Re: [gentoo-user] packages messing with /dev

2022-05-22 Thread Dale
k...@aspodata.se wrote:
>  Dear package maintainers,
> please do not mess with preexisting files in /dev.
>
> I have static /dev and that suit me well for quite a few systems that
> has a static environment, especially system that are intended to for
> a long time and where I tend to minimize the number of running
> processes, every running process is something that can go wrong.
> Their /dev/ files are set up for their intended use, and I don't want
> surprises there.
>
> When upgrading it isn't easy to see what package that did
> something to /dev so it isn't easy to bug the guilty party.
>
> If sys-fs/static-dev is installed, please do not touch /dev,
> if you want you can leave suggestions in some file.
>
> Regards,
> /Karl Hammar

Most package maintainers are on -dev.  There is a few on here but this
topic may not apply to them.  I'd suggest either filing a bug against
whatever package is touching /dev or maybe posting on -dev mailing
list.  Unless you know what package is doing this, it may not get much
if any response.  Hard to fix something when it is unknown what to fix. 

Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] packages messing with /dev

2022-05-22 Thread karl
 Dear package maintainers,
please do not mess with preexisting files in /dev.

I have static /dev and that suit me well for quite a few systems that
has a static environment, especially system that are intended to for
a long time and where I tend to minimize the number of running
processes, every running process is something that can go wrong.
Their /dev/ files are set up for their intended use, and I don't want
surprises there.

When upgrading it isn't easy to see what package that did
something to /dev so it isn't easy to bug the guilty party.

If sys-fs/static-dev is installed, please do not touch /dev,
if you want you can leave suggestions in some file.

Regards,
/Karl Hammar






Re: [gentoo-user] packages going stable after sources become unavailable

2019-09-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 11:38 AM Grant Edwards  wrote:
>
> This seems to happen regularly with Imagemagick.  Version 7.0.8.60
> just went stable today, yet it can't be built because version 7.0.8.60
> sources can no longer be downloaded.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?
>
> Shouldn't there be a requirement that an ebuild actually be
> _buildable_ from scratch when it goes stable?
>

Do you have a working Gentoo distfile mirror in your make.conf?

imagemagic has a mirror:// SRC_URI.  That means there is no upstream
distfile available, and Gentoo is distributing its own file via the
mirrors (this is actually frowned upon these days though I'm not sure
if it is banned offhand - I just avoid doing it this way).  Usually
the better practice is to host the file somewhere (such as the Gentoo
webserver), and it will be mirrored anyway.  These mirror:// files are
manually injected into the mirror system by developers, and then they
stick around as long as some ebuild references them, and then they
just go poof without a trace (which means users with older repos can
have issues).  There has been talk about more robust solutions for
these files (especially patches/etc), but nothing has happened.

If your system isn't configured with a working Gentoo distfile mirror
then for most packages you're probably downloading everything from
upstream, but these mirror:// URIs have no sources other than the
mirrors so if you don't have a working mirror config it simply won't
fetch at all.

In general anything in the tree should be fetchable.  If that isn't
the case it should be quickly spotted and fixed/removed, and it is
always a valid bug, assuming it isn't just a local issue on your
system.  I wouldn't file a bug for this issue - I suspect QA would
have already if it wanted to make it a strict policy.  This sort of
thing is trivially detected with a tinderbox or repoman if desired.

-- 
Rich



[gentoo-user] packages going stable after sources become unavailable

2019-09-08 Thread Grant Edwards
I've noticed on several occasions in the past few months that by the
time some packages are marked stable, the version is old enough that
sources are no longer available -- so the emerge fails because sources
can no longer be downloaded.  If I'm lucky I may have a copy of the
sources on another machine.  If I'm not lucky, I just wait until the
next time a new version goes stable and hope that it's not been
obsoleted.

This seems to happen regularly with Imagemagick.  Version 7.0.8.60
just went stable today, yet it can't be built because version 7.0.8.60
sources can no longer be downloaded.

Am I doing something wrong?

Shouldn't there be a requirement that an ebuild actually be
_buildable_ from scratch when it goes stable?

-- 
Grant






Re: [gentoo-user] Packages failed to build during 17.0 -> 17.1 migration

2019-06-09 Thread Jack

On 2019.06.07 06:24, Ilya Trukhanov wrote:

On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 08:03:30AM +0100, Sergei Trofimovich wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jun 2019 18:49:48 -0400
> Jack  wrote:
>
> > On 2019.06.06 18:38, Ilya Trukhanov wrote:
> > > Namely x11-libs/libX11 and dev-libs/glib:
> > >
> > > - libX11 failed during configure because it couldn't find xcb;
> > > - glib failed during configure because it couldn't find  
libmount.

> > >
> > > Looks like it is an order issue, because after rebuilding
> > > x11-libs/libxcb and sys-apps/util-linux, both libX11 and glib  
built

> > > just
> > > fine.
> > >
> > > Should I report bugs for these? The news item says:
> > >
> > > >If you have any problems with the new profiles or the migration
> > > >procedure, please report a bug and make it block the tracker.
> > >
> > > But I'm a little reluctant to do so for various reasons.
> > >
> > I'm in the same situation.  I've had several rebuild failures that
> > succeeded after re-emerging one/some of what they depend on,  
although I

> > would have expected those to also be rebuilt.
> >
> > I wonder if the instructions should be "emerge -1 --deep /lib32
> > /usr/lib32" ?  I'll have to try it once I'm done with the current  
set

> > of emerges.
> >
> > Anyway - it probably does make sense to file the bug - the worst  
they
> > will do is close it as not a bug, and hopefully at least tell you  
what

> > you should have done to avoid the problem.
> >
>
> I think the emerge command as stated in the news item is incomplete
> as emerge does not pick correct rebuild order (it assumes all  
packages

> are installed and in order, thus picks arbitrary rebuild order).
>
> Try to add --complete-graph to it:
> emerge -1 --deep --complete-graph /lib32 /usr/lib32
>
> --
>
>   Sergei
>

Unfortunately this still doesn't guarantee the correct build order for
me. I wonder if running emerge with --keep-going a few times would  
work in

this situation?

It might be a good idea to mention this issue somewhere on the wiki  
or in a

follow-up news item. I doubt we're the last to face this problem now
that 17.1 profiles are stable.


I opened bug 687600 to improve the New item for this.
For me, adding --deep to the emerge command fixed the build order.
I would guess that adding --keep-going, and running multiple times  
would eventually get everything rebuilt also.


Jack



Re: [gentoo-user] Packages failed to build during 17.0 -> 17.1 migration

2019-06-07 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 13:24:07 +0300
Ilya Trukhanov  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 08:03:30AM +0100, Sergei Trofimovich wrote:
> > On Thu, 06 Jun 2019 18:49:48 -0400
> > Jack  wrote:
> >   
> > > On 2019.06.06 18:38, Ilya Trukhanov wrote:  
> > > > Namely x11-libs/libX11 and dev-libs/glib:
> > > > 
> > > > - libX11 failed during configure because it couldn't find xcb;
> > > > - glib failed during configure because it couldn't find libmount.
> > > > 
> > > > Looks like it is an order issue, because after rebuilding
> > > > x11-libs/libxcb and sys-apps/util-linux, both libX11 and glib built  
> > > > just
> > > > fine.
> > > > 
> > > > Should I report bugs for these? The news item says:
> > > > 
> > > > >If you have any problems with the new profiles or the migration
> > > > >procedure, please report a bug and make it block the tracker.
> > > > 
> > > > But I'm a little reluctant to do so for various reasons.
> > > > 
> > > I'm in the same situation.  I've had several rebuild failures that  
> > > succeeded after re-emerging one/some of what they depend on, although I  
> > > would have expected those to also be rebuilt.
> > > 
> > > I wonder if the instructions should be "emerge -1 --deep /lib32  
> > > /usr/lib32" ?  I'll have to try it once I'm done with the current set  
> > > of emerges.
> > > 
> > > Anyway - it probably does make sense to file the bug - the worst they  
> > > will do is close it as not a bug, and hopefully at least tell you what  
> > > you should have done to avoid the problem.
> > >   
> > 
> > I think the emerge command as stated in the news item is incomplete
> > as emerge does not pick correct rebuild order (it assumes all packages
> > are installed and in order, thus picks arbitrary rebuild order).
> > 
> > Try to add --complete-graph to it:
> > emerge -1 --deep --complete-graph /lib32 /usr/lib32
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> >   Sergei
> >   
> 
> Unfortunately this still doesn't guarantee the correct build order for
> me. I wonder if running emerge with --keep-going a few times would work in
> this situation?
> 
> It might be a good idea to mention this issue somewhere on the wiki or in a
> follow-up news item. I doubt we're the last to face this problem now
> that 17.1 profiles are stable.

Yeah, if these options help you it's totally worth reporting a bug to update 
news item.

-- 

  Sergei



Re: [gentoo-user] Packages failed to build during 17.0 -> 17.1 migration

2019-06-07 Thread Ilya Trukhanov
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 08:03:30AM +0100, Sergei Trofimovich wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jun 2019 18:49:48 -0400
> Jack  wrote:
> 
> > On 2019.06.06 18:38, Ilya Trukhanov wrote:
> > > Namely x11-libs/libX11 and dev-libs/glib:
> > > 
> > > - libX11 failed during configure because it couldn't find xcb;
> > > - glib failed during configure because it couldn't find libmount.
> > > 
> > > Looks like it is an order issue, because after rebuilding
> > > x11-libs/libxcb and sys-apps/util-linux, both libX11 and glib built  
> > > just
> > > fine.
> > > 
> > > Should I report bugs for these? The news item says:
> > >   
> > > >If you have any problems with the new profiles or the migration
> > > >procedure, please report a bug and make it block the tracker.  
> > > 
> > > But I'm a little reluctant to do so for various reasons.
> > >   
> > I'm in the same situation.  I've had several rebuild failures that  
> > succeeded after re-emerging one/some of what they depend on, although I  
> > would have expected those to also be rebuilt.
> > 
> > I wonder if the instructions should be "emerge -1 --deep /lib32  
> > /usr/lib32" ?  I'll have to try it once I'm done with the current set  
> > of emerges.
> > 
> > Anyway - it probably does make sense to file the bug - the worst they  
> > will do is close it as not a bug, and hopefully at least tell you what  
> > you should have done to avoid the problem.
> > 
> 
> I think the emerge command as stated in the news item is incomplete
> as emerge does not pick correct rebuild order (it assumes all packages
> are installed and in order, thus picks arbitrary rebuild order).
> 
> Try to add --complete-graph to it:
> emerge -1 --deep --complete-graph /lib32 /usr/lib32
> 
> -- 
> 
>   Sergei
> 

Unfortunately this still doesn't guarantee the correct build order for
me. I wonder if running emerge with --keep-going a few times would work in
this situation?

It might be a good idea to mention this issue somewhere on the wiki or in a
follow-up news item. I doubt we're the last to face this problem now
that 17.1 profiles are stable.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages failed to build during 17.0 -> 17.1 migration

2019-06-07 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Thu, 06 Jun 2019 18:49:48 -0400
Jack  wrote:

> On 2019.06.06 18:38, Ilya Trukhanov wrote:
> > Namely x11-libs/libX11 and dev-libs/glib:
> > 
> > - libX11 failed during configure because it couldn't find xcb;
> > - glib failed during configure because it couldn't find libmount.
> > 
> > Looks like it is an order issue, because after rebuilding
> > x11-libs/libxcb and sys-apps/util-linux, both libX11 and glib built  
> > just
> > fine.
> > 
> > Should I report bugs for these? The news item says:
> >   
> > >If you have any problems with the new profiles or the migration
> > >procedure, please report a bug and make it block the tracker.  
> > 
> > But I'm a little reluctant to do so for various reasons.
> >   
> I'm in the same situation.  I've had several rebuild failures that  
> succeeded after re-emerging one/some of what they depend on, although I  
> would have expected those to also be rebuilt.
> 
> I wonder if the instructions should be "emerge -1 --deep /lib32  
> /usr/lib32" ?  I'll have to try it once I'm done with the current set  
> of emerges.
> 
> Anyway - it probably does make sense to file the bug - the worst they  
> will do is close it as not a bug, and hopefully at least tell you what  
> you should have done to avoid the problem.
> 

I think the emerge command as stated in the news item is incomplete
as emerge does not pick correct rebuild order (it assumes all packages
are installed and in order, thus picks arbitrary rebuild order).

Try to add --complete-graph to it:
emerge -1 --deep --complete-graph /lib32 /usr/lib32

-- 

  Sergei



Re: [gentoo-user] Packages failed to build during 17.0 -> 17.1 migration

2019-06-06 Thread Jack

On 2019.06.06 18:38, Ilya Trukhanov wrote:

Namely x11-libs/libX11 and dev-libs/glib:

- libX11 failed during configure because it couldn't find xcb;
- glib failed during configure because it couldn't find libmount.

Looks like it is an order issue, because after rebuilding
x11-libs/libxcb and sys-apps/util-linux, both libX11 and glib built  
just

fine.

Should I report bugs for these? The news item says:

>If you have any problems with the new profiles or the migration
>procedure, please report a bug and make it block the tracker.

But I'm a little reluctant to do so for various reasons.

I'm in the same situation.  I've had several rebuild failures that  
succeeded after re-emerging one/some of what they depend on, although I  
would have expected those to also be rebuilt.


I wonder if the instructions should be "emerge -1 --deep /lib32  
/usr/lib32" ?  I'll have to try it once I'm done with the current set  
of emerges.


Anyway - it probably does make sense to file the bug - the worst they  
will do is close it as not a bug, and hopefully at least tell you what  
you should have done to avoid the problem.




[gentoo-user] Packages failed to build during 17.0 -> 17.1 migration

2019-06-06 Thread Ilya Trukhanov
Namely x11-libs/libX11 and dev-libs/glib:

- libX11 failed during configure because it couldn't find xcb;
- glib failed during configure because it couldn't find libmount.

Looks like it is an order issue, because after rebuilding
x11-libs/libxcb and sys-apps/util-linux, both libX11 and glib built just
fine.

Should I report bugs for these? The news item says:

>If you have any problems with the new profiles or the migration
>procedure, please report a bug and make it block the tracker.

But I'm a little reluctant to do so for various reasons.


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[gentoo-user] Packages

2012-08-08 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello,

when i understand correctly so give it Gentoo Packages with can installed. 
Where can find this packages? Because i has clean my Netbook now from Sabayon
and have installed Gentoo directly. But build Libreoffice need much time, so 
where better to find a package? Is there a chance or must built from sources?


Thanks  Regards
Silvio



Re: [gentoo-user] Packages

2012-08-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
 Hello,

 when i understand correctly so give it Gentoo Packages with can installed.
 Where can find this packages? Because i has clean my Netbook now from Sabayon
 and have installed Gentoo directly. But build Libreoffice need much time, so
 where better to find a package? Is there a chance or must built from sources?


 Thanks  Regards
 Silvio


Hi Silvio,
   I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you asking where you
can get a pre-built 'package'? I.e. - Gentoo builds from source code
but you don't want to build libreoffice from source so you want a
pre-built version?

   If that's your question then the generic answer is that Gentoo does
not supply pre-built packages. That said there are a few packages that
are supplied prebuilt and libreoffice is one of them. emerge
libreoffice-bin.

   If that's not the answer you are looking for then ask again.

HTH,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Packages

2012-08-08 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, 

On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:32:55 -0700
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Silvio,
I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you asking where you
 can get a pre-built 'package'? I.e. - Gentoo builds from source code
 but you don't want to build libreoffice from source so you want a
 pre-built version?

Yes thats was the question. Sorry for my english. Yes so i accept to build
all from source, but Libreoffice from source on a Atom need not hours, need
days. 
 
If that's your question then the generic answer is that Gentoo does
 not supply pre-built packages. That said there are a few packages that
 are supplied prebuilt and libreoffice is one of them. emerge
 libreoffice-bin.

Yes, the Description explain it. I must go to the doctor, need new glasses.


Thank you  Regards
Silvio



Re: [gentoo-user] Packages

2012-08-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 19:53:46 +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote:

 Yes thats was the question. Sorry for my english. Yes so i accept to
 build all from source, but Libreoffice from source on a Atom need not
 hours, need days. 

Only hours, but quite a lot of them. About 16 IIRC.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

You have the capacity to learn from mistakes. You'll learn a lot today.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages

2012-08-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Wed, 8 Aug 2012 19:53:46 +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote:

 Yes thats was the question. Sorry for my english. Yes so i accept to
 build all from source, but Libreoffice from source on a Atom need not
 hours, need days.

 Only hours, but quite a lot of them. About 16 IIRC.

I was surprised the other evening when updating my wife's machine that
her Intel i7 needed around an hour to get that thing built from
source. It drove the fan speed up enough that I could hear the machine
working to get the job done. Think I need to open the box and clean
the CPU fan as I now suspect it's clogged with dust...

- Mark



[gentoo-user] Packages needing masked 'introspection' keyword

2011-04-24 Thread Graham Murray
After syncing a few minutes ago,

emerge -puDv --reinstall changed-use  --autounmask=y @world @system

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U  ] media-libs/libpng-1.4.7 [1.4.5] USE=-static-libs 535 kB
[ebuild U  ] dev-libs/gobject-introspection-0.10.8 [0.10.7-r1] USE=doc 
-test 1,001 kB
[ebuild U  ] x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf-2.22.1-r1 [2.22.1] USE=X doc 
(introspection*) jpeg jpeg2k tiff -debug -test 0 kB
[ebuild   R] dev-libs/atk-1.32.0  USE=doc (introspection*) nls 0 kB
[ebuild   R] x11-libs/pango-1.28.4  USE=X doc (introspection*) -debug 
-test 0 kB
[ebuild   R] media-video/mjpegtools-1.9.0-r1  USE=dv gtk mmx png quicktime 
sdl v4l yv12 -dga (-X%*) 0 kB
[ebuild  N ] media-video/gpac-0.4.5-r4  USE=a52 aac alsa ffmpeg ipv6 jack 
javascript jpeg jpeg2k mad opengl oss png pulseaudio sdl ssl theora truetype 
vorbis xml xvid -debug -wxwidgets 0 kB 


[ebuild U  ] dev-db/mysql-5.1.56 [5.1.53] USE=community embedded perl ssl 
-big-tables -cluster -debug -extraengine -latin1 -max-idx-128 -minimal -pbxt 
-profiling (-selinux) -static -test -xtradb 0 kB   


[ebuild   R] x11-libs/gtk+-3.0.9  USE=cups doc examples introspection* 
vim-syntax (-aqua) -debug -test -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild U  ] app-text/libwpd-0.8.14-r1 [0.8.14] USE=doc -test% -tools% 0 
kB
[ebuild  N ] sci-chemistry/openbabel-python-2.3.0  0 kB
[ebuild   R] sci-chemistry/openbabel-2.3.0  USE=doc perl* python* 
-wxwidgets 0 kB

Total: 12 packages (5 upgrades, 2 new, 5 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 1,536 
kB

The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
#required by x11-libs/gtk+-3.0.9, required by dev-ada/gtkada-2.10.0, required 
by @selected, required by @world (argument)
=x11-libs/pango-1.28.4 introspection
#required by x11-libs/gtk+-3.0.9, required by dev-ada/gtkada-2.10.0, required 
by @selected, required by @world (argument)
=dev-libs/atk-1.32.0 introspection
#required by x11-libs/gtk+-3.0.9, required by dev-ada/gtkada-2.10.0, required 
by @selected, required by @world (argument)
=x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf-2.22.1-r1 introspection


As the introspection USE flag is shown in brackets for these
packages. it is not possible to enable them as required,



[gentoo-user] Packages in other architectures (arm)

2009-08-05 Thread Daniel Quinn
I've just come into possession of a few of these fabulous little machines:

http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp

They have 512mb ram, 1ghz Arm CPU and a sketchy jffs2 hard drive inside, 
along with an SDHC slot, one USB plug and one gigabit ethernet port.  
Naturally, I'm turning them into a little cluster of web/mail/dns/torrent 
servers :-)

Unfortunatly though, I've discovered that one of my favourite command-line 
based torrent clients, rtorrent doesn't have arm in its KEYWORDS variable.  
Can someone tell me why this is?  If it's just due to it not having been 
tested, I'd be happy to do that, but I'd need to know the right way to do 
that.



Re: [gentoo-user] Packages in other architectures (arm)

2009-08-05 Thread Stroller


On 5 Aug 2009, at 18:49, Daniel Quinn wrote:

...
Unfortunatly though, I've discovered that one of my favourite  
command-line
based torrent clients, rtorrent doesn't have arm in its KEYWORDS  
variable.
Can someone tell me why this is?  If it's just due to it not having  
been
tested, I'd be happy to do that, but I'd need to know the right  
way to do

that.


Surely no-one here can. Possibly the Gentoo developer for the package  
could tell you, it's equally possible that no-one's ever tried it.


Simply copy the package's ebuild to your local tree, edit it to add  
the ARM keyword and try it. If it works, open a bug at Gentoo asking  
for the package to be marked as table on your architecture.


http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Overlay#Creating_a_local_overlay

It looks like rtorrent does compile on ARM:
http://www.osix.net/modules/article/?id=827

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Packages in other architectures (arm)

2009-08-05 Thread Daniel Quinn
On August 5, 2009 02:09:21 pm Stroller wrote:
 Simply copy the package's ebuild to your local tree, edit it to add
 the ARM keyword and try it. If it works, open a bug at Gentoo asking
 for the package to be marked as table on your architecture.

 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Overlay#Creating_a_local_overlay

Thanks!  I'll try that tonight and if it works out, I'll do just as you 
suggest.




Re: [gentoo-user] Packages in other architectures (arm)

2009-08-05 Thread AllenJB

Stroller wrote:


On 5 Aug 2009, at 18:49, Daniel Quinn wrote:

...
Unfortunatly though, I've discovered that one of my favourite 
command-line
based torrent clients, rtorrent doesn't have arm in its KEYWORDS 
variable.

Can someone tell me why this is?  If it's just due to it not having been
tested, I'd be happy to do that, but I'd need to know the right way 
to do

that.


Surely no-one here can. Possibly the Gentoo developer for the package 
could tell you, it's equally possible that no-one's ever tried it.


Simply copy the package's ebuild to your local tree, edit it to add the 
ARM keyword and try it. If it works, open a bug at Gentoo asking for the 
package to be marked as table on your architecture.


http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Overlay#Creating_a_local_overlay

It looks like rtorrent does compile on ARM:
http://www.osix.net/modules/article/?id=827

Stroller.


There's no need to edit an ebuild. You can add the package to 
package.keywords with ** as the keyword.


AllenJB



Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-31 Thread András Csányi
2008/10/30 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Donnerstag 30 Oktober 2008, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 30 Oct, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have the same 'problem'. Which portage version are you using?

 I'm using portage-2.2_rc12 on amd64 hardware.

 same here.

 Would nice to know the version from peoples without the problem.

I use portage-2.1.4.5 on x86.


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Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-31 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Donnerstag 30 Oktober 2008, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
   
 On 30 Oct, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 
 Hi,

 I have the same 'problem'. Which portage version are you using?
   
 I'm using portage-2.2_rc12 on amd64 hardware.
 

 same here.

 Would nice to know the version from peoples without the problem.



   


Mine works here and here is the info:

[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/portage-2.2_rc12  USE=-build -doc -epydoc
(-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl 0 kB

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-30 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

I have a (nearly) identical Gentoo system on several machines.
On all machines except one, there is a directory

/usr/portage/packages/All

which contains symlinks to the packages in the specific
directories. This is quite comfortable when copying the
most recent packages.

How can I set up GenToo to create and maintain this directory?

Many thanks for a hint,

Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-30 Thread András Csányi
2008/10/30 Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 I have a (nearly) identical Gentoo system on several machines.
 On all machines except one, there is a directory

 /usr/portage/packages/All

 which contains symlinks to the packages in the specific
 directories. This is quite comfortable when copying the
 most recent packages.

 How can I set up GenToo to create and maintain this directory?

If you set up in the /etc/make.conf file the FEATURES=buildpkg the
portage will maintain the /usr/portage/packages/All directory
automatically.
If you wanto to know more about portage and portage features I suggest
to you to read the documentation. Here is:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=gentoo


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Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-30 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 30 Oct, András Csányi wrote:
 2008/10/30 Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 I have a (nearly) identical Gentoo system on several machines.
 On all machines except one, there is a directory

 /usr/portage/packages/All

 which contains symlinks to the packages in the specific
 directories. This is quite comfortable when copying the
 most recent packages.

 How can I set up GenToo to create and maintain this directory?
 
 If you set up in the /etc/make.conf file the FEATURES=buildpkg the
 portage will maintain the /usr/portage/packages/All directory
 automatically.

Unfortunately this is not the case here.
The packages are built but no 'All' subdirectory is created nor
maintained.

 If you wanto to know more about portage and portage features I suggest
 to you to read the documentation. Here is:
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=gentoo
 
 

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RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-30 Thread András Csányi
2008/10/30 Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 30 Oct, András Csányi wrote:
 2008/10/30 Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 I have a (nearly) identical Gentoo system on several machines.
 On all machines except one, there is a directory

 /usr/portage/packages/All

 which contains symlinks to the packages in the specific
 directories. This is quite comfortable when copying the
 most recent packages.

 How can I set up GenToo to create and maintain this directory?

 If you set up in the /etc/make.conf file the FEATURES=buildpkg the
 portage will maintain the /usr/portage/packages/All directory
 automatically.

 Unfortunately this is not the case here.
 The packages are built but no 'All' subdirectory is created nor
 maintained.

I don't know what is the problem in your system.
On my system:

Without FEATURES=buildkpg

cd /usr/portage/packages/
ls -lR
softwarealchemy packages # ls -lR
.:
total 20
drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2008-10-30 10:22 All
drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2008-10-30 10:13 dev-lang
drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2008-10-22 17:14 games-simulation
drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2008-10-30 10:13 www-servers

./All:
total 11164
-rw--- 1 root root  6 2008-10-30 10:22 cvs-1.12.12-r4.tbz2
-rw--- 1 root root 3501052 2008-10-22 17:14 openttd-0.6.3-r2.tbz2
-rw--- 1 root root 6247886 2008-10-30 10:13 php-5.2.6-r7.tbz2

./dev-lang:
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2008-10-30 10:13 php-5.2.6-r7.tbz2 -
../All/php-5.2.6-r7.tbz2


./games-simulation:
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2008-10-22 17:14 openttd-0.6.3-r2.tbz2 -
../All/openttd-0.6.3-r2.tbz2

./www-servers:
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-10-30 10:13 apache-2.2.9-r1.tbz2 -
../All/apache-2.2.9-r1.tbz2


I switched FEATURES=buildpkg and emerge cvs and the result:

softwarealchemy packages # ls -lR
.:
total 20
drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2008-10-30 10:22 All
drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2008-10-30 10:13 dev-lang
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-10-30 10:22 dev-util
drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2008-10-22 17:14 games-simulation
drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2008-10-30 10:13 www-servers

./All:
total 11164
-rw--- 1 root root  6 2008-10-30 10:22 cvs-1.12.12-r4.tbz2
-rw--- 1 root root 3501052 2008-10-22 17:14 openttd-0.6.3-r2.tbz2
-rw--- 1 root root 6247886 2008-10-30 10:13 php-5.2.6-r7.tbz2

./dev-lang:
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2008-10-30 10:13 php-5.2.6-r7.tbz2 -
../All/php-5.2.6-r7.tbz2

./dev-util:
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2008-10-30 10:22 cvs-1.12.12-r4.tbz2 -
../All/cvs-1.12.12-r4.tbz2

./games-simulation:
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2008-10-22 17:14 openttd-0.6.3-r2.tbz2 -
../All/openttd-0.6.3-r2.tbz2

./www-servers:
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-10-30 10:13 apache-2.2.9-r1.tbz2 -
../All/apache-2.2.9-r1.tbz2

You can see the cvs is installed and the tarball is placed in
/usr/portage/packages/All. In the /usr/portage/packages/dev-util/
directory has a symlink to
/usr/portage/packages/All/cvs-1.12.12-r4.tbz2 file.

I think it is workign fine. Or we are both in big trouble :-D

Sorry my english.

András

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Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-30 Thread Dale
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 30 Oct, András Csányi wrote:
   
 2008/10/30 Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Hi,

 I have a (nearly) identical Gentoo system on several machines.
 On all machines except one, there is a directory

 /usr/portage/packages/All

 which contains symlinks to the packages in the specific
 directories. This is quite comfortable when copying the
 most recent packages.

 How can I set up GenToo to create and maintain this directory?
   
 If you set up in the /etc/make.conf file the FEATURES=buildpkg the
 portage will maintain the /usr/portage/packages/All directory
 automatically.
 

 Unfortunately this is not the case here.
 The packages are built but no 'All' subdirectory is created nor
 maintained.

   

I'm not sure you are correct in this.  I have this set up in my
make.conf and it takes care of the All/ directory on this system and has
done so for about 5 or 6 years now.  It works.  My settings:

FEATURES=buildsyspkg sandbox fixpackages 

Mine only keeps system packages but it can be set up several different ways.

Dale





Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-30 Thread Michele Schiavo
Il giorno gio, 30/10/2008 alle 09.13 +0100, Helmut Jarausch ha scritto:

 Hi,
 
 I have a (nearly) identical Gentoo system on several machines.
 On all machines except one, there is a directory
 
 /usr/portage/packages/All
 
 which contains symlinks to the packages in the specific
 directories. This is quite comfortable when copying the
 most recent packages.
 
 How can I set up GenToo to create and maintain this directory?
 
 Many thanks for a hint,
 
 Helmut Jarausch
 
 Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
 RWTH - Aachen University
 D 52056 Aachen, Germany
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-30 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 30 Oct, Michele Schiavo wrote:
 Il giorno gio, 30/10/2008 alle 09.13 +0100, Helmut Jarausch ha scritto:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a (nearly) identical Gentoo system on several machines.
 On all machines except one, there is a directory
 
 /usr/portage/packages/All
 
 which contains symlinks to the packages in the specific
 directories. This is quite comfortable when copying the
 most recent packages.
 
 How can I set up GenToo to create and maintain this directory?
 

Thanks for the script, still, I don't understand it.

Why quickpkg? The packages are all there (because of
FEATURES=buildpkg in my /etc/make.conf)

But they are in e.g.
/usr/portage/package/dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.4.1.tbz2

whereas on my other machines the package is in

/usr/portage/package/All/eclipse-sdk-3.4.1.tbz2
and
/usr/portage/package/dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.4.1.tbz2
is only a symlink to the former.

but there is no symlink 

Thanks for your help,
Helmut.

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RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany




Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi,

I have the same 'problem'. Which portage version are you using?



Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-30 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 30 Oct, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have the same 'problem'. Which portage version are you using?

I'm using portage-2.2_rc12 on amd64 hardware.

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RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 30 Oktober 2008, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 30 Oct, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have the same 'problem'. Which portage version are you using?

 I'm using portage-2.2_rc12 on amd64 hardware.

same here.

Would nice to know the version from peoples without the problem.




Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-30 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Donnerstag 30 Oktober 2008, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 30 Oct, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have the same 'problem'. Which portage version are you using?

 I'm using portage-2.2_rc12 on amd64 hardware.

 same here.

 Would nice to know the version from peoples without the problem.

In my case, I've never used buildpkg feature and my
/usr/portage/packages is empty. After reading this thread, I decided
to enable it and emerge something small to see what comes out.

After emerging, I do not have an All directory, and there are no
symlinks. It put the package file directly in
/usr/portage/packages/app-arch/zip-3.0.tbz2 and generated a
/usr/portage/packages/Packages file with some info in it.

In make.conf my PKGDIR is not set, so I'm using default...

My profile is default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop

good luck :)

paul



Re: [gentoo-user] packages/All - how to create ?

2008-10-30 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Paul Hartman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Donnerstag 30 Oktober 2008, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 30 Oct, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have the same 'problem'. Which portage version are you using?

 I'm using portage-2.2_rc12 on amd64 hardware.

 same here.

 Would nice to know the version from peoples without the problem.

 In my case, I've never used buildpkg feature and my
 /usr/portage/packages is empty. After reading this thread, I decided
 to enable it and emerge something small to see what comes out.

 After emerging, I do not have an All directory, and there are no
 symlinks. It put the package file directly in
 /usr/portage/packages/app-arch/zip-3.0.tbz2 and generated a
 /usr/portage/packages/Packages file with some info in it.

 In make.conf my PKGDIR is not set, so I'm using default...

 My profile is default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop

 good luck :)

 paul


And I'm using Portage 2.2_rc12



[gentoo-user] Packages not in portage

2007-11-19 Thread pepone.onrez
Hello all

There are same interesting packages that i can't found in gentoo portage. If
any body knows about a non oficial ebuild for any of then i interesting in
it.

AppWeb embeded web server
http://www.appwebserver.org.

Vmime c++ mail library
http://www.vmime.org/index.shtml

CTemplate is a simple but powerful template language for C++
http://code.google.com/p/google-ctemplate/


Thanks


Re: [gentoo-user] Packages not in portage

2007-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:41:14 +0100, pepone.onrez wrote:

 There are same interesting packages that i can't found in gentoo
 portage. If any body knows about a non oficial ebuild for any of then i
 interesting in it.

 Vmime c++ mail library
 http://www.vmime.org/index.shtml

% eix vmime
* dev-cpp/libvmime
 Available versions:  ~*0.8.1[1]
 Homepage:http://www.vmime.org/
 Description: A powerful C++ class library for working with
MIME messages and Internet messaging services like IMAP, POP or SMTP.

[1] (layman/sunrise)

So it's in the sunrise overlay. Try searching b.g.o and f.g.o for the
others.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages that do not compile.

2007-05-08 Thread Nagatoro
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Montag, 7. Mai 2007, David Harel wrote:
[...]
 I think at one point I tried to change gcc configuration (gcc-config) to
 version 4.1.1 but if that is the only way I understand I will have to
 reinstall everything.
 
 you don't need to reinstall everything just for upgrading gcc to 4.1.x. 
 Please 
 read the update guide.
 
 For your problem, I would try MAKEOPTS=-j1 first. Oh, and reset every 
 LDFLAGS you might have set - what about emerge --info?

Also if you tried to upgrade and did compile some packages they
_might_ need to be recompiled. Some packages don't like different gcc
versions in their libs (or just kernel + modules?).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages that do not compile.

2007-05-08 Thread David Harel
Looking in: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml Code Listing 
2.2 I have to do emerge -eav system and emerge -eav world. Isn't that 
rebuilding the entire system?




Nagatoro wrote:


Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
  

On Montag, 7. Mai 2007, David Harel wrote:


[...]
  

I think at one point I tried to change gcc configuration (gcc-config) to
version 4.1.1 but if that is the only way I understand I will have to
reinstall everything.
  
you don't need to reinstall everything just for upgrading gcc to 4.1.x. Please 
read the update guide.


For your problem, I would try MAKEOPTS=-j1 first. Oh, and reset every 
LDFLAGS you might have set - what about emerge --info?



Also if you tried to upgrade and did compile some packages they
_might_ need to be recompiled. Some packages don't like different gcc
versions in their libs (or just kernel + modules?).

  


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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages that do not compile.

2007-05-08 Thread Naga Toro
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 16.26.07 David Harel wrote:
 Looking in: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml Code Listing
 2.2 I have to do emerge -eav system and emerge -eav world. Isn't that
 rebuilding the entire system?

First. please don't use html and top posting.

Second, as stated just above that passage, it is not nessecary but 
recommended.
You must however follow listing 2.1 and I would recomend keeping the old gcc 
installed untill all packages have been upgraded/reemerged just in case.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages that do not compile.

2007-05-08 Thread David Harel



Naga Toro wrote:


On Tuesday 08 May 2007 16.26.07 David Harel wrote:

Looking in: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml Code Listing
2.2 I have to do emerge -eav system and emerge -eav world. Isn't that
rebuilding the entire system?


First. please don't use html and top posting.
Sorry about that. The recipient gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org is set in 
my address book to plain text but thunderbird seems to ignore it.


Second, as stated just above that passage, it is not nessecary but 
recommended.

Here is a quotation from the doc:

To be completely safe that your system is in a sane state, you must 
rebuild the toolchain and then world to make use of the new compiler.


(Now how do I make the word MUST above underlined and bold?) ;-)


You must however follow listing 2.1 and I would recomend keeping the old gcc 
installed untill all packages have been upgraded/reemerged just in case.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages that do not compile.

2007-05-08 Thread Naga Toro
On Tuesday 08 May 2007 17.06.51 David Harel wrote:
 Naga Toro wrote:
  Second, as stated just above that passage, it is not nessecary but
  recommended.

 Here is a quotation from the doc:

 To be completely safe that your system is in a sane state, you must
 rebuild the toolchain and then world to make use of the new compiler.

 (Now how do I make the word MUST above underlined and bold?) ;-)

_underline_ *bold* usualy workes fine :)

But still atleast I interpret that as should work without, but better safe 
then sorry.

But then later in the same doc it says:
If you upgrade from gcc 3.3 to 4.1, do not use the method based on 
revdep-rebuild, but do a complete system rebuild.
so the answer to your question would be either stay with 3.3.6 and rebuild 
those packages that you emerged with 4.1.1 or upgrade to 4.1.1 and rebuild 
system + world (ccache is highly recomended).

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[gentoo-user] Packages that do not compile.

2007-05-07 Thread David Harel

As so many times before, openssl fails to compile.

Top most error is: openssl.c:(.text+0x15c): undefined reference to 
`OPENSSL_add_all_algorithms_noconf'. Two other packages that give me 
trouble are: glibc and python. All attempts are after sync and to a 
stable (so I hope) version.


GCC version is: gcc (GCC) 3.3.6 (Gentoo 3.3.6, ssp-3.3.6-1.0, pie-8.7.8)
I think at one point I tried to change gcc configuration (gcc-config) to 
version 4.1.1 but if that is the only way I understand I will have to 
reinstall everything.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages that do not compile.

2007-05-07 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 7. Mai 2007, David Harel wrote:
  As so many times before, openssl fails to compile.

 Top most error is: openssl.c:(.text+0x15c): undefined reference to
 `OPENSSL_add_all_algorithms_noconf'. Two other packages that give me
 trouble are: glibc and python. All attempts are after sync and to a
 stable (so I hope) version.

 GCC version is: gcc (GCC) 3.3.6 (Gentoo 3.3.6, ssp-3.3.6-1.0, pie-8.7.8)
 I think at one point I tried to change gcc configuration (gcc-config) to
 version 4.1.1 but if that is the only way I understand I will have to
 reinstall everything.


you don't need to reinstall everything just for upgrading gcc to 4.1.x. Please 
read the update guide.

For your problem, I would try MAKEOPTS=-j1 first. Oh, and reset every 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:49:16 -0500, Willie Wong wrote:

   Is there a way of finding out whether I have packages installed on
   my system from a given overlay? I am asking because I noticed that
   some of the packages I've installed (such as GoogleEarth) from
   overlays had been incorporated into the official portage. I would
   like to 'unsubscribe' to overlays that doesn't have packages that I
   need. 

I use the attached script to look for packages installed from overlay
where the same version is available in portage. Run it with the -v option
to see a diff between the two ebuilds, otherwise it just reports names.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-13 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 12:31:33PM +, Penguin Lover Neil Bothwick squawked:
 I use the attached script to look for packages installed from overlay
 where the same version is available in portage. Run it with the -v option
 to see a diff between the two ebuilds, otherwise it just reports names.

Whoa! Thanks, Neil!

W

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:30:44 -0500, Willie Wong wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 12:31:33PM +, Penguin Lover Neil Bothwick
 squawked:

LOL!

  I use the attached script to look for packages installed from overlay
  where the same version is available in portage. Run it with the -v
  option to see a diff between the two ebuilds, otherwise it just
  reports names.  
 
 Whoa! Thanks, Neil!

No problem, I wrote it for my own use some time ago. It uses colordiff to
produce the diffs so either

1) Emerge colordiff
2) Edit the script to use diff instead
3) Don't use the -v option

Warranty is the usual whatever happens, happens and if it breaks, you
get to keep the pieces.


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[gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-12 Thread Willie Wong
Hi list, 

  Is there a way of finding out whether I have packages installed on
  my system from a given overlay? I am asking because I noticed that
  some of the packages I've installed (such as GoogleEarth) from
  overlays had been incorporated into the official portage. I would
  like to 'unsubscribe' to overlays that doesn't have packages that I
  need. 

Thanks, 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-12 Thread Dale
Willie Wong wrote:
 Hi list, 

   Is there a way of finding out whether I have packages installed on
   my system from a given overlay? I am asking because I noticed that
   some of the packages I've installed (such as GoogleEarth) from
   overlays had been incorporated into the official portage. I would
   like to 'unsubscribe' to overlays that doesn't have packages that I
   need. 

 Thanks, 

 Willie
   

You may want to reconsider this.  I have googleearth installed here and
it doesn't get along well with portage and it's digest checking.  Of
course, it doesn't like my dial-up either.  LOL

From what I understand Google doesn't allow Gentoo to mirror the souce
tarball.  After you install it and sync later on, if Google has changed
something, you get a digest error.  It will delete the tarball from
distfiles too.  I'm on dial-up and that sort of ticks me off,

The way I got around it is to manually delete it from my world file. 
That way it doesn't check the digest.  Some guru may have a better way
to do this but this is what I have ran into with googleearth.  May want
to check farther before you run into the same thing I did.

Hope that helps, and makes sense.  Sometimes I don't.  LOL

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-12 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 13 January 2007 01:49, Willie Wong wrote:
 Is there a way of finding out whether I have packages installed on
 my system from a given overlay? I am asking because I noticed that
 some of the packages I've installed (such as GoogleEarth) from
 overlays had been incorporated into the official portage. I would
 like to 'unsubscribe' to overlays that doesn't have packages that I
 need.

Portage currently does not store any information about where a package was 
installed from. Therefore the best you can do is manually inspect the output 
of `eix --installed-overlay`. It will show all packages where the version you 
have installed exists in any overlay (and you can see if they exist in the 
tree too). That, however, only implies that they might have been installed 
from that overlay..

It does require app-portage/eix-0.8.x. Also if you use update-eix-remote you 
better (re)move the eix database (/var/cache/eix) and regenerate the database 
with `update-eix` first or you will get a lot of false positives. IOW you 
need the eix database to only contain installed overlays.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-12 Thread Kent Fredric

On 1/13/07, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You may want to reconsider this.  I have googleearth installed here and
it doesn't get along well with portage and it's digest checking.  Of
course, it doesn't like my dial-up either.  LOL


It would appear google has updated their package without changing the
name, and portage has not been notified of this change. If you want it
to work, delete the digest file for it in
${PORTAGE_DIR}/x11-misc/googleearth/files/digest-googleearth-4_beta
and then re-generate it with
ebuild ${PORTAGE_DIR}/x11-misc/googleearth/googleearth-4_beta digest

and that should fix you up. I found it still compiles and runs fine *shrugs*

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-12 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
Doesn't really seem to be related to OPs question so it probably should have 
been a new thread, however...

On Saturday 13 January 2007 05:15, Dale wrote:
[SNIP]
 From what I understand Google doesn't allow Gentoo to mirror the souce
 tarball.  After you install it and sync later on, if Google has changed
 something, you get a digest error.

The real issue is that google refuse to rename the tarball when they release a 
new version. The secondary issue is then that Gentoo can't rename it on their 
own mirros since they aren't allowed to redistribute it.

 It will delete the tarball from distfiles too.

Without your consent??

 I'm on dial-up and that sort of ticks me off, 

Understandable. You should, however, realize that it is an actual upgrade 
you're rejecting in this case.

 The way I got around it is to manually delete it from my world file.
 That way it doesn't check the digest.  Some guru may have a better way
 to do this but this is what I have ran into with googleearth.  May want
 to check farther before you run into the same thing I did.

I don't really have a better suggestion if you don't want the upgrades. 
Redigesting it as Kent suggests seems rather pointless as you would just be 
reinstalling the old version (while tricking portage into believing you get 
the newer version (as if that mattered ;)) with no actual gain.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-12 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 05:22:27AM +0100, Penguin Lover Bo ?rsted Andresen 
squawked:
 Portage currently does not store any information about where a package was 
 installed from. Therefore the best you can do is manually inspect the output 
 of `eix --installed-overlay`. It will show all packages where the version you 
 have installed exists in any overlay (and you can see if they exist in the 
 tree too). That, however, only implies that they might have been installed 
 from that overlay..

Oh, that is too bad. 

I think I can live with having extra overlays living on my testing
box. 

Just a thought though: would the following be advisable/work?

Could I just delete those relevant overlays (either layman -d or
perhaps commenting them out in the relevant parts of the make.confs)
and see if emerge complains about non-existant packages in my world
file or unsatisfiable dependency? IIRC, I shouldn't have any packages
installed from overlays for more recent versions than portage offered;
I only install them from overlays when the ebuilds are not in portage
at all. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-12 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 13 January 2007 06:09, Willie Wong wrote:
 Oh, that is too bad.

Unless you have a lot of overlays it not really *that* bad.

[SNIP]
 Just a thought though: would the following be advisable/work?

 Could I just delete those relevant overlays (either layman -d or
 perhaps commenting them out in the relevant parts of the make.confs)
 and see if emerge complains about non-existant packages in my world
 file or unsatisfiable dependency? IIRC, I shouldn't have any packages
 installed from overlays for more recent versions than portage offered;
 I only install them from overlays when the ebuilds are not in portage
 at all.

# PORTDIR_OVERLAY= emerge -ep world /dev/null

!!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all
!!! masked or don't exist:
dev-util/regex-coach app-portage/pfs net-analyzer/ksniffer kde-misc/kcpufreq 
app-portage/gentoo-stats

So yeah, that works. :)

IMO the real solution for your problem, however, is a package manager with 
true multiple repository support allowing you to control from which 
repository you want to install a given package. I'm not sure if pkgcore is 
there yet (since I don't follow it too closely), but paludis is. Paludis thus 
also stores information about which repository a package was installed from.

With portage if the same ebuild or eclass exists in any of your overlays and 
in the tree then the one in the tree will just be hidden to portage behind 
the overlay. That's why they are called overlays in the first place.. ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-12 Thread Dale
Kent Fredric wrote:
 On 1/13/07, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You may want to reconsider this.  I have googleearth installed here and
 it doesn't get along well with portage and it's digest checking.  Of
 course, it doesn't like my dial-up either.  LOL

 It would appear google has updated their package without changing the
 name, and portage has not been notified of this change. If you want it
 to work, delete the digest file for it in
 ${PORTAGE_DIR}/x11-misc/googleearth/files/digest-googleearth-4_beta
 and then re-generate it with
 ebuild ${PORTAGE_DIR}/x11-misc/googleearth/googleearth-4_beta digest

 and that should fix you up. I found it still compiles and runs fine
 *shrugs*


True, you hit the problem right on the head.  That is exactly what they
do.  But what I had noticed is that they change that thing a lot.  Since
I am on a really slow dial-up here, I check for updates, sync, every
couple days or so.  While I know that it comes from Google and I don't
question the tarball from a security point of view, portage still
complains about it each time and deletes it for me, since it thinks it
is a security problem.  That would normally be a great idea but then I
have to download it again, which takes a little over two hours for me.
I get about 10Mbs a hour here.   goes to have a good cry 

Plus, it is a pain in the butt to have to manually do the digest thing
every time I sync up too.  My solution was to remove it from the world
file, since portage had already deleted the tarball and I didn't want to
download it again to do a oneshot install.  Now the only drawback is
that --depclean -p tells me it is not needed since it is not in the
world file and is not a dependancy.  I do that manually anyways so it
doesn't matter.

I'm no guru but if he wants it out of overlay, he may want to emerge it
as a oneshot at least.  Then just check for updates on occasion.  I had
to use the --digest option too when I installed it.  That way it assumes
it is OK and doesnt' check it.

Hope that makes sense.  Maybe . . . .   LOL

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-12 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
I've gotten this mail twice now.

On Saturday 13 January 2007 07:28, Dale wrote:
 Kent Fredric wrote:
  It would appear google has updated their package without changing the
  name, and portage has not been notified of this change.

It's the other way around. He gets a digest verification error *because* 
portage was notified. The old ebuild gets removed because it's tarball is now 
unavailable upstream (and a new is available under the same name).

[SNIP]
  and that should fix you up. I found it still compiles and runs fine
  *shrugs*

Not much of a fix. Just gets the old version. Of course it still compiles and 
runs. It hasn't changed at all.

[SNIP]
 While I know that it comes from Google and I don't question the tarball from
 a security point of view, portage still complains about it each time and
 deletes it for me, since it thinks it is a security problem.  That would
 normally be a great idea but then I have to download it again, which takes a
 little over two hours for me. I get about 10Mbs a hour here.
[SNIP]

I can't help wondering. If you don't have the bandwidth to upgrade when there 
is an upgrade. How useful is googleearth to you then. It's not like it 
doesn't require any bandwidth just to run... Also the more often you sync the 
more bandwidth you need with Gentoo in general..

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages from overlays

2007-01-12 Thread Dale
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 I've gotten this mail twice now.

 On Saturday 13 January 2007 07:28, Dale wrote:
   
 Kent Fredric wrote:
 
 It would appear google has updated their package without changing the
 name, and portage has not been notified of this change.
   

 It's the other way around. He gets a digest verification error *because* 
 portage was notified. The old ebuild gets removed because it's tarball is now 
 unavailable upstream (and a new is available under the same name).

 [SNIP]
   
 and that should fix you up. I found it still compiles and runs fine
 *shrugs*
   

 Not much of a fix. Just gets the old version. Of course it still compiles and 
 runs. It hasn't changed at all.

 [SNIP]
   
 While I know that it comes from Google and I don't question the tarball from
 a security point of view, portage still complains about it each time and
 deletes it for me, since it thinks it is a security problem.  That would
 normally be a great idea but then I have to download it again, which takes a
 little over two hours for me. I get about 10Mbs a hour here.
 
 [SNIP]

 I can't help wondering. If you don't have the bandwidth to upgrade when there 
 is an upgrade. How useful is googleearth to you then. It's not like it 
 doesn't require any bandwidth just to run... Also the more often you sync the 
 more bandwidth you need with Gentoo in general..

   

I only got it once.  :/

Well, I tried the other way around, not updating as often but I have it
all planned out now.  The problem with waiting is that it builds up.  I
would hate to sync after a month or so then find out OOo and KDE was
updated, plus some otehrs for good measure.  Just OOo takes me about 24
hours to download.  Yes, I get the compiled version.  This is Gentoo
after all.  ;-)  Plus, I ran into a config nightmare.  To many updates
at once for me.  I'm not a guru.

The way I do is this, I connect around 10:00PM, check my emails and
sometimes the weather.  Then I start the sync process and tell it to
fetch the new stuff afterwards, got to love the .  While it is doing
that, I go for my nightly soak in the tub.  I have a skin disorder and I
have spent several hours in the tub.  This works well because at the
very least the fetch has started and sometimes it has been fetching for
a while.  It depends on how many things are updated and how long I soak. 

As for googleearth, well, dial-up has taught me patience.  It works, it
just takes a really long time to get there.  Sometimes another soak in
the tub.  LOL

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages for Python 2.3

2006-08-29 Thread Pupeno
On Tuesday 29 August 2006 05:24, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 You may need to modify the ebuild. Try adding something like this near
 the top:

 PYTHON_SLOT_VERSION=2.3

 That's used by distutils.eclass, which mysql-python inherits.

Ouch! Is that the only way ? modifying the ebuild and loosing it for Python 
2.4 ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages for Python 2.3

2006-08-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Pupeno wrote:

On Tuesday 29 August 2006 05:24, Donnie Berkholz wrote:

You may need to modify the ebuild. Try adding something like this near
the top:

PYTHON_SLOT_VERSION=2.3

That's used by distutils.eclass, which mysql-python inherits.


Ouch! Is that the only way ? modifying the ebuild and loosing it for Python 
2.4 ?


Well you may not need to lose it for 2.4, if you also revision bump it. 
Portage doesn't support simultaneously installing the same version 
multiple times, that's why you need to change the revision number (or 
the package name).


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[gentoo-user] Packages for Python 2.3

2006-08-28 Thread Pupeno
Hello,
I am developing some software that needs to be tested against Python 2.3. So 
my Gentoo box has both, Python 2.4 and 2.3. Now, I need to have some Python 
packages available for both (or at least, for 2.3), for example: 
mysql-python.
How do I achieve that ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages for Python 2.3

2006-08-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Pupeno wrote:

Hello,
I am developing some software that needs to be tested against Python 2.3. So 
my Gentoo box has both, Python 2.4 and 2.3. Now, I need to have some Python 
packages available for both (or at least, for 2.3), for example: 
mysql-python.

How do I achieve that ?


You may need to modify the ebuild. Try adding something like this near 
the top:


PYTHON_SLOT_VERSION=2.3

That's used by distutils.eclass, which mysql-python inherits.

Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] Packages being Re-emerged after portage update

2006-08-21 Thread Graham Murray
Following a portage update/sync and running 'emerge -auDvN world',
packages sometimes show with 'R' but without any yellow or % USE flags
shown. I assume that this is because a USE flag has been removed from
either the ebuild or an eclass used by the ebuild. If this is correct,
it would be nice if it was to show which USE flag(s) are no longer
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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages being Re-emerged after portage update

2006-08-21 Thread Alan Mckinnon
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 13:21 +0100, Graham Murray wrote:
 Following a portage update/sync and running 'emerge -auDvN world',
 packages sometimes show with 'R' but without any yellow or % USE flags
 shown. I assume that this is because a USE flag has been removed from
 either the ebuild or an eclass used by the ebuild. If this is correct,
 it would be nice if it was to show which USE flag(s) are no longer
 used. 

Now there's an idea, why didn't I think of that? Submit it as a feature
request, I'll give you a me too! vote

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages being Re-emerged after portage update

2006-08-21 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 03:51:47PM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan Mckinnon squawked:
 On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 13:21 +0100, Graham Murray wrote:
  Following a portage update/sync and running 'emerge -auDvN world',
  packages sometimes show with 'R' but without any yellow or % USE flags
  shown. I assume that this is because a USE flag has been removed from
  either the ebuild or an eclass used by the ebuild. If this is correct,
  it would be nice if it was to show which USE flag(s) are no longer
  used. 
 
 Now there's an idea, why didn't I think of that? Submit it as a feature
 request, I'll give you a me too! vote

That would be a neat idea. But I don't think that's what the OP
described. Packages shown with R implies it is being re-compiled.
yellow or % USE flags are new ones. If you have already installed the
package once, the USE flags cannot be new ;)

I would think that if IUSE changed in an ebuild, that would warrant a
version bump, but I don't know the dev's policy on that. 

Most likely those packages are being re-merged because of a changed
USE flag on your configuration: does it have something green or
followed by *? That means a USE flag that changed since the last
install.

HTH,

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages being Re-emerged after portage update

2006-08-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:11:57 -0400, Willie Wong wrote:

 That would be a neat idea. But I don't think that's what the OP
 described. Packages shown with R implies it is being re-compiled.
 yellow or % USE flags are new ones. If you have already installed the
 package once, the USE flags cannot be new ;)

They can if the ebuild has changed, but new flags would be highlighted.
What is happening here is that flags have been removed, and portage
currently does not highlight those. I think the feature request is a god
idea. Post the bug number and I'll add my vote.

 I would think that if IUSE changed in an ebuild, that would warrant a
 version bump, but I don't know the dev's policy on that. 

Ebuild fixes and other general tidying up that do not alter the installed
code do not get a revision bump.


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[gentoo-user] Packages I like are blocking a package I don't want? (kdebase)

2006-04-10 Thread Daniel
I installed the kde meta-packages because I didn't want to be burdened with 
stuff I didn't need.  Unfortunately, I had to add these packages 
to /etc/portage/packages.keywords in order to get them to install and 
everything was fine for about 2days.  And then this happened:

# emerge --pretend --update --deep world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] =kde-base/konsole-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/ksmserver-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kmenuedit-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kicker-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kcontrol-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/ksysguard-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/nsplugins-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/klipper-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/ksplashml-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdm-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kwin-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/konqueror-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kate-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kfind-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/khotkeys-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdesktop-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kpersonalizer-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kxkb-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kcminit-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdesu-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdialog-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kstart-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/libkonq-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kreadconfig-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[ebuild U ] sys-devel/binutils-config-1.8-r7 [1.8-r6]
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.28 [2.20]
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/baselayout-1.11.14-r7 [1.11.14-r6]
[ebuild U ] x11-libs/cairo-1.0.4 [1.0.2]
[ebuild U ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r2 [3.5.2]
[ebuild U ] net-fs/samba-3.0.22 [3.0.21b]
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/busybox-1.1.0 [1.00-r4]
[ebuild U ] app-arch/tar-1.15.1-r1 [1.15.1]
[ebuild U ] media-video/lsdvd-0.16 [0.15]
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/hdparm-6.3 [5.9]
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/kbd-1.12-r6 [1.12-r5]
[ebuild  NS   ] media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.4
[ebuild U ] dev-libs/liboil-0.3.8 [0.3.6]
[ebuild  N] media-libs/gst-plugins-base-0.10.4-r1
[ebuild  NS   ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.4
[ebuild  N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo-0.10.4-r1
[ebuild  N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-x-0.10.4
[ebuild  N] media-libs/libmp4v2-1.4.1
[ebuild  N] dev-ruby/ruby-config-0.3.1
[ebuild  N] dev-lang/ruby-1.8.4-r1
[ebuild  N] media-libs/libgpod-0.3.0
[ebuild  N] media-libs/faad2-2.0-r3
[ebuild U ] media-sound/amarok-1.4_beta3 [1.3.9]
[ebuild U ] kde-base/kwin-3.5.2-r1 [3.5.2]
[ebuild U ] kde-base/ksysguard-3.5.2-r1 [3.5.2]
[ebuild U ] app-text/poppler-0.5.1-r1 [0.5.1]
[ebuild  N] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2
[ebuild U ] app-text/poppler-bindings-0.5.1-r1 [0.5.1]
[ebuild U ] sys-process/psmisc-22.1 [21.9]
[ebuild U ] kde-base/konq-plugins-3.5.2-r1 [3.5.2]
[ebuild U ] media-sound/sox-12.17.9 [12.17.7-r1]

Can someone explain what's going on?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages I like are blocking a package I don't want? (kdebase)

2006-04-10 Thread Richard Fish
On 4/10/06, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I installed the kde meta-packages because I didn't want to be burdened with
 stuff I didn't need.  Unfortunately, I had to add these packages
 to /etc/portage/packages.keywords in order to get them to install and
 everything was fine for about 2days.  And then this happened:

 # emerge --pretend --update --deep world

Add the --tree and --verbose options to see why portage wants to merge kdebase.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages I like are blocking a package I don't want? (kdebase)

2006-04-10 Thread Richard Fish
On 4/10/06, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [ebuild U ] media-sound/amarok-1.4_beta3 [1.3.9]

Now that I look closer, I think this is the problem.  amarok depends
on (kde-base/konqueror or kde-base/kdebase) and
(kde-base/kdemultimedia-kioslaves or kde-base/kdemultimedia)

I am guessing you need to merge konqueror.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages I like are blocking a package I don't want? (kdebase)

2006-04-10 Thread Daniel
On Monday 10 April 2006 14:25, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 4/10/06, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [ebuild U ] media-sound/amarok-1.4_beta3 [1.3.9]

 Now that I look closer, I think this is the problem.  amarok depends
 on (kde-base/konqueror or kde-base/kdebase) and
 (kde-base/kdemultimedia-kioslaves or kde-base/kdemultimedia)

 I am guessing you need to merge konqueror.

Actually, I tried using --tree --verbose earlier.  Strangely enough, it looks 
like KPDF is requiring this.  I alread have Konqueror installed:

# emerge --pretend --update --deep --tree --verbose world
These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kreadconfig-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/libkonq-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kstart-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdialog-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdesu-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kcminit-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kxkb-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kpersonalizer-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdesktop-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/khotkeys-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kfind-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kate-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/konqueror-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kcheckpass-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kwin-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdm-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/ksplashml-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/klipper-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/nsplugins-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/ksysguard-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kcontrol-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kicker-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kmenuedit-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5* (is blocking 
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/ksmserver-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/konsole-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2)
[nomerge  ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.14  +alsa -arts +css -debug* +dvdr +encode 
+ffmpeg -flac -hal +kde +mp3 -musepack +musicbrainz -sndfile +vcd 
+vorbis -xinerama
[ebuild U ]  media-sound/sox-12.17.9 [12.17.7-r1] +alsa +encode +mad +ogg 
457 kB
[ebuild U ] kde-base/konq-plugins-3.5.2-r1 
[3.5.2] -arts -debug* -kdeenablefinal -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild U ] sys-process/psmisc-22.1 [21.9] +X +ipv6 +nls (-selinux) 230 kB
[nomerge  ] kde-base/kpdf-3.5.2  -arts -debug* -kdeenablefinal -xinerama
[ebuild U ]  app-text/poppler-bindings-0.5.1-r1 [0.5.1] -cairo +gtk 
+qt -qt4 40 kB
[ebuild  N]  kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2  -arts -cups -debug -hal -ieee1394 
+java -kdeenablefinal -ldap -lm_sensors -logitech-mouse -openexr +opengl +pam 
+samba +ssl +xcomposite -xinerama -xscreensaver -zeroconf 0 kB
[ebuild U ]  app-text/poppler-0.5.1-r1 [0.5.1] +jpeg 0 kB
[ebuild U ] kde-base/ksysguard-3.5.2-r1 
[3.5.2] -arts -debug* -kdeenablefinal -lm_sensors -xinerama -zeroconf 0 kB
[nomerge  ] 
kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.2  -arts -debug* -kdeenablefinal -xinerama
[ebuild U ]  kde-base/kwin-3.5.2-r1 [3.5.2] -arts -debug* -kdeenablefinal 
+xcomposite -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild U ] media-sound/amarok-1.4_beta3 [1.3.9] 
+aac -akode -arts -debug* -exscalibar -flac +gstreamer -ifp +ipod +kde 
+musicbrainz +mysql +noamazon +opengl -postgres +real 
+visualization -xinerama +xmms 11,912 kB
[nomerge  ]  media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3  +X -a52 +aac -aalib +alsa 
(-altivec) -arts -asf -cle266 -debug* -directfb +dts +dvd -dxr3 -esd -fbcon 
+ffmpeg -flac -gnome +i8x0 +imagemagick +ipv6 -libcaca +mad -mng +nls -nvidia 
+opengl -oss +samba* +sdl -speex +theora +v4l +vcd -vidix +vorbis 
+win32codecs -xinerama +xv +xvmc*
[nomerge  ]   media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216  -a52 +aac 
(-altivec) -debug* -doc +dts +encode -ieee1394 +imlib +mmx +network -ogg -oss 
+sdl -test +theora -threads +truetype +v4l -vorbis +xvid +zlib
[ebuild  N]media-libs/faad2-2.0-r3  +xmms 0 kB
[ebuild  N]  media-libs/libgpod-0.3.0  +gtk -hal 444 kB

Re: [gentoo-user] Packages I like are blocking a package I don't want? (kdebase)

2006-04-10 Thread Richard Fish
On 4/10/06, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually, I tried using --tree --verbose earlier.  Strangely enough, it looks
 like KPDF is requiring this.  I alread have Konqueror installed:

Ok.  I am getting lost in the maze of the kde-functions and kde-meta
eclasses, but I think this is because kpdf has  dependancy on
kde-base/kdeprint, which you do not seem to have (at least, you don't
get a blocking message for that like you do with konqueror).

Try merging kde-base/kdeprint, and see if that helps.

Did you add the ~x86 keyword for all kde-base packages, or only those
that you merged?

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages I like are blocking a package I don't want? (kdebase)

2006-04-10 Thread Daniel
On Monday 10 April 2006 16:53, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 4/10/06, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Actually, I tried using --tree --verbose earlier.  Strangely enough, it
  looks like KPDF is requiring this.  I alread have Konqueror installed:

 Ok.  I am getting lost in the maze of the kde-functions and kde-meta
 eclasses, but I think this is because kpdf has  dependancy on
 kde-base/kdeprint, which you do not seem to have (at least, you don't
 get a blocking message for that like you do with konqueror).

 Try merging kde-base/kdeprint, and see if that helps.

 Did you add the ~x86 keyword for all kde-base packages, or only those
 that you merged?

HA!  That was it!
kdeprint was required by kpdf, which required kghostview, neither of which 
were unmasked in package.keywords.

Why oh why haven't these meta packages been unmasked yet?  They work just 
fine.

Anyway, thanks be to you for helping me find that one.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages I like are blocking a package I don't want? (kdebase)

2006-04-10 Thread Richard Fish
On 4/10/06, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why oh why haven't these meta packages been unmasked yet?  They work just
 fine.

From a recent discussion on -dev, the 3.5.2 versions could be unmasked
soon.  The previous versions were just too buggy to consider
infliciting on the stable users.

BTW, what I really recommend for you is:

# cd /usr/portage/kde-base
# for x in *; do echo kde-base/$x ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords; done
# sort /etc/portage/package.keywords | uniq  /etc/portage/package.keywords.new
# mv /etc/portage/package.keywords.new /etc/portage/package.keywords

The above will unmask all kde-base applications, and should save you
from this problem in the future.  When it does reach stable, just
remove kde-base/* from the file.

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[gentoo-user] Packages CD for x86 with 2006.0

2006-03-15 Thread Nick Rout
Is there a set of binary packages available on CD for 32 bit x86 of any
description. The list on the release page seems to be.

amd64
ppc (ppc) 
ppc (g4) 
ppc (64 bit - 32bit userland) 
ppc (64 bit - 64bit userland) 
sparc64

same on the torrents page.

Do users of older machines (who could really do with a quick install
method) miss out?

Please don't argue against binary installs in your reply. I know the
issues.

Nick (running the annual chch gentoo mini installfest soon)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages CD for x86 with 2006.0

2006-03-15 Thread Steven S.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Nick Rout wrote:


Is there a set of binary packages available on CD for 32 bit x86 of any
description. The list on the release page seems to be.

amd64
ppc (ppc)
ppc (g4)
ppc (64 bit - 32bit userland)
ppc (64 bit - 64bit userland)
sparc64

same on the torrents page.

Do users of older machines (who could really do with a quick install
method) miss out?

Please don't argue against binary installs in your reply. I know the
issues.

Nick (running the annual chch gentoo mini installfest soon)




It doesn't look like it's hiding somewhere on the mirrors. Perhaps they 
want you to stick with the 2005.1 packages? Really odd all around.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages CD for x86 with 2006.0

2006-03-15 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Thursday 16 March 2006 00:23, Nick Rout wrote:
 Is there a set of binary packages available on CD for 32 bit x86 of any
 description. The list on the release page seems to be.

 amd64
 ppc (ppc)
 ppc (g4)
 ppc (64 bit - 32bit userland)
 ppc (64 bit - 64bit userland)
 sparc64

 same on the torrents page.

 Do users of older machines (who could really do with a quick install
 method) miss out?

 Please don't argue against binary installs in your reply. I know the
 issues.

 Nick (running the annual chch gentoo mini installfest soon)

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Hi,
Seems the lower harware limit for an install with binary packages is i686.
Using the ones on the livecd-i686-2006.0. There're not even classical binary 
packages, but livecd could be used to perform a binary install (haven't  made 
one though). Assume the target audience was considered too small to bother.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages CD for x86 with 2006.0

2006-03-15 Thread Nick Rout

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:31:30 -0800 (PST)
Steven S. wrote:

 On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Nick Rout wrote:
 
  Is there a set of binary packages available on CD for 32 bit x86 of any
  description. The list on the release page seems to be.
 
  amd64
  ppc (ppc)
  ppc (g4)
  ppc (64 bit - 32bit userland)
  ppc (64 bit - 64bit userland)
  sparc64
 
  same on the torrents page.
 
  Do users of older machines (who could really do with a quick install
  method) miss out?
 
  Please don't argue against binary installs in your reply. I know the
  issues.
 
  Nick (running the annual chch gentoo mini installfest soon)
 
 
 
 It doesn't look like it's hiding somewhere on the mirrors. Perhaps they 
 want you to stick with the 2005.1 packages? Really odd all around.


D'oh. RTFM Nick

2006.0 handbook, section 1b

Is GRP Available?

Not all architectures provide GRP packages. That doesn't mean GRP isn't 
supported on the other architectures, but it means that we don't have the 
resources to build and test the GRP packages.

At present we provide GRP packages for the following architectures:

* The amd64 architecture (amd64)
* The ppc architecture (ppc32, ppc64)
* The sparc architecture (sparc64)
    * The x86 architecture (athlon, athlon-xp,
athlon-mp, pentium-pro, pentium2, pentium3, pentium4 and pentium-m)
Note: THE PACKAGES ARE FOR I686 AND ARE AVAILABLE ON THE INSTALLER
LIVECD.

SHOUTING and extra *'s added by me to reinforce my previous silliness.

Sorry to bother you all.





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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list

2006-01-22 Thread Dimitar Toshev
On Friday 20 January 2006 19:44, Phil Sexton wrote:
 Michael A Smith wrote:
  Phil Sexton wrote:
  Felipe Ribeiro wrote:
  Where do I find the list with all installed packages?
 
  Cheers,
 
  Felipe
 
  The ones you emerged are listed in the file:
 
  /var/lib/portage/world
 
  Want it in alphabetical order?
 
  cat /var/lib/portage/world|less
 
  Isn't that a superfluous use of cat? Why not
 
  less /var/lib/portage/world
 
  -Mike

 Oops! I was actually thinking:

 sort /var/lib/portage/world|less

 This gives the listing in alphabetical order, what I previously
 posted doesn't alphabetize it.

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No, no. You have gotten it all wrong. /var/lib/portage/world lists only 
manually installed packages.
e.g.: If you do not have X installed and do
emerge gnome
X will be pulled in as a dependency, along with a whole lot of other stuff, 
but only gnome will be written in world, because that is the package you 
manually emerged. This is why in order upgrade your whole system you have to 
do emerge -u -D world. -D makes emerge check for the given packages' 
dependencies as well. Though this means, that if you have a package 
installed, that is not listed in world, nor is a dependency of anything in 
world, it will never get picked up by portage. It has been stated, that the 
devs will probably implement an all keyword in portage, at some point, so 
that one can more efficiently check for updates to all packages, instead of 
only those in world and their dependencies.

To answer the original question:
Portage keeps information about all emerged pacakges in /var/db/pkg .
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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list

2006-01-22 Thread Phil Sexton

Dimitar Toshev wrote:

On Friday 20 January 2006 19:44, Phil Sexton wrote:


Michael A Smith wrote:


Phil Sexton wrote:


Felipe Ribeiro wrote:


Where do I find the list with all installed packages?

Cheers,

Felipe


The ones you emerged are listed in the file:

/var/lib/portage/world

Want it in alphabetical order?

cat /var/lib/portage/world|less


Isn't that a superfluous use of cat? Why not

less /var/lib/portage/world

-Mike


Oops! I was actually thinking:

sort /var/lib/portage/world|less

This gives the listing in alphabetical order, what I previously
posted doesn't alphabetize it.

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No, no. You have gotten it all wrong. /var/lib/portage/world lists only 
manually installed packages.

e.g.: If you do not have X installed and do
emerge gnome
X will be pulled in as a dependency, along with a whole lot of other stuff, 
but only gnome will be written in world, because that is the package you 
manually emerged. This is why in order upgrade your whole system you have to 
do emerge -u -D world. -D makes emerge check for the given packages' 
dependencies as well. Though this means, that if you have a package 
installed, that is not listed in world, nor is a dependency of anything in 
world, it will never get picked up by portage. It has been stated, that the 
devs will probably implement an all keyword in portage, at some point, so 
that one can more efficiently check for updates to all packages, instead of 
only those in world and their dependencies.


To answer the original question:
Portage keeps information about all emerged pacakges in /var/db/pkg .


nit-pickDon't you mean all compiled packages rather than 
emerged packages?/nit-pick


As I understand it, all emerged packages are listed in the world 
file, and all packages that are installed and compiled 
dependencies are listed in the /var/db/pkg file.


It wasn't completely clear to me which was meant by installed 
and I took it as the packages installed by emerging them.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list

2006-01-20 Thread Michael A. Smith

Phil Sexton wrote:

Felipe Ribeiro wrote:


Where do I find the list with all installed packages?

Cheers,

Felipe



The ones you emerged are listed in the file:

/var/lib/portage/world

Want it in alphabetical order?

cat /var/lib/portage/world|less



Isn't that a superfluous use of cat? Why not

less /var/lib/portage/world

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list

2006-01-20 Thread Phil Sexton

Michael A Smith wrote:

Phil Sexton wrote:


Felipe Ribeiro wrote:


Where do I find the list with all installed packages?

Cheers,

Felipe




The ones you emerged are listed in the file:

/var/lib/portage/world

Want it in alphabetical order?

cat /var/lib/portage/world|less



Isn't that a superfluous use of cat? Why not

less /var/lib/portage/world

-Mike


Oops! I was actually thinking:

sort /var/lib/portage/world|less

This gives the listing in alphabetical order, what I previously 
posted doesn't alphabetize it.


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[gentoo-user] Packages list

2006-01-19 Thread Felipe Ribeiro

Where do I find the list with all installed packages?

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list

2006-01-19 Thread Phil Sexton

Felipe Ribeiro wrote:

Where do I find the list with all installed packages?

Cheers,

Felipe


The ones you emerged are listed in the file:

/var/lib/portage/world

Want it in alphabetical order?

cat /var/lib/portage/world|less

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list

2006-01-19 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Check out man equery.  

On Thursday January 19 2006 19:25, Felipe Ribeiro wrote:
 Where do I find the list with all installed packages?

 Cheers,

 Felipe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list

2006-01-19 Thread Eugene Rosenzweig

Felipe Ribeiro wrote:

Where do I find the list with all installed packages?

Cheers,

Felipe

this will list all installed packages:
equery list

Eugene.


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