[gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win
Greetings all -- Here is a question I'd like opinions on. We have a new director at my job and she uses a Mac. Naturally, we are all PC based using Windows and *barf* Outlook. When she sends emails from her Mac: Sometimes attachments don't arrive. Sometimes the emails never arrive (or so people claim, never happens to me) Sometimes her emails end up in the junk mail folder (again, never happens to me) Our IT people are telling here this is because Mac email is not compatible with PCs. My intuition years of computer use is telling me this is bullshit. I've been wrong before . . . Just not often. *haha* Any commentary? Thank you -- Adrian -- On The Fly Photography -:- Creation From Chaos On The Fly Photography: http://204EastSouth.com Purchase from On The Fly: http://204EastSouth.com/OTFStore.htm The Cynical Libertarian Society: http://www.204EastSouth.com/cls -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win
Adrian wrote: Greetings all -- Here is a question I'd like opinions on. We have a new director at my job and she uses a Mac. Naturally, we are all PC based using Windows and *barf* Outlook. When she sends emails from her Mac: Sometimes attachments don't arrive. Sometimes the emails never arrive (or so people claim, never happens to me) Sometimes her emails end up in the junk mail folder (again, never happens to me) Our IT people are telling here this is because Mac email is not compatible with PCs. My intuition years of computer use is telling me this is bullshit. I've been wrong before . . . Just not often. *haha* Any commentary? Thank you -- Adrian Does she use some sort of digital signature or that sort of stuff? sometimes outlooks does not handle that kind of attachments... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win
-Original Message- From: Adrian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2007 14:22 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win ... foo ... When she sends emails from her Mac: Sometimes attachments don't arrive. Sometimes the emails never arrive (or so people claim, never happens to me) Sometimes her emails end up in the junk mail folder (again, never happens to me) Our IT people are telling here this is because Mac email is not compatible with PCs. My intuition years of computer use is telling me this is bullshit. I would try the following: Have her send a plain text email to an outlook inbox as well as a gmail or something address. See if it arrives at both. If it only arrives at one, Outlook is to blame. If neither, her Mac is. Then try with an attachment. Also check all your junk filters. -- djn -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win
When she sends emails from her Mac: Sometimes attachments don't arrive. Have the Mac person try this: Go in to Mail, Preferences - Composing. The top preference is: Composing: Message Format: Rich Text is probably selected. Pick Plain Text instead. This is a good idea in general, but it also affects one specific and obscure corner case: Mac user forwarding a received email which includes an attachment. When Mac Mail forwards with Rich Text, the generated MIME has a tree structure that some MUAs don't handle. The attachment is there but the MUA won't see it. Sometimes the emails never arrive (or so people claim, never happens to me) Sometimes her emails end up in the junk mail folder (again, never happens to me) Can't help you there, at least not without much more info. The first thing I'd check, though, are the account settings on the Mac. Maybe there's a mismatch between the claimed account name ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and the SMTP server ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) that's triggering antispam rules? G'luck, ^E -- Ed Santiago Toolsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win
On Friday 02 February 2007 09:55, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win': While we're at it, my 2007 Hyundai Getz 1400 is running rough for the first few minutes in the morning. Any of you gentooites know how to fix this? Cold where you are? Double check your fluid levels. If they are all fine, what weight oil are you using? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpuoULrKARYH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win
Nice answer, nice distribution list [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 February 2007 09:55, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win': While we're at it, my 2007 Hyundai Getz 1400 is running rough for the first few minutes in the morning. Any of you gentooites know how to fix this? Cold where you are? Double check your fluid levels. If they are all fine, what weight oil are you using?
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:15:25 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: While we're at it, my 2007 Hyundai Getz 1400 is running rough for the first few minutes in the morning. Any of you gentooites know how to fix this? Cold where you are? Double check your fluid levels. If they are all fine, what weight oil are you using? Surely the correct advice for this list is to strip the engine down to its smallest component parts and rebuild it emerge -e engine :) -- Neil Bothwick Stupidity is NOT a handicap. You'll have to park elsewhere. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 17:28:11 + Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:15:25 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: foo your IT guys are idiots. As if there was a 'MAC' mail and a 'PC' mail. they should be fired for their fundamental misunderstanding of a core internet service ; ) While we're at it, my 2007 Hyundai Getz 1400 is running rough for the first few minutes in the morning. Any of you gentooites know how to fix this? i live in minnesota and expect any car (especially older, but any) to require a few minutes warmup before it runs particularly well. Also use thin oil. 5w-30 is better than 10w-30 in cold (all) weather. But almost every car has 5w-30 in it anyway. Cold where you are? it's supposed to be -30 degrees F. with wind chill here in the Twin Cities this weekend. And I guess the country canada changed the way we measure wind chill too - used to be 30 feet off the ground, but now it's at ground level (???) and so evidently it's like, -70 below this weekend with the old wind chill index or something. Don't quote me on that ; ) how is a car like a computer? - neither work quite like they're supposed to unless you prove your worth to them ; ) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win
On Friday 02 February 2007 17:28, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:15:25 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: While we're at it, my 2007 Hyundai Getz 1400 is running rough for the first few minutes in the morning. Any of you gentooites know how to fix this? Cold where you are? Double check your fluid levels. If they are all fine, what weight oil are you using? Surely the correct advice for this list is to strip the engine down to its smallest component parts and rebuild it emerge -e engine :) Nope, you forget he comes from another distro. First he needs to set up the CHOST and USE flags; ergo the engine clearly needs blueprinting before it's converted from a hair-drier to a supercharged NO2-injected V8. ;-) -- Regards, Mick pgpc1fdDuz8jY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 14:48:32 -0600 Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 17:28:11 + Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:15:25 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: foo your IT guys are idiots. As if there was a 'MAC' mail and a 'PC' mail. they should be fired for their fundamental misunderstanding of a core internet service ; ) This was my opinion as well. I explained it this way: Email protocols (maybe the wrong word, but I know what I mean and no one else around there knows anything other than the send button) are standard around the world, on all computers, otherwise you couldn't sent an email from America to China. Yes, they are idiots. And they are paid well for it. Adrian -- On The Fly Photography -:- Creation From Chaos On The Fly Photography: http://204EastSouth.com Purchase from On The Fly: http://204EastSouth.com/OTFStore.htm The Cynical Libertarian Society: http://www.204EastSouth.com/cls -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Email from Mac to PC/Win
Hi, Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2007 schrieb Adrian: Greetings all -- When she sends emails from her Mac: Sometimes attachments don't arrive. is this the case? Or are the attachments not visible in the client? I'm quite shure there's a button to look at the mail source even in a client like outlook. This way you can see, if the attachment is there, but not shown. Another possibility is, that the mailserver disallows some types of attachment and removes them if considered bad. Maybe your experts configured it this way :) Sometimes the emails never arrive (or so people claim, never happens to me) If so, it's not because she is using a mac. Sometimes her emails end up in the junk mail folder (again, never happens to me) That's a question of how the filter is configured. Maybe somebody has her in his blacklist :) Our IT people are telling here this is because Mac email is not compatible with PCs. My intuition years of computer use is telling me this is bullshit. Regarding MIME, some clients are somewhat special. So it is not necessarily bullshit when attachments are not shown. It certainly is bullshit regarding lost email or junkmail filtering. Thank you -- Adrian Hth, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
