Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
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Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Schilling: Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks are full of bugs. In special: they come with extremely buggy mkisofs variants and they all have incomplete and broken DVD support (because the working original DVD support code has been completely relaced in the forks). FUD or Fact? This way of asking does not need any comment: You are obviously trying to spread FUD :-( What Do you like to achive with this mail? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Joerg Schilling: Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Schilling: Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks are full of bugs. In special: they come with extremely buggy mkisofs variants and they all have incomplete and broken DVD support (because the working original DVD support code has been completely relaced in the forks). FUD or Fact? This way of asking does not need any comment: You are obviously trying to spread FUD :-( Huh? By asking wether what you state above is true or false I spread FUD? What Do you like to achive with this mail? That you show evidence for your statements (All known forks are full of bugs, ...they come with extremely buggy mkisofs..., etc.). Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Joerg Schilling: Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Schilling: Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks are full of bugs. In special: they come with extremely buggy mkisofs variants and they all have incomplete and broken DVD support (because the working original DVD support code has been completely relaced in the forks). FUD or Fact? This way of asking does not need any comment: You are obviously trying to spread FUD :-( Huh? By asking wether what you state above is true or false I spread FUD? Your question was just an attempt to pass the underlying missinformation that I am not telling the truth. You could save us a lot time if you did your homework and e.g. checked the bug databases from the Linux distributors that currently by default deliver cdrkit instead of cdrtools. If you did this, you would know the exact list of bugs that calse problems Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Joerg Schilling: Your question was just an attempt to pass the underlying missinformation that I am not telling the truth. Interesting conclusion. You could save us a lot time if you did your homework and e.g. checked the bug databases from the Linux distributors that currently by default deliver cdrkit instead of cdrtools. Why is it _my_ homework to proove _your_ statements? If you did this, you would know the exact list of bugs that calse problems But you state that you know that list already, why don't you tell us? Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Schilling: Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks are full of bugs. In special: they come with extremely buggy mkisofs variants and they all have incomplete and broken DVD support (because the working original DVD support code has been completely relaced in the forks). FUD or Fact? Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Continuing to use cdrkit affords me that luxury of not getting involved, so I can carry on blissfully not caring and instead devote my energies to the projects I do care about. Things are not as simple as you seem to believe. You cannot stay off the conflict. If you use cdrkit, you at least indirectly support the people who started the conflict and who still constantly spread wrong information on pretended licensing issues. The conflict will not go away before these people stop spreading incorrect claims. I am working on Free and Open Software much longer than projects like Linux exist. It is a pity to see that people are taken for serious who started using Linux and other OSS projects ~ 5 years ago and who claim that I am against OSS. I did not stop working on cdrtools, but the person who started the conflict stoped working on cdrkit more than a year ago. Look at the bug reports and check what has been done on cdrkit since then. So using cdrkit lso looks like riding a dead horse. Do whatever you like but do not claim that you are not part of the conflict as long as you use cdrkit. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
On Tuesday 24 June 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Continuing to use cdrkit affords me that luxury of not getting involved, so I can carry on blissfully not caring and instead devote my energies to the projects I do care about. Things are not as simple as you seem to believe. Actually, they are exactly that simple. You have a disagreement with person X. I do not have the same disagreement with person X. [snip] Do whatever you like but do not claim that you are not part of the conflict as long as you use cdrkit. Jörg, you appear to be making a fundamental error of assumption. It looks like you consider that simply because you think this matter important (and in your life it probably IS important), that therefore it must be important in mine. This is not true. In my life, your fight with the cdrkit people is very similar to the fights my 11 year old son and 6 year old stepdaughter have. They keep trying to get me to take sides and utterly and completely fail to comprehend why I do not do so. I recommend you continue to do whatever makes you happy. If that includes a dispute with a fork of your code, so be it. But stop trying to tell me that I am somehow involved. I am not. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools? CDDL licensing?
On 23 Jun 2008, at 19:54, Joerg Schilling wrote: ... The license of the original cdrtools has been examined by specialized lawyers and these lawyers did not see any license problem in the original software. A bit of Googling lead me to a couple of articles which appear to indicate you chose to migrate your software from the GPL to the CDDL (or to a CDDL-alike license). http://lwn.net/Articles/195167/ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377109 Since I guess there's no point in hoping this discussion will simply go away, might I enquire out of curiosity why you decided to do this? Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
el 2008-06-23 a las 14:58 Joerg Schilling escribió: Cdrecord is known to work with all drives and media. Other software may have problems with some drives or media. that's exactly my personal experience. i won't comment about license issues, because although i always try to support free software i have to admit that i understand little or nothing about legal issues. but let me share my personal experience: last year i bought a shiny brand new laptop. i was very happy with it until i tried to record cds or dvds. about 80% of my attempts ended in the trash can. at first i thought i had bought a defective lot of media, but when the same happened with different types of media i began to think that my drive was either defective or not well supported by linux. both alternatives were quite depressing... after days of googling trying to find a solution, somehow i realized that gentoo had installed a fake cdrecord instead of the real one. i don't know how or why this happened. perhaps it was my fault but it sure was not my intention. searching the gentoo site i found something about license problems and how they had decided to replace it with a different package and you could not even realize it. i erased the ersatz, emerged the original cdrecord, and never had a problem again. my drive was perfectly sane after all, and the media i bought was just fine. sorry for the rant, but i'm still annoyed by that incident. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jörg, you appear to be making a fundamental error of assumption. It looks like you consider that simply because you think this matter important (and in your life it probably IS important), that therefore it must be important in mine. This is not true. In my life, your fight with the cdrkit people is very similar to the fights my 11 year old son and 6 year old stepdaughter have. They keep trying to get me to take sides and utterly and completely fail to comprehend why I do not do so. If this was really not important to you, why do you send long replies? I am trying to ignore the attacks from the people behind cdrkit and I hope that people realize that progress is only in the official project. I however need to inform people correctly when I see incorrect claims on my projects. If you like to live with the big number of bugs in the fork, go ahead, but you only harm yourself. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Joerg Schilling ha scritto: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jörg, you appear to be making a fundamental error of assumption. It looks like you consider that simply because you think this matter important (and in your life it probably IS important), that therefore it must be important in mine. This is not true. In my life, your fight with the cdrkit people is very similar to the fights my 11 year old son and 6 year old stepdaughter have. They keep trying to get me to take sides and utterly and completely fail to comprehend why I do not do so. If this was really not important to you, why do you send long replies? Because we want to politely and cheerfully let you understand that this fuss about cdrtools/cdrkit is of interest mostly (if not only) for you here, and that keeping on this is just polluting the mailing list. And pollution on the mailing list is something, instead, we care about. If cdrkit is slowly rotting, you'll be sure people will start notice it and (a)fix cdrkit (b)migrate back to cdrtools. Code speaks for itself. If it's significantly better, people will use it. So why bother? Just wait for the corpse of your enemy floating on the river. :) I am trying to ignore the attacks from the people behind cdrkit and I hope that people realize that progress is only in the official project. I however need to inform people correctly when I see incorrect claims on my projects. Well, fine, but please recognize that it's better you stop there. If you like to live with the big number of bugs in the fork, go ahead, but you only harm yourself. Probably you are right. Actually I use your cdrecord (just checked now), and I feel happy with it. And I am more than happy than you are working on it. And I thank you a lot, a lot, a lot. But again, Joerg, we just want to record our cds. Please, do not involve us on license catfights on a regular basis. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Hi, I want to burn CD/DVD under Gentoo, I have installed Xfce. So, can anybody recommend some CD/DVD burning tools, which is better if does not depend Gnome or KDE? Thanks in advanced! -- wcw
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Chuanwen Wu: I want to burn CD/DVD under Gentoo, I have installed Xfce. So, can anybody recommend some CD/DVD burning tools, which is better if does not depend Gnome or KDE? dvd+rw-tools Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
On Monday 23 June 2008, Chuanwen Wu wrote: Hi, I want to burn CD/DVD under Gentoo, I have installed Xfce. So, can anybody recommend some CD/DVD burning tools, which is better if does not depend Gnome or KDE? Have a look in $PORTDIR/app-cdr and $PORTDIR/xfce-extra Lots of stuff there to play with from cdrdao to xfburn -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
080623 Chuanwen Wu wrote: I want to burn CD/DVD under Gentoo, I have installed Xfce. can anybody recommend some CD/DVD burning tools, which is better if does not depend Gnome or KDE? I still use the trusty old 'xcdroast' for CDs. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Chuanwen Wu: I want to burn CD/DVD under Gentoo, I have installed Xfce. So, can anybody recommend some CD/DVD burning tools, which is better if does not depend Gnome or KDE? dvd+rw-tools ...Does not support CDs. For burning data CDs and DVDs, you in addition need mkisofs anyway. Mkisofs is part of the cdrtools package which also includes cdrecord. Cdrecord supports CDs, DVDs and BluRay media. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 23 June 2008, Chuanwen Wu wrote: Hi, I want to burn CD/DVD under Gentoo, I have installed Xfce. So, can anybody recommend some CD/DVD burning tools, which is better if does not depend Gnome or KDE? Have a look in $PORTDIR/app-cdr and $PORTDIR/xfce-extra Lots of stuff there to play with from cdrdao to xfburn cdrdao has not been enhanced since many years now. BTW: Could you tell me a feature from cdrdao which you really use and that is not supported by cdrecorde? xfburn is based on non-portable (linux only) code. If you ever like to use a different OS, you should know that you will not find this software. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Joerg Schilling: Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dvd+rw-tools ...Does not support CDs. But has: RDEPEND=virtual/cdrtools which will provide the missing parts. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [23.06.08 11:09]: xfburn is based on non-portable (linux only) code. If you ever like to use a different OS, you should know that you will not find this software. Well, if he is asking such a question, I doubt he will switch OS any soon. But, I think, Your crusade continues... Jörg so long Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpqYhsxAFQdk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
On Monday 23 June 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 23 June 2008, Chuanwen Wu wrote: Hi, I want to burn CD/DVD under Gentoo, I have installed Xfce. So, can anybody recommend some CD/DVD burning tools, which is better if does not depend Gnome or KDE? Have a look in $PORTDIR/app-cdr and $PORTDIR/xfce-extra Lots of stuff there to play with from cdrdao to xfburn cdrdao has not been enhanced since many years now. BTW: Could you tell me a feature from cdrdao which you really use and that is not supported by cdrecorde? he just gave a range and cdrdao comes in the alphabetical order before cdrecord. xfburn is based on non-portable (linux only) code. If you ever like to use a different OS, you should know that you will not find this software. yeah, but this is a gentoo list and the user is using xfce. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdrdao has not been enhanced since many years now. BTW: Could you tell me a feature from cdrdao which you really use and that is not supported by cdrecorde? he just gave a range and cdrdao comes in the alphabetical order before cdrecord. Mmmm, should this be an answer to my question? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [23.06.08 12:09]: Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: Could you tell me a feature from cdrdao which you really use and that is not supported by cdrecorde? he just gave a range and cdrdao comes in the alphabetical order before cdrecord. Mmmm, should this be an answer to my question? Counter question: What feature of cdrecord do I need, that would justify the installation? Oh wait, I have /usr/bin/cdrecord, it's a symlink to wodim. Is my system broken? Jörg Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpfakgdGqiUS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
On Monday 23 June 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdrdao has not been enhanced since many years now. BTW: Could you tell me a feature from cdrdao which you really use and that is not supported by cdrecorde? he just gave a range and cdrdao comes in the alphabetical order before cdrecord. Mmmm, should this be an answer to my question? Volker's answer is correct, but not obviously so. I simply ran ls on the directory /var/portage/app-cdr and listed two well-known packages that showed up. The OP is looking for Xfce software, I figured he should look for himself and told him where to look. To answer your question directly: My burning needs are very simple - cdrecord from cdrkit and k3b do everything I've ever needed and suit me just fine. Eg, I don't remember exactly when was the last time I burned a DVD but I do know I've never done it on any of my personal machines. I use cdrkit because I'm sick of listening to eternal bickering about licensing issues. So I use the project whose license, and interpretation of the license, seemed to me to be the project that would make the pedantry just go away and not feature in my life. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
On Monday 23 June 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdrdao has not been enhanced since many years now. BTW: Could you tell me a feature from cdrdao which you really use and that is not supported by cdrecorde? he just gave a range and cdrdao comes in the alphabetical order before cdrecord. Mmmm, should this be an answer to my question? in a way, yes. He gave a range and you went 'ballistic' on his mention of cdrdao. There was no recommendation or anything else and you demanded a list of features. Why should he or anybody do so? If he said 'use cdrdao' then your question would be rightly asked. But he didn't. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Alan McKinnon: The OP is looking for Xfce software Is he? He is _using_ XFCE and is _looking_ for something that doesn't depend on Gnome or KDE. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:38:07 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Is he? He is _using_ XFCE and is _looking_ for something that doesn't depend on Gnome or KDE. More importantly, he is looking for a recommendation, not a list of what's available, which I'm sure he could get for himself. Unless the OP is short on resources, I'd say install K3b, kdelibs may use a little drive space but it won't kill any kittens. If resources are that short, use virtual/cdrecord and dvd+rw-tools. -- Neil Bothwick C:\DOS\SYSTEM\OS2\UTILITIES\DOCS\HELP\WHERE\THE\F$#%\AM\I??? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Thank all you guys! I will try dvd+rw-tools since it support both DVD and CD. I have ever tried xfburn, but it seemed that it still had some problem s: it couldn't detected my TSSTcorp DVD driver and I still heard that it couldn't burning DVD yet. I have Windows, and of course I can do buring there, but I just feel sick to reboot into Windows just for burning a CD/DVD. -- wcw -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank all you guys! I will try dvd+rw-tools since it support both DVD and CD. This is a missunderstanding: cdrecord supports both CDs and DVDs. dvd+rw-tools only supports DVDs Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank all you guys! I will try dvd+rw-tools since it support both DVD and CD. This is a missunderstanding: cdrecord supports both CDs and DVDs. Where is cdrecord? I can't see it in the portage. dvd+rw-tools only supports DVDs From here http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ and what Dirk said, it depend on cdrtools, so it can burning CDs now. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- wcw
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Am Montag, 23. Juni 2008 schrieb ext Chuanwen Wu: Where is cdrecord? I can't see it in the portage. It's provided by virtual/cdrtools (either cdrtools or cdrkit). Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdrecord supports both CDs and DVDs. Where is cdrecord? I can't see it in the portage. The official cdredcord source is here: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ Cdrecord started in January 1996 (12.5 years ago), cdrcord added DVD support in February 1998 (10 years ago) cdrecod addded Blu Ray support in summer 2007. I know that cdrecord is on portage, but I don't know where. Be careful not to use forks but only official code. All known forks are full of bugs. In special: they come with extremely buggy mkisofs variants and they all have incomplete and broken DVD support (because the working original DVD support code has been completely relaced in the forks). Cdrecord is known to work with all drives and media. Other software may have problems with some drives or media. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
On Monday 23 June 2008, Chuanwen Wu wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank all you guys! I will try dvd+rw-tools since it support both DVD and CD. This is a missunderstanding: cdrecord supports both CDs and DVDs. Where is cdrecord? I can't see it in the portage. app-cdr/cdrtools Latest version available: 2.01.01_alpha41 Latest version installed: 2.01.01_alpha40 Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest] Homepage:http://cdrecord.berlios.de/ Description: A set of tools for CD/DVD reading and recording, including cdrecord License: GPL-2 LGPL-2.1 CDDL-Schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use cdrkit because I'm sick of listening to eternal bickering about licensing issues. So I use the project whose license, and interpretation of the license, seemed to me to be the project that would make the pedantry just go away and not feature in my life. I am not sure whether you really intend to say this and if you did understand thing correctly. The license of the original cdrtools has been examined by specialized lawyers and these lawyers did not see any license problem in the original software. The license of the fork cdrkit has not been verified by experts. If you follow the claims from the people behind cdrkit on how the GPL has to be interpreted for cdrtools, then cdrkit would be illegal. This is because these people claim that GPLd software needs to be build with a GPLd build system and this build system needs to be delivered with the source. The cdrkit project however uses a 4 clause BSD build sytstem that is not delivered together with the source My question to you would be: Do you like to support software like cdrkit that is published by people who attack other OSS projects? If you like to get rid of the license debates, you need to help to prevent the license attacks done by the people behind cdrkit. I am just a victim of these attacks and the Linux users who are forced to live with 50 unfixed bugs in the fork are also victims of this attack. Check the bug data bases from the Linux distributors who publish cdrkit instead of cdrtools and you will see that many serious bugs exist in the fork since more than a year and nobody is interested to fix the bugs. The original cdrtools software does not have known bugs. So why do you like use software with known bugs? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
Joerg Schilling ha scritto: Do you like to support software like cdrkit that is published by people who attack other OSS projects? If you like to get rid of the license debates, you need to help to prevent the license attacks done by the people behind cdrkit. I am just a victim of these attacks and the Linux users who are forced to live with 50 unfixed bugs in the fork are also victims of this attack. Check the bug data bases from the Linux distributors who publish cdrkit instead of cdrtools and you will see that many serious bugs exist in the fork since more than a year and nobody is interested to fix the bugs. The original cdrtools software does not have known bugs. So why do you like use software with known bugs? Joerg, guys, please: not this pointless flame again. Please. Please. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg, guys, please: not this pointless flame again. Please. Please. If you like to help me against flame wars, you are of course welcome! Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD/DVD burning tools?
On Monday 23 June 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: My question to you would be: Do you like to support software like cdrkit that is published by people who attack other OSS projects? Joerg, Let me respond with a very close analogy, because this is not a yes/no answer. I ride a great big stomping motorcycle. It's an adrenaline rush, just oozing vast amounts of power and torque. As motorcycles go, this is one of the better ones and there isn't a car on the road that comes close to this thing's ability to zoom away from traffic light into clear space. I know someone else who rides a cheap, piece of crap, Chinese 125cc scooter. Maybe it's not crap, but that is my opinion of it. So I had a long conversation with this scooter owner extolling the virtues of big bikes, the increased safety of a more powerful engine and the thrill of 984cc of mind-blowing torque. All this fell on deaf ears. The answer I got was dude, I'm happy you have the machine you want. I just want to get to work cheaply and beat the traffic. By the way, your solution costs 10 times what mine does to buy... I had no answer to that - I was up against a don't care output and had mistakenly assumed it would of course be a Boolean. See, CD software is close to your heart. It's not even remotely close to mine. At best, it's a nice to have. I don't care about the 50 bugs you so obviously care deeply about - I have never triggered them, they do not impact on my life in any significant way. So I simply do not care about that and am not likely to care much any time soon. Continuing to use cdrkit affords me that luxury of not getting involved, so I can carry on blissfully not caring and instead devote my energies to the projects I do care about. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
