Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag "unsupported" for "sci-libs/hdf5"

[Dr Rainer Woitok]

Netfab,

On Thursday, 2020-12-31 18:28:07 +0100, you wrote:

> ...
> > Anybody having an educated guess what the risk would be?   Is it save
> > to set a USE flag even if its name is "unsupported"?
> 
> Full story here :
> 
>   https://bugs.gentoo.org/710986

Hmmm, not very enlighting either.  I think I'll set "-threads" for this
package, just to be safe.

Sincerely,
  Rainer

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag "unsupported" for "sci-libs/hdf5"

[netfab]

Hi,

Le 31/12/20 à 17:54, Dr Rainer Woitok a tapoté :
> Anybody having an educated guess what the risk would be?   Is it save
> to set a USE flag even if its name is "unsupported"?

Full story here :

https://bugs.gentoo.org/710986

[gentoo-user] USE flag "unsupported" for "sci-libs/hdf5"

[Dr Rainer Woitok]

Greetings,

after  having decided to  globally set the "threads"  USE flag I get the
following:

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

!!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "sci-libs/hdf5[mpi]" has unmet requirements.
- sci-libs/hdf5-1.10.5-r1::gentoo USE="fortran hl mpi threads zlib -cxx -debug 
-examples -szip -unsupported" ABI_X86="(64)"

  The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
!unsupported? ( threads? ( !mpi !fortran !hl ) )

  The above constraints are a subset of the following complete expression:
!unsupported? ( at-most-one-of ( cxx mpi ) threads? ( !cxx !mpi !fortran 
!hl ) )

(dependency required by "sci-libs/flann-1.9.1-r3::gentoo[mpi]" [installed])
...

Since USE flag "mpi" is required by at least one other package, it seems
I have exactly two options:

   - Set "-threads" for this package thus leaving everything as is,

   - set "unsupported" for this package, without really knowing what the
 consequences would be.

Asking "equery" isn't really enlighting in this case, is it?

$ equery --no-color --no-pipe uses sci-libs/hdf5
[ Legend : U - final flag setting for installation]
[: I - package is installed with flag ]
[ Colors : set, unset ]
 * Found these USE flags for sci-libs/hdf5-1.10.5-r1:
 U I
 - - cxx : Build support for C++ (bindings, extra libraries, code
   generation, ...)
 - - debug   : Enable extra debug codepaths, like asserts and extra output.
   If you want to get meaningful backtraces see https://wiki.ge
   ntoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/Backtraces
 - - examples: Install examples, usually source code
 + + fortran : Add support for fortran
 + + hl  : Enable high level API
   (https://support.hdfgroup.org/HDF5/doc/HL/index.html) 
 + + mpi : Add MPI (Message Passing Interface) layer to the apps that
   support it
 - - szip: Use the szip compression library
 + - threads : Add threads support for various packages. Usually pthreads
 - - unsupported : Enable unsupported combinations of configuration options 
 + + zlib: Add support for zlib (de)compression
$

Anybody having an educated guess what the risk would be?   Is it save to
set a USE flag even if its name is "unsupported"?

Sincerely,
  Rainer

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 10:27:05 -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Thanks, that would make sense and it is a scenario I had not encountered
> before.

The theory seems to be borne out by the facts.

]% equery hasuse -p nocd
 * Searching for USE flag nocd ...
[-P-] [  ] games-action/descent3-1.4.0b-r2:0
[-P-] [ -] games-action/fakk2-1.02-r1:0
 
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, phredus wrote:
> 
> > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 08:36:10
> > From: phredus 
> > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd
> >
> > I remember in the olden days when we worked with smaller hard drives,
> > during installation you would be given the choice to install all the
> > files on the CD (meaning the program and the data) or just the files
> > needed to run the program. Later have to insert the CD to access the
> > rest of the data. MS Flight Sim did that with its multiple (7 CDs I
> > believe) data worth of world scenery. Maybe that is what it is
> > referring to.
> >
> >  
> > > On Nov 7, 2020, at 5:28 AM, Jude DaShiell 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, I read the description already and the description has me
> > > puzzled.
> > >
> > > On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, phredus wrote:
> > >  
> > >> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 07:35:52
> > >> From: phredus 
> > >> Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > >> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd
> > >>
> > >> nocd Install all files required to run the application
> > >> without a CD mounted.
> > >>
> > >> Here is the whole list:
> > >>
> > >> https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/
> > >> <https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/>
> > >>
> > >> Cheers
> > >>
> > >>  
> > >>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 4:31 AM, Jude DaShiell 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> What does it enable and what does it disable?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
> > >>> significant giving.
> > >>>
> > >>>  
> > >>
> > >>  
> > >
> > > --
> > > United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
> > > significant giving.
> > >
> > >  
> >
> >
> >  
> 




-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd

[Jude DaShiell]

Thanks, that would make sense and it is a scenario I had not encountered
before.

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, phredus wrote:

> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 08:36:10
> From: phredus 
> Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd
>
> I remember in the olden days when we worked with smaller hard drives, during 
> installation you would be given the choice to install all the files on the CD 
> (meaning the program and the data) or just the files needed to run the 
> program. Later have to insert the CD to access the rest of the data. MS 
> Flight Sim did that with its multiple (7 CDs I believe) data worth of world 
> scenery. Maybe that is what it is referring to.
>
>
> > On Nov 7, 2020, at 5:28 AM, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I read the description already and the description has me puzzled.
> >
> > On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, phredus wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 07:35:52
> >> From: phredus 
> >> Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> >> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> >> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd
> >>
> >> nocd   Install all files required to run the application without a CD 
> >> mounted.
> >>
> >> Here is the whole list:
> >>
> >> https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/ 
> >> <https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 4:31 AM, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What does it enable and what does it disable?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
> >>> significant giving.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
> > significant giving.
> >
> >
>
>
>

-- 
United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
significant giving.

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd

[Jude DaShiell]

No particular package just yet.  The most I could figure is for other
packages that require a CD be available if one isn't for whatever reason
you'll be able to at least start the package to check its capabilities.
I hope that's all this flag does.

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 10:17:08
> From: Neil Bothwick 
> Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd
>
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 08:28:44 -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>
> > Hi, I read the description already and the description has me puzzled.
>
> The exact effect of a USE flag can depend on the package using it. On
> which package are you considering it?
>
> >
> > On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, phredus wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 07:35:52
> > > From: phredus 
> > > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd
> > >
> > > nocd  Install all files required to run the application without
> > > a CD mounted.
> > >
> > > Here is the whole list:
> > >
> > > https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/
> > > <https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/>
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Nov 7, 2020, at 4:31 AM, Jude DaShiell 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What does it enable and what does it disable?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
> > > > significant giving.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
significant giving.

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 08:28:44 -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Hi, I read the description already and the description has me puzzled.

The exact effect of a USE flag can depend on the package using it. On
which package are you considering it?

> 
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, phredus wrote:
> 
> > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 07:35:52
> > From: phredus 
> > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd
> >
> > nocdInstall all files required to run the application without
> > a CD mounted.
> >
> > Here is the whole list:
> >
> > https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/
> > <https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/>
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >  
> > > On Nov 7, 2020, at 4:31 AM, Jude DaShiell 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > What does it enable and what does it disable?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
> > > significant giving.
> > >
> > >  
> >
> >  
> 




-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd

[phredus]

I remember in the olden days when we worked with smaller hard drives, during 
installation you would be given the choice to install all the files on the CD 
(meaning the program and the data) or just the files needed to run the program. 
Later have to insert the CD to access the rest of the data. MS Flight Sim did 
that with its multiple (7 CDs I believe) data worth of world scenery. Maybe 
that is what it is referring to.


> On Nov 7, 2020, at 5:28 AM, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I read the description already and the description has me puzzled.
> 
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, phredus wrote:
> 
>> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 07:35:52
>> From: phredus 
>> Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd
>> 
>> nocd Install all files required to run the application without a CD mounted.
>> 
>> Here is the whole list:
>> 
>> https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/ <https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/>
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 4:31 AM, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What does it enable and what does it disable?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
>>> significant giving.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
> significant giving.
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd

[Jude DaShiell]

Hi, I read the description already and the description has me puzzled.

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, phredus wrote:

> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 07:35:52
> From: phredus 
> Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd
>
> nocd  Install all files required to run the application without a CD mounted.
>
> Here is the whole list:
>
> https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/ <https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> > On Nov 7, 2020, at 4:31 AM, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> >
> > What does it enable and what does it disable?
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
> > significant giving.
> >
> >
>
>

-- 
United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
significant giving.

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd

[phredus]

nocdInstall all files required to run the application without a CD mounted.

Here is the whole list:

https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/ 

Cheers


> On Nov 7, 2020, at 4:31 AM, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> 
> What does it enable and what does it disable?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
> significant giving.
> 
> 

[gentoo-user] use flag nocd

[Jude DaShiell]

What does it enable and what does it disable?



-- 
United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual
significant giving.

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag 'split-usr' is now global

[Mick]

On Sunday, 4 August 2019 11:23:20 BST Kai Peter wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> now, upstream made the USE flag 'split-usr' global. This puts me a bit
> in a state of uncertainty :(.
> 
> What is the reason or goal behind this change? I did read something
> about the flag itself but it wasn't really clear to me. What does this
> mean:
> 
> "Enable behavior to support maintaining /bin and /lib separately from
> /usr/bin and /usr/lib"
> 
> Maybe I have overseen some documentation?
> 
> regards
> Kai

Have a look at this link, but there may be better explanations in the 
interwebs:

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge/

Essentially the historical reasons for having a lot of separate directories/
fs/partitions/disks are becoming obsolete and many of them are due to merge, 
changing the baselayout.  I assume the move to profile 17.1 to deal with the 
various /lib directories was the start.

-- 
Regards,

Mick

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[gentoo-user] USE flag 'split-usr' is now global

[Kai Peter]

Hi,

now, upstream made the USE flag 'split-usr' global. This puts me a bit 
in a state of uncertainty :(.


What is the reason or goal behind this change? I did read something 
about the flag itself but it wasn't really clear to me. What does this 
mean:


"Enable behavior to support maintaining /bin and /lib separately from 
/usr/bin and /usr/lib"


Maybe I have overseen some documentation?

regards
Kai

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[gentoo-user] USE flag enca

[Allan Gottlieb]

Today I received the following from my daily emerge --update

!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- media-libs/libass-0.9.11 (Change USE: +enca)
- media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc4_p20101107 (Change USE: -enca)

The instructions are clear enough, but how do I chose which alternative
to apply?

In use.local.desc I find for both entries
media-libs/libass:enca - Enables support for charset discovery and conversion.

So I guess the default is for mplayer to have that support and libass to
not have it.  But I am not sure what it is.  As far as I know I don't
have many charsets.  My locale.gen is just

en_US ISO-8859-1
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8

Any advice as to whether I should enable or disable the support would be
appreciated.

thanks,
allan

[gentoo-user] USE flag semantic-desktop

[CJoeB]

Hi,

I have been doing a bit of cleaning on my system - namely, removing kde
3.5 packages according to directions given via Gentoo documentation. 
After doing this, I ran revdep-rebuild (with --pretend) and found that
there were a lot of broken packages.  One of the problem packages was
krecipes.  I haven't updated this in quite a while.  When I tried to
reinstall it, I got the message that it wanted to downgrade kde-libs
from 4.3.5 to 4.3.3-r1 and I noticed that a use flag called
semantic-desktop was enabled.   I didn't do the install because I didn't
know if I should downgrade kde-libs.  Does anyone know what this use
flag is about and should I enable it in my make.conf?

Regards,

Colleen

-- 

Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org

[gentoo-user] use flag not used - why

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,

I'm trying to emerge sci-visualization/paraview
with a qt4 GUI.

My  /etc/portage/package.use  contains
sci-visualization/paraview examples qt4 threads python mpi


but when I try to emerge it
emerge -vp sci-visualization/paraview

I get
USE=examples mpi* python threads -doc -hdf5 (-qt4)

Why doesn't it work?

uname -a
Linux numa-be 2.6.29-gentoo-r3 #2 SMP Wed May 6 21:02:49 CEST 2009 x86_64 AMD 
Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux


Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why

[Albert Hopkins]

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 17:42 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to emerge sci-visualization/paraview
 with a qt4 GUI.
 
 My  /etc/portage/package.use  contains
 sci-visualization/paraview examples qt4 threads python mpi
 
 
 but when I try to emerge it
 emerge -vp sci-visualization/paraview
 
 I get
 USE=examples mpi* python threads -doc -hdf5 (-qt4)
 
 Why doesn't it work?

Per the emerge man page '()' means the USE flag is forced, masked, or
removed.

-a

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Dienstag 12 Mai 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm trying to emerge sci-visualization/paraview
 with a qt4 GUI.

 My  /etc/portage/package.use  contains
 sci-visualization/paraview examples qt4 threads python mpi


 but when I try to emerge it
 emerge -vp sci-visualization/paraview

 I get
 USE=examples mpi* python threads -doc -hdf5 (-qt4)

 Why doesn't it work?

 uname -a
 Linux numa-be 2.6.29-gentoo-r3 #2 SMP Wed May 6 21:02:49 CEST 2009 x86_64
 AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux


 Many thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.

sometimes certain useflags are masked - you can grep PORTDIR/profiles to see 
if that is your problem.

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 12 May, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Dienstag 12 Mai 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm trying to emerge sci-visualization/paraview
 with a qt4 GUI.

 My  /etc/portage/package.use  contains
 sci-visualization/paraview examples qt4 threads python mpi


 but when I try to emerge it
 emerge -vp sci-visualization/paraview

 I get
 USE=examples mpi* python threads -doc -hdf5 (-qt4)

 Why doesn't it work?

 uname -a
 Linux numa-be 2.6.29-gentoo-r3 #2 SMP Wed May 6 21:02:49 CEST 2009 x86_64
 AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux


 Many thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.
 
 sometimes certain useflags are masked - you can grep PORTDIR/profiles to see 
 if that is your problem.

Many thanks (to Albert, as well).
I didn't know about that.
How can I revert that mask (in /etc/portage/package.mask ?)
without editing /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/package.use.mask


-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 12 May 2009 19:06:23 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 12 May, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

  sometimes certain useflags are masked - you can grep PORTDIR/profiles to
  see if that is your problem.

 Many thanks (to Albert, as well).
 I didn't know about that.
 How can I revert that mask (in /etc/portage/package.mask ?)
 without editing /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/package.use.mask

You shouldn't, because it is highly unlikely to work right now. Flags are 
masked on arches for sound technical reasons, they are not mere optional 
defaults. /var/portage/profiles/default/linux/package.use.mask has this to 
say:

# Mask until Qt 4.4 works with this package, as we need to mask 4.3
# because of bug 248038. See also bug 243362.
sci-visualization/paraview qt4

So there you have it. The devs disabled qt4 support because paraview does not 
work with the unmasked versions of qt4 in portage

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why

[Dale]

Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 12 May 2009 19:06:23 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
   
 On 12 May, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 

   
 sometimes certain useflags are masked - you can grep PORTDIR/profiles to
 see if that is your problem.
   
 Many thanks (to Albert, as well).
 I didn't know about that.
 How can I revert that mask (in /etc/portage/package.mask ?)
 without editing /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/package.use.mask
 

 You shouldn't, because it is highly unlikely to work right now. Flags are 
 masked on arches for sound technical reasons, they are not mere optional 
 defaults. /var/portage/profiles/default/linux/package.use.mask has this to 
 say:

 # Mask until Qt 4.4 works with this package, as we need to mask 4.3
 # because of bug 248038. See also bug 243362.
 sci-visualization/paraview qt4

 So there you have it. The devs disabled qt4 support because paraview does not 
 work with the unmasked versions of qt4 in portage

   

Now you know he is going to want this even more since it is reported not
to work.  lol  Curiosity you know will get him.  If nothing else, he
will want to know what it breaks.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 12 May 2009 12:54:31 -0500, Dale wrote:

  How can I revert that mask (in /etc/portage/package.mask ?)
  without editing /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/package.use.mask

  So there you have it. The devs disabled qt4 support because paraview
  does not work with the unmasked versions of qt4 in portage

 Now you know he is going to want this even more since it is reported not
 to work.  lol  Curiosity you know will get him.  If nothing else, he
 will want to know what it breaks.  ;-)

In that case, put sci-visualization/paraview -qt4 in
/etc/postage/profile/package.use.mask and see for yourself how it
breaks.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

We secretly replaced the dilithium with Folgers Crystals


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Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 12 May 2009 19:54:31 Dale wrote:
 Now you know he is going to want this even more since it is reported not
 to work.  lol  Curiosity you know will get him.  If nothing else, he
 will want to know what it breaks.  ;-)

 Dale

Even better is if he fixes it, reports the fix, supplies a patch, which goes 
upstream, his name appears in the Changelog (street cred) and the whole world 
benefits :-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 12 May 2009 12:54:31 -0500, Dale wrote:

   
 How can I revert that mask (in /etc/portage/package.mask ?)
 without editing /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/package.use.mask
 

   
 So there you have it. The devs disabled qt4 support because paraview
 does not work with the unmasked versions of qt4 in portage
   

   
 Now you know he is going to want this even more since it is reported not
 to work.  lol  Curiosity you know will get him.  If nothing else, he
 will want to know what it breaks.  ;-)
 

 In that case, put sci-visualization/paraview -qt4 in
 /etc/postage/profile/package.use.mask and see for yourself how it
 breaks.


   

Oh, I didn't say I would do that.  I mostly run stable here.  Heck, I
have enough issues with stable packages.  I still can't get the new
xorg-server to work.  Long story.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why

[Dale]

Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 12 May 2009 19:54:31 Dale wrote:
   
 Now you know he is going to want this even more since it is reported not
 to work.  lol  Curiosity you know will get him.  If nothing else, he
 will want to know what it breaks.  ;-)

 Dale
 

 Even better is if he fixes it, reports the fix, supplies a patch, which goes 
 upstream, his name appears in the Changelog (street cred) and the whole world 
 benefits :-)

   

That would be nice, very nice.  Let's see if he takes the bait.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag not used - why

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 12 May, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 12 May 2009 12:54:31 -0500, Dale wrote:
 
  How can I revert that mask (in /etc/portage/package.mask ?)
  without editing /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/package.use.mask
 
  So there you have it. The devs disabled qt4 support because paraview
  does not work with the unmasked versions of qt4 in portage
 
 Now you know he is going to want this even more since it is reported not
 to work.  lol  Curiosity you know will get him.  If nothing else, he
 will want to know what it breaks.  ;-)
 
 In that case, put sci-visualization/paraview -qt4 in
 /etc/postage/profile/package.use.mask and see for yourself how it
 breaks.
 

Thanks!

I'd hoped it would perhaps work with qt-core-4.5.1 but it
requires 4.3.

Helmut.

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag question

[Sebastian Günther]

* »Q« ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [14.07.08 01:16]:
 A few days ago, I used eselect to switch profiles, from
 default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop to default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop.  
 

As I did...

 A lot of USE flags were removed from my make.conf, including
 the cpu-optimizations such as sse and mmx.  After re-compiling a few
 things and getting warnings from the ebuilds that video and audio 
 playback would be choppy without those flags, I put them back into my
 flags in make.conf.  If I use ufed to manage the flags, as I'm used to
 doing, it takes them back out when I save changes.
 

ufed is the bad guy, I think the stable version is not able to handle 
the new profile layout correctly.

 It seems strange to me that the profile switch should affect these
 flags.  I think I'm overlooking/misunderstanding something, but I'm
 not sure what to ask.  Any enlightenment (including links to
 enlightenment) would be appreciated.
 

Use ufed-0.40-r10 from ~ and your use flags are not getting removed.

HTH
Sebastian

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[gentoo-user] USE flag question

[»Q«]

A few days ago, I used eselect to switch profiles, from
default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop to default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop.  

A lot of USE flags were removed from my make.conf, including
the cpu-optimizations such as sse and mmx.  After re-compiling a few
things and getting warnings from the ebuilds that video and audio 
playback would be choppy without those flags, I put them back into my
flags in make.conf.  If I use ufed to manage the flags, as I'm used to
doing, it takes them back out when I save changes.

It seems strange to me that the profile switch should affect these
flags.  I think I'm overlooking/misunderstanding something, but I'm
not sure what to ask.  Any enlightenment (including links to
enlightenment) would be appreciated.

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[gentoo-user] USE flag mpm-prefork in apache

[Grant]

Apparently apache2 is built with mpm-prefork if no other mpm USE flag
is enabled, even if USE=-mpm-prefork is specified.  Wouldn't it be
better to either have the emerge fail and instruct the user to enable
an mpm or remove the mpm-prefork USE flag entirely?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Nick Rout]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:04:45 -0500
Jeremy Olexa wrote:

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 Nick Rout wrote:
  On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:30:26 +0530
  Aniruddha Shankar wrote:
  
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  Willie Wong wrote:
  Personally speaking, I suggest you emerge 'ufed'. 
  I moved from ufed to profuse, it's slightly better with multiple display
  interfaces (dialog/ncurses/gtk)
 
  cheers,
  
  funnily enough I dislike the gtk interface and usually start it with 
  
  DISPLAY= profuse
  
  to fool it into thinking X is not available, so it runs in my konsole
  
 
 Speaking of USE flags this is a PERFECT example of when to
 enable/disable a USE flag. If I was Nick and PREFERRED to start profuse
 without gtk support (aka ncurses) then I would re-emerge profuse WITHOUT
 the gtk USE flag. Thanks for giving some people an example of when to
 enable/disable USE flags, Nick.
 
 DISCLAIMER: I don't use profuse but I assume that the gtk USE flag does
 exactly what I have explained. ;)


You are right and I did think that as i was typing the email! However
there are times when i like the gtk interface, its more a mood thing, so I am 
happy to leave the gtk flag for that ebuild :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Jeremy Olexa]

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Ryan Tandy wrote:
 Jeremy Olexa wrote:
 without gtk support (aka ncurses) then I would re-emerge profuse WITHOUT
 
 Er... maybe I misunderstood something, but gtk and ncurses are two
 COMPLETELY different things.

right. that is what I meant. if you didn't want a gtk interface you
would end up using a ncurses interface ;) yes?

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Willie Wong]

On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 12:21:06PM -0500, Penguin Lover Jeremy Olexa squawked:
 Ryan Tandy wrote:
  Jeremy Olexa wrote:
  without gtk support (aka ncurses) then I would re-emerge profuse WITHOUT
  
  Er... maybe I misunderstood something, but gtk and ncurses are two
  COMPLETELY different things.
 
 right. that is what I meant. if you didn't want a gtk interface you
 would end up using a ncurses interface ;) yes?

Well, just to be pedantic ;) profuse can also fall back on a pure
'dialog' based interface if you set -gtk and -ncurses. 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Ryan Tandy]

Jeremy Olexa wrote:

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Ryan Tandy wrote:

Jeremy Olexa wrote:

without gtk support (aka ncurses) then I would re-emerge profuse WITHOUT

Er... maybe I misunderstood something, but gtk and ncurses are two
COMPLETELY different things.


right. that is what I meant. if you didn't want a gtk interface you
would end up using a ncurses interface ;) yes?



Ah, my misinterpretation.  I thought you meant that GTK == ncurses, 
rather than (!GTK) == ncurses.


Sorry all for the wasted bandwidth. ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Jure Varlec]

On Thursday 29 June 2006 06:49, Ryan Tandy wrote:
 Er... maybe I misunderstood something, but gtk and ncurses are two
 COMPLETELY different things.

Well, they are both libraries for creating user interfaces. GTK uses X, 
ncurses uses a terminal. And if Nick prefers to run profuse in the console, 
he really doesn't need GTK support.
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Jure Varlec]

On Thursday 29 June 2006 09:03, Jure Varlec wrote:
 On Thursday 29 June 2006 06:49, Ryan Tandy wrote:
  Er... maybe I misunderstood something, but gtk and ncurses are two
  COMPLETELY different things.

 Well, they are both libraries for creating user interfaces. GTK uses X,
 ncurses uses a terminal. And if Nick prefers to run profuse in the console,
 he really doesn't need GTK support.

Sorry, didn't pay attention to what you quoted. Apologies.
 without gtk support (aka ncurses)

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[David Corbin]

On Thursday 29 June 2006 12:04 am, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
 Nick Rout wrote:
  On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:30:26 +0530
 
  Aniruddha Shankar wrote:
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  Willie Wong wrote:
  Personally speaking, I suggest you emerge 'ufed'.
 
  I moved from ufed to profuse, it's slightly better with multiple display
  interfaces (dialog/ncurses/gtk)
 
  cheers,
 
  funnily enough I dislike the gtk interface and usually start it with
 
  DISPLAY= profuse
 
  to fool it into thinking X is not available, so it runs in my konsole

 Speaking of USE flags this is a PERFECT example of when to
 enable/disable a USE flag. If I was Nick and PREFERRED to start profuse
 without gtk support (aka ncurses) then I would re-emerge profuse WITHOUT
 the gtk USE flag. Thanks for giving some people an example of when to
 enable/disable USE flags, Nick.


and what is the correct way to disable the -gtk flag for all future emerges of 
a particular ebuild?

Thanks.
David
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:46:07 -0400, David Corbin wrote:

 and what is the correct way to disable the -gtk flag for all future
 emerges of a particular ebuild?

echo cate-gory/package -gtk /etc/portage/package.use

man portage for more info.


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 Personally speaking, I suggest you emerge 'ufed'. 

I moved from ufed to profuse, it's slightly better with multiple display
interfaces (dialog/ncurses/gtk)

cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Willie Wong]

On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 11:30:26AM +0530, Penguin Lover Aniruddha Shankar 
squawked:
 Willie Wong wrote:
  
  Personally speaking, I suggest you emerge 'ufed'. 
 
 I moved from ufed to profuse, it's slightly better with multiple display
 interfaces (dialog/ncurses/gtk)
 

I've tried both, and I didn't really find much difference between the
tools. Care to elucidate on why profuse is better? (Or do you mean
that it is better because it supports multiple display interfaces?)
[I am not trying to start a flamewar. If there is some feature of
profuse that I didn't know about that is useful and not present for
ufed, I'd like to find out.]

I think I ended up using ufed because it got support for the -* flag
first. 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[sean]

Willie Wong wrote:

On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 11:30:26AM +0530, Penguin Lover Aniruddha Shankar 
squawked:

Willie Wong wrote:
Personally speaking, I suggest you emerge 'ufed'. 

I moved from ufed to profuse, it's slightly better with multiple display
interfaces (dialog/ncurses/gtk)



I've tried both, and I didn't really find much difference between the
tools. Care to elucidate on why profuse is better? (Or do you mean
that it is better because it supports multiple display interfaces?)
[I am not trying to start a flamewar. If there is some feature of
profuse that I didn't know about that is useful and not present for
ufed, I'd like to find out.]

I think I ended up using ufed because it got support for the -* flag
first. 


W


They both like interesting, I did see some screen shots of profuse, does 
ufed operate the same?


Thanks
Sean
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Wednesday 28 June 2006 22:29, sean wrote:
 They both like interesting, I did see some screen shots of profuse, does
 ufed operate the same?

Emerge them and see for yourself. They are really minor...

# genlop -t profuse
 * app-portage/profuse

 Wed Jun 28 22:39:56 2006  app-portage/profuse-0.25.4
   merge time: 6 seconds.

# genlop -t ufed
 * app-portage/ufed

 Sun Jun  4 09:51:59 2006  app-portage/ufed-0.40-r3
   merge time: 15 seconds.

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Nick Rout]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:30:26 +0530
Aniruddha Shankar wrote:

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 Willie Wong wrote:
  
  Personally speaking, I suggest you emerge 'ufed'. 
 
 I moved from ufed to profuse, it's slightly better with multiple display
 interfaces (dialog/ncurses/gtk)
 
 cheers,

funnily enough I dislike the gtk interface and usually start it with 

DISPLAY= profuse

to fool it into thinking X is not available, so it runs in my konsole


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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Jeremy Olexa]

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Nick Rout wrote:
 On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:30:26 +0530
 Aniruddha Shankar wrote:
 
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 Willie Wong wrote:
 Personally speaking, I suggest you emerge 'ufed'. 
 I moved from ufed to profuse, it's slightly better with multiple display
 interfaces (dialog/ncurses/gtk)

 cheers,
 
 funnily enough I dislike the gtk interface and usually start it with 
 
 DISPLAY= profuse
 
 to fool it into thinking X is not available, so it runs in my konsole
 

Speaking of USE flags this is a PERFECT example of when to
enable/disable a USE flag. If I was Nick and PREFERRED to start profuse
without gtk support (aka ncurses) then I would re-emerge profuse WITHOUT
the gtk USE flag. Thanks for giving some people an example of when to
enable/disable USE flags, Nick.

DISCLAIMER: I don't use profuse but I assume that the gtk USE flag does
exactly what I have explained. ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Ryan Tandy]

Jeremy Olexa wrote:

without gtk support (aka ncurses) then I would re-emerge profuse WITHOUT


Er... maybe I misunderstood something, but gtk and ncurses are two 
COMPLETELY different things.

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[gentoo-user] USE flag

[sean]

I would like to fine tune my USE flags a bit more and have a question.

Currently I am emerging gaim, and as it proceeds I see gnome and
evolution related items across the screen.

I am not running gnome desktop or evolution and could a -gnome and
-evolution be placed in USE and would it cause any problems?

I am not a big fan of gnome but some things I use, gaim for example
seems to be tied to gnome. Can I filter it out without causing problems
for some apps that may be tied to gnome.

Thanks
Sean
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag

[Willie Wong]

On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 10:44:35PM -0400, Penguin Lover sean squawked:
 I would like to fine tune my USE flags a bit more and have a question.
 
 Currently I am emerging gaim, and as it proceeds I see gnome and
 evolution related items across the screen.
 
 I am not running gnome desktop or evolution and could a -gnome and
 -evolution be placed in USE and would it cause any problems?

What you want, is to disable the eds use flag (USE=-eds). It enables
support fo evolution data server, which, if you are not using
evolution or gnome, is not terribly useful. 

It might be a good idea to also have -gnome in your USE if you do not
use gnome at all. It shouldn't cause any problems. Anything that
explicitly depends on gnome would still bring in the needed libraries,
it is only stuff that have an optional dependency on gnome that would
get affected. 

Personally speaking, I suggest you emerge 'ufed'. It is a useflag
editor based on ncurses. It also displays a description of each flag.
Then I suggest that you go through the entire list and mark off the
ones you want and unmark the ones you don't want. It should be a
one-time affair, and could potentially save you lots of time later. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag oddity

[Alexander Skwar]

Kevin O'Gorman wrote:


I noticed that as constituted, I would see firefox and thunderbird
differing on the flag mozcalendar.  It seemed like something I would
like, however, so I tried putting the flag into 
/etc/portage/package.keywords:


Why did you use that file? What made you use this file, and not some
other file?

but the subsequent emerge shows that this does not avoid the situation: 
notice

that TB has +moscalendar, but FB has -mozcalendar.


Sure. That's to be expected.


Call me confused...


Well, I rather call the manual page of portage upon you... And
there, you should read the package.keywords section and the
section directly following that.

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[gentoo-user] USE flag oddity

[Kevin O'Gorman]

I don't know what I'm doing. It seems wise to admit that at the start.
Nobody needs to rub my nose in it that way.

I noticed that as constituted, I would see firefox and thunderbird
differing on the flag mozcalendar. It seemed like something I would
like, however, so I tried putting the flag into /etc/portage/package.keywords:

mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird mozcalendar
www-client/mozilla-firefox mozcalendar

but the subsequent emerge shows that this does not avoid the situation: notice
that TB has +moscalendar, but FB has -mozcalendar.[ebuild
R ] mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.8 -debug
+gnome* +ipv6 +ldap +mozcalendar -moznoxft +truetype -xinerama -xprint
0 kB
[ebuild R ]
www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.0.8 -debug +gnome* +ipv6 +java
-mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznoxft -mozsvg +truetype -xinerama -xprint
0 kB

Call me confused...


--Kevin O'Gorman

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag oddity

[Benno Schulenberg]

Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 I noticed that as constituted, I would see firefox and
 thunderbird differing on the flag mozcalendar.  It seemed like
 something I would like, however, so I tried putting the flag into
 /etc/portage/package.keywords:

 mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird mozcalendar
 www-client/mozilla-firefox mozcalendar

They should go into /etc/portage/package.use.

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag order confusion

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:54:59 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

 Using it on the emerge command line has the desired effect.  That is,
 USE=-sasl emerge -v -p sendmail  shows `-sasl' as expected.
 
 Why doesn't it work with the entry in /etc/make.conf?

What do you get from

grep sasl /etc/portage/package.use


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[gentoo-user] USE flag order confusion

[Harry Putnam]

I want to use a global USE flag of -sasl in make.conf.

However when I use it there it has no effect on emerges of things that
it should effect:

I don't have actual output from the commands below because I'm in the
throws of an install from scratch and have only ftp for remote access
so far.

cat /etc/make.conf
  CFLAGS=-Os -march=pentium4 -pipe
  CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
  CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
  USE=mysql tetex symlinks kde qt dvd alsa cdr -imap -maildir -sasl
  GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/ 
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/ 
ftp://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/gentoo/;

Used like this  I still see a `+sasl' when I emerge -v -p  sendmail.

Using it on the emerge command line has the desired effect.  That is,
USE=-sasl emerge -v -p sendmail  shows `-sasl' as expected.

Why doesn't it work with the entry in /etc/make.conf?

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[gentoo-user] USE flag vhosts

[Dan Johansson]

Hi,

Can someone give me a short explanation (or link) what difference the vhosts 
flag do to my web-apps?

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