[gentoo-user] Best way to block a given packages?

2005-08-05 Thread Phill MV
After a month worth of holidays, I return to my computer, sync, and type emerge -uva world.

Scrolling through the several screen's worth of stuff I find a few
'redundant' packages, like Mozilla and Epiphany (I use Firefox).
I use gnome, so I've always wounded up with these two packages on my
system. All things considered, compiling these two is a waste of space,
bandwidth, time and electricity. 

How do I block these two from being compiled, despite the fact that they are listed as 'dependancies' in packages I use?


Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to block a given packages?

2005-08-05 Thread John
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Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to block a given packages?

2005-08-05 Thread Tim Igoe

Phill MV wrote:

After a month worth of holidays, I return to my computer, sync, and 
type emerge -uva world.


Scrolling through the several screen's worth of stuff I find a few 
'redundant' packages, like Mozilla and Epiphany (I use Firefox).
I use gnome, so I've always wounded up with these two packages on my 
system. All things considered, compiling these two is a waste of 
space, bandwidth, time and electricity.


How do I block these two from being compiled, despite the fact that 
they are listed as 'dependancies' in packages I use?


Instead of using Gnome, try using the gnome-light package. It comes 
wihtout the large dependancies that the normal gnome does, but you have 
to remmeber to install any extras that you might need  (file-roller, 
games, tools etc)


Tim

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2005-08-05 Thread John
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RE: [gentoo-user] Best way to block a given packages?

2005-08-05 Thread Michael Kintzios
Hi Phill,

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Igoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 05 August 2005 09:49
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to block a given packages?
 
 
 Phill MV wrote:
 
  After a month worth of holidays, I return to my computer, sync, and 
  type emerge -uva world.
 
  Scrolling through the several screen's worth of stuff I find a few 
  'redundant' packages, like Mozilla and Epiphany (I use Firefox).
  I use gnome, so I've always wounded up with these two 
 packages on my 
  system. All things considered, compiling these two is a waste of 
  space, bandwidth, time and electricity.
 
  How do I block these two from being compiled, despite the fact that 
  they are listed as 'dependancies' in packages I use?
 
 Instead of using Gnome, try using the gnome-light package. It comes 
 wihtout the large dependancies that the normal gnome does, 
 but you have 
 to remmeber to install any extras that you might need  (file-roller, 
 games, tools etc)
 
 Tim

 .. or you could try:
==
# mkdir -p /etc/portage/profile
# echo net-www/mozilla  /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
==

Of course the 'mkdir' part is only needed if you don't already have a
/etc/portage/profile directory.  Not sure if you can put
package.provided directly under /etc/portage.  Someone who knows better
the intricacies of the latest portage versions could advise on this.
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2005-08-05 Thread John
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Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to block a given packages?

2005-08-05 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Phill MV wrote:

 After a month worth of holidays, I return to my computer, sync, and type
 emerge -uva world.

 Scrolling through the several screen's worth of stuff I find a few
 'redundant' packages, like Mozilla and Epiphany (I use Firefox).
 I use gnome, so I've always wounded up with these two packages on my system.
 All things considered, compiling these two is a waste of space, bandwidth,
 time and electricity.

 How do I block these two from being compiled, despite the fact that they are
 listed as 'dependancies' in packages I use?

You could put an entry in /etc/portage/package.mask

man portage for more info.


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2005-08-05 Thread John
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Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to block a given packages?

2005-08-05 Thread Phill MV
Exactly what I wanted!
Thanks.On 05/08/05, Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Phill, -Original Message- From: Tim Igoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 August 2005 09:49 To: 
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to block a given packages? Phill MV wrote:  After a month worth of holidays, I return to my computer, sync, and
  type emerge -uva world.   Scrolling through the several screen's worth of stuff I find a few  'redundant' packages, like Mozilla and Epiphany (I use Firefox).  I use gnome, so I've always wounded up with these two
 packages on my  system. All things considered, compiling these two is a waste of  space, bandwidth, time and electricity.   How do I block these two from being compiled, despite the fact that
  they are listed as 'dependancies' in packages I use? Instead of using Gnome, try using the gnome-light package. It comes wihtout the large dependancies that the normal gnome does,
 but you have to remmeber to install any extras that you might need(file-roller, games, tools etc) Tim .. or you could try:==# mkdir -p /etc/portage/profile
# echo net-www/mozilla  /etc/portage/profile/package.provided==Of course the 'mkdir' part is only needed if you don't already have a/etc/portage/profile directory.Not sure if you can put
package.provided directly under /etc/portage.Someone who knows betterthe intricacies of the latest portage versions could advise on this.--Regards,Mick--
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Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to block a given packages?

2005-08-05 Thread Holly Bostick
Phill MV schreef:
 You could put an entry in /etc/portage/package.mask
 
 man portage for more info.
 
 
 To my experience the package requiring it would simply not install.

No, you're right.

The solution to this specific problem (which I also have had, since I
use neither Mozilla nor Evo) is to:

1) unmerge gnome. This will not unmerge any programs (GNOME will still
work), but will remove the metapackage handle which has mozilla and evo
as dependencies (mozilla and evo will become orphaned dependencies, as
you have uninstalled the package that depends on them);

2) unmerge evo, evo dataserver (if you don't want it), epiphany (which
depends on mozilla) and mozilla itself (assuming you have nothing else
that depends on it; most mozilla-dependent individual programs, such as
the Liferea newsreader, now have the capability to depend on firefox
instead), and any other programs installed specifically by the gnome
metapackage that you may not want (sound-juicer, gstreamer, totem-- if
you still want totem, you can recompile it +xine so you can still get
rid of gstreamer if you don't like that backend);

2a) make sure that you have no mozilla or eds USE flags enabled
(afaics, eds must specifically be set as -eds in /etc/make.conf; it's
apparently a new/replacement USE flag which drags in Evo Data Server and
Mozilla, and it appears to be set by default as on for applications like
gaim and gnome-panel, which I discovered when running yesterday's emerge
-uaDtv world). If you have to change any USE flags, hold the emerge
-uaDNtv world till after the next step:

3) emerge gnome-light. This will also not emerge any packages, but will
un-orphan all the gnome desktop packages that are currently installed
(but were orphaned by your uninstall of the gnome metapackage);

4) run emerge -uaDtNv world if you changed any USE flags in step 2a (or
even if you didn't, just to be safe).


This should enable you to update GNOME normally, without having to worry
about evo and/or Mozilla being dragged in every time you try.

Hope this helps.

Holly



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