[gentoo-user] Re: Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label

2010-05-15 Thread walt

On 05/14/2010 07:45 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2010-05-14 8:23 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Fri, 14 May 2010 07:34:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:

AFAIK most laptops don't (yet) have 2TB disks, which is why Vista is
a poor choice for laptops. Vista needs most of a terabyte after
installing all the bug fixes and service packs



Ok, either you are joking (but the wording doesn't make that very
clear), or you are just one of those antimicrosoft idiot/trolls. If you
were joking, then obviously the latter doesn't apply to you, though you
might want to make the joke a little more evident...



Sarcasm and irony don't work if you have to explain them.


It wasn't worded that way - as written, it was just plain dumb.


As released, Vista was just plain crap.  You're right, though, I let
my anger overwhelm my sense of humor when I wrote that, and it came
across badly.  I'll try to do better next time.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label

2010-05-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-13 7:21 PM, walt wrote:
 AFAIK most laptops don't (yet) have 2TB disks, which is why Vista is 
 a poor choice for laptops. Vista needs most of a terabyte after
 installing all the bug fixes and service packs

Ok, either you are joking (but the wording doesn't make that very
clear), or you are just one of those antimicrosoft idiot/trolls. If you
were joking, then obviously the latter doesn't apply to you, though you
might want to make the joke a little more evident...

A fully patched Vista/Windows7 system might require as much as 7-8+ GB,
which is, what... about .9% of a Terabyte?

I'm not saying that 8GB is not ridiculously high for a core OS install,
of course it is...



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label

2010-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 14 May 2010 07:34:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:

  AFAIK most laptops don't (yet) have 2TB disks, which is why Vista is 
  a poor choice for laptops. Vista needs most of a terabyte after
  installing all the bug fixes and service packs  
 
 Ok, either you are joking (but the wording doesn't make that very
 clear), or you are just one of those antimicrosoft idiot/trolls. If you
 were joking, then obviously the latter doesn't apply to you, though you
 might want to make the joke a little more evident...

Sarcasm and irony don't work if you have to explain them.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Does fuzzy logic tickle?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label

2010-05-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-05-14 8:23 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 14 May 2010 07:34:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
 AFAIK most laptops don't (yet) have 2TB disks, which is why Vista is 
 a poor choice for laptops. Vista needs most of a terabyte after
 installing all the bug fixes and service packs  

 Ok, either you are joking (but the wording doesn't make that very
 clear), or you are just one of those antimicrosoft idiot/trolls. If you
 were joking, then obviously the latter doesn't apply to you, though you
 might want to make the joke a little more evident...

 Sarcasm and irony don't work if you have to explain them.

It wasn't worded that way - as written, it was just plain dumb.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label

2010-05-13 Thread Stroller


On 12 May 2010, at 23:22, walt wrote:

On 05/08/2010 07:16 AM, claude angéloz wrote:

...
I installed a gentoo on a very recent system  (efi support) ...
I know that it is not required  an  efi partiton to boot the os with
pc/bios and gpt disk. Or is it false ?


I guarantee that some smart geek here will know how to do it, though  
you

may need to search around for the appropriate forum:

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/

BTW, why do you want to use gpt on a laptop?


I assumed it was a MacBook or a Hackintosh.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label

2010-05-13 Thread Mick
On Thursday 13 May 2010 22:08:44 Stroller wrote:
 On 12 May 2010, at 23:22, walt wrote:
  On 05/08/2010 07:16 AM, claude angéloz wrote:
  ...
  I installed a gentoo on a very recent system  (efi support) ...
  I know that it is not required  an  efi partiton to boot the os with
  pc/bios and gpt disk. Or is it false ?
 
  I guarantee that some smart geek here will know how to do it, though
  you
  may need to search around for the appropriate forum:
 
  http://www.boot-land.net/forums/
 
  BTW, why do you want to use gpt on a laptop?
 
 I assumed it was a MacBook or a Hackintosh.

I'm sure I've seen a Sony laptop running Vista that had an EFI boot.  I assume 
that this means it also had a GPT partition system?

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label

2010-05-13 Thread walt

On 05/13/2010 03:12 PM, Mick wrote:

On Thursday 13 May 2010 22:08:44 Stroller wrote:

On 12 May 2010, at 23:22, walt wrote:

On 05/08/2010 07:16 AM, claude angéloz wrote:

...
I installed a gentoo on a very recent system  (efi support) ...
I know that it is not required  an  efi partiton to boot the os with
pc/bios and gpt disk. Or is it false ?


I guarantee that some smart geek here will know how to do it, though
you
may need to search around for the appropriate forum:

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/

BTW, why do you want to use gpt on a laptop?


I assumed it was a MacBook or a Hackintosh.


I'm sure I've seen a Sony laptop running Vista that had an EFI boot.  I assume
that this means it also had a GPT partition system?


Hm.  The major benefit of GPT (IIUC) is support for 2TB partitions,

AFAIK most laptops don't (yet) have 2TB disks, which is why Vista is a poor
choice for laptops.  Vista needs most of a terabyte after installing all the
bug fixes and service packs -- and then you might want to consider installing
some programs.  It adds up fast!




[gentoo-user] Re: Boot gentoo with GTP Disk label

2010-05-12 Thread walt

On 05/08/2010 07:16 AM, claude angéloz wrote:

Hello,

I installed a gentoo on a very recent system  (efi support) . AT the
reception of the laptop  it was a disk label msdos, with a boot
partition w** installer ... I changed that against  a GPt disk label. I
can install without problem the gentoo , but now it doenst boot.

I read some docs about gpt,mbr,boot principles and tried some tools

- install the grub2 masked package and grub-install.

- a special partion bios_grub  as 1st bootable partition.
but actually no succesful...
but in the parted i did not see this bios_grub as  flag...

I found some  tips from the web , but i guess that was only valid for a
macintel system, not a normal pc  with a disk labeled gpt and an efi
support.

I know that it is not required  an  efi partiton to boot the os with
pc/bios and gpt disk. Or is it false ?


I guarantee that some smart geek here will know how to do it, though you
may need to search around for the appropriate forum:

http://www.boot-land.net/forums/

BTW, why do you want to use gpt on a laptop?