Re: [gentoo-user] why gentoo doesn't have long description?

2005-08-29 Thread Jonas Geiregat

Fernando Canizo wrote:


El 25/ago/2005 a las 20:57 -0300, Holly me decía:
 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
   


Hi all,
one thing i miss from my previous debian system was the long
description that one can acces with 'apt-cache show package'.

 


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The questions would be:
- why gentoo has decided that one line description is enough?
- it's possible to implement long descriptions? (i mean in the
 political decision to do so, i know is technically viable with some
 LONG_DESCRIPTION item in ebuilds)

 


Just saw this on the Wiki (Portage utilities not in Portage), and
thought it might be something for you:

tsportageview (forums) (sample-html-output) (download)

   * Show descriptions of packages in a given portage category(-ies).
It may use longdescription from metadata.xml files. The output can be
coloured text (requires color package) or html with links towards
package homepages.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-350215-highlight-tsportageview.html
   



This is almost exactly what i'been looking for (well not so much
looking since i don't find it by myself ;)

Thank you for being on_topic.

 


To point is should this be included in emerge or not ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] why gentoo doesn't have long description?

2005-08-24 Thread Jonas Geiregat

Matan Peled wrote:



Well, first of all, top-posting sucks, especially in a thread which has already
begun as bottom-posting.

 


What are you talking about ?


Second, the whole idea is to do this for non-connected systems. Meaning, a
solution not involving the Internet... =)

 

If you're refering to the fact that the person doesn't have an internet 
connection when he wants to view this information throught the emerge 
interface, then you're wrong. When you want to install or you're just 
searching for a package you're using the emerge interface , when you 
need more info you have to 1) open your browser 2) type in the url (if 
you're lucky you know the url or it's in your browsers cache) 3) search 
for the package on the website , while instead you could just do 
something like emerge --desc package. Now what's quicker and makes more 
sence ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] why gentoo doesn't have long description?

2005-08-24 Thread Jonas Geiregat

Fernando Canizo wrote:


El 24/ago/2005 a las 04:01 -0300, Jonas me decía:
 


Second, the whole idea is to do this for non-connected systems. Meaning, a
solution not involving the Internet... =)
 

If you're refering to the fact that the person doesn't have an internet 
connection when he wants to view this information throught the emerge 
interface, then you're wrong. When you want to install or you're just 
searching for a package you're using the emerge interface , when you 
need more info you have to 1) open your browser 2) type in the url (if 
you're lucky you know the url or it's in your browsers cache) 3) search 
for the package on the website , while instead you could just do 
something like emerge --desc package. Now what's quicker and makes more 
sence ?
   



Exactly! That's what i'm refering to. It's not an issues of connection it's an
issue of lazyness! It's like: -- hey what are you doing this weekend? -- don't
know, it's cold and raining, i think i'm gonna sit in my throne and check what's
new on 'app-vim' to improve my vimyness, if find something interesting i'll
check the package webpage.

 


What kind of a computer user are you ?
Really what a stupid remark , kinda foolish to say it's a bad idea to 
implement this feature just because there are other slower less direct 
methods for accomplishing a task !


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Re: [gentoo-user] why gentoo doesn't have long description?

2005-08-24 Thread Jonas Geiregat

Michael Crute wrote:

First of all, sorry about top posting that's the way Gmail does it and 
you cant change the settings.


Also if you are looking for a lazy man's way of getting a package 
description try `emerge -s packagename` and it prints out a lot of 
information as well as a short description of the package. I have 
never seen a long description such as those used to build Debian 
packages anywhere in portage and don't really think it would be useful 
anyhow. So try emerge -s and if you need more info go to the packae's 
website. That would be my advice. Oh, and emerge -s works off the 
metadata so you dint need an Internet connection.



Please stay on topic , that's for all of you !
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[gentoo-user] /dev read,write problem

2005-08-24 Thread Jonas Geiregat
When I startup my system I need to loing as root and run chmod a+rw 
/dev/* else I have problems login in or starting multiple shells I'm 
using udev anyone got any idea what could cause the problem ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] why gentoo doesn't have long description?

2005-08-23 Thread Jonas Geiregat

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The questions would be:
- why gentoo has decided that one line description is enough?
- it's possible to implement long descriptions? (i mean in the
 political decision to do so, i know is technically viable with some
 LONG_DESCRIPTION item in ebuilds)
 


I think it's political correct to add this option to emerge,
technically I would use the package metadata.xml file which contains a 
less brief explenation on what's the package about.


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Re: [gentoo-user] shared memory

2005-08-23 Thread Jonas Geiregat

Martins Steinbergs wrote:


fstab has entry:
none /dev/shm defaults 0 0
 



First and for all change defaults to noexec,rw , why would you want 
anyone to be able to execute anything in a volatile fs ?
Second /dev/shm is `as far as I know` only added to be compatible with 
glibc2.2 and above so the POSIX shm_open and shm_unlink can be used, try 
running

touch /dev/shm/foo
if this works then nothing is wrong with /dev/shm or any related 
settings , I think ..


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Re: [gentoo-user] list of files to be installed by a package

2005-08-23 Thread Jonas Geiregat

de Almeida, Valmor F. wrote:


Hello List,

Is it possible to find out what are the file names (full path) to be
installed by a package without installing it?

Thanks,


 


Unlike a rpm package this is not possible AFIAK.

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