[gentoo-user] Emerge timeout
Is it possible to increase the timeout on the downloads? My proxy server at work scans all incoming files but only does so once emerge things the file is 99% complete it then timesouts after a bit as the scan has (presumably) not finished? If it could only hang on in there for a while longer. -- --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com ---
[gentoo-user] Using lzma for emerge-webrsync
Is this possible to happen automatically? -- --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com ---
[gentoo-user] Thrashing a drive to flush out problems..
Hi guys can anyone recommend a tool for thrashing the b*ll*cks of a drive in way that isn't destructive to the data? I was thinking badblocks with -w but it is destructive and i dont want to do anything that will potentially lower the integrity of my array? (Even tho it is raid6 :) ) There must be some bonnie esk tool that will read/write every combination to every block but keep the data safe after to flush out any sector issues etc. Cheers.
[gentoo-user] Smart Database
Hi guys, I want to update my gentoo install to use the latest trunk version of the smartmontools drive database. Does anyone have any gentoo orientated guidance here? I have spoken to the chaps there and they say to run configure with '--enable-drivedb' and then copy over the the current SVN version of drivedb.h to DATADIR/smartmontools But i wonder where this fits into the wonderful world of gentoo and package management/ Cheers. --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.' *** Please note, I am phasing out jd_hardcastle AT yahoo.com and replacing it with jon AT eHardcastle.com *** ---
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Smart Database
--- On Tue, 19/1/10, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: From: Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Smart Database To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tuesday, 19 January, 2010, 15:10 Jon Hardcastle jd_hardcas...@yahoo.com writes: Hi guys, I want to update my gentoo install to use the latest trunk version of the smartmontools drive database. Does anyone have any gentoo orientated guidance here? I have spoken to the chaps there and they say to run configure with '--enable-drivedb' and then copy over the the current SVN version of drivedb.h to DATADIR/smartmontools But i wonder where this fits into the wonderful world of gentoo and package management/ First... is the svn version really different than the ~ARCHITECTURE version on portage?.. that is version 5.39 You can get that version by putting an tilde followed by your machine architecture (on the cmd line if you don't want to run as development version always) otherwise in /etc/make.conf for x86 it would look like: ~x86 Then you can add you configure argument (--enable-drivedb) using the EXTRA_ECONF flag. Which will tell gentoo to use that flag at `./configure' time. So the emerge command line would be something like this: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS='~x86' EXTRA_ECONF='--enable-drivedb' \ emerge -v smartmontools (all on one line would be best) Now if you really need to introduce drivedb.h from svn repostory then you will need to go the overlay route... I think. Someone more knowledgable will be able to correct me .. I'm sure. That process involves installing your own separate portage in some other directory (/usr/local/portage) and using ebuild commands to build your own version. You would need to install `layman' for starters In that case you could introduce any commands or files you like, and process them with `ebuild'. The process is not all that hard, but I better leave an explanation of how to do it to someone here who is more familiar with it. I've done it but only rarely... and last time was a while ago. Hi, Thanks for your input! Wow that is alot more complicated that I had hoped! I am already using the masked version of Smartmontools but the 5.39 version does not include 1 of the HDD I use and as I have got a whole load more of that exact model of drive on the way I would like it to. I have emailed the smartmontools maintainers and they added the drive 5 days ago, and hence is in the svn version. Hence me wanting to get the latest version of the drive DB.
[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5
Hi I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it gets to the emerge stage and i get this !! All ebuilds that could satisfy kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6 (masked by: package.mask) /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (31 Dec 2009) # Doesn't compile anymore with Autoconf = 2.64, wv2 = 0.4.0, # several open security bugs, ... # # Replaced by app-office/koffice-meta-2.1.0 # # See bugs 274566, 274918, 279027, 279482, 283429, 285018, 294676, # 287276, 292791, ... # # Masked for removal in 30 days # does anyone have any advice? I have tried to force the emerge but i dont really know what i am doing :-/ --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.' *** Please note, I am phasing out jd_hardcastle AT yahoo.com and replacing it with jon AT eHardcastle.com *** ---
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5
--- On Sat, 2/1/10, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild and kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Saturday, 2 January, 2010, 12:05 On Samstag 02 Januar 2010, Jon Hardcastle wrote: Hi I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it gets to the emerge stage and i get this !! All ebuilds that could satisfy kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.10-r6 (masked by: package.mask) /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (31 Dec 2009) # Doesn't compile anymore with Autoconf = 2.64, wv2 = 0.4.0, # several open security bugs, ... # # Replaced by app-office/koffice-meta-2.1.0 # # See bugs 274566, 274918, 279027, 279482, 283429, 285018, 294676, # 287276, 292791, ... # # Masked for removal in 30 days # does anyone have any advice? I have tried to force the emerge but i dont really know what i am doing :-/ --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.' *** Please note, I am phasing out jd_hardcastle AT yahoo.com and replacing it with jon AT eHardcastle.com *** --- yes, get rid of the app that needs kde3 and move on. What is the easiest way to do this? Although i dont agree this would perhaps normally be an option, installing kde was a venture that never really worked and as the machine is primarily a file server i can do without it...
[gentoo-user] All those helpful post emerge messages...
Guys, I have just done an emerge -eva system and it has installed/reinstalled/upgraded ~102 packages. When it finished i noticed some of them had some helpful YOU MUST DO THIS steps and i am wondering do they all have those or does emerge cleverly put all the messages at the end where they can be seen and digested? Cheers. --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.' *** Please note, I am phasing out jd_hardcastle AT yahoo.com and replacing it with jon AT eHardcastle.com *** ---
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade or start over..
--- On Sun, 27/12/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade or start over.. To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sunday, 27 December, 2009, 22:24 On Sunday 27 December 2009 21:46:23 Jon Hardcastle wrote: Hi all, I have a gentoo circa 2008 install that i have pretty much the bare minimal to keep up to date... i now have the problem that i need to upgrade mdadm, lvm and probably a few other bits and pieces. This machine is used almost exclusively as a windows file server. I am getting blocks all over the show and lots of applications needs reinstalling/upgradining on a emerge world. i have also had problems getting the kernel to do what it needs to do a i installed the minimal when i started.. So i am wondering... it is easier to try and upgrade it, or as i have 2 raid 1 drives as the operating system drives and the rest of the drives are pure data, i can disconnect one and wipe the other reinstall from fresh as a degraded raid 1 and when i know we are good to go, wipe the disconnected drive and add to the array to resync and go from there? the mdadm/lvm blocks are easy to fix, just unmerge mdadm and merge lvm. Then upgrade portage to latest *masked* version (it's stable and trouble-free despite the classification), and most of the remaining blockers should be resolved automatically by portage. Depending on what remains, you may or may not decide to proceed with an upgrade as opposed to a reinstall. But it's only one year back, shouldn't give too much trouble on a minimalist system. Off the top of my head, I can only really think of the monolithic to split ebuild samba split -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com I absolutely depend on mdadm/lvm (which i believe require in some way devicemapper and udev) and these are the biggest things i am worried about changing. Does anyone have any experience here? I am assuming that unmerging and remerging should be relatively problem free? If i can get these bad boys upto date that is all i really care about...
[gentoo-user] Upgrade or start over..
Hi all, I have a gentoo circa 2008 install that i have pretty much the bare minimal to keep up to date... i now have the problem that i need to upgrade mdadm, lvm and probably a few other bits and pieces. This machine is used almost exclusively as a windows file server. I am getting blocks all over the show and lots of applications needs reinstalling/upgradining on a emerge world. i have also had problems getting the kernel to do what it needs to do a i installed the minimal when i started.. So i am wondering... it is easier to try and upgrade it, or as i have 2 raid 1 drives as the operating system drives and the rest of the drives are pure data, i can disconnect one and wipe the other reinstall from fresh as a degraded raid 1 and when i know we are good to go, wipe the disconnected drive and add to the array to resync and go from there? --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.' *** Please note, I am phasing out jd_hardcastle AT yahoo.com and replacing it with jon AT eHardcastle.com *** ---
[gentoo-user] Port Multiplier Support
I am looking at ways to increase the drive capacity of my machine. It has 4 in built sata ports, and currently 2 off the PCI port - which is only sata 150 - this has proved a troublesome route. I have the option of a 2 port sata-300 off the 1 pci-express I have but I was looking to increase slightly more than that. to a total of 8. I have come across Sata Port Multiplying before and saw the support was abit weak. I have come back to it again. i am lookin at this bad boy. [Lycom ST-158 SATA II-3Gbps 1-To-5Ports H/W RAID Host Adapter] http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Lycom-ST-158-SATA-II-3Gbps-1-To-5Ports-H-W-RAID-Host-Adapter Can anyone advise if they have any experience in this area? Or indicate some level of success failure? (it is £50 so i dont want to buy it unless there is a reasonable chance of success! thank you in advance! --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.' ---
Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python
--- On Mon, 25/5/09, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: From: Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Monday, 25 May, 2009, 12:34 AM On 24 May 2009, at 21:41, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2009 18:22:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Not exactly, buildsyspkg does the same as it always did, but @system has changed. This cold have happened at any time as there was never a need for python to be in @system,because it's a dependency of portage. That may well be the way it IS, but it certainly is not the way it SHOULD BE. The only sane way to do this is: if (pkgmgr=portage) python in @system else python !in system end That's not particularly sane, because it addresses only one special case, others may arise. IMO the sane approach, as I said some posts ago, is for buildsyspkg to build packages for everything in @system and their dependencies. If you can't do emerge -eK @system, buildsyspkg has failed to do anything useful. +1 You have saved me replying to Alan's post. One could write a package manager in Perl. As it stands Portage would warn you against uninstalling Perltage, but not Perl itself, a hard dependency of that package manager. Clearly this should be fixed. Stroller. + 1 As the guy that started this thread I am testimony to this problem. I now have a tainted (albeit only slightly) system as my main server at home! This whole problem came about because I wanted to install truecrypt (another powder keg!) needed a new version of udev that needed x, y and z. I then decided it had been all together too long since I did an update world - as i was afraid of borking either udev, lvm, md, mdadm which i rely on. NONE OF WHICH CAUSED A SINGLE PROBLEM. python-updater however was causing a blockage so I uninstalled python hoping to reinstall a clean version and BANG. Several emails later and a few days - here we are. I'd hope that if anyone else comes a cropper by this then at least this conv will help them! But I was EXPECTING portage to not let me do something that would stop the 'solution' (and that is what it is whether at the portage or the gentoo level) working. --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.' Please sponsor me for the London to Brighton 2009. Just Giving: http://www.justgiving.com/jonathanhardcastle ---
Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python
--- On Sat, 23/5/09, Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 8:55 AM
Thank you! Thank you! Thank
you!
I followed this
http://blogs.pwmn.net/korkakak/2008/06/04/gentoo-i-unmerged-python-now-what
which worked - in the end. couple of caveats tho for
anyone 'that follows' get python from their site as the ftp
link in this article is out of date.
http://www.python.org/download/releases/
also I initially tried 3.01 and that didn't work so i
installed 2.6.2 which worked 'out of the box' i then tested
with 'emerge' and am now running 'emerge -va python'
Cheers guys!
Thanks to Dale too!
Glad it worked.
But, I don't know what will happen when the properly
emerged python
overwrites the manually installed Python.
Does anybody know if the manual python install is
slotted, in the sense
that it installs files in /usr/lib/python2.6,
/usr/include/python2.6, etc?
If it isn't, and Portage installs a slotted Python, the old
files wouldn't
be overwritten.
And even if it is, the differences between the
differently-configured and
super-patched new python and the vanilla old python could
result in
a different set of file names, so it is possible that the
old python
will not be totally overwritten by the portage-emerged
python.
If I were you, I would at the very least read the log
(specially its tail)
of the python emerge (emerge logs normally go to
/var/log/emerge).
And you did log the files installed by the manual python
install,
didn't you?
And why did you try python 3.01 first? You should try a
similar vesion to
what you were previously running. And specifically python
3.01 is crazy,
as it is widely known that it is *not* compatible with
python 2.x software.
And did you properly uninstall python 3.0.1?
Also, I didn't like the instructions in this blog very
much.
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to configure python like
portage would?
For example, in my system, where the last python install
was
dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2 USE=ncurses readline ssl
threads xml -berkdb -build -doc -examples -gdbm -ipv6
-sqlite -tk -ucs2 -wininst
the configure line was (from the log)
./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu
--mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info
--datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc
--localstatedir=/var/lib --with-fpectl --enable-shared
--disable-ipv6 --infodir=${prefix}/share/info
--mandir=${prefix}/share/man --with-libc=
--enable-unicode=ucs4 --with-threads
--build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
Maybe it would be nice to install python to
/usr/local (I'm not sure),
but if you are going to install it in /usr (like portage),
I think you
might as well use the same configure line portage would.
And if you wanted to be really clean, you could apply the
patches that
portage applies.
And most importantly,
*was this necessary*?
Couldn't he have emerged python by invoking
ebuild
/usr/port/usr/portage/dev-lang/python/python-2.6.2.ebuild
merge
?
This would do everyting correctly.
And wouldn't it work without Python, since it is written in
Bash?
AFAIK, what needs Python is the high level interface to the
portage
system, while the low-level interface only needs Bash (but
I'm
totally not sure).
And finally, couldn't he have gotten a binary package from
http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/x86/dev-lang/
?
As it happens it didn't work after all. The emerge broke it again and i got an
error from python.
All of your advise here is fantastic and i urge anyone that follows to do as
you suggest - but i didn't fully uninstall either python install and i plan to
just leave them minding their own business (hopefully) as i cant be bothered to
track all the files down.
Your final line suggestion to use ebuild worked - although i had to change the
path. I am running emerge -va python a and it had the same effect as install
from wget and then emerging it. I get
File /usr/bin/emerge, line 41
except PermissionDenied, e:
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Any clues here?
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Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python
--- On Sat, 23/5/09, Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 8:55 AM
Thank you! Thank you! Thank
you!
I followed this
http://blogs.pwmn.net/korkakak/2008/06/04/gentoo-i-unmerged-python-now-what
which worked - in the end. couple of caveats tho for
anyone 'that follows' get python from their site as the ftp
link in this article is out of date.
http://www.python.org/download/releases/
also I initially tried 3.01 and that didn't work so i
installed 2.6.2 which worked 'out of the box' i then tested
with 'emerge' and am now running 'emerge -va python'
Cheers guys!
Thanks to Dale too!
Glad it worked.
But, I don't know what will happen when the properly
emerged python
overwrites the manually installed Python.
Does anybody know if the manual python install is
slotted, in the sense
that it installs files in /usr/lib/python2.6,
/usr/include/python2.6, etc?
If it isn't, and Portage installs a slotted Python, the old
files wouldn't
be overwritten.
And even if it is, the differences between the
differently-configured and
super-patched new python and the vanilla old python could
result in
a different set of file names, so it is possible that the
old python
will not be totally overwritten by the portage-emerged
python.
If I were you, I would at the very least read the log
(specially its tail)
of the python emerge (emerge logs normally go to
/var/log/emerge).
And you did log the files installed by the manual python
install,
didn't you?
And why did you try python 3.01 first? You should try a
similar vesion to
what you were previously running. And specifically python
3.01 is crazy,
as it is widely known that it is *not* compatible with
python 2.x software.
And did you properly uninstall python 3.0.1?
Also, I didn't like the instructions in this blog very
much.
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to configure python like
portage would?
For example, in my system, where the last python install
was
dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2 USE=ncurses readline ssl
threads xml -berkdb -build -doc -examples -gdbm -ipv6
-sqlite -tk -ucs2 -wininst
the configure line was (from the log)
./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu
--mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info
--datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc
--localstatedir=/var/lib --with-fpectl --enable-shared
--disable-ipv6 --infodir=${prefix}/share/info
--mandir=${prefix}/share/man --with-libc=
--enable-unicode=ucs4 --with-threads
--build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
Maybe it would be nice to install python to
/usr/local (I'm not sure),
but if you are going to install it in /usr (like portage),
I think you
might as well use the same configure line portage would.
And if you wanted to be really clean, you could apply the
patches that
portage applies.
And most importantly,
*was this necessary*?
Couldn't he have emerged python by invoking
ebuild
/usr/port/usr/portage/dev-lang/python/python-2.6.2.ebuild
merge
?
This would do everyting correctly.
And wouldn't it work without Python, since it is written in
Bash?
AFAIK, what needs Python is the high level interface to the
portage
system, while the low-level interface only needs Bash (but
I'm
totally not sure).
And finally, couldn't he have gotten a binary package from
http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/x86/dev-lang/
?
Also that emerge borked ebuild too.
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E: j...@ehardcastle.com
'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.'
Please sponsor me for the London to Brighton 2009.
Just Giving: http://www.justgiving.com/jonathanhardcastle
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[gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python
I was trying to do a emerge --update ask world and it kept failing on updating python-updater and it was tripping over the python install soo i did the 'sensible' thing and unemerged python. NOW I REALISE THAT PYTHON IS INTEGRAL TO emerge. Can i fix this Also, perhaps some more warnings?!? the warning message was the standard one.. which i ignored thinking i could just reinstall it immediately. No joy! --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.' Please sponsor me for the London to Brighton 2009. Just Giving: http://www.justgiving.com/jonathanhardcastle ---
Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python
--- On Sat, 23/5/09, Michal Sroka michal.sr...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michal Sroka michal.sr...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Saturday, 23 May, 2009, 12:13 AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Download python package from internet and install it manually. Afterwards, when emerge get functional re-emerge python. ... I used this way, when it happened to me ... Michal Jon Hardcastle wrote: I was trying to do a emerge --update ask world and it kept failing on updating python-updater and it was tripping over the python install soo i did the 'sensible' thing and unemerged python. NOW I REALISE THAT PYTHON IS INTEGRAL TO emerge. Can i fix this Also, perhaps some more warnings?!? the warning message was the standard one.. which i ignored thinking i could just reinstall it immediately. No joy! --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.' Please sponsor me for the London to Brighton 2009. Just Giving: http://www.justgiving.com/jonathanhardcastle --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkoXMXwACgkQUwc9usbfIiWDVgCfZHvyfED084UHMLzIZuGWTwHG 3NQAnR4XBO2yhXhpzRC4Qo7ZJdjQfUf0 =Y+KO -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I followed this http://blogs.pwmn.net/korkakak/2008/06/04/gentoo-i-unmerged-python-now-what which worked - in the end. couple of caveats tho for anyone 'that follows' get python from their site as the ftp link in this article is out of date. http://www.python.org/download/releases/ also I initially tried 3.01 and that didn't work so i installed 2.6.2 which worked 'out of the box' i then tested with 'emerge' and am now running 'emerge -va python' Cheers guys! Thanks to Dale too! --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com 'Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own.' Please sponsor me for the London to Brighton 2009. Just Giving: http://www.justgiving.com/jonathanhardcastle ---
[gentoo-user] accessing a bash
Hey guys.. random Linux question. If i have a bash process running on my machine that i am not 'attatched' to is there anyway to access it and see what it is doing short of just killing it? Thanks. --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: j...@ehardcastle.com '..Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.' ---
Re: [gentoo-user] Smartd
--- On Thu, 23/10/08, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Smartd To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Thursday, 23 October, 2008, 6:53 PM On Donnerstag 23 Oktober 2008, Jon Hardcastle wrote: Probably not strictly a Gentoo issue, but as i am running Gentoo I'll see if the collective knowledge here can help me! I have a strange problem with my server. All the hard drives go to sleep after ~3hrs of inactivity. BUT if they happen to still be asleep when the scheduled smart check takes place you can hear it 'spin up' and just before you know the drive is 'up' smartd decides the drive isn't smart capable and gives up. I get log entries in 'messages' and dmesg and also smartd emails me to tell me the drive isn't smart capable. You get the same result if you do -a on a sleeping drive... it says the drive isn't capable.. run it again.. and Bob's your uncle. Any clues? Can you vary the time before it tries after a spin up? --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] '..Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.' --- I am not sure what your problem really is - but why don't you exclude the drivers in /etc/conf.d/smartd? It is a server, but i want the drive to power down if they aren't going to be used for a while.. Also the -n option only works for other kinds of checks.. not for scheduled checks. there appears to be no way to exclude drives that are sleeping from scheduled checks. I want the drives to be checked by smartd also. I just hoped there was a way of getting smartd to wait alittle longer after waking the drive up. --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] '..Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.' ---
Re: [gentoo-user] Smartd
--- On Fri, 24/10/08, Dan Wallis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dan Wallis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Smartd To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 1:15 PM On 24/10/2008, Jon Hardcastle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want the drives to be checked by smartd also. I just hoped there was a way of getting smartd to wait alittle longer after waking the drive up. Could you generate some disk activity on the disk(s) just prior to the scheduled check(s)? I realise this isn't a solution, but more of a work-around. Dan I did look into this actually.. but haven't made any head-way just yet. Cheers for the suggestion though. --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] '..Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.' ---
[gentoo-user] Smartd
Probably not strictly a Gentoo issue, but as i am running Gentoo I'll see if the collective knowledge here can help me! I have a strange problem with my server. All the hard drives go to sleep after ~3hrs of inactivity. BUT if they happen to still be asleep when the scheduled smart check takes place you can hear it 'spin up' and just before you know the drive is 'up' smartd decides the drive isn't smart capable and gives up. I get log entries in 'messages' and dmesg and also smartd emails me to tell me the drive isn't smart capable. You get the same result if you do -a on a sleeping drive... it says the drive isn't capable.. run it again.. and Bob's your uncle. Any clues? Can you vary the time before it tries after a spin up? --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] '..Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.' ---
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-Sources/Vanilla-Sources/Video 4 Linux
Jon Hardcastle wrote: Hi, i have spent the weekend trying to get my new Hauppage USB tv stick to work under linux. I have been constantly perplexed by references to compilable kernel modules I couldn't see! I assumed it was because they referred to old modules or something. But having downloaded and booted into Knoppix and run make menuconfig on that i have confirmed that kernel seems to have 10's of TV card chipset drivers availible to compile whereas gentoo-sources/vanilla-sources emerged on my machine have maybe 2 or 3. Can someone offer me some assistance as to why this might be? Thank you (This is my first mailing list post - please be gentle!) because a large part of the dvb/tv drivers are developed outside of the main kernel tree. Also a large part is hidden under experimental. For my dvb-t stick I need to checkout a mercurial rep and do a make, make install in it do get drivers that work. And with 'work' I mean: no sound on first try, but after disconnecting the stick and reconnecting it, it suddenly works. Hi, I went thru this process but i still dont have the option to add support as a kernel module. Should the mercurial add steps to the menuconfig? no. it just installs all the drivers in the rep as modules. It doesn't touch any configs at all. Hmmm i wonder why i have seen sooo many references to alot more kernel options than i have in either my gentoo-sources or vanilla-sources. because they patch their kernel. Is it possible to 'patch' the kernel source instead of downloading using mercurial. Also how does it 'know' what kernel to make the modules available under? I have 3 sets of kernel code on my machine? a) /usr/src/linux b) uname -r c) just make clean make make install for every kernel. Why patch at all? with the rep and make make install you get all the drivers. It is not that much 'overhead' compared to the work of patching the kernel. And you don't even need to worry about which driver you need - autoloading will do that for you ;) Hi, cheers for all your help so far. If you are sure they were patching the kernel and hence the extra options I am happy to draw a line under that line of investigation.. as i wondered if i was using the wrong kernel or something. Secondly I dont really understand the commands you have given me there. I have my 3 kernels yes at /usr/src with a symlink pointing to my active one which DOESN'T have any DVB stuff compiled in at all. I got the latest gentoo-sources kernel to experiment with and ultimately to switch over to, booted into it.. and downloaded the v4l using mercurial did the make install and it all worked grandly. but how do i know where it has put its modules, if it puts them under /usr/src/linux or gets any kernal info from there then they are in the wrong place. But if it is clever enough to know what kernel i am currently booted into and put them in the correct place accordingly then I am still stumped as i cant get this blasted card to work. Can you also recommend some kernel debug options i can turn on? Can they be done as parameters to the kernel instead of compiled in? i have plug and play debug and some USB debug but i'd like more! Thanks for your help.
[gentoo-user] Gentoo-Sources/Vanilla-Sources/Video 4 Linux
Hi, i have spent the weekend trying to get my new Hauppage USB tv stick to work under linux. I have been constantly perplexed by references to compilable kernel modules I couldn't see! I assumed it was because they referred to old modules or something. But having downloaded and booted into Knoppix and run make menuconfig on that i have confirmed that kernel seems to have 10's of TV card chipset drivers availible to compile whereas gentoo-sources/vanilla-sources emerged on my machine have maybe 2 or 3. Can someone offer me some assistance as to why this might be? Thank you (This is my first mailing list post - please be gentle!) --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'The writing is on the wall...' ---
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-Sources/Vanilla-Sources/Video 4 Linux
--- On Mon, 29/9/08, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-Sources/Vanilla-Sources/Video 4 Linux To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Monday, 29 September, 2008, 10:59 AM On Monday 29 September 2008, Jon Hardcastle wrote: Hi, i have spent the weekend trying to get my new Hauppage USB tv stick to work under linux. I have been constantly perplexed by references to compilable kernel modules I couldn't see! I assumed it was because they referred to old modules or something. But having downloaded and booted into Knoppix and run make menuconfig on that i have confirmed that kernel seems to have 10's of TV card chipset drivers availible to compile whereas gentoo-sources/vanilla-sources emerged on my machine have maybe 2 or 3. Can someone offer me some assistance as to why this might be? Thank you (This is my first mailing list post - please be gentle!) --- N: Jon Hardcastle E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'The writing is on the wall...' --- because a large part of the dvb/tv drivers are developed outside of the main kernel tree. Also a large part is hidden under experimental. For my dvb-t stick I need to checkout a mercurial rep and do a make, make install in it do get drivers that work. And with 'work' I mean: no sound on first try, but after disconnecting the stick and reconnecting it, it suddenly works. Hi, I went thru this process but i still dont have the option to add support as a kernel module. Should the mercurial add steps to the menuconfig?
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-Sources/Vanilla-Sources/Video 4 Linux
On Monday 29 September 2008, Jon Hardcastle wrote: Hi, i have spent the weekend trying to get my new Hauppage USB tv stick to work under linux. I have been constantly perplexed by references to compilable kernel modules I couldn't see! I assumed it was because they referred to old modules or something. But having downloaded and booted into Knoppix and run make menuconfig on that i have confirmed that kernel seems to have 10's of TV card chipset drivers availible to compile whereas gentoo-sources/vanilla-sources emerged on my machine have maybe 2 or 3. Can someone offer me some assistance as to why this might be? Thank you (This is my first mailing list post - please be gentle!) because a large part of the dvb/tv drivers are developed outside of the main kernel tree. Also a large part is hidden under experimental. For my dvb-t stick I need to checkout a mercurial rep and do a make, make install in it do get drivers that work. And with 'work' I mean: no sound on first try, but after disconnecting the stick and reconnecting it, it suddenly works. Hi, I went thru this process but i still dont have the option to add support as a kernel module. Should the mercurial add steps to the menuconfig? no. it just installs all the drivers in the rep as modules. It doesn't touch any configs at all. Hmmm i wonder why i have seen sooo many references to alot more kernel options than i have in either my gentoo-sources or vanilla-sources. Is it possible to 'patch' the kernel source instead of downloading using mercurial. Also how does it 'know' what kernel to make the modules available under? I have 3 sets of kernel code on my machine?
