Re: [gentoo-user] 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 05:53:44PM +0800, J?n Zahornadsk? wrote:
 On 04/10/2014 05:03 PM, Adam Carter wrote:
  
  What surprises me here is OpenSSH. It's not supposed to use OpenSSL
  but Debian update process suggests to restart it after updating
  OpenSSL to a fixed version. Is it an overkill on their part? It
  might confuse admins.
  
  
  adam@proxy ~ $ ldd /usr/sbin/sshd
  linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7fffb068e000)
  libwrap.so.0 = /lib64/libwrap.so.0 (0x7f68db1e6000)
  libpam.so.0 = /lib64/libpam.so.0 (0x7f68dafd8000)
  libcrypto.so.1.0.0 = /usr/lib64/libcrypto.so.1.0.0 (0x7f68dabf5000)
  libutil.so.1 = /lib64/libutil.so.1 (0x7f68da9f2000)
  libz.so.1 = /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x7f68da7db000)
  libcrypt.so.1 = /lib64/libcrypt.so.1 (0x7f68da5a4000)
  libpthread.so.0 = /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x7f68da387000)
  libc.so.6 = /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x7f68d9fd7000)
  libgcc_s.so.1 =
  /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.8.2/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x7f68d9dc)
  libdl.so.2 = /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x7f68d9bbc000)
  /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f68db3f1000)
  adam@proxy ~ $ qfile /usr/lib64/libcrypto.so.1.0.0
  dev-libs/openssl (/usr/lib64/libcrypto.so.1.0.0)
  adam@proxy ~ $
  
  So OpenSSH clearly IS using OpenSSL, and you need to restart sshd after
  upgrading OpenSSL.
 
 As far as I know, it doesn't use it for the communication itself, just
 some key generations, so it shouldn't be affected by this bug. But I
 guess better safe than sorry...


Right. heartbleed does not directly affect openssh, but openssh uses
openssl and it's good practice to keep the shared libraries on-disk and
the shared libraries in-memory in sync.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 'Heartbleed' bug

2014-04-10 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 03:55:47PM -0700, walt wrote:
 On 04/09/2014 05:06 PM, Joseph wrote:
  Is gentoo effected by this new 'Heartbleed' bug?
  
  The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in the popular OpenSSL 
  cryptographic software library
  
  http://heartbleed.com/
 
 This topic was discussed in my favorite podcast, http://twit.tv/sn
 
 Steve Gibson explained that the heartbeat feature was introduced in openssl to
 allow *UDP* connections to mimic the 'keepalive' function of the TCP protocol.
 
 IIRC Steve didn't explain how UDP bugs can compromise TCP connections.
 
 Anyone here really understand the underlying principles?  If so, please 
 explain!
 
 Thanks.

Yes, but no, actually. It's main use is in DTLS, over UDP and similar
protocols, however it is also supported in TLS (over TCP). From the RFC
[0]:

   DTLS is designed to secure traffic running on top of unreliable
   transport protocols.  Usually, such protocols have no session
   management.  The only mechanism available at the DTLS layer to figure
   out if a peer is still alive is a costly renegotiation, particularly
   when the application uses unidirectional traffic[...]

   TLS is based on reliable protocols, but there is not necessarily a
   feature available to keep the connection alive without continuous
   data transfer.

   The Heartbeat Extension as described in this document overcomes these
   limitations.

So the heartbeat in [D]TLS, as implemented in OpenSSL, is
standard-compliant. It's more useful in datagram communication (i.e. UDP,
connectionless) but it is available for connection-oriented protocols
(i.e. TCP), as well. It was the TLS heartbeat-implementation that
suffered from this vulnerability. You can see the patch-fix here[1], if
you're interested.

[0] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6520
[1]
https://git.openssl.org/gitweb/?p=openssl.git;a=commit;h=96db9023b881d7cd9f379b0c154650d6c108e9a3



Re: [gentoo-user] Is my system (really) using nptl

2012-10-13 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 10/13/2012 02:40 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:

 
 Now, this does make me curious about some things running on my system.
 Two for instance, Google Chrome and akonadi_agent, have LOTS of pids.
 I was assuming those were different threads and were demonstrating
 what the OP was asking about, but now I'm not so sure. How does a
 single program on an nptl system generate all these different pids?

If I'm not mistaken, Chrome breaks out different tabs into different
processes (which you can see if you open View Background Pages from
the menu). I can't say anything about akonadi_agent, though.

 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Want to start open source development

2012-10-10 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 10/10/2012 12:30 PM, karan garg wrote:
 Thanks a lot for the feedback. But I am a bit scared as this is going to
 be my first such experience. I have a basic knowledge about these
 languages, and definitely even if I fall short of the required
 standards, I shall learn them on the way, but it sort of is making me
 nervous.
 
 Can you plz explain how the procedure works if i try to enhance a
 software or fix a bug?
 Like will i be provided with a particular task?
 Or if i dont know something then i will be guided through that problem
 by your advices?
 Or I'l just be on my own except for where i get stuck and just be
 provided with the resources?
 
 My apologies for trying your patience.
 
 
 -- 
 Regards :)
 Karan
 
Well, I suppose first and foremost, do you have a particular project in
mind to which you would like to contribute?

I understand being worried about potentially not knowing what you're
doing and becoming overwhelmed, but for a situation like this where you
*want* to volunteer to do something, at some point the want will
override the fear. You just need to find the correct project and task
that most appeals to you! :)

As for any guidance you may receive, it really depends on how you go
about getting involved. Many of the larger projects have guidelines that
you can follow to become comfortable with their specific coding style
and the way patches are accepted, etc, etc [1][2] and as long as you
read the pages carefully and try to adhere to their customs the main
devs will probably be more than happy to assist you along the way if you
need some clarification here and there.

If you're more interested in helping a smaller project, then their
process is generally less documented[3][4] and you'll find that you can
form a more close, one-on-one relationship with the devs (as long as
their not too overwhelmed with other things) and they'll also probably
be happy to help you, as needed.

Just be aware, if you want to help with the programming, then that's
awesome! However, just keep in mind that most devs would prefer not to
teach you the language the project is written in, so you most likely
will have a tough time at first while you're trying to understand the
codebase AND learn potentially foreign syntax and such. But if you're
determined to help out and contribute then the community will welcome
you with open arms. :)

And as a side note, some devs can be grumpy and difficult to work with,
but they are few and far between. On the vast majority of projects, the
devs have a TODO that will take them years to get through so any help is
usually appreciated and any additional features that will make their
project more useful/worthwhile are appreciated, too.

Summary/tl;dr Look for a Getting Started or Get Involved page on the
projects website. If you can't find one, see if there's a HACKING doc in
the project repository. If the project looks like something you want to
work on but you need help, contact the dev and let him/her/them know
your interested but need some help.

HTH

[1] http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/
[2] http://www.gnome.org/get-involved/
[3] https://github.com/ioerror/tlsdate/blob/master/HACKING
[4] https://github.com/memcached/memcached/blob/master/HACKING



Re: [gentoo-user] mounting samsung galaxy S III (android ics)

2012-07-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 I just purchased a new smartphone (samsung galaxy S III), which runs
 android ice cream sandwitch 4.0.4).  I would like to copy files
 to and from the phone.  The phone manual describes how to do this for
 windows (nothing needed) and Mac (a program to download), but not for
 gnu-linux.  Apparently the phone supports MTP (media transfer protocol)
 and PTP (picture transfer protocol)

 I did some googling and there are a number of comments but no clear
 recommendations.  Has anyone here performed file transfer
 gentoo -- samsung S3.

 I run amd64, but I don't think that is very relevant.

 Just mounting or ftp would be enough; I really just want to move some
 files.


You should be able to mount it without any problems. I have ICS on my Nexus
S and the only requirement to mounting the phone as a USB device is to
toggle the USB Mass Storage option (it should show up in the notification
bar). On my phone, the usb storage  uses ext4 (IIRC), so drivers for this
aren't an problem. Once the setting is toggled, it's automatically assigned
a device mapping and it's usable as a normal USB drive from there.


[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Oszkár Ocsenás

2012-06-19 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Oszkár Ocsenás ocsen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hy!

 I'm new in this list.
 My name is Oszkár Ocsenás
 I'm from Hungary
 I'm interested in Linux@work, and Linux@daily use

 My most known distributions are: Ubuntu, Fedora, Sabayon and Gentoo


Welcome! I saw you also introduced yourself on the -laptop (and I think one
other) list, as well.
Those are generally very quiet, so don't expect a response from them. -user
is one of the
most interesting and friendly lists to which I subscribe, and it's quite
active, so I hope you're ready. =)

We're all here if you have any questions and hopefully you'll be able to
help us along the way, too!
As friendly advice, make sure you read through any documentation that is
available before asking
and be patient if you don't get an immediate response. (People don't like
to be pestered =D).

Again, welcome and enjoy!

- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-16 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 16/06/12 21:27, walt wrote:

 I guess they figure the desktop will be extinct relatively soon
 and their customer base will vanish unless they capture the
 smartphone market.


 Ah yes, the death of the desktop PC, which is happening for 15 years now.

 Are we dead yet?


I'm not holding my breath. There will always be a divide for the power
users. A single, under-powered interface isn't going to cut it for a lot of
us. X provides us with the flexibility that isn't available with the mobile
interface.


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-16 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Matthew Finkel
 matthew.fin...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On 16/06/12 21:27, walt wrote:
 
  I guess they figure the desktop will be extinct relatively soon
  and their customer base will vanish unless they capture the
  smartphone market.
 
 
  Ah yes, the death of the desktop PC, which is happening for 15 years
 now.
 
  Are we dead yet?
 
 
  I'm not holding my breath. There will always be a divide for the power
  users. A single, under-powered interface isn't going to cut it for a lot
 of
  us. X provides us with the flexibility that isn't available with the
 mobile
  interface.

 Even in the Microsoft world, I can't easily imagine them ditching the
 old UI paradigm for their Windows Server products. They've come a long
 way in making Windows CLI-friendly (see PowerShell), but they haven't
 yet (AFAIK) provided a good mechanism for remote CLI access.


True, and they've been working hard to get it to the state it is in now.
In many cases, sys admins have had to unlearn relying on their mouse
for complete power. The CLI provides options that are, obviously, very
difficult
to express in a simple GUI (I know I'm preaching to the choir). Powershell
has
made huge progress in this respect, but it still has a long way to go in
order to
compete with what we have. And I doubt the server environment would ever
become stripped down to the state we're talking about.


 Not that they won't be able to bolt one in easily enough; CSRSS means
 they should be able to provide, e.g. an SSH daemon, give the
 connecting user a PowerShell login session[1], and give it equal
 privileges and security controls as they have for any other login
 session.


How many years have they had? I'd given up on this years ago.


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Linus ranting about Gnome3

2012-06-16 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Matthew Finkel
 matthew.fin...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Matthew Finkel
  matthew.fin...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   On 16/06/12 21:27, walt wrote:
  
   I guess they figure the desktop will be extinct relatively soon
   and their customer base will vanish unless they capture the
   smartphone market.
  
  
   Ah yes, the death of the desktop PC, which is happening for 15 years
   now.
  
   Are we dead yet?
  
  
   I'm not holding my breath. There will always be a divide for the power
   users. A single, under-powered interface isn't going to cut it for a
 lot
   of
   us. X provides us with the flexibility that isn't available with the
   mobile
   interface.
 
  Even in the Microsoft world, I can't easily imagine them ditching the
  old UI paradigm for their Windows Server products. They've come a long
  way in making Windows CLI-friendly (see PowerShell), but they haven't
  yet (AFAIK) provided a good mechanism for remote CLI access.
 
 
  True, and they've been working hard to get it to the state it is in
 now.
  In many cases, sys admins have had to unlearn relying on their mouse
  for complete power. The CLI provides options that are, obviously, very
  difficult
  to express in a simple GUI (I know I'm preaching to the choir).
 Powershell
  has
  made huge progress in this respect, but it still has a long way to go in
  order to
  compete with what we have. And I doubt the server environment would ever
  become stripped down to the state we're talking about.

 Actually, they're there as of Windows Server 2008. It's called
 Windows Server 2008 Core. According to Windows Server 2008: The
 Definitive Guide, you log into one of these systems and all you get
 (by default) is a terminal window with an instance of cmd.exe. It goes
 on to list seven server roles this configuration supports:

 * Active Directory and Active Directory Lightweight Domain Services (LDS)
 * DHCP Server
 * DNS Server
 * File Services (including DFSR and NFS)
 * Print Services
 * Streaming Media Services
 * Windows Server Virtualization

 (Curiously, one of the things you _can't_ do is run Managed Code.)


Huh, I didn't know about this. It's still too limited, though. At least
they've
duplicated a lot of the core gui elements on cli.



 
 
  Not that they won't be able to bolt one in easily enough; CSRSS means
  they should be able to provide, e.g. an SSH daemon, give the
  connecting user a PowerShell login session[1], and give it equal
  privileges and security controls as they have for any other login
  session.
 
  How many years have they had? I'd given up on this years ago.

 SFU is available in the Server Core configuration. I imagine you
 could run OpenSSH under there. Or some commercial entity could come
 along and provide an SSH+screen(ish) component to snap into the CSRSS
 framework.


I'd actually forgotten about that, I would never trust their implement
though.
Apparently there's a binary available of OpenSSH that runs on SFU (so says
wiki [1]).
I've been out of the Windows Server environment for a few years now, so I
guess
I've missed out on some of the progress MS has made in this area. It's good
they
are pushing the CLI now. Perhaps in a few releases they'll implement their
own
of encrypting telnet sessions with a screen/tmux lookalike. Microsoft never
ceases to amaze me - with the good and the bad.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Services_for_UNIX


Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye to gentoo?

2012-03-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.comwrote:

 
  Hi Maxim, what changed when the modem stopped working?

 Dunno

 
  Also can you supply the output of the route -n and ifconfig commands
  to give us a chance of seeing if anything has gone adrift there.  Also
  if you are using (and have tested that its not the problem) any firewall
  running.

 I don't use the /etc/conf.d/net file. Also all net hotplug services
 are turned of in rc.conf.
 route -n shows nothing except ppp0
 (this is from ubuntu, but it was the same for gentoo when it was working)
 root@gnubu:~# route -n
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
 Iface
 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0  00
 ppp0
 161.184.0.199   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00
 ppp0


I am too young to know the details of dial-up, but going on the assumption
that it uses DHCP or something similar, that last line is definitely a
problem. In order for packets to reach an outside network, they need to
know where to go. This may be your local router or a router from your ISP.
Regardless of the configuration, with a gateway of 0.0.0.0, any packets
with a destination on the internet will never get there. Because you
experience this problem under both Gentoo and Ubuntu, it sounds like an
issue elsewhere. Does the other computer on your LAN have a problem
accessing the internet?

- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] Changing compilers

2012-03-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote:

 Hi all,
Has anyone played around with the various better known compilers on
 Gentoo? By better known, I'm referring to gcc, Intel, llvm, pathscale. My
 situation is that I've just started my PhD which requires me to do Finite
 Element Analysis, FEA, and Computational Fluid Dynamics, CFD, and I want to
 find the best compiler for the job. Before anyone says Why bother, XXX
 compiler is only 1 - 2% faster than gcc, in the context of the work I'm
 doing this 1 - 2% IS important.

 What I'm looking for is any feedback people may have on ability to compile
 the Gentoo environment, the ability to change compilers easily, gcc-config
 or flags in make.conf, as to whether the compiler/linker can use the
 libraries as compiled by gcc on a standard gentoo install and so on.
 Obviously there is much web trawling to be done to find what other people
 are saying as well.

 Any thoughts, greatly appreciated,
   Andrew Lowe


With regard to speed, are you looking for a faster compile time or higher
optimization of the compiled code such that the run time is faster?


-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL MariaDB - is it time?

2012-03-01 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 I just came across this thread today on the MariaDB discuss list about the
 poor stewardship of Oracle with respect to MySQL (and it references
 Oracle's track record of poor handling of the FLOSS projects it inherited
 when it bought Sun):

 https://lists.launchpad.net/**maria-discuss/msg00514.htmlhttps://lists.launchpad.net/maria-discuss/msg00514.html

 In it is discussed - among many other things including lots of good reason
 *why* - the possibility of replacing MySQL with MariaDB in anticipation of
 Oracle's current poor stewardship of MySQL...

 My question is - shouldn't gentoo be considering this move as well?


 I've been seriously considering this for my own servers for some time, and
 after reading this, I think it is time to stop thinking about it and just
 do it, but I'm a bit nervous - ianap, and don't want to shoot myself in the
 foot in the process.

 Anyone here ever done the switch want to share their experience?



It's definitely an interesting dilemma, but one that was expected to happen
eventually. Lucky Gentoo doesn't have to worry about release cycles.
MariaDB is in portage so, in theory, it shouldn't be too difficult for any
of us to make the switch.

- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Chris Walters wrote:
  This is a test.  Enigmail has been trying to use a revoked and expired
 key to
  sign my messages, lately.
 
  Chris
 
 I have a question now.  I got a message from Paul Hartman and replied to
 it, off list, and it was encrypted and I hope my reply was too.  My
 question is this.  How do you make a email that only the sender and
 receiver can read?  As a example.  I'm talking to a Doctor or a lawyer
 and I don't want anyone but that person to see the email.  How do I do
 that?  Can that be done.


Yes, this occurs when the messages are actually encrypted. Both the sender
and receiver must generate a public and private key. The public key
is...public. Anyone and everyone can use it to encipher a message. However,
the private key should be..well, private. It is the key that
can decipher the message. Assuming the receiver keeps this key secret, all
messages that are encrypted with the public key will only be read by
him/her.




The message that I am repying to appears to be something, encypted
 maybe, but I think anyone on this list that uses the tool can read it.
 Am I correct?


I'm using gmail right now, so I can't verify, but the message was most
likely signed but not encrypted. By signing the message, Chris verified
that he actually sent it and it wasn't someone impersonating. (This all
hinges on the fact that you previously received his signature and trust
that it was authentic then)



 I'm trying to get a full understanding of this thing.  Ya'll know how I
 am.  lol

 Dale

 :-)  :-)


Matt
-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Mud is clearing up a bit.


Excellent! Lookin good!



 Dale

 :-)  :-)

 - --
 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood
 or how you interpreted my words!

 Miss the compile output?  Hint:
 EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux)
 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

 iEYEARECAAYFAk8YpUwACgkQiBoxVpK2GMCz4QCeNBRDf8wmErruB5SVREcra4uu
 6dQAnRnR8OuS0Mo5jcBnLNRGug0hkhK/
 =XWWa
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-


- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Matthew Finkel wrote:
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
  mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Mud is clearing up a bit.
 
 
  Excellent! Lookin good!
 
 

 Well, I get this on top of your message:

 Error - No valid armored OpenPGP data block found

 What's wrong with that?  Yours or mine?

 Dale

 :-)  :-)


I'm using gmail right now, so my messages aren't signed. As such, I would
have to say neither. =)

I may be wrong and there actually is something amiss, anything is possible.


Re: [gentoo-user] OT: GPG Signatures

2012-01-19 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Chris Walters cjw20...@comcast.net wrote:

 On 1/19/2012 06:55 PM, Dale wrote:
  Matthew Finkel wrote:
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
  mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Mud is clearing up a bit.
 
 
  Excellent! Lookin good!

 When he quoted your message, he included part of your PGP signature in the
 quoted part.  That's what caused that error.


Ah, that makes perfect sense! Thanks



 Chris



-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] Error with sunrise overlay during eix-sync...

2011-12-15 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.orgwrote:

 Anyone else getting this error?

 It started this morning...


Same here. I would say it is due to a bad push, but the changelog doesn't
show any changes for months. I don't know ebuild syntax well enough to
figure out the problem at first glace, though.

-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] Error with sunrise overlay during eix-sync...

2011-12-15 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Matthew Finkel
matthew.fin...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.orgwrote:

 Anyone else getting this error?

 It started this morning...


 Same here. I would say it is due to a bad push, but the changelog doesn't
 show any changes for months. I don't know ebuild syntax well enough to
 figure out the problem at first glace, though.


Actually, I take back half of what I said. I know the error is being caused
by the last line of the ebuild, need_php_by_category, I just don't know
why it gives an error or how that line is supposed to work. Perhaps it's
the dev-php5 category that's confusing portage, but I really don't know.

- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + HP + Quickmedia

2011-12-15 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Well, Thank you for your answer Mick, but after numerous test also many
 times I've tried, could't make this happen, because quick media is without
 the HD (or at least I think) because I don't need to get to windows, is a
 OS very light to use, email, navigation, skype and some others things.


Correct, so it should be completely independent of Windows or Gentoo or
whichever OS you have installed on your hard drive.



 Also, I have to delete RECOVERY partition, because it did not work (I
 tried with extended partition, same results)


Those partitions are pretty useless anyway :)



 Now, I'm running Gentoo +  Windows 7 (Dual Boot) a little problems, but
 for now, I can work in both systems very well.


Awesome! Glad to hear you have Gentoo working! Just out of curiosity, what
types of problems are you still having?


 Regards
 --
 Carlos Sura.-
 www.carlossura.com


- Matt

-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + HP + Quickmedia

2011-12-15 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Carlos Sura carlos.su...@googlemail.comwrote:


 Well,

 My laptop has 2 video cards INTEL (integrated video card) That's the only
 one that works.

 And Ati Mobility Radeon Premium Graphics:

 lspci:
 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a5)
 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan
 [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]

 I tried with switchero but it just only work with INTEL not for ATI, also
 I've tried to use just ATI (ati-drivers) package, but when I try to:
 X -configure

 it says something like:
 Screen found, but driver:
 fxglrs (not found)


If the Intel video card is working correctly, then you should only need to
adjust which driver X uses when it starts. This can be changed within
/etc/X11/xorg.conf. The ATI driver should be called fglrx which is
installed when you emerge ati-drivers. It's strange that it can not find
the driver, though. If it's possible, can you attach the error message? The
ati-drivers package also comes with a tool, aticonfig, which may help
auto-configure xorg.conf, as well.


 I tried following all gentoo wiki about ATI, but it just simply don't
 work. I don't care to use both video cards, but I would like to use ATI
 insted INTEL.

 If there any way or someone who knows how to solve this, it would be great
 for me!

 Regards
 --
 Carlos Sura.-
 www.carlossura.com



- Matt


-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] apache - virtual host not working

2011-12-11 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:


 In /etc/hosts I have:
 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost mydomain.ca syscon5
 10.0.0.100 www.mydomain.ca

 If I comment out: #10.0.0.100 www.mydomain.ca
 I can access this domain.


By access, do you mean the website loads without the access restriction?




in: modules.d/00_default_settings.**conf
 # We configure the default to be a very restrictive set of features.
 Directory /
   Options FollowSymLinks
   AllowOverride None
   Order deny,allow
   Deny from all
 /Directory


Is there a reason you're giving access to / ?



 # added below
 Directory /var/www/localhost/htdocs
AllowOverride All
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
 /Directory

 FilesMatch ^\.ht
   Order allow,deny
   Deny from all
 /FilesMatch


Do you set the DocumentRoot within the file to a location to which the
apache user has read access?


 I don't know where else to look. I can not access virtual domain on port
 80 nor on 443
 The server is working perfectly on my other computer running the same
 version of apache. As stated earlier I've compare configuration file with
 meld so I'm sure there are no mistakes.

 --
 Joseph


Hope we can get this resolved.
- Matt

-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] apache - virtual host not working

2011-12-11 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:26 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:

 On Mon, December 12, 2011 8:21 am, Joseph wrote:
  On 12/12/11 02:03, Matthew Finkel wrote:
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote
 
  in: modules.d/00_default_settings.conf
  # We configure the default to be a very restrictive set of
  features.
  Directory /
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
Order deny,allow
Deny from all
  /Directory
 
 
Is there a reason you're giving access to / ?
 
  No the above statement actually prevent access, am I correct?

 Yes, you are correct. It prevents access.
 Configuration in the vhosts-config will add access to the required
 directories.


I'm sorry, I skimmed over it and misread it. It's much better the way you
have it! :)



  Thanks folks, SOLVED!

 That's good to hear.

  Another lesson learned!


 Awesome! Live and learn

- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] New Server, considering hardened, need pointers to tfm...

2011-12-10 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.orgwrote:

 Hello all,

 I'm considering rolling out a new server with gentoo, but wanted to base
 it on the hardened profile, but the docs I've read so far all seem to be a
 bit vague about all the details.

 I've been using gentoo for a while on my hobby server, but I installed it
 about 8 years ago, and chose the 'server' profile, and I must say it has
 been a real pleasure to maintain, and the only real hiccup I ever
 experienced was the mailman update that moved the directories for the lists
 without telling me what to do about it (the fix was simple, and the devs
 swiftly fixed the lack of post-install docs).

 Does anyone know of a good How-To that covers *all* of the bases? Ie,
 which model is best - grsecurity, PAX, SeLinux - and how best to implement
 it?

 Thanks...


You may be able to get a better response from the -hardened list, but I
built a hardened server a few months ago without much difficulty. As far as
I know, the correct model to use depends on what you want to do with the
server/what security you are looking to implement. When I went hardened, I
used PaX and grsec [1] because it offered the security I was looking for
but didn't restrict userland usability on a server on which I was the only
user. My understanding is that this restriction would be a consequence of
using SeLinux.

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/grsecurity.xml

As for a solid comparison of the different models and tutorials for them, I
don't know of any. I just used [1] as well as the PaX page to install and
configure them and I didn't run into any problems.

hope that helps a bit (and I hopefully didn't describe anything
incorrectly).

- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] Another Install Issue

2011-10-16 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:05 AM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote:

  Also: Are the modules actually loaded before you unload them? Use
  `modprobe -vr broadcom tg3`. If there is no output, the module was not
  loaded.
 Prior to unloading the modules, output from 'modprobe -vr broadcom tg3' is

 rmmod /lib/modules/2.6.39-gentoo-r3/kernel/drivers/net/tg3.ko


Hi Colleen,

Looks like broadcom isn't loading at boot. Also, I'm not too familiar with
broadcom, but why must you load two modules? I found [1] which sound like
your problem (possibly the site you mentioned earlier) which references a
similar problem when tg3 is loaded before broadcom. You may have already
tried this, but have you tested changing the order in /etc/conf.d/modules?


[1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=110026

- Matt

-- 
Matthew Finkel


[gentoo-user] Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-11 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.netwrote:

 Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:54:06 +0100
 schrieb Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com:

  On Tuesday 11 Oct 2011 12:51:12 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
   Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:03:27 +0200
  
   schrieb Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net:
it's nice how much many people on this this list are willing to
help in spite of all this. but am i really the only one who finds
the behavior described above at least confusing?
anyway, i'm quite convinced it is fake.
  
   no, apparently i am not the only one thinking that:
   http://www.stopforumspam.com/ipcheck/58.243.95.123
 
 
  Interesting!
 
  Well, the broken English is not an insurmountable problem as long as
  we understand the question asked.  Not everyone is blessed with good
  knowledge of the English language.

 i totally agree to that given any effort on the other end i would do my
 best to help as well.

  The questions seem genuine, so it may help the OP or others that have
  similar problems.

 right, the replies probably gave the thread some value ;)
 but there was *no* reaction at all to the proposed solutions, hints and
 info requests. why ask for help if you don't even try the suggestions?
 it takes you about ten minutes of reading this list to realize that the
 usual way of solving problems is a cycle of i am trying to do X
 and receive error Y-hey, try Z-oh, now A happens-try B too
 etc.

  Now, if as you say it is indeed spam, what escapes me is why would
  someone spam the list in this manner?  It doesn't make sense.

 my point exactly! i don't get it - this intially led me to post
 this comment in the first place.
 what really points into the direction of spam in my opinion is using
 the different names mentioned of stopforumspam. and that others went as
 far as reporting it.

  So I
  am led to believe that the peculiarities you mention are probably a
  cultural (or personal) issue.

 possible. but what makes it even more confusing is that this doesn't
 go well with my experience of chinese people having a hard time with
 english (i can't really put my finger on it, but it doesn't feel right)
 and how they react to hey, you're doing X wrong, thats rude.
 not meaning to stereotype, it just made it more suspicious.



I understand why you would think the OP is a spammer, but the topic just
seems too genuine (to me at least) for this to actually be spam. It
definitely would have been more polite if Lavender had replied to the other
suggestions, but (assuming the thread is not spam) you don't know what is
going on in their life and it may take a few days to respond. Just because
the person is from China, doesn't mean we should assume they're a spammer
(following Alan's last reply).

-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is Qemu dead?

2011-09-29 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.comwrote:

 On 09/28/2011 10:42 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
 
  Doh!
 
  I had forgotten there was a seperate kvm-enabled build of Qemu.  I'll
  have to give that a try.
 

 You can use qemu-kvm whether or not you have a kernel/CPU with KVM support:

  $ cat /usr/bin/kvm
  #!/bin/sh
  exec /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 --enable-kvm $@


But I was under the impression you can only use -enable-kvm if you have KVM
built into the kernel/load the module.


Re: [gentoo-user] Is Qemu dead?

2011-09-28 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Grant Edwards
grant.b.edwa...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've been trying to use Qemu to do some test installs of Ubuntu
 server.  I've used Qemu successfully in the past, but it seems to have
 hit a dead end.  The stable version (0.11) of Qemu just plain
 doesn't work. There are constant segfaults and kernel panics in the
 guest environment.

 I updated to the ~x86 version (0.14) -- while the guest OS installs
 and runs OK, kernel acceleration (kqemu module) is no longer
 supported, and without it Qemu is really slow.

 For now I've switched to VirtualBox, but the console implementation in
 VirtualBox is nightmarishly slow. When I do -l looks like it's
 scrolling by at about 9600 baud.

 Is Qemu dead?  Or just dying?

 --
 Grant Edwards   grant.b.edwardsYow! What UNIVERSE is
 this,
  at   please??
  gmail.com



I've been using QEMU on, nearly, a daily basis for the last few months. Last
I checked, I believe they're on track for a v1.0 release in November or
December. I, honestly, haven't had many problems with unexpected segfaults
on either Gentoo or Ubuntu, so I can't give any advice for that. As for the
speed issue, have you tried building KVM into the kernel or at least as a
mod?

- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium and Google Chrome

2011-09-02 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:31 AM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2 September 2011 10:17, JD Horelick jdho...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Also, one is a binary, one is source that you need to compile. And
  Chromium is an EXTREMELY long compile

 I agree it takes long time (1-2 hours on my machine) but the compile
 time doesn't matter for me. I upgrade my machine from my workplace.

 --
 - -
 --  Csanyi Andras (Sayusi Ando)  -- http://sayusi.hu --
 http://facebook.com/andras.csanyi
 --  Trust in God and keep your gunpowder dry! - Cromwell


This was brought up on gentoo-dev ML last week by Mike Gilbert (aka floppym)
.

---Snip
I have been maintaining an ebuild for Google Chrome in an overlay. It
basically extracts a deb file to /opt. This serves as an easy
alternative for people who do not have the patience to compile
Chromium.

Now that I have developer access, I would like to move this to the
tree. Before doing so, I need some advice on how to deal with the
EULA[1].

--Snip--

hth,
Matt


-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] Cheapest dedicated gentoo servers?

2011-09-02 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I'm looking for dedicated server providers whose rates are low, support
 Gentoo and most importantly are reliable. Service should be stable.
 Location is not important, but preferable in EU.

 --
 Nilesh Govindarajan
 http://nileshgr.com


I don't know of any dedicated services that meet your requirements, but is
it a hard requirement that the server be dedicated? VPSs can be just as
stable as a dedicated and are usually much cheaper. KVM and Xen environments
are becoming much more prevalent. What type of storage/memory requirements
do you have, if you don't mind me asking?

- Matt

-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] Mercurial Server

2011-08-20 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan
cont...@nileshgr.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I managed to configure mercurial-server on my gentoo vps, and add my
 public key for the root user to it.

 I can ssh to hg@myvps.

 But this is what I get when I run hg clone ssh://hg@myvps/hgadmin:

 running ssh hg@myvps hg -R hgadmin serve --stdio
 remote: Traceback (most recent call last):
 remote:   File /usr/share/mercurial-server/hg-ssh, line 76, in module
 remote: dispatch.dispatch(['-R', repo, 'serve', '--stdio'])
 remote:   File
 /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/mercurial/dispatch.py, line 31, in
 dispatch
 remote: if req.ferr:
 remote: AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'ferr'
 abort: no suitable response from remote hg!

 Any clues?

 --
 Nilesh Govindarajan
 http://nileshgr.com


I started to write some questions for you to answer, but then I decided I'd
see if anyone else was having this issue [0]. Maybe that'll help. It looks
like a bug that should be filed.

[0]
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6730735/troubles-with-mercurial-1-9-and-ssh


Re: [gentoo-user] Hoping someone can help explain distcc to me

2011-08-20 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Peter Humphrey wrote:

 On Sunday 21 August 2011 02:08:51 Paul Hartman wrote:



 Could I just export the entire laptop - everything from the root
 directory and below - and chroot into that over the network? Then I
 wouldn't even need to emerge -k...


 No, I tried that and got myself tied in knots - well, actually it was the
 whole portage tree that I exported, not the entire system. I forget what
 went wrong now, but it's definitely cleaner to tell the server to build
 the
 packages and the client to install from them. The emerge -k step is quick
 too, and you have the advantage that you can see whether the packages are
 actually there, unless you've switched colours off or not specified -v. (I
 once found that they weren't there, which prompted me to go looking for
 the
 config problem. Like Dale, I'm quite a good tester!)

 You just have to make sure that the chroot is identical to the client.




 Since you mentioned me.  I wish I could set up a quicky from my 4 core 64
 bit machine to compile 32 bit packages for a older 2GHz machine that belongs
 to a friend.  I was going to put Mandriva on it but the CD won;t boot up
 properly.  It stops at starting udev.  Gr.

 How hard is it to set up a 64 bit machine to compile programs for a 32 bit
 system?

 Dale

 :-)  :-)


It's actually quite easy. IIRC, when I did it last, the only difference is
that when you chroot into the subsystem you need prefix the command with
linux32, e.g. linux32 chroot /path/to/chroot /bin/bash


Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote:

 Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld:
  On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote:
  How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use?
  For
  server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup
  or use case?
 
  Since you ask: my workstation runs Gentoo. My old workstation sometimes
  does; at other times it's experimenting with other distributions.
 
  I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo, but
 it's
  too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it NFS-exports its
  packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit chroot set
 up as
  an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making the packages
 available
  for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome operation though.
 
  The Atom serves web, time, squid proxy, dns, cups and mysql to the LAN.
 It
  runs http-replicator and rsyncd to keep a local portage tree for the
 other
  boxes. I'd like it to serve mail too, but I've never managed to set that
 up.
 
  Putting email on the Atom using IMAP might not be the best option. IMAP
 can be
  quite heavy on resources on the server-side.
 
  I use a quad-core AMD for my server.
 
  --
  Joost
 

 Depends on how you use it. I have an IMAP-Server running on Atom which
 holds my email archive. Also depends on the Software you use for the
 IMAP-Server.
 I can not see why a N270 could not serve a moderate amount of users on
 IMAP.

 Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled,
 run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less
 powerfull and it works just fine.

 Norman


Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc?

- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Can I retrieve my SSL key?

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
 klond...@gentoo.org wrote:

 El 18/08/11 03:37, Grant escribió:
  I just accidentally overwrote my SSL certificate key.  Is there any
  way to retrieve it?  Possibly some sort of export since I haven't
  restarted apache2 yet?
  What, exactly, did you do that caused the overwrite?
  I generated a new key but used the wrong filename so it overwrote a
  key that has an associated certificate.
 Hopefully you can still ext3undelete it Worst case you have to parse the
 whole disk looking for a pattern with a custom C program (AHH the pain!)

 There are file carver tools I've not had any luck with them, though.


 --
 :wq



As Francisco mentioned, depending on the filesystem you're using, there may
exist an 'undelete' tool which came with the util package. If not, then
assuming you have at least a few gigs of free space on your drive/partition
the chances that the file was /actually/ overwritten are quite slim, so the
cert is most likely still there. Any decent data recovery program should
be able to find it (and just about every single other file you've ever
deleted). I wish I could recommend one, but I thankfully have not needed one
recently (hopefully this won't jinx it :) ).

Good Luck!

- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] What's the status of ht://Dig?

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Peter Humphrey
pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.orgwrote:

 Hello list,

 I'd like to add a search facility to my choir's website, and a likely-
 looking candidate is ht://Dig, but its News dates from seven years ago.
 Does
 this mean it's dead or absolutely stable?

 If this isn't a runner, does the team wish to offer an alternative? I have
 over 100 pages in this site, and I'm sure a visitor would like to be able
 to
 search for a particular member, song, venue etc.

 --
 Rgds
 Peter   Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23


Browsing through the page, the project looks pretty dead which seems strange
considering how many contributors it had.

As such, I've never used it but Hyper Estraier[0] may do what you want, as
well. There are probably others out there. There's also always the Google
option.

[0] http://fallabs.com/hyperestraier/

- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote:

 Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel:
  On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org
  mailto:nor...@smash-net.org wrote:
 
  Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld:
   On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote:
   On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote:
   How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production
  use?
   For
   server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting
  setup
   or use case?
  
   Since you ask: my workstation runs Gentoo. My old workstation
  sometimes
   does; at other times it's experimenting with other distributions.
  
   I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo,
  but it's
   too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it
  NFS-exports its
   packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit
  chroot set up as
   an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making the packages
  available
   for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome operation
 though.
  
   The Atom serves web, time, squid proxy, dns, cups and mysql to
  the LAN. It
   runs http-replicator and rsyncd to keep a local portage tree for
  the other
   boxes. I'd like it to serve mail too, but I've never managed to
  set that up.
  
   Putting email on the Atom using IMAP might not be the best option.
  IMAP can be
   quite heavy on resources on the server-side.
  
   I use a quad-core AMD for my server.
  
   --
   Joost
  
 
  Depends on how you use it. I have an IMAP-Server running on Atom
 which
  holds my email archive. Also depends on the Software you use for the
  IMAP-Server.
  I can not see why a N270 could not serve a moderate amount of users
  on IMAP.
 
  Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I
 compiled,
  run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less
  powerfull and it works just fine.
 
  Norman
 
 
  Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc?
 
  - Matt

 Atom:

 genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
  * sys-devel/gcc

 Sat Feb 26 13:06:08 2011  sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
   merge time: 1 hour, 12 minutes and 27 seconds.

 Wed Mar 23 23:01:12 2011  sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
   merge time: 1 hour, 10 minutes and 22 seconds.


 Geode:

  genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
  * sys-devel/gcc

 Sat Feb 26 19:11:36 2011  sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
   merge time: 7 hours, 17 minutes and 41 seconds.

 Fri Mar 25 05:51:21 2011  sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
   merge time: 7 hours, 17 minutes and 2 seconds.


 Norman


Interesting, thanks! I was interested in a comparison of compile times. I
was originally going to ask how long it takes to compile OO/LibreOffice but
then figured your system most likely didn't have it. haha

And as you said in your other reply, if you rarely have to interact with
this system, and compiling doesn't result in significant lag, why not
compile it? It'd take a century to emerge an entire feature-full
desktop/server build, but as a small embedded system it actually sounds
reasonable.


Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Matthew Finkel wrote:

 Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc?

 - Matt


 This may help.  I saw one Atom CPU in the list.

 http://gentoo.linuxhowtos.org/**compiletimeestimator/http://gentoo.linuxhowtos.org/compiletimeestimator/

 It must be pretty slow since it is at about the bottom of the list.  The
 list goes from fastest to slowest.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)


huh, that's a pretty neat site, thanks. A funny thing about this site is
that the 'slowest' core listed is a P2 which has an estimated compile time
that's twice as fast for gcc as Norman's Geo. His atom is quite snappy
though. :)


Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:59 PM, fra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, guys

 It is a shame, I know, but after several years using Gentoo, it is the
 first time I try to build a kernel without genkernel.

 And now I can't boot to that new kernel, it does not find (and really do
 not have a) /dev/sda* root partition (real-root); during the boot it
 stops, complaining about that, gives me the option to get a shell, from
 which I am able to see that there is no /dev/sda* .

 I have included everything SATA, so it looks like that is not a kernel
 problem, but a initramfs issue, I guess.

 What am I missing?

 Thanks a lot
 Francisco

 P.S.: my boot partition is sda2, sda3 is a swap partition, and everything
 else is in sda4. sda1 is not used (up to now) and this is my grub.conf :

 title Gentoo Linux 2.6.39-gentoo-r3
 root (hd0,1)
 kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.39-gentoo-r3 ro root=/dev/ram0
 init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/sda4 vga=0x318 video=uvesafb:1024x768-32
 nodevfs udev devfs=nomount quiet CONSOLE=/dev/tty1
 initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.39-gentoo-r3



Do you have a block device driver built into the kernel? And what type of
shell are you dropped into when then happens? Is it a single-user mode shell
or grub (or something else entirely)? Also, while you're booted into the
livecd/dvd/usb and you chroot, try lspci -k and check to see what
modules/drivers that lists as installed and see if you have them enabled in
your config.

- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-15 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street

 This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does
 everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For
 server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup
 or use case?

 I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the
 HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box.

 --
 :wq


Here I have it on my laptop, desktop, build server, build binary packages
server, web server, backup servers, file servers and (hopefully) a media
server/htpc soon.

And Adam, nice find.



-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] www-client/chromium

2011-08-05 Thread Matthew Finkel
2011/8/5 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella jesus.guerrero.bote...@gmail.com

 2011/8/5 Matthew Finkel matthew.fin...@gmail.com:
  On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org
 wrote:
 
  I noticed that chromium's code has a lot of vulnerabilities.
  https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=www-client%2Fchromium
  I suppose this is why we see so often version upgrades of it (and it's
  not a small app to build).
  Why is its code so, should I say prone to bugs, compared to
  other browsers?
 
 
  Firefox isn't perfect
  either
 https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=www-client%2Ffirefoxlist_id=337885
  I think you hit the nail on the head by saying that it's not a small app
 to
  build. The more code that's written increases the the chances a security
  holes will be introduced into the application.

 I don't think so. It's not the raw number of source code lines which
 makes it more prone to bugs. I think that a closer and more realistic
 number would be the number of lines divided by the number of full-time
 developers, and don't forget to put in the middle of that formula how
 skilled they are. Having that into account, chromium has a good base
 since few teams in the planet will have the quantity and quality of
 man power that Google has to devote to this project.

  And as an internet browser, they're also susceptible to many more vectors
 of
  attack than most other packages. For chromium specifically, I haven't
 looked
  at the CVEs but I suspect many are for webkit and not just Chromium.
  Just my 2c.

 The webkit branch into chromium is not the same that you can find in
 any other webkit-based project. They just have a common origin, but
 they are maintained separately and it is my understanding that they
 have diverged enough to be considered as separate things.

 --
 Jesús Guerrero Botella


Your points on code quality and developer quality/experience are well taken,
and I completely agree; the number of lines of source code is never really a
good criterion for comparison. I also wasn't aware the chromium-base and
webkit-base had diverged so much. On second look of the bug reports, all of
them are linked to the Google Chrome Release blog, where the vast majority
of the vulnerabilities/bugs are attributed to bounty hunters. So I believe
this also heavily contributes to the quick release cycle. To Thanasis'
point, I think the quick release cycle is two-fold. The first being that
Google has a policy of release early-release often, so I would guess that
once the new feature set is stable they push it out. Second is the fact that
most people like using stable and secure software as well as making money.
Also, quite a few of the bugs, in the Google Chrome Team's words, were
clever, so I would assume they weren't easy to find. I didn't go digging
around to see how old these bugs were, to see when they were introduced, but
it did appear that a large portion were due to common coding error, i.e.
use-after-free, memory corruption, etc.

As an aside, a similar (condensed) list of vulnerabilities in all Mozilla
projects can be found here [0]. I think, overall, compared to
Chrome/Chromium, there are significantly less vulnerabilities reported for
Firefox. But there is also far less money going towards the discoveries, as
well.

0. http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/

- Matt


Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-08-04 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:00 AM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:

 On Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:10:25 AM Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Wed 03 August 2011 17:44:08 Willie Wong did opine thusly:
   On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 01:38:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
It's sensible really - portage is not the only package manager
out there and therefore should not be in @system. The user did
not put portage in world, and did not use -D, so portage is not
updating the package.
   
The solution is simple - all users should put their preferred
package manager into world and what Stroller is seeing will
stop happening.
   
Zac can't force portage into system like he could with less and
nano and have few or non side-effects. A virtual package
manager only says that you *have* one, not *which* one. So as
usual for Gentoo, the user gets to tell the software which one
it is.
   
I don't see a problem.
  
   Though it is silly IMHO that portage would want to remove itself
   with depclean. Could it not be hardcoded into portage that it
   should try to keep itself updated and not commit suicide?
   (Independently of the @system sets.)
 
  What about replacing portage with paludis? In your scenario, portage
  could not do that.

 It would be possible by:
 1) emerge paludiis
 2) paludis - delete portage (I don't know Paludis, so not sure of the exact
 syntax)

 This would then be a safer way of doing things as you'd always have at
 least 1
 package manager installed.

 --
 Joost


Having something delete/remove itself is always a tricky situation. But in
this context it should be possible. Though package managers are extremely
useful, they are not mandatory and in some (rare) cases one may not be
wanted and there must be a way to appease these environments in such a
situation.  We're talking about GNU/Linux here, the possible uses are
enormous, so the user just needs to understand what they're doing and know
which packages are vital in their system to make sure it continues to
operate as expected.


Re: [gentoo-user] www-client/chromium

2011-08-04 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote:

 I noticed that chromium's code has a lot of vulnerabilities.
 https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=www-client%2Fchromium
 I suppose this is why we see so often version upgrades of it (and it's
 not a small app to build).
 Why is its code so, should I say prone to bugs, compared to
 other browsers?


Firefox isn't perfect either
https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=www-client%2Ffirefoxlist_id=337885

I think you hit the nail on the head by saying that it's not a small app to
build. The more code that's written increases the the chances a security
holes will be introduced into the application.
And as an internet browser, they're also susceptible to many more vectors of
attack than most other packages. For chromium specifically, I haven't looked
at the CVEs but I suspect many are for webkit and not just Chromium.

Just my 2c.


Re: [gentoo-user] www-client/chromium

2011-08-04 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:


 At least one of the multiple vulnerabilities bugs linked to a Chrome
 update notice which didn't list any vulnerabilities. (Well, except a
 Flash update, which I didn't dig into)


 --
 :wq


M Flash. Now there is a nice and secure piece of software!


-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] www-client/chromium

2011-08-04 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:14 AM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote:

  You've made an assumption there.
 
  Maybe my assumption isn't true, after all seeing the list for firefox
  that Matthew pointed to, although with firefox we don't see upgrades so
  often, I guess we should *not* feel more secure with it...

 The noscript firefox addon gives significant protection with only a
 little inconvenience. There was no equivalent for chromium last time I
 checked, and it still doesn't have a master password to protect saved
 webform passwords. Chromium is faster than a pgo build of firefox so i
 would prefer to use it, but not until those two issues are addressed.


I felt the same way, but then I found NotScript [0]. It's decent, I do like
noscript a bit better, but it gets the job done. I can't recall anything
about a master password, though, so that may still be a valid concern.

0.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/odjhifogjcknibkahlpidmdajjpkkcfn

-- 
Matthew Finkel


Re: [gentoo-user] Virtualbox VMs not running under 3.0.0-gentoo

2011-07-24 Thread Matthew Finkel

On 07/24/11 22:02, Mark Knecht wrote:

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Daniel Wagenerst...@gmx.net  wrote:

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:09:13 -0700
Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com  wrote:


Hi,
I just got around to trying my Virtualbox VMs under the new 3.0.0
kernel and they aren't working. It says vboxdrv is not set up. I drop
back to 2.6.39 and they run fine. Please note I really mean only the
VMs won't start. The Vbox GUI runs fine but then cannot start the VMs.

I used make oldconfig to get 3.0.0 working so maybe that caused the
problem but I don't yet see what's wrong looking at the config files.

Most likely this is some problem caused by the new numbering but I
Googled around looking for a solution and didn't find one. Has anyone
else here checked Virtualbox under the new kernel?

Note that VMWare seems to be running fine under 3.0.0, only
Virtualbox is failing.

Thanks,
Mark


You know that these Modules have to be compiled against the running
kernel? A re-emerge should do:

emerge -1av virtualbox-modules

Almost forgot: youd also have to reload these modules via modprobe (or
rebooting *hides*)



Actually, I think I just figured it out. The new way of loading
modules re Baselayout/OpenRC I think requires that we tell it what
kernel version we're loading the modules for. I'm on the wrong machine
right now but this machine has this sort of stuff in
/etc/conf.d/modules:

k2 ~ # cat /etc/conf.d/modules
# You can define a list modules for a specific kernel version,
# a released kernel version, a main kernel version or just a list.
#modules_2_6_23_gentoo_r5=ieee1394 ohci1394
#modules_2_6_23=tun ieee1394
#modules_2_6=tun
#modules=ohci1394

I'm guessing I need to modify this file to tell it to load the vbox
modules for 3_0 kernels

Would you concur?

Cheers,
Mark

Yes, I believe that would be your issue. I just handled that when I 
first moved over to openrc that i just added:
  modules=vboxdrv vboxnetadp vboxnetflt without even thinking 
out/dealing with kernel versions.


Give it a whirl and see if it works after you reload 'em.



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: grep -Z not working ???

2011-07-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 07/18/11 23:12, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

 the manual page of grep mentioned the following:

   -Z, --null
   Output  a  zero byte (the ASCII NUL character) instead of the 
 character that normally follows a file name.  For example, grep -lZ outputs a 
 zero byte
   after each file name instead of the usual newline.  This option 
 makes the output unambiguous, even in the presence of file names  containing  
 unusual
   characters  like  newlines.  This option can be used with 
 commands like find -print0, perl -0, sort -z, and xargs -0 to process 
 arbitrary file names,
   even those that contain newline characters.

 for me (as a non-native English speak ;) ) this means:

 Replace a newlie after a filename with a zero-byte.

 So when doing

 find /tmp | grep -Z tmp | xargs -0 md5sum

 it should work comparable to

 find /tmp -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum

 but for me it does not.

 If my logic is not complete nonsense I dont understand the second 
 part of the text of the manual page:


   This option can be used with commands like find -print0, perl 
 -0, sort -z, and xargs -0 to process arbitrary file names,
   even those that contain newline characters.


 If I would do


 find /tmp -print0 | grep -Z tmp | xargs -0 md5sum

 there are no newlines which could be printed instead of the character that 
 normally follows a file name. For example, grep -lZ outputs a zero byte
 after each file name instead of the usual newline. 


This took me a few minutes to actually figure out exactly what -Z in
supposed to do. But I *think* it does exactly this. Whatever character
comes directly after the filename is replaces by NUL. As you can see in
my example below, the character that normally follows a filename is ':'
(a colon), but with the -Z option, the colon is replace with NUL, this
no 'character' follows it.

~/joe/sullivan $ grep -Z document ./*
./core.js$(document).ready(function() {
./core.js$(document).pngFix();
./core.jsvar map = new
google.maps.Map(document.getElementById(map_of_region), myOptions);

~/joe/sullivan $ grep document ./*
./core.js:$(document).ready(function() {
./core.js:$(document).pngFix();
./core.js:var map = new
google.maps.Map(document.getElementById(map_of_region), myOptions);


But please do correct me if I'm wrong.


 At this point confusion fills my head and nonsense follows my commands
 on the command line.

 What does that all mean?

 Thank you very much for any help and de-confusion in advance! :)

 Best regards,
 mcc

HTH (and that I'm not totally off track)

- Matt



Re: [gentoo-user] qemu-kvm

2011-07-16 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 07/15/11 20:24, john wrote:
 I am running a gentoo amd64 qemu-kvm virtual image on my gentoo amd64
 box.

 Everything is running well. Machine boots up and all looks to be ok.

 When I startx the screen goes purple (on guest) and locks up. The only
 error message I get is on host.

 KVM internal error. Suberror: 1 emulation failure

 I would guess this is a graphics issue but not entirely sure.

 I have tried -vga cirrus, std, vmware but all have the same effect.

 I have emerged these in guest as xorg-drivers.

 Any suggestions!

Are there any entries in /var/log/messages or /var/log/X.0.log on the
guest related to the lock up?



Re: [gentoo-user] bridge

2011-07-10 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 07/10/11 10:50, Daniel Hilst Selli wrote:
 Hi people, I'm using brctl to create bridges for some qemu guests...

 I create a br0 with brctl addbr br0
 the I attach my wireless card to it with brctl addif br0 eth1

 Then some times I get right ip with dhcpcd br0 (after doing 'ifconfig
 br0 promisc up')
 but some times I got an strange ip
 The questions are
 What the promisc means?

 I can't understand for really the bridge concepts .. I just know that
 you attach
 cards to it, but can't understand how it route things

 cheers

Hi Daniel,

What instructions were you following that told you to use promiscuous
mode on the wireless card? For normal operation, the card should
(usually) be in managed mode.

- Matt




Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-24 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/24/11 04:47, alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote:
 After upgrading xcb, ati driver and rebooting xorg can't read mouse and 
 keyboard
 anymore. No more access to the system besides booting an unbuntu livecd.
 According to /var/log/Xorg.0.log, evdev cant't be loaded any more (see below).
 What can I do ? Is there an upgrade to evdev ?

 - excerpt from /var/log/Xorg.0.log-
  13.246] (II) LoadModule: evdev
 786 [13.246] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
 787 [13.247] (II) Module evdev: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 788 [13.247]compiled for 1.9.4, module version = 2.6.0
 789 [13.247]Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
 790 [13.247]ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 11.0
 791 [13.247] (EE) module ABI major version (11) doesn't match the
 server's version (12)
 792 [13.247] (II) UnloadModule: evdev
 793 [13.247] (II) Unloading evdev
 794 [13.247] (EE) Failed to load module evdev (module requirement
 mismatch, 0)
 795 [13.247] (EE) No input driver matching `evdev'
 796 [13.252] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Power Button
 (/dev/input/event0)
 797 [13.252] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass evdev keyboard
 catchall
 798 [13.252] (II) LoadModule: evdev
 799 [13.253] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
 800 [13.253] (II) Module evdev: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 801 [13.253]compiled for 1.9.4, module version = 2.6.0
 802 [13.253]Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
 803 [13.253]ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 11.0
 804 [13.253] (EE) module ABI major version (11) doesn't match the
 server's version (12)
 805 [13.253] (II) UnloadModule: evdev
 806 [13.253] (II) Unloading evdev
 807 [13.253] (EE) Failed to load module evdev (module requirement
 mismatch, 0)
 808 [13.253] (EE) No input driver matching `evdev'
 809 [13.254] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech Logitech
 Illuminated Keyboard (/dev/input/event2)
 810 [13.254] (**) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: Applying
 InputClass evdev keyboard catchall
 811 [13.254] (II) LoadModule: evdev
 812 [13.254] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so
 813 [13.254] (II) Module evdev: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 814 [13.254]compiled for 1.9.4, module version = 2.6.0
 815 [13.254]Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
 816 [13.254]ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 11.0
 817 [13.254] (EE) module ABI major version (11) doesn't match the
 server's version (12)
 818 [13.254] (II) UnloadModule: evdev
 819 [13.254] (II) Unloading evdev
 820 [13.254] (EE) Failed to load module evdev (module requirement
 mismatch, 0)
 821 [13.254] (EE) No input driver matching `evdev'
 822 [13.255] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech Logitech
 Illuminated Keyboard (/dev/input/event3)
 823 [13.255] (**) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: Applying
 InputClass evdev keyboard catchall
 824 [13.255] (II) LoadModule: evdev
Did you try remerging evdev? I believe there's another package you need
to reemerge also, I can't remember off the top of my head. If some one
else doesn't chime in by the time I wake up then I'll look it up.



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-23 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/23/11 07:15, Albert Hopkins wrote:

 On Thursday, June 23 at 00:35 (-0400), Matthew Finkel said:

 Oh, don't get me wrong, that's one reason I use qcow2 myself, but it's
 either something he would have to deal with when he received it or the
 conversion would increase the size of the disk image that would be
 shipped to him.
 Yes, of course a raw image file will typically be bigger than a
 compressed qcow, just as an unpacked stage4..tar.bz2 file is going to be
 bigger than the original archive.  But in terms transferability,
 compressed qcows are more efficient since they only include *used*
 blocks and they are compressed.  I can convert the image into any of a
 number of formats, but the issue then is it will be bigger, and thus
 take me longer to upload it and the OP to download it
Yup, exactly :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT/rant] Self-replicating programmer stupidity

2011-06-23 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/23/11 19:54, walt wrote:
 I've been reading the monthly security bulletin from sans.org for
 several years.  During that time I've noticed some recurring themes,
 including multiple appearances from Adobe products like Flash.

 Another recurring theme is ftp servers (of which there are dozens)
 like this month's report:

 Platform: Cross Platform
 Title: Wing FTP Server ssh public key Authentication Security Bypass
 Vulnerability
 Description: Wing FTP Server is a secure file server for Windows, Linux,
 Mac, FreeBSD and Solaris. Wing FTP Server is exposed to a security bypass
 issue that affects the SSH authentication mechanism. Versions prior to
 Wing FTP Server 3.8.8 are affected.
 Ref: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/48335/info

 Mind you, this is the first time I've seen Wing mentioned, but over the
 years there have been dozens of other ftp servers cited for other flaws
 in security.

 My question:  WTF uses these poorly written ftp servers?  Why do they
 exist?  Who asked for them?  Who wrote the code, and why?

 My tentative guess: either evil programmers, or incompetent programmers.
 (I suspect the intersection of the two sets is very small.)

 Many years ago when I was still using M$ Windows I wrote my own hex
 editor in Visual Basic.  I can't explain why I chose to do it, other
 than as an exercise to learn Visual Basic.  (I haven't used it since.)

 I'm quite certain that my hex editor would flunk even the most basic
 security tests today because I wasn't programming with security in mind.
 (In other words, I was the rankest of amateurs.)

 I'm running out of indignation now, and going to bed, but I'd welcome
 other indignant comments :)
Programming secure software is not the easiest task to master. It takes
a lot of planning and enough knowledge about the components you're using
to know exactly how they all work together, as well as how they are not
supposed to be used. In many cases, vulnerabilities originate from lack
of knowledge in novice programmers. Other's are just something that was
overlooked in the planning stage, which becomes much more possible as
the size of the program increases. And, of course, sometimes people make
a mistake.

As for the ftp(, etc) programs, this is what you get in the FOSS world.
I'm not referring to the programs with security hole, but to the
abundance of available programs of all shapes and sizes. Many are great,
some are not; but you have the option to pick and choose which work best
for you. The same is generally true for proprietary software too. No one
necessarily asked for them, but it was a choice the dev made to spend
the time to write the program. It's possible they purposefully
implemented a flawed security model, but I don't *think* that's usually
the case (but I could just be very naive).

Personally, I don't know why anyone would pay for software anymore, but
that's just me :-P



Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/22/11 02:29, Thanasis wrote:
 on 06/22/2011 08:46 AM justin wrote the following:

 One little note,

 if portage requests that you should install dev-lang/ifc instead of
 gcc[fortran], you most probably have an entry

 sys-devel/gcc -fortran

 in

 your /etc/portage/package.use

 Just remove that.


 I didn't have fortran in my USE flags at all, yet portage requested to
 install dev-lang/ifc

Was ifc pulled in as a dependency for another package?



Re: [gentoo-user] vpnc built without oppenssl

2011-06-22 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/22/11 10:03, dhk...@optonline.net wrote:
 After emerge'ing vpnc it won't run and displays the following message.

 # vpnc
 vpnc was built without openssl:  Can't do hybrid or cert mode.

 There doesn't seem to be an openssl use variable either.
 # cat /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc | grep -i openssl

 How can I get this to work?

 Thanks

 dhk
Hi,

According to equery u vpnc, there is a local use variable openssl

~ $ equery u vpnc
[ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
[: I - package is installed with flag ]
[ Colors : set, unset ]
 * Found these USE flags for net-misc/vpnc-0.5.3_p457-r1:
 U I
 - - bindist: Flag to enable or disable options for prebuilt (GRP) 
packages (eg. due to licensing issues)
 - - openssl: Use dev-libs/openssl for hybrid-auth instead of
net-libs/gnutls, may cause license issues when redistributing.
 - - resolvconf : Enable support for DNS managing framework
net-dns/openresolv

You can create a package.use file in /etc/portage and add a line to it
that includes the package name and use variable that will enable it. [0]

ex. echo net-misc/vpnc openssl  /etc/portage/package.use

- HTH (and wasn't too confusing)

[0] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2





Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/22/11 14:10, Dale wrote:
 I put -fortran in make.conf.  I ran emerge -uvDNa world and let it
 rebuild a few packages.  Then I get this:

  Emerging (1 of 2) sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226
  * lapack-lite-3.1.1.tgz RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-)
 ...   
 
 [ ok ]
  * Package:sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226
  * Repository: gentoo
  * Maintainer: s...@gentoo.org
  * USE:amd64 consolekit elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib
 policykit userland_GNU
  * FEATURES:   preserve-libs sandbox

  * Please install currently selected gcc version with USE=fortran.
  * If you intend to use a different compiler then gfortran, please
  * set FC variable accordingly and take care that the neccessary
  * fortran dialects are support.

  * ERROR: sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226 failed (setup phase):
  *   Currently no working fortran compiler is available
  *
  * Call stack:
  *  ebuild.sh, line   56:  Called pkg_setup
  *  ebuild.sh, line 1446:  Called fortran-2_pkg_setup
  *   fortran-2.eclass, line  134:  Called _die_msg
  *   fortran-2.eclass, line  120:  Called die
  * The specific snippet of code:
  *  die Currently no working fortran compiler is available
  *
  * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
 =sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226',
  * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
 =sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226'.
  * The complete build log is located at
 '/var/log/portage/sci-libs:blas-reference-20070226:20110622-180601.log'.
  * The ebuild environment file is located at
 '/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226/temp/die.env'.
  * S:
 '/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226/work/lapack-lite-3.1.1'

  Failed to emerge sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226, Log file:

  
 '/var/log/portage/sci-libs:blas-reference-20070226:20110622-180601.log'
 root@fireball / #

 Am I going in circles again?  I don't drink because I don't like being
 drunk.  I also don't spin around in my chair for the same reason.  One
 of those may be needed to reverse the problem here.

 Now to go see how to fix this mess once and for all.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)


Do correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't blas-reference pulled in by
merging gcc with USE=fortran? Or did you install blas-reference for
another reason?




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-22 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/22/11 20:11, Albert Hopkins wrote:

 On Wednesday, June 22 at 16:52 (-0500), Harry Putnam said:

 The times I've tried to get a recent gentoo version running in a vm on
 windows turned out to be labor taking days to get right.

 Does anyone know if there is a fairly current gentoo appliance
 somewhere that I can just install and then update or customize?

 I'd prefer to run it with vbox but if the appliance is vmware created
 that's ok too.  I do have a license up to 6.5.

 If that isn't available maybe someone has a fairly current kernel
 config that is known to boot on a windows host with guest gentoo.

 As I recall from my efforts, there were always problems with something
 to do with scuzzi drivers or whatnot.
 I have a program that I use to create Gentoo VM appliances.  I have no
 idea if it works with vbox or vmware as I run KVM, but I think it
 *should* work.  Anyway if you want to try it you can or, if you want, it
 also builds stage4 tarballs, so I can build you a stage4 tarball of a
 base Gentoo install pretty easily (including kernel).  The stage4
 (excluding portage) would be ~90MB (bz2).  The disk image (compressed
 QCOW is about 120MB)

The only issue with qcow2 is that in order to use it with VB, IIRC you
need to convert it to raw before you can import it.



Re: [gentoo-user] portage getting mixed up with USE?

2011-06-22 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/22/11 18:58, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:16:30 +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
 This new behavior is bad, but not as bad as Windows. This is Gentoo
 after all and not Ubuntu ;-P :-)
 Some people won't be happy until we go back to Grub style error messages,
 preferably in binary :(

How could there possibly be a better solution than going back to the
basics? :-P



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-22 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/22/11 22:14, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 Perhaps, but it's trivial to convert qcows to other formats.

Oh, don't get me wrong, that's one reason I use qcow2 myself, but it's
either something he would have to deal with when he received it or the
conversion would increase the size of the disk image that would be
shipped to him.

Was just throwing in my 2-cents :)



Re: [gentoo-user] hal?

2011-06-21 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/21/11 22:03, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 With

 quse hal

 I get ALL packages in portage, which has the hal use flag.
 That is too much ...hrmmm... info...

 If possible I want to remove hal from my system...
 Any better way to do this?

 Thank you very much for any help!
 Best regards,
 mcc


I'm not sure how different it is, but what do you get when you do
equery d hal?

Just a thought...could be wrong.



Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-21 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/21/11 23:55, Dale wrote:
 I just did my updates and ran into this:

 * Maintainer: s...@gentoo.org
  * USE:amd64 consolekit elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib
 policykit userland_GNU
  * FEATURES:   preserve-libs sandbox

  * Please install currently selected gcc version with USE=fortran.
  * If you intend to use a different compiler then gfortran, please
  * set FC variable accordingly and take care that the neccessary
  * fortran dialects are support.

  * ERROR: sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226 failed (setup phase):
  *   Currently no working fortran compiler is available
  *
  * Call stack:
  *  ebuild.sh, line   56:  Called pkg_setup
  *  ebuild.sh, line 1446:  Called fortran-2_pkg_setup
  *   fortran-2.eclass, line  134:  Called _die_msg
  *   fortran-2.eclass, line  120:  Called die
  * The specific snippet of code:
  *  die Currently no working fortran compiler is available
  *
  * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
 =sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226',
  * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
 =sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226'.
  * The complete build log is located at
 '/var/log/portage/sci-libs:blas-reference-20070226:20110622-034357.log'.
  * The ebuild environment file is located at
 '/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226/temp/die.env'.
  * S:
 '/var/tmp/portage/sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226/work/lapack-lite-3.1.1'

  Failed to emerge sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226, Log file:

  
 '/var/log/portage/sci-libs:blas-reference-20070226:20110622-034357.log'
 root@fireball / #

 This is my gcc info:

 [ebuild   R] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5  USE=gtk mudflap (multilib) nls
 nptl openmp (-altivec) -bootstrap -build -doc (-fixed-point) -fortran
 -gcj -graphite (-hardened) (-libffi) -multislot -nocxx -nopie -nossp
 -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla

 So, does everyone need to turn on the fortran USE flag so that they
 don't break anything?   May I also add, the USE flag description is
 worth about as much as a screen door on a submarine.

 fortran - Adds support for fortran (formerly f77)

 That doesn't tell me very much.

 Heads up for folks about to do their updates, check into the USE flag
 fortran to see if you need to add it to yours before updating a bunch
 of stuff.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

If I had to guess, I'd say =sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226 requires
fortran (ebuild depends on it) and you don't have another fortran
compiler installed.

Could be wrong though.

- Matt



Re: [gentoo-user] To be a dvd drive or not to be dvd drive...

2011-06-20 Thread Matthew Finkel
On 06/20/11 13:50, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

 Attached to a USB port of my PC (linux-2.6.39.1 vanilla) there is a
 USB to IDE converter, which makes my old dvd burner accessible via
 my SATA only PC.
 I thought...
 When I connect everything as described, insert an empty DVD and start
 k3b, an error message is displayed saying that there is no DVD drive
 (or better no drive at all).

 Things change, when I insert an already written DVD first, connect
 everything, start k3b and replace the dvd with an emplty one.
 Then this world is one of the best to burn dvds. ;)

 I took a look into /dev and found, that there is a /deb/usbdev2.5 when
 the drive is loaded with an empty dvd. This one is replaced by
 /dev/sr0 (including correct links to /dev/dvd and such) when the drive
 gets loaded with a already filled dvd.


Can you create a symlink from /dev/usbdev2.5 to /dev/dvd?



Re: [gentoo-user] tethering an htc incredible

2011-06-19 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote:


 Tethering with a blackberry via USB (using the BB as a USB modem)
 is extremely easy, not sure why your HTC is so stubborn...


Yea, I have the Nexus S, and it's pretty much as close to plug-n-play as
I've found on linux...
These are the steps I take in order to get usb tethering to work:
1) Plug the phone into the computer via usb cable
2) From the Setting-Wireless  netwoks submenu I enable USB Tethering
3) I wait until the device settles (just monitor dmesg)
4) After it's ready, ifconfig will show an available but non-configured
device (usb0 in my case)
5) I run dhclient usb0 and once it pulls an IP, I'm up and running.


When you plug in your phone to tether it, do you see any error messages in
the logs?


Re: [gentoo-user] Why can't I emerge telnet?

2011-04-07 Thread Matthew Finkel

  
   Thanks, I've installed this and it seems to work.
  
   learn to search portage. either eix or emerge -s
  
   That I'll have to do.  I'm not fully comfortable with emerge yet.
  
   Jeremy
 
  Sounds like you are new.  Interesting commands:  The q family.  Just
  do a man q and check it out since there is a few of them.  There is
  also eix, genlop which sort of has some common tools as the q family.
  You also need use eselect from time to time as well.  There are also
  times when revdep-rebuild will rear its head too.

 To search for specific packages, I think Dale and Mark did a good set.
 As for the others, like revdep-rebuild, there is also python-updater
 and
 etc-update.


Huh, I've been using gentoo for years and never knew about the q's,
definitely learned something new today! But I just wanted to make a note
that a few of these programs are part of the gentoolkit package. Querying
portage for revdep, equery, etc won't give you the package it belongs to.


Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/src/linux gone

2011-03-15 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:46 AM, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote:

 On 03/12/2011 01:28 PM, Matthew Finkel wrote:

 
  But if this was a pre-existing build, he should have had numerous
  kernels configured, unless he removed/moved the config each time he
  upgraded.
 
  Sean,
 
  Two questions. I don't think you ever replied as to whether /usr/src is
  a mounted partition, is it? Also, did you have multiple kernels emerged
  into different slots before this happened? if so, does portage still
  think they're installed?

 It was not a mounted partition.
 No multiple kernels. I try to clean up after myself.


Is it possible you ran depclean prior to compiling the newest kernel that
you emerged?


Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/src/linux gone

2011-03-15 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Matthew Finkel
matthew.fin...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:46 AM, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote:

 On 03/12/2011 01:28 PM, Matthew Finkel wrote:

 
  But if this was a pre-existing build, he should have had numerous
  kernels configured, unless he removed/moved the config each time he
  upgraded.
 
  Sean,
 
  Two questions. I don't think you ever replied as to whether /usr/src is
  a mounted partition, is it? Also, did you have multiple kernels emerged
  into different slots before this happened? if so, does portage still
  think they're installed?

 It was not a mounted partition.
 No multiple kernels. I try to clean up after myself.


 Is it possible you ran depclean prior to compiling the newest kernel that
 you emerged?

Actually, scratch that though. Do you have any emerged packages that depend
directly on gentoo-sources?


Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/src/linux gone

2011-03-12 Thread Matthew Finkel
2011/3/12 Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org

 on 03/12/2011 02:11 PM sean wrote the following:
  I su'd in the terminal, started the updates, and as mentioned
  eventually saw the nvidia-drivers complaining about not finding a
 .config.
 Not finding a .config is an indication that the kernel source may have
 never been touched (configured) so all files (including the directory)
 might be removed by an emerge --depclean.
  That is what led me to discover the missing directory.
  I update the system regularly.

 But if this was a pre-existing build, he should have had numerous kernels
configured, unless he removed/moved the config each time he upgraded.

Sean,

Two questions. I don't think you ever replied as to whether /usr/src is a
mounted partition, is it? Also, did you have multiple kernels emerged into
different slots before this happened? if so, does portage still think
they're installed?


Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/src/linux gone

2011-03-11 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:29 PM, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote:

 I just did an update of my system and now the linux directory under
 /usr/src is not there.
 In fact under /usr/src there is nothing.

 Something change or would anyone have any ideas of what might have
 happened, and how to fix?

Thanks
 Sean


Did you reboot your system and then realize it was empty or did you notice
it was empty after merging the updates?