the kernel module (it's included in the
main kernel, just enable it -- CONFIG_PROFILING in Instrumentation), run
`make vmlinux` in /usr/src/linux, emerge oprofile, then run this little
script like this:
./oprof someapp

It will start profiling, and stop when you quit that app. Make sure you
run it long enough so that the app's startup stuff isn't the primary
thing you profile; you want to profile the runtime slowdowns.

Thanks,
Donnie
#!/bin/sh
echo INIT OPROFILE...
sudo opcontrol --init
sudo opcontrol --start --vmlinux=/usr/src/linux/vmlinux
sudo opcontrol --dump
sudo opcontrol --reset
echo RUN TEST APP...
$@
echo RUN DONE.
sudo opcontrol --stop
echo WRITING PROFILE: oprof.txt
opreport --long-filenames --symbols  oprof.txt
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenGL problem after xorg upgrade

2006-07-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 To get oprofile going, build the kernel module (it's included in the
 main kernel, just enable it -- CONFIG_PROFILING in Instrumentation), run
 `make vmlinux` in /usr/src/linux, emerge oprofile, then run this little
 script like this:
 ./oprof someapp
 
 It will start profiling, and stop when you quit that app. Make sure you
 run it long enough so that the app's startup stuff isn't the primary
 thing you profile; you want to profile the runtime slowdowns.

One more note, oprofile will profile _everything_ your computer is
doing, so make sure you are doing as little as possible that you don't
want to end up in the results.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xorg-xll fails out at media-libs/mesa-6.5-r3

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Richard Broersma Jr wrote:
 makedepend: warning:  glcontextmodes.c (reading 
 /usr/X11R6/include/bits/types.h, line 31): cannot
 find include file stddef.h
 not in ./stddef.h
 not in ../../../include/stddef.h
 not in ../../../include/GL/internal/stddef.h
 not in ../../../src/mesa/main/stddef.h
 not in ../../../src/mesa/glapi/stddef.h
 not in ../../../src/mesa/drivers/dri/common/stddef.h
 not in /usr/include/drm/stddef.h
 not in /usr/X11R6/include/stddef.h
 not in /usr/include/stddef.h

Hi,

Those warnings are irrelevant. You need to find the actual error.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xorg-xll fails out at media-libs/mesa-6.5-r3

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Richard Broersma Jr wrote:
 Oops,  sorry about that. Here are the error messages that follow the warnings:
 
 glxclient.h:257: error: syntax error before GLXContextTag
 glxclient.h:257: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union
 glxclient.h:401: error: syntax error before '}' token
 clientattrib.c: In function `do_enable_disable':

Is there something shortly above these like foo.h: No such file or
directory?

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] X11 monster rebuild forced? Can I defer it?

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 I found the opposite effect with split ebuilds. Even with the
 unpack/configure step, updating 100 splite packages out of 330+ was many
 hours faster than compiling a huge monolithic everything in the past

BTW, if you install confcache and enable FEATURES=confcache, it will
speed things up a lot.

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Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11 screwup

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Matthew R. Lee wrote:
 is done.  I wasn't convinced, however I tried rebooting.  No X, so I logged 
 in and issued 'startx', nothing so I checked '/usr/bin/startx', it's not 
 there, clearly it hadn't installed x  So back to xorg-x11-6.8.2.-r8.  I've 

This is a really weird issue that's been coming up, where the packages
are installed but files are missing. What filesystem(s) are you using?

 tried another emerge --sync to see if that would fix the problem but no joy.  
 So the question is, how do I force portage to down load and recompile the 
 packages from scratch? 

You could try `emerge -ep xorg-x11`.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg worked! Minor issues....Thanks, Gentoo

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
dnlt0hn5ntzhbqkv51 wrote:
 1. The emerge stoped at one point because the uninstall failed to remove
 an obscure library (perhaps /var/lib/xkb ? sorry, I should have noted
 it). But emerge identified the directory and told me to delete it. A
 restart allowed successful completion.

This directory was formerly under configuration protection so we have to
tell the user to delete it manually.

 2. Before starting, I renamed /etc/X11 to /etc/X11old so that any
 accumulated junk would be out of the picture, and so that the new
 xorg.conf.example file would be clean. Heh, it doesn't build a new
 xorg.conf.example file, so I copied over the old file and everything
 worked - except for the rgb file.

Yeah, there's a bug for this -- modular X currently lacks a rule to
create it.

 3. My first xmessage complained of not understanding black. So I
 emerged rgb, edited the xorg.conf file, and repointed it.
 
 RgbPath/usr/share/X11/rgb

You should be able to comment out RgbPath

 4. I routinely use xterm, xmessage, and xkill - all needed to be
 emerged. Problem here was that eix and eix -S didn't find them, but
 emerge did.

Perhaps you haven't regenerated eix's cache lately?

 5. revdep-rebuild found the missing libXaw.so.8, but crashed during
 re-emergence (bad order, and something else that I did not understand).
 So I emerged them one at a time in a different order, and everything
 worked except for the kde office applications.

If you just want the libXaw.so.8 back, emerge libXaw with USE=xprint.

Thanks for your detailed report,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] losting deadkeys layout

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Luigi Pinna wrote:
 Option XkbRules   xorg
 Option XkbModel   pc105
 Option XkbLayout  de

Try this, for the Right Alt key to get you into the level 3 stuff (á, ë,
etc)

Option  XkbOptionslv3:ralt_switch

If you want the various keys that can be put there instead of
ralt_switch, run this:

grep xkb_sym /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/level3

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-user] X11 monster rebuild forced? Can I defer it?

2006-07-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Dale wrote:
 I thought it was ccache?  I did this a while back too.  Is this
 something else we can use in addition to ccache?

Yeah, it caches the results of configure scripts so they don't need to
re-run tests. Although as Bo suggests, there can be some occasional issues.

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Donnie



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