[gentoo-user] Re: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-18 Thread walt
On 03/17/2012 12:40 PM, pk wrote:
 On 2012-03-17 19:38, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 you know, with that 'put everything into /usr' crap going on, I don't see 
 any 
 reason to have a seperate /usr at all. /root is completely empty. So what? 
 Put 
 everything on one partition and go on.
 
 Yes, let's do away with partitions altogether, who needs them?

When I was in school the (Winchester) disk drives were the size of
a hotel mini-bar and the, um, diskettes the size of a stack of
four or five large pizza boxes which had to be carried with both
hands.

I never asked how much these toys cost, but I'm guessing it would
be roughly a year's salary for most people.  Now multiply that by
the number of partitions you need to mount simultaneously.

That was the reason for separate / and /usr back then -- the school
didn't want to buy multiple Winchesters when they could get the
sysadmin to swap multiple diskettes during bootup, and let the
student health service cover the cost of his hernia repair :p




[gentoo-user] Re: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 17/03/12 06:11, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote:

  This item just appeared after eix-sync:

HTPC ~ # eselect news read
2012-03-16-udev-181-unmasking
   Title udev-181 unmasking
   AuthorWilliam Hubbswilli...@gentoo.org
   Posted2012-03-16
   Revision  1

udev-181 is being unmasked on 2012-03-19.

This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of
udev=181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot your
system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr.

An initramfs which does this is created by

=sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.25.1 or
=sys-kernel/dracut-017-r1. If you do not want to use these tools, be

sure any initramfs you create pre-mounts /usr.

Also, if you are using OpenRC, you must upgrade to= openrc-0.9.9.

For more information on why this has been done, see the following URL:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken



Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon.

Houston, we have a problem!


No, we don't.  I hope systemd arrives soon.  It's the best init system I 
ever saw.





[gentoo-user] Re: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

2012-03-17 Thread »Q«
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 08:10:35 -0700
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

 4) I don't use a separate /usr so I don't need any of this. I suspect
 most casual Gentoo users like me are pretty much the same.
 
 4) I am going to look at doing a dual boot Gentoo install on some
 system here at home to try this out. Damn, I don't have time for this
 but what choice are they giving me.

4 ;)  If your /usr doesn't have its own partition, you shouldn't need
to sweat any of this.  AIUI, only people with separate /usr need to
either build an initrd or work out an alternative to udev.