Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] private files

2005-12-20 Thread Stuart Howard
I use kgpg which [I presume] is part of the kwallet system.
So on desktop you have handy gui access and remotely because it is
based on gnupg you can use text only access over shh for example :-

gpg --decrypt -o ./securepass.tar.gz.gpg ./foo.tar.gz

hope this helps

stu

ps. In extracting the file it may well create either tmp files or even
the issue of the removal of the clear text file you make with it [ie.
rm after use]. So it may not be the most secure way store passwords. I
guess it depends upon your paranoia level for me it is good enough.


On 20/12/05, Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 On (19/12/05 18:58), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   If you use KDE, KWallet can be used to store random information as well
   as web site passwords etc.
 
  Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   The KDE Wallet system is pretty much ideally suited to storing this
   kind of data.
 
  I wondered what that thing was...
 
  I do run kde but for my needs what ever I end up using will have to be
  easily accessable from console mode or an ssh login too.
 
  Am I right in thinking kwallet requires kde to be running?
 
  If I were to simply create *.tar.gz or rar archive and then gnupgp
  encrypt that file, deleting source  would that be problematic?
 
 What i'm using is a separate encrypted partition made with loop-eas.
 Just copy the key-file open the partition erase key-file first, do backup
 or refresh it then close. Could also be a file but there were some drawbacks.
 If anybody hacks this system they can't open the partition.
  I can see it would not be terribly handy but at the size of data I'm
  talking about it could be scripted and be pretty fast when I needed
  something.  I'm thinking the biggest headache would be deleting the
  source after each visit.
 
  There are tools like emacs that can deal with a tar file transparently
  but then I've introduced another player into the scheme.
 
  What else to people have experience with?
 
 
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 HTH.Rumen





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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] private files

2005-12-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:00:06 +, Stuart Howard wrote:

 I use kgpg which [I presume] is part of the kwallet system.

kgpg and kwallet are separate packages. kgpg is a gpg front-end, kwallet
provides automatic, secure storage of passwords as was as general data.


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programmer.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] private files

2005-12-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:58:57 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am I right in thinking kwallet requires kde to be running?

It does.

 If I were to simply create *.tar.gz or rar archive and then gnupgp
 encrypt that file, deleting source  would that be problematic?

It would work.
 
 I can see it would not be terribly handy but at the size of data I'm
 talking about it could be scripted and be pretty fast when I needed
 something.  I'm thinking the biggest headache would be deleting the
 source after each visit.  

How about an encrypted filesystem, either on a small partition or a loop
device?


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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] private files

2005-12-20 Thread reader
Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]
 
 What i'm using is a separate encrypted partition made with loop-eas.
 Just copy the key-file open the partition erase key-file first, do backup
 or refresh it then close. Could also be a file but there were some drawbacks.
 If anybody hacks this system they can't open the partition.

This looks like what I'm after  thanks

[...]

Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I use kgpg which [I presume] is part of the kwallet system.
 So on desktop you have handy gui access and remotely because it is
 based on gnupg you can use text only access over shh for example :-

 gpg --decrypt -o ./securepass.tar.gz.gpg ./foo.tar.gz

Thanks.. that will be handy for knowing the syntax

[...]

Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How about an encrypted filesystem, either on a small partition or a loop
 device?

Yeah, and Rumen has pointed out something that eases that and its in
portage ... it was misspelled so anyone else wanting it look for:

 sys-fs/loop-aes

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] private files

2005-12-19 Thread reader
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If you use KDE, KWallet can be used to store random information as well
 as web site passwords etc.

Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The KDE Wallet system is pretty much ideally suited to storing this
 kind of data.

I wondered what that thing was...

I do run kde but for my needs what ever I end up using will have to be
easily accessable from console mode or an ssh login too.

Am I right in thinking kwallet requires kde to be running?

If I were to simply create *.tar.gz or rar archive and then gnupgp
encrypt that file, deleting source  would that be problematic?

I can see it would not be terribly handy but at the size of data I'm
talking about it could be scripted and be pretty fast when I needed
something.  I'm thinking the biggest headache would be deleting the
source after each visit.  

There are tools like emacs that can deal with a tar file transparently
but then I've introduced another player into the scheme.

What else to people have experience with?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] private files

2005-12-19 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
On (19/12/05 18:58), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  If you use KDE, KWallet can be used to store random information as well
  as web site passwords etc.
 
 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  The KDE Wallet system is pretty much ideally suited to storing this
  kind of data.
 
 I wondered what that thing was...
 
 I do run kde but for my needs what ever I end up using will have to be
 easily accessable from console mode or an ssh login too.
 
 Am I right in thinking kwallet requires kde to be running?
 
 If I were to simply create *.tar.gz or rar archive and then gnupgp
 encrypt that file, deleting source  would that be problematic?
 
What i'm using is a separate encrypted partition made with loop-eas.
Just copy the key-file open the partition erase key-file first, do backup
or refresh it then close. Could also be a file but there were some drawbacks.
If anybody hacks this system they can't open the partition.
 I can see it would not be terribly handy but at the size of data I'm
 talking about it could be scripted and be pretty fast when I needed
 something.  I'm thinking the biggest headache would be deleting the
 source after each visit.  
 
 There are tools like emacs that can deal with a tar file transparently
 but then I've introduced another player into the scheme.
 
 What else to people have experience with?
 
 
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 gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
 
HTH.Rumen


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