[gentoo-user] ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card
I have a new sony lappy with a ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card. Should I be using the in kernel (2.6.16-r3) drivers or the builds in portage? Is the a configuration guide for this setup on gentoo? BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card
On Friday, May 5 2006 22:14, William Kenworthy wrote: I have a new sony lappy with a ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card. Should I be using the in kernel (2.6.16-r3) drivers or the builds in portage? Is the a configuration guide for this setup on gentoo? BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home! I recommend the in-kernel drivers, simply because they are much more convenient and easier to get working. Just configure it like any other wireless device, there is a section in the handbook on wireless networking iirc. Otherwise there is plenty of information in /etc/conf.d/net.example and /etc/conf.d/wireless.example. Also, you'll need to emerge ipw2200-firmware regardless of whether you use the in-kernel or external driver, firmware-2.4 is needed for the in-kernel driver and firmware-3.0 is needed for the external driver, they are slotted so both firmwares can coexist nicely. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card
Bill, William Kenworthy wrote: I have a new sony lappy with a ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card. Should I be using the in kernel (2.6.16-r3) drivers or the builds in portage? Is the a configuration guide for this setup on gentoo? You want the portage builds. I'm going by memory (laptop is at home, I'm at work) but there are three things to emerge: ieee80211, ipw2200 and ipw2200-firmware. (The names might be a little off...) In any case, the 802.11 ebuild will check your kernel config tell you if there is a problem with your config, and how to deal with it by running a (provided) script. Nice easy! Sorry my note isn't crisp on details, but I'm sure others will correct my fuzzy memory if I've left out anything. Good luck, Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card
On Friday 05 May 2006 08:44, William Kenworthy wrote: I have a new sony lappy with a ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card. Should I be using the in kernel (2.6.16-r3) drivers or the builds in portage? Is the a configuration guide for this setup on gentoo? Some will say in kernel, some will say use ebuilds. Honestly i'm not sure of the difference. I use the ebuilds, like so: 1) emerge ieee80211 . it will probably tell you that you need to run a script, and fail until you do so. Do what it asks, then merge it again and it will work 2) emerge ipw2200 ipw2200-firmware 3) have the module ipw2200 loaded at boot and you're set As far as a guide I'm not sure. The only drawback of doing it this way, is that when you change kernels, you have to do the above again. -- When you walk across the fields with your mind pure and holy, then from all the stones, and all growing things, and all animals, the sparks of their soul come out and cling to you. And then they are purified, and become a holy fire in you. -- Ancient Hasidic Saying -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card
Thanks, as the in-kernel ones didnt work, I'll try the external. BillK On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 09:07 -0400, Mike Markowski wrote: Bill, William Kenworthy wrote: I have a new sony lappy with a ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card. Should I be using the in kernel (2.6.16-r3) drivers or the builds in portage? Is the a configuration guide for this setup on gentoo? You want the portage builds. I'm going by memory (laptop is at home, I'm at work) but there are three things to emerge: ieee80211, ipw2200 and ipw2200-firmware. (The names might be a little off...) In any case, the 802.11 ebuild will check your kernel config tell you if there is a problem with your config, and how to deal with it by running a (provided) script. Nice easy! Sorry my note isn't crisp on details, but I'm sure others will correct my fuzzy memory if I've left out anything. Good luck, Mike -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 fire-eyes wrote: On Friday 05 May 2006 08:44, William Kenworthy wrote: I have a new sony lappy with a ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card. Should I be using the in kernel (2.6.16-r3) drivers or the builds in portage? Is the a configuration guide for this setup on gentoo? Some will say in kernel, some will say use ebuilds. Honestly i'm not sure of the difference. Does anyone really know what the difference is? I originally used the ebuilds because I could only assume that they will be more up to date. But now I realize that new kernels come out pretty quick so I don't think this is the case. Anyone have insight? Back on topic, ditto what fire-eyes said. No guide needed it is pretty simple. - -- Jeremy Olexa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Office: EE/CS 1-201 CS/IT Systems Staff University of Minnesota -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEW1ihFN7pD9kMi/URAoPGAJ9LspCbN0TsAjQOxwjwuupiNia9zwCdEW1F GRqfWW/ki/v0sUW0UUp5NWo= =2RF+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card
On Friday, May 5 2006 23:22, Jeremy Olexa wrote: Does anyone really know what the difference is? I originally used the ebuilds because I could only assume that they will be more up to date. But now I realize that new kernels come out pretty quick so I don't think this is the case. Anyone have insight? The ebuilds are more up to date. The in-kernel ipw2200 (as of 2.6.16) is based on version 1.0.8. kernel 2.6.17 features an even newer version. Using the ebuild means that you must remove ieee80211 from the kernel, which from what i understand means that you can no longer use any of the other wireless drivers which require it in the kernel. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card
William Kenworthy schrieb: Thanks, as the in-kernel ones didnt work, I'll try the external. BillK Hm, did you compile the in-kernel ipw2200-driver as a kernel module? If the driver is built-in, it will not work, because the driver cannot load its firmware before the kernel has booted. As others told before, you need the ipw2200-firmware too, even if you use the kernel-module. I stick to the kernel module, just because I don't have to remerge the driver after installing a new kernel. Furthermore its the more cleaner way in my opinion. You don't have to patch the kernel-sources like you have to do by using the ieee80211-package. Regards Christian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card
On Friday 05 May 2006 15:52, Jeremy Olexa wrote: Does anyone really know what the difference is? I originally used the ebuilds because I could only assume that they will be more up to date. But now I realize that new kernels come out pretty quick so I don't think this is the case. Anyone have insight? For me, both worked well for normal usage. However, the in-kernel drivers didn't support monitor mode too well (or at all), i.e. kismet didn't work. I think firmware was the real culprit, but I'm not sure. Anyways, ebuild drivers and firmware 3.0 work perfectly. pgpbSzq0dwfYI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card
On Friday 05 May 2006 08:23, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card': On Friday 05 May 2006 08:44, William Kenworthy wrote: I have a new sony lappy with a ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card. Should I be using the in kernel (2.6.16-r3) drivers or the builds in portage? Is the a configuration guide for this setup on gentoo? Check out linux-on-laptops and you may find a guide that's fairly specific to your model of laptop -- it might not get Gentoo oriented but it may point you in the right direction, and this list may be able to translate as direction into Gentoo-ese if you have specific questions. Some will say in kernel, some will say use ebuilds. Honestly i'm not sure of the difference. Separate maintenance. The kernel version usually lags behind a version or two, but is (generally) more stable and will be patched as needed when the kernel changes by the kernel developers. The separately maintained version is the original project and where most real development goes, but if the kernel developers change something that affects the module it doesn't get patched by them. ALSA is similar. There a number of of hardware support projects that do something similar, though sometimes one a driver get into the kernel the original project is disbanded and we get more kernel developers. (Of course, I'm sure some ALSA/ipw2[12]00 developers are kernel developers as well.) In general these projects have a good rapport with the kernel developers and patches, particularly bugfixes, move across trees fairly fluidly. I use the ebuilds, like so: 1) emerge ieee80211 . it will probably tell you that you need to run a script, and fail until you do so. Do what it asks, then merge it again and it will work 2) emerge ipw2200 ipw2200-firmware 3) have the module ipw2200 loaded at boot and you're set The only drawback of doing it this way, is that when you change kernels, you have to do the above again. You might also try the module-rebuild package. I use this to recompile my nvidia and kqemu kernel modules against a new /usr/src/linux symlink. Also #3 should be able to be done in a way so that you don't have to do it again with a new kernel. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgp87EYWyxc8R.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw2200 chipset mini wireless card
On Saturday, May 6 2006 5:41, Jure Varlec wrote: For me, both worked well for normal usage. However, the in-kernel drivers didn't support monitor mode too well (or at all), i.e. kismet didn't work. I think firmware was the real culprit, but I'm not sure. Anyways, ebuild drivers and firmware 3.0 work perfectly. They do support monitor mode, it was just that the option to enable it was not present. The latest gentoo-sources and 2.6.17 allow you to enable it. Yes firmware 2.4 was buggy with the monitor mode, but that doesn't matter for normal operation. Also in my experience the bugginess was nothing more than dmesg filling up with firmware restarting messages, otherwise it all seemed to work perfectly fine. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
