Re: [gentoo-user] Intel GM965

2009-10-16 Thread David 

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

On Donnerstag 15 Oktober 2009, Justin wrote:

Arnau Bria wrote:
Hi all,


Anyone did success on configuring Intel GM965/GL960 on xorg 1.6? I have
an acer TravelMate 5720 ...



You also can remove all InputDevice sections as those are controlled
by hal.



he should let them in, but he can remove all FontPath and modules entries. And 
yes, 'vesa' has to be changed.





Here is mine [1] , just for information I can go without an xorg.conf 
and X will still start fine, just I have found I am missing some fonts.


To see this working in action the Gentoo Ten Live DVD 10.1 [2] works 
with a blank xorg.conf on my T61 with X3100 intel graphics.


[1] http://dwabbott.com/gentoo-ten/intel_fix/xorg.conf
[2] http://linuxcrazy.com/?q=node/77

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[gentoo-user] Intel GM965

2009-10-15 Thread Arnau Bria 
Hi all,

Anyone did success on configuring Intel GM965/GL960 on xorg 1.6? I have an acer 
TravelMate 5720 ...

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)

on xorg-sever 1.6.3.901-r2:

I] x11-base/xorg-server
 Available versions:  1.5.3-r6 ~1.5.3-r7 1.6.3.901-r2 ~1.6.4 ~1.6.5 
[M]~1.7.0.901 {3dfx debug dmx hal input_devices_acecad input_devices_aiptek 
input_devices_citron input_devices_elographics input_devices_evdev 
input_devices_fpit input_devices_hyperpen input_devices_joystick 
input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse input_devices_mutouch 
input_devices_penmount input_devices_synaptics input_devices_tslib 
input_devices_virtualbox input_devices_vmmouse input_devices_void 
input_devices_wacom ipv6 kdrive minimal nptl sdl tslib video_cards_apm 
video_cards_ark video_cards_ast video_cards_chips video_cards_cirrus 
video_cards_dummy video_cards_epson video_cards_fbdev video_cards_fglrx 
video_cards_geode video_cards_glint video_cards_i128 video_cards_i740 
video_cards_impact video_cards_imstt video_cards_intel video_cards_mach64 
video_cards_mga video_cards_neomagic video_cards_newport video_cards_nv 
video_cards_nvidia video_cards_r128 video_cards_radeon video_cards_radeonhd 
video_ca
 rds_rendition video_cards_s3 video_cards_s3virge video_cards_savage 
video_cards_siliconmotion video_cards_sis video_cards_sisusb video_cards_sunbw2 
video_cards_suncg14 video_cards_suncg3 video_cards_suncg6 video_cards_sunffb 
video_cards_sunleo video_cards_suntcx video_cards_tdfx video_cards_tga 
video_cards_trident video_cards_tseng video_cards_v4l video_cards_vermilion 
video_cards_vesa video_cards_via video_cards_virtualbox video_cards_vmware 
video_cards_voodoo video_cards_xgi xorg}
 Installed versions:  1.6.3.901-r2(20:56:44 14/10/09)(hal nptl xorg -debug 
-dmx -ipv6 -kdrive -minimal -sdl -tslib)


I've followed:
http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Intel_GMA

but when I try to start X, my system hangs...

[I] x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
 Available versions:  ~2.4.3 ~2.5.1-r1 2.6.3-r1 ~2.7.1 ~2.7.99.902-r1 
~2.8.0 2.8.1 ~2.9.0 {debug dri}
 Installed versions:  2.8.1(19:12:22 15/10/09)(dri -debug)
 Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
 Description: X.Org driver for Intel cards

cat /etc/make.conf
USE=acpi alsa -apache2 apm -arts aspell -audiofile -berkdb cdparanoia cdr 
clamav -cli ctype dbus divx dri dvd dvdr -eds -emboss -esd -fam firefox 
-foomaticdb -fortran gif -gnome gtk gtk2 hal hddtemp -idn imap -ipv6 -isdnlog 
jpeg jpeg2k jpg -kde -kerberos -lcms -ldap -libg++ -mng mp3 mpeg mpeg2 mplayer 
-mysql ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin opengl -oss -pam pcre pdf -php -pppd 
-qt4 quicktime -reflection sasl -seamonkey session  spell sqlite sse2 ssl 
startup-notification -static svg symlink tcltk thunar unicode -qt3 userlocales 
vcd -vhost win32codecs X xface  xml xml2 -xmms xscreensaver xfce spamassassin
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe
CXXFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe
SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error log
MAKEOPTS=-j3
INPUT_DEVICES=evdev mouse keyboard
VIDEO_CARDS=vesa intel i810
LINGUAS=es en


xorg.conf:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
ModulePath   /usr/lib/xorg/modules
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/OTF
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  glx
Load  xtrap
Load  record
Load  extmod
Load  dbe
Load  synaptics
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  synaptics
EndSection



Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  vesa
VendorName  Intel Corporation
BoardName   Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
BusID   PCI:0:2:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection Display

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel GM965

2009-10-15 Thread Justin 
Arnau Bria wrote:
Hi all,
 
 Anyone did success on configuring Intel GM965/GL960 on xorg 1.6? I have an 
 acer TravelMate 5720 ...
 
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 
 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 
 on xorg-sever 1.6.3.901-r2:
 
 I] x11-base/xorg-server
  Available versions:  1.5.3-r6 ~1.5.3-r7 1.6.3.901-r2 ~1.6.4 ~1.6.5 
 [M]~1.7.0.901 {3dfx debug dmx hal input_devices_acecad input_devices_aiptek 
 input_devices_citron input_devices_elographics input_devices_evdev 
 input_devices_fpit input_devices_hyperpen input_devices_joystick 
 input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse input_devices_mutouch 
 input_devices_penmount input_devices_synaptics input_devices_tslib 
 input_devices_virtualbox input_devices_vmmouse input_devices_void 
 input_devices_wacom ipv6 kdrive minimal nptl sdl tslib video_cards_apm 
 video_cards_ark video_cards_ast video_cards_chips video_cards_cirrus 
 video_cards_dummy video_cards_epson video_cards_fbdev video_cards_fglrx 
 video_cards_geode video_cards_glint video_cards_i128 video_cards_i740 
 video_cards_impact video_cards_imstt video_cards_intel video_cards_mach64 
 video_cards_mga video_cards_neomagic video_cards_newport video_cards_nv 
 video_cards_nvidia video_cards_r128 video_cards_radeon video_cards_radeonhd 
 video_
ca
  rds_rendition video_cards_s3 video_cards_s3virge video_cards_savage 
 video_cards_siliconmotion video_cards_sis video_cards_sisusb 
 video_cards_sunbw2 video_cards_suncg14 video_cards_suncg3 video_cards_suncg6 
 video_cards_sunffb video_cards_sunleo video_cards_suntcx video_cards_tdfx 
 video_cards_tga video_cards_trident video_cards_tseng video_cards_v4l 
 video_cards_vermilion video_cards_vesa video_cards_via video_cards_virtualbox 
 video_cards_vmware video_cards_voodoo video_cards_xgi xorg}
  Installed versions:  1.6.3.901-r2(20:56:44 14/10/09)(hal nptl xorg 
 -debug -dmx -ipv6 -kdrive -minimal -sdl -tslib)
 
 
 I've followed:
 http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Intel_GMA
 
 but when I try to start X, my system hangs...
 
 [I] x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
  Available versions:  ~2.4.3 ~2.5.1-r1 2.6.3-r1 ~2.7.1 ~2.7.99.902-r1 
 ~2.8.0 2.8.1 ~2.9.0 {debug dri}
  Installed versions:  2.8.1(19:12:22 15/10/09)(dri -debug)
  Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
  Description: X.Org driver for Intel cards
 
 cat /etc/make.conf
 USE=acpi alsa -apache2 apm -arts aspell -audiofile -berkdb cdparanoia cdr 
 clamav -cli ctype dbus divx dri dvd dvdr -eds -emboss -esd -fam firefox 
 -foomaticdb -fortran gif -gnome gtk gtk2 hal hddtemp -idn imap -ipv6 -isdnlog 
 jpeg jpeg2k jpg -kde -kerberos -lcms -ldap -libg++ -mng mp3 mpeg mpeg2 
 mplayer -mysql ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin opengl -oss -pam pcre pdf 
 -php -pppd -qt4 quicktime -reflection sasl -seamonkey session  spell sqlite 
 sse2 ssl startup-notification -static svg symlink tcltk thunar unicode -qt3 
 userlocales vcd -vhost win32codecs X xface  xml xml2 -xmms xscreensaver xfce 
 spamassassin
 CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 CFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe
 CXXFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe
 SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
 PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error log
 MAKEOPTS=-j3
 INPUT_DEVICES=evdev mouse keyboard
 VIDEO_CARDS=vesa intel i810
 LINGUAS=es en
 
 
 xorg.conf:
 
 Section ServerLayout
   Identifier X.org Configured
   Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
   InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
   InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
 EndSection
 
 Section Files
   ModulePath   /usr/lib/xorg/modules
   FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/
   FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/
   FontPath /usr/share/fonts/OTF
   FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/
   FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/
   FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
 EndSection
 
 Section Module
   Load  glx
   Load  xtrap
   Load  record
   Load  extmod
   Load  dbe
   Load  synaptics
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Keyboard0
   Driver  kbd
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Mouse0
   Driver  synaptics
 EndSection
 
 
 
 Section Monitor
   Identifier   Monitor0
   VendorName   Monitor Vendor
   ModelNameMonitor Model
 EndSection
 
 Section Device
   Identifier  Card0
   Driver  vesa


Should be intel

You also can remove all InputDevice sections as those are controlled
by hal.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel GM965

2009-10-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann 
On Donnerstag 15 Oktober 2009, Justin wrote:
 Arnau Bria wrote:
 Hi all,
 
  Anyone did success on configuring Intel GM965/GL960 on xorg 1.6? I have
  an acer TravelMate 5720 ...
 
  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960
  Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
 
  on xorg-sever 1.6.3.901-r2:
 
  I] x11-base/xorg-server
   Available versions:  1.5.3-r6 ~1.5.3-r7 1.6.3.901-r2 ~1.6.4 ~1.6.5
  [M]~1.7.0.901 {3dfx debug dmx hal input_devices_acecad
  input_devices_aiptek input_devices_citron input_devices_elographics
  input_devices_evdev input_devices_fpit input_devices_hyperpen
  input_devices_joystick input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse
  input_devices_mutouch input_devices_penmount input_devices_synaptics
  input_devices_tslib input_devices_virtualbox input_devices_vmmouse
  input_devices_void input_devices_wacom ipv6 kdrive minimal nptl sdl tslib
  video_cards_apm video_cards_ark video_cards_ast video_cards_chips
  video_cards_cirrus video_cards_dummy video_cards_epson video_cards_fbdev
  video_cards_fglrx video_cards_geode video_cards_glint video_cards_i128
  video_cards_i740 video_cards_impact video_cards_imstt video_cards_intel
  video_cards_mach64 video_cards_mga video_cards_neomagic
  video_cards_newport video_cards_nv video_cards_nvidia video_cards_r128
  video_cards_radeon video_cards_radeonhd video_
 
 ca
 
   rds_rendition video_cards_s3 video_cards_s3virge video_cards_savage
  video_cards_siliconmotion video_cards_sis video_cards_sisusb
  video_cards_sunbw2 video_cards_suncg14 video_cards_suncg3
  video_cards_suncg6 video_cards_sunffb video_cards_sunleo
  video_cards_suntcx video_cards_tdfx video_cards_tga video_cards_trident
  video_cards_tseng video_cards_v4l video_cards_vermilion video_cards_vesa
  video_cards_via video_cards_virtualbox video_cards_vmware
  video_cards_voodoo video_cards_xgi xorg} Installed versions: 
  1.6.3.901-r2(20:56:44 14/10/09)(hal nptl xorg -debug -dmx -ipv6 -kdrive
  -minimal -sdl -tslib)
 
 
  I've followed:
  http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Intel_GMA
 
  but when I try to start X, my system hangs...
 
  [I] x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
   Available versions:  ~2.4.3 ~2.5.1-r1 2.6.3-r1 ~2.7.1 ~2.7.99.902-r1
  ~2.8.0 2.8.1 ~2.9.0 {debug dri} Installed versions:  2.8.1(19:12:22
  15/10/09)(dri -debug)
   Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
   Description: X.Org driver for Intel cards
 
  cat /etc/make.conf
  USE=acpi alsa -apache2 apm -arts aspell -audiofile -berkdb cdparanoia
  cdr clamav -cli ctype dbus divx dri dvd dvdr -eds -emboss -esd -fam
  firefox -foomaticdb -fortran gif -gnome gtk gtk2 hal hddtemp -idn imap
  -ipv6 -isdnlog jpeg jpeg2k jpg -kde -kerberos -lcms -ldap -libg++ -mng
  mp3 mpeg mpeg2 mplayer -mysql ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin opengl
  -oss -pam pcre pdf -php -pppd -qt4 quicktime -reflection sasl -seamonkey
  session  spell sqlite sse2 ssl startup-notification -static svg symlink
  tcltk thunar unicode -qt3 userlocales vcd -vhost win32codecs X xface  xml
  xml2 -xmms xscreensaver xfce spamassassin CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
  CFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe
  CXXFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe
  SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
  PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error log
  MAKEOPTS=-j3
  INPUT_DEVICES=evdev mouse keyboard
  VIDEO_CARDS=vesa intel i810
  LINGUAS=es en
 
 
  xorg.conf:
 
  Section ServerLayout
  Identifier X.org Configured
  Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
  InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
  InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
  EndSection
 
  Section Files
  ModulePath   /usr/lib/xorg/modules
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/OTF
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/
  FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
  EndSection
 
  Section Module
  Load  glx
  Load  xtrap
  Load  record
  Load  extmod
  Load  dbe
  Load  synaptics
  EndSection
 
  Section InputDevice
  Identifier  Keyboard0
  Driver  kbd
  EndSection
 
  Section InputDevice
  Identifier  Mouse0
  Driver  synaptics
  EndSection
 
 
 
  Section Monitor
  Identifier   Monitor0
  VendorName   Monitor Vendor
  ModelNameMonitor Model
  EndSection
 
  Section Device
  Identifier  Card0
  Driver  vesa
 
 Should be intel
 
 You also can remove all InputDevice sections as those are controlled
 by hal.
 

he should let them in, but he can remove all FontPath and modules entries. And 
yes, 'vesa' has to be changed.

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel GM965

2009-10-15 Thread Albert Hopkins 
On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 19:41 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  
  You also can remove all InputDevice sections as those are
 controlled
  by hal.
  
 
 he should let them in, but he can remove all FontPath and modules
 entries. And 
 yes, 'vesa' has to be changed.

Or you could remove xorg.conf altogether and let hal handle all the
work.

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel GM965

2009-10-15 Thread Arnau Bria 
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:51:21 -0400
Albert Hopkins wrote:

 On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 19:41 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Hi all,

   You also can remove all InputDevice sections as those are
  controlled
   by hal.
   
  
  he should let them in, but he can remove all FontPath and modules
  entries. And 
  yes, 'vesa' has to be changed.
 
 Or you could remove xorg.conf altogether and let hal handle all the
 work.
Yes, should be intel instead of vesa, but with vesa I'ma ble to stat X
and send mails :-) sorry, I had to change that.


going to test what you recommend and come back. Oh, with no xorg, X is
not able to starts.

Cheers,
Arnau

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel GM965

2009-10-15 Thread Arnau Bria 
Ok,

with no xorg it says something about not beeing able to run in
frammebufer mode... I could take the error if it's interesting

the other tips did not work, when I start X it hangs... I have to
do a ahard shutdown.

Thanks for your replies!
Arnau

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel GM965

2009-10-15 Thread W.Kenworthy 
On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 14:51 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 19:41 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   
   You also can remove all InputDevice sections as those are
  controlled
   by hal.
   
  
  he should let them in, but he can remove all FontPath and modules
  entries. And 
  yes, 'vesa' has to be changed.
 
 Or you could remove xorg.conf altogether and let hal handle all the
 work.
 
xorg with hal does not work well on many systems - and hal on my laptop
(i915) was a disaster.  Resolutions I have been using for years
disappear and changing screens/projectors (its a laptop used for
presentations) seriously confused it, if it even worked at all.  And the
few times it did, it was not possible to optimise it as the autoconfig
kept picking strange, non-optimal resolutions.

Instead of trying hal, I'd recommend compiling xorg-server with -hal and
using xorg.conf to tell the system what it should do (and probably set
UXA acceleration and turn off EDID and DDC in xorg.conf).  This is one
case where auto-detection isn't working well at all - and it should :(

BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel GM965

2009-10-15 Thread Albert Hopkins 
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 08:47 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote:
 xorg with hal does not work well on many systems - and hal on my
 laptop
 (i915) was a disaster.  

Well I guess YMMV.  I have 3 machines using i915 drivers and all of them
work flawless with hal and no xorg.conf.  Even the laptop which I'm
using now.  I get all the resolutions that the laptop's LCD uses and
plus I'm able to plug it in into an external monitor and use one or both
screens.  All three pointers work (touchpad, trackpoint  external
mouse), GLX works, KMS works... even my i915-based HTPC that connects to
my TV through HDMI works (1080p, HDMI audio out) with no xorg.conf.

On the contrary, people I usually see that had to use config files with
the new xorg were people who used proprietary graphics drivers.

-a

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel GM965

2009-10-15 Thread W.Kenworthy 
On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 21:36 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 08:47 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote:
  xorg with hal does not work well on many systems - and hal on my
  laptop
  (i915) was a disaster.  
 
 Well I guess YMMV.  I have 3 machines using i915 drivers and all of them
 work flawless with hal and no xorg.conf.  Even the laptop which I'm
 using now.  I get all the resolutions that the laptop's LCD uses and
 plus I'm able to plug it in into an external monitor and use one or both
 screens.  All three pointers work (touchpad, trackpoint  external
 mouse), GLX works, KMS works... even my i915-based HTPC that connects to
 my TV through HDMI works (1080p, HDMI audio out) with no xorg.conf.
 
 On the contrary, people I usually see that had to use config files with
 the new xorg were people who used proprietary graphics drivers.
 
 -a

What happens on the laptop when the external projector/screen wants
1280x1024 that isn't on the laptops internal LCD (my normal operation
mode with an external monitor on my desk)? - it tries to force a common
screen which is 1024x768 and wont acknowledge that the laptop hardware
is quite happy with 1024x768 - the ext LCD looks terrible compared with
the LCD native resolution.  On one external projector it even went to
800x600 (even though it seemed that 1024x768 was common).  

What happens when the screen sets a resolution it thinks the external
can do, which it does but it either tears (often seems to happen as
projectors age, though you can usually select a lower resolution using
xrandr) or goes black? - Ive had cases where both the internal LCD and
external monitor go black together - though not for awhile :(  Many of
our projectors seem to advertise high resolutions to the laptop, but are
actually a lot lower, using conversion to display it - usually quite
poorly.  With a 1366x768 screen on the laptop, a few projectors accept
that but badly distort in X or Y to fit the 4x3 aspect ratio they use -
note that these are institutionally managed displays so I don't get
access to the controls - I have to fit in with them :(  Then there is
Mythtv, as 1366x768 isnt the same as 1360x768 which my 3 digital TV's
with PC inputs (not HDMI) want, 1360x768 is unavailable unless I
USE=-hal for xorg-server, and then turn off EDID and DDC in xorg.conf.
And yes, it works perfectly when I do.  And I didnt need to do this
before X tried to get too smart for itself.

The problem with using hal is not so much that it often does not work
well (which it doesn't), but that you cant override it to get the
control back.  People might be satisfied with it if they don't know
better, but I have had a lot of fights over the years to get X to do
what I want and when it wont do what I know it can do, its really
frustrating, especially as my workflow is set around various resolutions
in particular locations.

Its a lot easier on a desktop, but even there I dont have a single
system that is totally happy with no xorg.conf.  Problems range from
ignoring the xorg ati driver in favour of vesa (why?), to choosing
resolutions that are not optimal so these have partial xorg.conf's to
fix just those areas that need overriding.

If windows and Macs can do it without arcane manual configuration, why
cant X?  Maybe in the future it will get sorted, but at the moment they
have a long way to go.

BillK