Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?

2007-08-08 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 02:21, Grant wrote:
 My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the
 temperature in the case during a qt compile.  Now I'm seeing all kinds
 of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the system
 was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on it.

 Is that definitely the video card?

Sounds like it.  Just in case it has not been totalled you may want to open 
the case, remove the video card and use a soft brush and vacuum cleaner to 
clean its cooling fan and heatsink.  This may be underneath the card and 
difficult to reach without taking it out.  While you're at it, repeat the 
exercise on the CPU.

On hot days and marginal cooling systems it is not a bad idea to open the case 
and place an external fan to blow over it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?

2007-08-08 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Mittwoch 08 August 2007 09:22 schrieb Mick:
 On Wednesday 08 August 2007 02:21, Grant wrote:
  My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the
  temperature in the case during a qt compile.  Now I'm seeing all kinds
  of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the system
  was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on it.
 
  Is that definitely the video card?

 Sounds like it.  Just in case it has not been totalled you may want to open
 the case, remove the video card and use a soft brush and vacuum cleaner to
 clean its cooling fan and heatsink.  This may be underneath the card and
 difficult to reach without taking it out.  While you're at it, repeat the
 exercise on the CPU.


Or maybe it's the thermal grease paste, it usually doesn't like being roasted. 
Replace it, if possible. 

I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff but I had similar artifacts while 
overclocking my video RAM so maybe the chips didn't make it.



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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?

2007-08-08 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 09:33, Florian Philipp wrote:
 Am Mittwoch 08 August 2007 09:22 schrieb Mick:
  On Wednesday 08 August 2007 02:21, Grant wrote:
   My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the
   temperature in the case during a qt compile.  Now I'm seeing all kinds
   of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the system
   was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on it.
  
   Is that definitely the video card?
 
  Sounds like it.  Just in case it has not been totalled you may want to
  open the case, remove the video card and use a soft brush and vacuum
  cleaner to clean its cooling fan and heatsink.  This may be underneath
  the card and difficult to reach without taking it out.  While you're at
  it, repeat the exercise on the CPU.

 Or maybe it's the thermal grease paste, it usually doesn't like being
 roasted. Replace it, if possible.

 I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff but I had similar artifacts while
 overclocking my video RAM so maybe the chips didn't make it.

http://www.arcticsilver.com/

I have used Arctic Silver 5 and have been very happy with it (on an 
overclocked PIII).
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?

2007-08-08 Thread Tim Allingham
On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 10:25 +0100, Mick wrote:
 On Wednesday 08 August 2007 09:33, Florian Philipp wrote:
  Am Mittwoch 08 August 2007 09:22 schrieb Mick:
   On Wednesday 08 August 2007 02:21, Grant wrote:
My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the
temperature in the case during a qt compile.  Now I'm seeing all kinds
of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the system
was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on it.
   
Is that definitely the video card?
  
   Sounds like it.  Just in case it has not been totalled you may want to
   open the case, remove the video card and use a soft brush and vacuum
   cleaner to clean its cooling fan and heatsink.  This may be underneath
   the card and difficult to reach without taking it out.  While you're at
   it, repeat the exercise on the CPU.
 
  Or maybe it's the thermal grease paste, it usually doesn't like being
  roasted. Replace it, if possible.
 
  I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff but I had similar artifacts while
  overclocking my video RAM so maybe the chips didn't make it.
 
 http://www.arcticsilver.com/
 
 I have used Arctic Silver 5 and have been very happy with it (on an 
 overclocked PIII).

It's also quite possible its the PSU if your still using the same one,
have you replaced it?   


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?

2007-08-08 Thread Joshua Doll

Grant wrote:

My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the
temperature in the case during a qt compile.  Now I'm seeing all kinds
of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the system
was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on it.

Is that definitely the video card?

- Grant
  
I would think so. Unless you have an integrated video card. Then I'd be 
concerned about the Motherboard. Try the video card in a known working 
system that will give you loads of information.


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?

2007-08-08 Thread Grant
 My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the
 temperature in the case during a qt compile.  Now I'm seeing all kinds
 of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the system
 was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on it.

 Is that definitely the video card?
   
Sounds like it.  Just in case it has not been totalled you may want to
open the case, remove the video card and use a soft brush and vacuum
cleaner to clean its cooling fan and heatsink.  This may be underneath
the card and difficult to reach without taking it out.  While you're at
it, repeat the exercise on the CPU.
  
   Or maybe it's the thermal grease paste, it usually doesn't like being
   roasted. Replace it, if possible.
  
   I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff but I had similar artifacts while
   overclocking my video RAM so maybe the chips didn't make it.
 
  http://www.arcticsilver.com/
 
  I have used Arctic Silver 5 and have been very happy with it (on an
  overclocked PIII).

 It's also quite possible its the PSU if your still using the same one,
 have you replaced it?

Really, the power supply itself could be causing the video problems?
I am still using the same one with the case open for ventilation.  I'm
about to order some stuff from New Egg.  Not sure if I should include
a video card now.

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?

2007-08-08 Thread Tim Allingham
On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 08:10 -0700, Grant wrote:
  My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the
  temperature in the case during a qt compile.  Now I'm seeing all 
  kinds
  of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the 
  system
  was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on 
  it.
 
  Is that definitely the video card?

 Sounds like it.  Just in case it has not been totalled you may want to
 open the case, remove the video card and use a soft brush and vacuum
 cleaner to clean its cooling fan and heatsink.  This may be underneath
 the card and difficult to reach without taking it out.  While you're 
 at
 it, repeat the exercise on the CPU.
   
Or maybe it's the thermal grease paste, it usually doesn't like being
roasted. Replace it, if possible.
   
I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff but I had similar artifacts 
while
overclocking my video RAM so maybe the chips didn't make it.
  
   http://www.arcticsilver.com/
  
   I have used Arctic Silver 5 and have been very happy with it (on an
   overclocked PIII).
 
  It's also quite possible its the PSU if your still using the same one,
  have you replaced it?
 
 Really, the power supply itself could be causing the video problems?
 I am still using the same one with the case open for ventilation.  I'm
 about to order some stuff from New Egg.  Not sure if I should include
 a video card now.
 
 - Grant

try another power supply first if you can, it would not surprise me if
its unstable power from an overheated supply causing the problem 


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?

2007-08-08 Thread Ryan Sims
On 8/8/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 08 August 2007 02:21, Grant wrote:
  My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the
  temperature in the case during a qt compile.  Now I'm seeing all kinds
  of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the system
  was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on it.
 
  Is that definitely the video card?

 Sounds like it.  Just in case it has not been totalled you may want to open
 the case, remove the video card and use a soft brush and vacuum cleaner to
 clean its cooling fan and heatsink.  This may be underneath the card and
 difficult to reach without taking it out.  While you're at it, repeat the
 exercise on the CPU.

I'd be very skeptical about using a vacuum cleaner; they generate
metric crap tons of static.  Canned air may be better.

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?

2007-08-08 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 08 August 2007 16:22, Ryan Sims wrote:
 On 8/8/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Sounds like it.  Just in case it has not been totalled you may want to
  open the case, remove the video card and use a soft brush and vacuum
  cleaner to clean its cooling fan and heatsink.  This may be underneath
  the card and difficult to reach without taking it out.  While you're at
  it, repeat the exercise on the CPU.

 I'd be very skeptical about using a vacuum cleaner; they generate
 metric crap tons of static.  Canned air may be better.

You're right.  I should have said earth yourself on the chassis in the 
process.

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?

2007-08-08 Thread Grant
   My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the
   temperature in the case during a qt compile.  Now I'm seeing all 
   kinds
   of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the 
   system
   was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on 
   it.
  
   Is that definitely the video card?
 
  Sounds like it.  Just in case it has not been totalled you may want 
  to
  open the case, remove the video card and use a soft brush and vacuum
  cleaner to clean its cooling fan and heatsink.  This may be 
  underneath
  the card and difficult to reach without taking it out.  While 
  you're at
  it, repeat the exercise on the CPU.

 Or maybe it's the thermal grease paste, it usually doesn't like being
 roasted. Replace it, if possible.

 I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff but I had similar artifacts 
 while
 overclocking my video RAM so maybe the chips didn't make it.
   
http://www.arcticsilver.com/
   
I have used Arctic Silver 5 and have been very happy with it (on an
overclocked PIII).
  
   It's also quite possible its the PSU if your still using the same one,
   have you replaced it?
 
  Really, the power supply itself could be causing the video problems?
  I am still using the same one with the case open for ventilation.  I'm
  about to order some stuff from New Egg.  Not sure if I should include
  a video card now.
 
  - Grant

 try another power supply first if you can, it would not surprise me if
 its unstable power from an overheated supply causing the problem

Thanks everyone.  Check out the new gear:

power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817171007

video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130067

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103774

This system plays music, movies, and browses the web.

- Grant
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[gentoo-user] {OT} Overheated, which part is damaged?

2007-08-07 Thread Grant
My power supply's fan died and ended up really elevating the
temperature in the case during a qt compile.  Now I'm seeing all kinds
of strange and colorful artifacts on the screen, even after the system
was powered off for several hours with an external fan blowing on it.

Is that definitely the video card?

- Grant
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