Re: [gentoo-user] UEFI booting
2015-08-17 20:59 GMT+08:00 Rod r...@rods.id.au: Hi list, I'm trying to figure out how to make my boot partition to boot from UEFI, I have grub2 installed, but I keep getting a error when I ask it to install the boot information. mount /dev/sdc1 201633156 201478 1% /boot/efi I have the /boot/efi part mounted ok.. # efibootmgr efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system. # grub2-install --target=x86_64-efi /dev/sdc Installing for x86_64-efi platform. efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system. efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system. Installation finished. No error reported. I have this disk as my 1st boot drive in BIOS, the 2nd is the normal drive. Boot order is EFI then Legacy (EFI only tells me Insert boot disk and hit Enter) if you see Insert boot disk and hit Enter then you are not using EFI mode. it is printed by MS DOS bootloader, aka , the MBR. I'm assuming the variables not supported is blocking the install. BIOS reports the 1st disk to boot is EFI: ST2000DM001-1ER1 Mobo is a Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 (with the latest UEFI firmware) How can I get this UEFI be become bootable without media to make it boot in to that mode to begin with ? -- --- Regards, Rod Smart 0417 513 286
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT} CPU question
2015-07-14 0:04 GMT+08:00 meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, I am on the way to decide for a tablet PC (7) to use it as a platform for installing Linux (preferred: Gentoo!) on it and compile software for it for usage of decoding shortwave audio transmissions (i.e. morse code, sstv, etc.) for example. I mean this NOT performance wise or anything else than the technical possibility to painless compile linux software on this CPU, so... Is an Intel Atom Z3745 (quad core) a sane decision? Are crosscompilers freely available for it (or is this CPU even i386 compatible) (tablet: Asus MEMO Pad 7(ME176CX)) Thank you very much in advance for any help ! Best regards, Meino many device with Z3745 uses 32bit UEFI firmware, so you have to use 32bit UEFI loader and enable mixed mode to load 64bit kernel from 32bit bootloader
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: qpdfview - asking for qt4 or qt5
2015-04-26 11:51 GMT+08:00 Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com: On 26/04/15 01:46, Joseph wrote: On 04/25/15 20:43, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 25/04/15 19:54, Joseph wrote: I've on my system qpdfview (without qt*) but the system wants to upgrade to qpdfview-0.4.13-r1 and it is asking for qt4 or qt5 [...] Why? Because it can now be build using Qt4 or Qt5. You have to choose one. If you're on KDE4, enable the qt4 USE flag (otherwise the application won't integrate with KDE desktop.) If you're not on KDE4, then you might as well choose qt5. I'm using older version and have neither Qt4 nor Qt5 So I'm surprized they are forcing on me Qt. I've solved the problem qpdfview removed the package. Older ebuilds were only supporting building with Qt 4. To keep using that, simply enable the qt4 USE flag; it will them work exactly the same as before. Also, if you didn't need the package, why did you have it installed to begin with? :-/ hate qt is a disease.
Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer
on Thursday 02 April 2015 18:33:06，Boricua Siempre wrote： From: Boricua Siempre borikua.197...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Yesterday 06:33:06 Hello I have reading of quantum computing and I want know what operating systems are use in quantum computers. And I read quantum computers can use particols moving faster than light but on other book particels faster than light make analog sonar boom that can destroy universe. Is quantum computer dangerus? Sorry if my english not good, still learning. particols are not faster than light. when you mesure quantum A to have state A, then you can assume quantum B is in state B. but there is no information transfer, because the one that mesure the remote quantum B don't know your mesurement, you have to pass the result by ordinary method, which is still slower than light.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?
on Saturday 21 March 2015 13:58:45，Canek Peláez Valdés wrote：
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 3:39 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
No, I am trying to shutdown from a console
Well, the old answer would be that you need to use sudo to run it, as
shutting down is a privileged operation.
I suspect that the new answer is that with appropriate
policykit/consolekit/etc settings you can probably allow somebody
sitting at a physical console to shut down the system, or any
logged-in user if you prefer. However, I haven't actually set that up
myself.
logind does that for you automagically™. The first seat has the rights to
poweroff or reboot the machine, and it can differentiate between local and
remote logins. You can check if your user session has the permissions to
poweroff/reboot via dbus:
$ gdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.login1 --object-path
/org/freedesktop/login1 --method org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.CanPowerOff
('yes',)
$ gdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.login1 --object-path
/org/freedesktop/login1 --method org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.CanReboot
('yes',)
But you need systemd to use logind1. There has been some attempts to
reimplement logind outside systemd, but I'm not sure how advanced they are.
This kind of problems were one of the reasons for creating logind.
and dump people keep talking nonsencely that sysvinit is enough while it
cannot even handle reboot for normal user. sad.
Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?
on Sunday 22 March 2015 02:32:00，German wrote： On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 18:51:58 -0400 Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: On Saturday, March 21, 2015 4:58:42 PM German wrote: On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 16:32:25 -0400 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 150321 German wrote: If I run poweroff from root, the system shuts down. When I run poweroff from user -- command not found. How to shut down the system from user ? I'ld say Don't : it's contrary to the principles of Unix, which separate the roles of sysadmin (root) from those of ordinary users. To shut down, I first exit Fluxbox via its menu, then 'su' + root password, then alias 'down' = 'shutdown -h now'. That observes the proper roles + ceremonies (smile). Interesting. But as I said ealier, I can reboot the system when I am a user by Ctrl+Alt+Delete. The user can reboot the system, but can't shut down? Strange Either /sbin/poweroff or /usr/sbin/poweroff will do it from a local session (if there's no other users logged in locally). /sbin/poweroff says Must be a superuser :( then it's high time for you to trash away sysvint and openrc, and try systemd!!! Like I said, /sbin is only on the search path for root by default on gentoo.
[gentoo-user] glamor is very fast and stable now
If you're using intel gpu and want to tryout KDE5, you'll like to use modesetting DDX driver with glamor acceleration. Yes, I'm using now! And KWin stopes crashing with modesetting driver now, nice ;) with xf86-video-intel, KWin craches a lot and the screen glittering.
[gentoo-user] glibc-2.20 and intel microcode
I've finnally detected the root cause of glibc-2.20 broken my system: glibc-2.20 start using TLX instruction which is disabled by microcode update. disabling microcode update brings my system back to live! so, there is either a bug in CPU , nor glibc has borken CPU feature detection.
Re: [gentoo-user] mini-PCIe SSD
在 2014年9月7日 星期日 11:55:45，Grant 写道： I'm trying to use one of these mini-PCIe storage devices: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008KWEA88 in a Gigabyte Brix mini-computer but there isn't a /dev/sd* entry for it and it isn't in lspci. Any ideas? - Grant You need to have a ATA driver for that SSD if it is not based on AHCI.
Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)
在 2014年8月16日 星期六 21:52:04，Сергей 写道： I use KDE, because it has biggest amount of functions KDE Connect, KRunner and Amarok have no match in GTK-world. If they had, I would use Xfce. Yeah, KRunner is what makes me even unable to use Windows. Also, kdevelop is the best IDE ever created, even Visual Studio has no match if you don't Visual AssistX installed. If you really adopted to KDE, no other DE will ever be in you sight.
[gentoo-user] texstudio scans the while disk when starting up
I've been experimenting slow texstudio startup for long time, now I manage to figure out why this would have happend. using strace texstudio I was supprised that texstudio is scanning my while disks ! I see a lot of statefs and openat and texstudio iterates the whole root filesystem! no wonder texstudio took more than one minute to complete startup ! does anyone have the same problem ?
Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86
2014-07-09 0:49 GMT+08:00 João Jerónimo joao.jeronimo...@gmail.com: Hello. I installed the uclibc stage3 tarball no a x86 machine (I chose uclibc because the PC has only 256 MB of RAM). I'm currently trying to install glibc is fine with 256M, trying to use uclibc does not magically reduce the memory footprint. NetworkManager, but I ran into a problem, which is: NetworkManager needs 'policykit' USE flag to be applyed to consolekit package. This pulls-in policykit package as a dependency of consolekit, which in turn doesn't compile because it calls some funcions that uclibc doesn't implement. Can't I install networkmanager in uclibc systems, then? consolekit is not maintained anymore. try use systemd instead.
Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux
在 2014年6月30日 星期一 09:17:02，Joost Roeleveld 写道： On Monday 30 June 2014 01:26:48 waben...@gmail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 16:26 schrieb Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: waben...@gmail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 29.06.2014 um 20:38 schrieb Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:29:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Please folks, stop that crap. It has nothing to do with gentoo or computers at all. If you wanna discuss the delightfulness of war machines then please to this at another place and not on this list. Allow me to introduce your to my good friend Delete and his lovely wife button Or you could filter anything with OT in the subject to /dev/null. It's not like this thread is masquerading as something relevant. That's not the point. If you wanna talk about stuff that's apparently absolut useless to almost every member of this ML, then you should do this at another place. Especially discussions with politically and or military background are IMHO absolutely inappropriate. But hey, maybe I'm wrong. Why shouldn't we talk here about everything that cross one's mind? We could mark it as OT in the subject line, so it should be no problem for everyone. Maybe we should discuss the local daily weather? I think, that's a pretty good idea as it would increase the noise level of this list even more. What do you think? Just a FYI. I have in the past asked questions about Windoze XP on this very list. Why, I'm not joining a windoze mailing list for just one question and I know a lot of people on this list know about windoze as well. I have seen other topics raised on this list before. It's not often but it does happen. I see Gentoo threads that don't interest me at all and I just mark them as read and move right along but I don't tell folks that I don't want to see them. I could start with systemd. If I see systemd in the subject, I mark it read and move right along usually without reading even the first post. Why, I don't use systemd so I am certainly not interested in it. There are other threads that I do the same thing with. That's right. But all examples you've mentioned are computer related topics and maybe useful for anyone on this list. We can turn this into a computer related thread. Anyone know of a way to get a flight-sim (for model planes) to run on Linux? I have a legit copy of Realflight ( http://www.realflight.com ) and occasionally have to boot into a legit copy (yes, all my software is 100% legit) of MS Windows. X-plane ? Ideas welcome. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?
2014-06-21 1:48 GMT+08:00 Kai Krakow hurikha...@gmail.com: microcai micro...@fedoraproject.org schrieb: rsync is doing bunch of 4k ramdon IO when updateing portage tree, that will kill SSDs with much higher Write Amplification Factror. I have a 2year old SSDs that have reported Write Amplification Factor of 26. I think the only reason is that I put portage tree on this SSD to speed it up. Use a file system that turns random writes into sequential writes, like the pretty newcomer f2fs. You could try using it for your rootfs but currently I suggest just creating a separate partition for it and either mount it as /usr/portage or symlink that dir into this directory (that way you could use it for other purposes, too, that generate random short writes, like log files). Then, I'd recommend changing your scheduler to deadline, bump up the io queue depth to a much higher value (echo -n 2048 /sys/block/sdX/queue/nr_requests) and then change the dirty io flusher to not run as early as it usually would (change vm.dirty_writeback_centisecs to 1500 and vm.dirty_expire_centisecs to 3000). That way the vfs layer has a chance to better coalesce multi-block writes into one batch write, and f2fs will take care of doing it in sequential order. I'd also suggest not to use the discard mount options and instead create a cronjob that runs fstrim on the SSD devices. But YMMV. As a safety measure, only ever partition and use only 70-80% of your SSD so it can reliably do its wear-leveling. It will improve lifetime and keep the performance up even with filled filesystems. -- many thanks to all of you! no I've put my portage tree on an F2FS partation now.
[gentoo-user] [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?
rsync is doing bunch of 4k ramdon IO when updateing portage tree, that will kill SSDs with much higher Write Amplification Factror. I have a 2year old SSDs that have reported Write Amplification Factor of 26. I think the only reason is that I put portage tree on this SSD to speed it up. what is the suggest way to reduce Write Amplification of a portage sync ?
Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.18 build problem
2014-03-21 23:44 GMT+08:00 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org: On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 18:43:27 +0800 microcai micro...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I'm having trouble compiling glibc. No matter I tried with binutils 2.23 2.24. or - live version, I got ld internal error in x86_64_relocation . And the same error repeated with glibc-2.18 and glibc-2.19 . Don't know why . The google bring me a old bug report about x86_64_relocation internal error when used conjunction with IFUNC, but that doesn't seems to be related with mine problem. When I first try to update glibc to 2.18, it's fine. but then the attempt to update glibc to 2.18-r1 failed with ld internal error. This error remains with glibc-2.16-r2 and glibc-2.19, regardless of binutils version. Does anyone have had the same problem? Can you file a bug at https://bugs.gentoo.org such that the maintainers are aware of this? That is, only if it is still reproducible today. fixed. it's because of a wired CFLAGS -Bsymblic-functions that I put into make.conf once for testing but forget to remove afterwards. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
[gentoo-user] glibc-2.18 build problem
I'm having trouble compiling glibc. No matter I tried with binutils 2.23 2.24. or - live version, I got ld internal error in x86_64_relocation . And the same error repeated with glibc-2.18 and glibc-2.19 . Don't know why . The google bring me a old bug report about x86_64_relocation internal error when used conjunction with IFUNC, but that doesn't seems to be related with mine problem. When I first try to update glibc to 2.18, it's fine. but then the attempt to update glibc to 2.18-r1 failed with ld internal error. This error remains with glibc-2.16-r2 and glibc-2.19, regardless of binutils version. Does anyone have had the same problem?
[gentoo-user] glibc build problem
he guys. I'm having trouble compiling glibc. No matter I tried with binutils 2.23 2.24. or - live version, I got ld internal error in x86_64_relocation . And the same error repeated with glibc-2.18 and glibc-2.19 . Don't know why . The google bring me a old bug report about x86_64_relocation internal error when used conjunction with IFUNC, but that doesn't seems to be related with mine problem. When I first try to update glibc to 2.18, it's fine. but then the attempt to update glibc to 2.18-r1 failed with ld internal error. This error remains with glibc-2.16-r2 and glibc-2.19, regardless of binutils version.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
在 2013-8-19 上午5:55，pk pete...@coolmail.se写道： On 2013-08-18 23:08, Mick wrote: I honestly cannot understand why we/Gentoo are allowing the RHL monolithic development philosophy to break what we have. Is Poettering the only developer available to the Linux world? Are RHL dictating what path Debian and its cousin distros should follow? Problem is that Linux is dependent on udev and udev is in the hands of Kay Sievers which also develops systemd together with Lennart Poettering which in turn used to be a Gnome developer... With that said, what I cannot understand is why people advocating systemd (and the kitchen-and-sink model) are using Gentoo in the first place. Are they just trying to make the rest of the Linux distro landscape as miserable as Fedora? Why don't they stay with Fedora instead of trying to turn Gentoo into Fedora? Best regards Peter K any one complant to systemd is not a programer. he does not understand how bad sysvinit it is from the code point of view.. some one even say the old version is more stable than latest version even the author say no and drop the support. this is all the stupicy of non programer. they think they understand progam while in fact no.
Re: [gentoo-user] plasma-desktop crash on boot
在 2013-8-16 上午9:48，东方巽雷 dongfangxun...@gmail.com写道： gentoo testing,kernel3.10.6,qt4.8.5,kde4.11,32bit system,plasma-desktop segmentation fault on every boot time.But when I run it in konsole,it didn't crash any more,just show X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3.Is there someone having the same problem? you should use amd64. i had upgraded, everything work fine
Re: [gentoo-user] SQL Server Advice for Small Business
2013/7/30 Randy Westlund rwest...@gmail.com: Hey guys, I'm planning to set up an SQL server for my dad's small canvas awning business, and I've never done this before. Most of my sysadmin-type skills are self-taught. I could use some advice. spot a girl
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boost version problem
2013/1/24 Jacques Montier jmont...@gmail.com: 2013/1/24 Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com On 24/01/13 17:05, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:53:48 +0100 Jacques Montier jmont...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Libreoffice-4.0 needs boost 1.49 (so works with boost-1.52.0-r5) and Nightshade LSS (for planetarium but not in portage) needs boost 1.5 (so works with 1.49.0-r2). Is it possible to install both 1.49 and 1.52 (in new slot) ? update Nightshade to work with boost 1.52 is the only way to go. No. Boost IIRC used to be slotted, but not anymore. Like any other package, you get one and only one version at a time. When i emerge boost-1.52, boots-1.49 in uninstalled and vice versa. So don't install boost-1.52 and take it out of world if you have it there. Portage will install boost-1.49.0-r2 for you and maintain the updates for you. You do not have to fiddle with it. What if I need boost-1.52 for my own software I build? Libreoffice-4.0 needs app-text/libmspub and dev-libs/liborcus which need boost-1.52. So what can i do ? Actually, i have boost-1.49.0-r2 and Libreoffice-3.6.4.3 -- Jacques
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Will ARM take over the world?
2012/12/9 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com: It seems like ARM processors will destroy x86 before too long. Does anyone think this won't happen? No， it won't. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?
2012/11/26 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com: Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 08:23:44 schrieb William Kenworthy: On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 00:02 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 06:46:28 schrieb William Kenworthy: Has anyone tried swap on ssd? - has it killed the drive prematurely? - any other effects? I have a system that is maxed with with 4G ram and tends to use swap heavily at times which slows things down ... so I am thinking a small ssd might help here. you know what helps even more? replacing those 4g with 8g. I would if I could - physical max is 4G ... so the 4gb are sitting on the mobo itself? Or are we talking about some system from the bronze ages which does not accept sticks bigger than 512mb - and you put 8 into it? either way, new board+8gb will make you happier than a destroyed ssd. I suggest 16G if you'll buy next year. KDE will eat 2G itself. :) -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] swap on ssd?
2012/11/26 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 00:02 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag, 26. November 2012, 06:46:28 schrieb William Kenworthy: Has anyone tried swap on ssd? - has it killed the drive prematurely? - any other effects? I have a system that is maxed with with 4G ram and tends to use swap heavily at times which slows things down ... so I am thinking a small ssd might help here. you know what helps even more? replacing those 4g with 8g. I would if I could - physical max is 4G ... a new mainborad is cheaper than SSDs. sell the currently used one and buy new one. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] SSD configuration
2012/11/26 Jacques Montier jmont...@gmail.com: 2012/11/25 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org Jacques Montier writes: I bought a 250Go SSD M4 Crucial , read (of course) Gentoo documentation and installed the drive on my desktop pc (Asus MB, Intel ie7 and 6Go RAM). 1- Everything seems to work perfectly, but i would like to know if my configuration is ok or could be optimized. /tmp and /var/log are on tmpfs Like Volker said. Yikes! Or is that just a typo and you meant /var/tmp? Still, I would prefer to have that on the HDD. /boot, / and /var are on SSD (sda), swap, /home, /usr/portage, /var/tmp and /var/log on a 1To SATA HDD (sdb) I would put the portage tree on the SDD. Wonko Alex, Each time you sync the portage, you should write on the SSD... Is it a good thing ? yes, then you can ask a new one within the garentee time. As Volker said, i put /var on the HDD, and it works fine. Regards, -- Jacques
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [PATCH] Linus breaks nvidia-drivers again
change VM_RESERVERD to VM_DONTDUMP|VM_IO 2012/10/16 walt w41...@gmail.com: On 10/15/2012 11:10 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 09:05:27AM -0700, walt wrote Well, this is really a temporary workaround for people who like to run the latest git kernel from Linus, and it's only tested for nvidia-drivers-302.17-r1, and only on ~amd_64. Which kernel version does the breakage start at, so I know not to rush into it when it goes mainstream? Linus committed the breakage to his git repository just last week, so the nvidia people should have it fixed for 3.7. Same goes for virtualbox and ati-drivers, I hope. But to answer your question, the breakage starts with linux-3.7.0-rc1.
Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : DVD drive
2012/8/20 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net: Apologies for the elementary questions, but I'm a bit slow to change (smile). In designing my new machine, I assumed that I would simply transfer the CD drive from the existing box to the new one, but (1) the new mobo seems to have only SATA sockets (2) CD drives seem to be going the same way as diskette drives, so I'm now planning to buy a new DVD drive to start using DVDs. I wb using them only for back-ups, not playing music or videos. This looks like a good enough item : ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24x SATA Black R 48x W 8x OEM : CAD 24,99 Can anyone answer a few rather basic questions ? (1) do I need to configure the kernel to find the drive ? NO. just enable packet write and SCSI_CDROM (2) what software do Gentoo users use to read/write DVDs ? k3b is a good one (3) are there rewritable DVDs, as there used to be rewritable CDs ? sure -- among the specs are much slower speeds labelled 'RW'. (4) anything else I sb aware of ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : CPU : 22 nm vs 32 nm
CPU speed does not matter. what matters most is the I/O speed. As far as I can tell, AMD chip suffered with a lot of I/O. Their Hyper-transport seems not competitive with Intel's ring bus 2012/7/26 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Евгений Пермяков permea...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/26/2012 05:50 PM, Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Евгений Пермяков permea...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/26/2012 12:05 AM, Philip Webb wrote: I've listed what's available at the local store, which I trust to stock reliable items, tho' I wouldn't ask their advice. All the AMD's are 32 nm , while the Intel recommended by one commenter -- Core i5-3570 4-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.4 Ghz, 6MB L3 Cache, 22 nm -- is 22 nm : it costs CAD 230 they have 3 in stock, which suggests demand, but not the most popular ( 9 in stock). Isn't 22 nm going to be faster than 32 nm ? In the same price range, AMD offers Bulldozer X8 FX-8150 (125W) 8-Core Socket AM3+, 3.6 GHz, 8Mb Cache, 32 nm ( CAD 220 , 2 in stock). How do you compare cores vs nm ? How far is cache size important ( 6 vs 8 MB )? When I built my current machine 2007, the CPU cost CAD 213 , so both look as if they're in the right ballpark. If you're building new, performance-oriented box, you should take latest intel with AVX because of AVX. As I recall, recent gcc has support for avx, so some performance gain may be achieved. If you want home box, you may be interested in AMD A8 and similar chips, as they are reasonably fast and very chip AMD parts have had AVX since the Bulldozer core release in Q3 2011. Are they already available in reasonable numbers on market? http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8120+Eight-Core At $150, fitting into existing Socket AM3+ boards, that looks like the best part for my money right now. In any case, I'd put most of my money in 2-4 big 3Tb HDD's for media and 8+ Gb fast memory, as modern browsers eat memory like crazies and CPU is usually fast enough. Decoding HDTV mkv's should occur on gpu block in any case, so general performance for most uses is irrelevant, as it was fast enough four yesrs earlier. Simply check, that you can offload HDTV decoding to GPU in your config. Here, you're talking about either VDPAU or VAAAPI support. VDPAU is only offered by nVidia cards, and even then you need to run the proprietary driver. VAAPI is supported by Intel graphics and ATI's proprietary driver. I do not see any problems with this. A blob in system is not best practice, of course, but it does not need any configuration and is not a performance bottle-neck, so there is no reason to care. I only bring it up because some people do care. I'm running fglrx at home right now. When I run nVdia, I run the nVidia drivers. In part because I like accelerated video decoding (which a Geforce 210 does wonderfully), in part because the nv, nouveau and radeon drivers historically worked very poorly for me in 2D performance when faced with multiple 1080p displays. They're always getting better, of course. I personally would prefer AMD A8 if I can offload decoding to GPU unit there (not sure if I can, so won't change my box till next summer), but discrete video card will not be the most costly part in good non-gaming box, hard drives will, so again, what the matter? Computer usage breaks down into more than gaming and non-gaming. My non-gaming boxes at home tend to have their CPU, RAM or NICs as their most expensive components, because that's where I need them to perform better. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : CPU : 22 nm vs 32 nm
2012/7/26 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net: I've listed what's available at the local store, which I trust to stock reliable items, tho' I wouldn't ask their advice. All the AMD's are 32 nm , while the Intel recommended by one commenter -- Core i5-3570 4-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.4 Ghz, 6MB L3 Cache, 22 nm -- is 22 nm : it costs CAD 230 they have 3 in stock, which suggests demand, but not the most popular ( 9 in stock). Isn't 22 nm going to be faster than 32 nm ? In the same price range, AMD offers Bulldozer X8 FX-8150 (125W) 8-Core Socket AM3+, 3.6 GHz, 8Mb Cache, 32 nm ( CAD 220 , 2 in stock). How do you compare cores vs nm ? How far is cache size important ( 6 vs 8 MB )? cache size is always the most important thing. cache miss is the top reason your application slows down. When I built my current machine 2007, the CPU cost CAD 213 , so both look as if they're in the right ballpark. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : (1) which CPU ?
2012/7/21 Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com: On 20/07/12 10:24, Philip Webb wrote: I plan to build a new machine in the next few months: it wb for regular desktop use, but performance is as important as price. A quick look at what was available in April suggested an Intel Ivy Bridge i7 ( 22 nm ) ; Phoronix said it works with Kernel 3.2 + an Intel Z77 mobo (I usually buy ASUS) that power/watt was excellent. The best performance for money is the i5 2550K CPU. If you want the integrated graphics because you don't have an actual graphics card, you can go for the 2500K. For those don't want an integrated graphics, buy Xeon E3-123? serise CPU. the same price as i5 2500K , but you got 8 thread :) This is a Sandy Bridge CPU. I normally don't recommend the Ivy Bridge ones because they run hotter, so changing the clock multipliers isn't as fun as with Sandy Bridge.
Re: [gentoo-user] profiling:/var/tmp/portage/xfce-base ... Cannot create directory
2012/7/9 v...@ukr.net Hello! On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 08:51:32 +0800 microcai micro...@fedoraproject.org wrote: You forgot to disable pgo when you compile some xfce-session . What is 'pgo'? profile guided optimize If you enable it , software will generate profile data when it runs. of-course the profile data will be output to the *same* dir it got compiled. That's why it write to /var/tmp But you are not running xfce-session as root, are you? so xfce-session won't be able to create profile data. Thanks. Vladimir - v...@ukr.net
Re: [gentoo-user] profiling:/var/tmp/portage/xfce-base ... Cannot create directory
You forgot to disable pgo when you compile some xfce-session . 2012/7/9 v...@ukr.net Hello! I noticed some strange messages in my ~/.xsession-errors log-file today. They look like this: profiling:/var/tmp/portage/xfce-base:Cannot create directory profiling:/var/tmp/portage/xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.6.1-r1/work/xfce4-session-4.6.1/xfce4-session/xfce4_session-ice-layer.gcda:Skip profiling:/var/tmp/portage/xfce-base:Cannot create directory profiling:/var/tmp/portage/xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.6.1-r1/work/xfce4-session-4.6.1/xfce4-session/xfce4_session-main.gcda:Skip . . . and so on. I haven't seen such messages before, that is why decided to ask here about what they mean. It is also strange that they mention the '/var/tmp/portage/' directory. Maybe something is wrong with installation system? Thanks. Vladimir - v...@ukr.net
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-drivers + kernel 3.4
don't, use 295.59 :) 2012/6/15 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net I haven't seen any mention of the problem here, but after installing Kernel 3.4 , Nvidia-drivers 295.49 wouldn't compile. The solution (via Google + Launchpad bugzilla) is to copy 4 header files from /usr/src/linux/arch/arm/include/asm to -/-/-/-/x86/include/asm : system.h compiler.h system_info.h system_misc.h . Also the Ethernet kernel config lines have changed a bit I had to ask explicitly for my mobo's version with 'r8169'. HTH others -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] ~gcc-4.7.0
2012/5/29 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On May 29, 2012 4:15 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 2012-05-28 22:54, schrieb Sascha Cunz: On Monday, 28. May 2012 22:04:30 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: As GCC-4.7.0 appeared for ~amd64 now ... anyone recompiled system or world with it already? More advantages or disadvantages? I tried an emerge -ev world yesterday (on a box with a total about 1100 emergeed packages), so far only had compiling trouble with gst-pluings-ffmpeg (gcc4.7.0 bug including patch is on b.g.o[1], so was easy to solve) and firefox 12. All of KDE 4.8.3 and libreoffice did emerge nicely. Though i did not test the results yet. SaCu [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=407741 Thanks alot, Sascha, for that helpful feedback! I will give it a try on one of my machines tonight. In gentoo-ricer-terms: did you notice any improvements? ;-) LOL Yeah, I am also wondering how much improvement graphite sees with 4.7.0 *shuffles over to gcc changelog I'm mostly looking forward to Bulldozer support and RDRAND. LOL I thought no one buys it -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] The LIGHTEST web server (just for serving files)?
http://code.google.com/p/bashttpd/ run with systemd or xinetd 于 2011年11月14日 18:05, J. Roeleveld 写道: On Sat, November 12, 2011 2:11 pm, YoYo Siska wrote: On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 07:40:08PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: During my drive home, something hit my brain: why not have the 'master' server share the distfiles dir via NFS? So, the question now becomes: what's the drawback/benefit of NFS-sharing vs HTTP-sharing? The scenario is back-end LAN at the office, thus, a trusted network by definition. NFS doesn't like when it looses connection to the server. The only problems I had ever with NFS were because I forgot to unmout it before a server restart or when I took a computer (laptop) off to another network... NFS-shares can work, but these need to be umounted before network goes. If server goes, problems can occur there as well. But that is true with any server/client filesharing. (CIFS/Samba, for instance) Otherwise it works well, esp. when mounted ro on the clients, however for distfiles it might make sense to allow the clients download and save tarballs that are not there yet ;), though I never used it with many computer emerging/downloading same same stuff, so can't say if locking etc works correctly... Locking works correctly, have had 5 machines share the same NFS-shared distfiles and all downloading the source-files. And with NFS the clients won't duplicate the files in their own distfiles directories ;) Big plus, for me :) -- Joost signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] UEFI specification
2011/11/12 James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com: Here is a quick description of how Redmond intends to taint the bios on new products: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-heavyweights-develop-secure-boot-strategy So, recently I took a live-dvd-11.2 into Costco to check out a new HP laptop (DV7-6178US). It would not boot the DVD. How can I research if the UEFI bios is the issue? In the past the live gentoo dvds have booted up most every (new) laptop I have tested. Sure I can purchase the laptop, bring it home and hack on it, but, it would be much more straight forward if there was a list of UEFI infected computers somewhere. (any lists?) I do not want to waste my time on a laptop that has this MS tainted bios. Methods and ideas to flush this out, before purchase are most welcome? Is it possible that some windows 7 laptops have the UEFI bios? UEFI only boots 64bit OS. 32bit OS should be loaded via BIOS emulation mode. So, if the pre-installed windows is 32bit. the UEFI must not be tainted. I usually prefer a dual boot laptop, with doz and gentoo, but that looks like a fading option these days.? James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] How to show Chinese or write Chinese on console ?
On 2011年11月07日 15:37, Blackdream W wrote: We called 飞天豹补丁” :) 这家伙比较忙, 用到新内核上可能需要费点功夫。我是个闲人，我修改过补丁 会及时跟进最新的内核的。 ^_^ repo.or.cz/w/linux-2.6/cjktty.git 在 2011年11月7日 下午2:27，Lavender lavender_mat...@163.com写道： 在 2011-11-07 13:10:16，microcai micro...@fedoraproject.org 写道： show 可以，有内核级别的中文补丁。 要 write 的话可以使用 zhcon 或者 fbterm 配合 ibus-fbterm 其实我只要show就可以了，补丁叫啥名字，是不是直接安装就行了？ PS：原来这里还有Chinese啊，平时都不见冒泡。 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re:[gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] How to show Chinese or write Chinese on console ?
merge the utf8 branch , enable CJK font , recompile your kernel. enjoy it. 在 2011年11月7日 下午9:48，Lavender lavender_mat...@163.com 写道： I have created file named 00locale in directory /etc/env.d/ The content of 00locale is like below: LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8 the rest variables are all en_US.UTF-8 Then I used commands below: #locale-gen #env-update source /etc/profile But it still can't show Chinese, you said that a console font that displays double byte also needed,so which font should I choose? At 2011-11-07 13:10:03,bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 6, 2011 8:01 PM, Lavender lavender_mat...@163.com wrote: Lavender, You should look into changing your locale, as a start. You can start here http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml but for chinese you will also need to choose a console font that displays double byte. 在 2011-11-07 11:20:04，aca.jingru aca.jin...@gmail.com 写道： zhcon aca.jingru Someone told me that zhcon is not stable, it may result in system crash. I think safe method may be needed.
Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] How to show Chinese or write Chinese on console ?
show 可以，有内核级别的中文补丁。 要 write 的话可以使用 zhcon 或者 fbterm 配合 ibus-fbterm signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
