Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password
* On Sun May-08-2005 at 03:27:41 PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson said: I've followed the directions in the handbook and installed from a Knoppix boot. I've made it all the way to section 10.d (reboot). However upon reboot, I'm presented with a login prompt. I log in as root and enter the password I set in section 8.c but it tells me 'login incorrect'. I boot Knoppix again, perform the required steps and enter my chroot environment. I repeat section 8.c and reset the password. I also move ahead to section 11 and create a user account for myself, passing along '-G wheel', so I can su if necessary. I reboot again back to Gentoo but get the same problem when logging on as root. I can log on with the new user account I've created but 'su' does not work (can't setguid), probably due to the same password issue I have when logging on as root. Any idea? I'm almost there. My only stab in the dark here: In /etc/fstab do you have the nosuid option enabled on any of your filesystems? -- Sami Samhuri pgpi502HPmYTa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password -- Almost SOLVED!
On Sun, 08 May 2005 17:53:26 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: OK, I've done some more reading and found that the reason I couldn't use 'su' as myself was because /bin/su didn't have the setuid bit set. So in all my fooling around, I have file ownership and modes screwed up from the default. What user:group should own all (or most) of the files after a install? What files should be setuid? Is there a list somewhere? Or will some incantation of 'emerge' fix all of this for me? # qpkg -f /bin/su sys-apps/shadow So emerge --oneshot shadow should restore things to their defaults. -- Neil Bothwick Multitasking?? But I only have one PC! pgpglMQYH6GNy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password -- SOLVED!!!
On 5/9/2005 4:17 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 08 May 2005 17:53:26 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: OK, I've done some more reading and found that the reason I couldn't use 'su' as myself was because /bin/su didn't have the setuid bit set. So in all my fooling around, I have file ownership and modes screwed up from the default. What user:group should own all (or most) of the files after a install? What files should be setuid? Is there a list somewhere? Or will some incantation of 'emerge' fix all of this for me? # qpkg -f /bin/su sys-apps/shadow So emerge --oneshot shadow should restore things to their defaults. Setting the setuid bit on /bin/su and /bin/login fixed my login problems. I'm tried this suggestion and it worked. However I don't quite understand exactly what the oneshot option does. The man page says: Emerge as normal, but do not add the packages to the world profile for later updating. So it rebuilds it but we don't add it to the world profile because it's part of the base system and we wouldn't want it upgraded unless we rebuilt everything else? I'm brand spankin' new to both Linux and Gentoo but I have experience with FreeBSD. In FreeBSD, I know one doesn't want to get his kernel and world out of sync. Is the idea behind oneshot similar to this? A big THANK YOU to all for helping this noob get up to speed. Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password -- SOLVED!!!
On Mon, 09 May 2005 10:20:23 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: So emerge --oneshot shadow should restore things to their defaults. Setting the setuid bit on /bin/su and /bin/login fixed my login problems. I'm tried this suggestion and it worked. However I don't quite understand exactly what the oneshot option does. The man page says: Emerge as normal, but do not add the packages to the world profile for later updating. That's it. When you emerge a package, the package is added to your world file, but any dependencies that are emerged are not. So the world file contains only those packages that you explicitly want, not their dependencies. Whenever I re-emerge anything I always use --oneshot, on the basis that if it belongs in world, it is already there and if it doesn't, I don't want to spoil things by adding it now. shadow is a clear example of this, as it is a package you would never install manually (in fact it is part of system). -- Neil Bothwick Groucho Borg: That's the silliest thing I ever assimilated... pgpxyNwHCWADn.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password
I've followed the directions in the handbook and installed from a Knoppix boot. I've made it all the way to section 10.d (reboot). However upon reboot, I'm presented with a login prompt. I log in as root and enter the password I set in section 8.c but it tells me 'login incorrect'. I boot Knoppix again, perform the required steps and enter my chroot environment. I repeat section 8.c and reset the password. I also move ahead to section 11 and create a user account for myself, passing along '-G wheel', so I can su if necessary. I reboot again back to Gentoo but get the same problem when logging on as root. I can log on with the new user account I've created but 'su' does not work (can't setguid), probably due to the same password issue I have when logging on as root. Any idea? I'm almost there. Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password
On 5/8/2005 4:20 PM Mike Williams wrote: On Monday 09 May 2005 00:09, Drew Tomlinson wrote: I thought I did that with the '-G wheel' option I passed to useradd. I also think that if I'm not part of the wheel group, I wouldn't even have the opportunity to enter a password after doing 'su'. How can I check to be sure I'm part of the wheel group? You will still get asked. id OK, thanks. I have confirmed that I'm part of the 'wheel' group with both the 'id' and 'groups' command, thus my problems must be from not setting the initial root password properly. So any ideas on what I'm missing setting the root password in 8.c of the handbook? From the chrooted environment as 'root' I issued 'passwd' and then typed in my new password. I have also tried 'passwd root' with the same effect. Do I need to do something different since I booted with Knoppix? Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password
On 5/8/2005 4:42 PM Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 5/8/2005 4:20 PM Mike Williams wrote: On Monday 09 May 2005 00:09, Drew Tomlinson wrote: I thought I did that with the '-G wheel' option I passed to useradd. I also think that if I'm not part of the wheel group, I wouldn't even have the opportunity to enter a password after doing 'su'. How can I check to be sure I'm part of the wheel group? You will still get asked. id OK, thanks. I have confirmed that I'm part of the 'wheel' group with both the 'id' and 'groups' command, thus my problems must be from not setting the initial root password properly. So any ideas on what I'm missing setting the root password in 8.c of the handbook? From the chrooted environment as 'root' I issued 'passwd' and then typed in my new password. I have also tried 'passwd root' with the same effect. Do I need to do something different since I booted with Knoppix? One more update. I found out how to boot in single user mode by adding 'single' to the end of the kernel line in grub. Booted to single user mode and issued 'passwd' command from there. It still doesn't work. My session goes like this: sh-2.05b# passwd New UNIX password: BAD PASSWORD: it is based on a dictionary word. Retype new UNIX password: passwd: password updated successfully I get the 'BAD PASSWORD' message no matter what password I use. I tried this one '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' which I'm sure is not in the dictionary but still got that message. I don't know if that provides any clues or not. To test the various new passwords, I used this string of commands after each attempt to set root's password: sh-2.05b# su user su(pam_unix)[1911]: session opened for user user by (uid=0) bash-2.05b$ su Password: setgid: Operation not permitted bash-2.05b$ I repeated to two scenarios above with several different passwords. All attempts failed. So I have a bright shiny new system that I'd just love to be able to get in to. :) Any suggestions? Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password
If you're worried about the bad password message ignore it. Mine always give that but if you notice it updates your password anyway. Try su - and see what happens. On Sun, 8 May 2005, Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 5/8/2005 4:42 PM Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 5/8/2005 4:20 PM Mike Williams wrote: On Monday 09 May 2005 00:09, Drew Tomlinson wrote: I thought I did that with the '-G wheel' option I passed to useradd. 'single' to the end of the kernel line in grub. Booted to single user mode and issued 'passwd' command from there. It still doesn't work. My session goes like this: sh-2.05b# passwd New UNIX password: BAD PASSWORD: it is based on a dictionary word. Retype new UNIX password: passwd: password updated successfully I get the 'BAD PASSWORD' message no matter what password I use. I tried this one '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' which I'm sure is not in the dictionary but still got that message. I don't know if that provides any clues or not. To test the various new passwords, I used this string of commands after each attempt to set root's password: sh-2.05b# su user su(pam_unix)[1911]: session opened for user user by (uid=0) bash-2.05b$ su Password: setgid: Operation not permitted bash-2.05b$ I repeated to two scenarios above with several different passwords. All attempts failed. So I have a bright shiny new system that I'd just love to be able to get in to. :) Any suggestions? Thanks, Drew -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password -- Almost SOLVED!
On 5/8/2005 5:29 PM Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 5/8/2005 4:42 PM Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 5/8/2005 4:20 PM Mike Williams wrote: On Monday 09 May 2005 00:09, Drew Tomlinson wrote: I thought I did that with the '-G wheel' option I passed to useradd. I also think that if I'm not part of the wheel group, I wouldn't even have the opportunity to enter a password after doing 'su'. How can I check to be sure I'm part of the wheel group? You will still get asked. id OK, thanks. I have confirmed that I'm part of the 'wheel' group with both the 'id' and 'groups' command, thus my problems must be from not setting the initial root password properly. So any ideas on what I'm missing setting the root password in 8.c of the handbook? From the chrooted environment as 'root' I issued 'passwd' and then typed in my new password. I have also tried 'passwd root' with the same effect. Do I need to do something different since I booted with Knoppix? One more update. I found out how to boot in single user mode by adding 'single' to the end of the kernel line in grub. Booted to single user mode and issued 'passwd' command from there. It still doesn't work. My session goes like this: sh-2.05b# passwd New UNIX password: BAD PASSWORD: it is based on a dictionary word. Retype new UNIX password: passwd: password updated successfully I get the 'BAD PASSWORD' message no matter what password I use. I tried this one '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' which I'm sure is not in the dictionary but still got that message. I don't know if that provides any clues or not. To test the various new passwords, I used this string of commands after each attempt to set root's password: sh-2.05b# su user su(pam_unix)[1911]: session opened for user user by (uid=0) bash-2.05b$ su Password: setgid: Operation not permitted bash-2.05b$ I repeated to two scenarios above with several different passwords. All attempts failed. So I have a bright shiny new system that I'd just love to be able to get in to. :) Any suggestions? OK, I've done some more reading and found that the reason I couldn't use 'su' as myself was because /bin/su didn't have the setuid bit set. So in all my fooling around, I have file ownership and modes screwed up from the default. What user:group should own all (or most) of the files after a install? What files should be setuid? Is there a list somewhere? Or will some incantation of 'emerge' fix all of this for me? Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] First Install - Help Setting Root Password
On 5/9/05, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip To test the various new passwords, I used this string of commands after each attempt to set root's password: sh-2.05b# su user su(pam_unix)[1911]: session opened for user user by (uid=0) bash-2.05b$ su Password: setgid: Operation not permitted Because of the setgid error I don't think it is a password problem. The normal output on wrong passwords are: # su Password: su: Authentication failure Sorry. Something else (pam?) is not allowing you to become root. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
