Re: [gentoo-user] unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 06/08/2015 09:55 PM, Stroller wrote:
 
 On Mon, 8 June 2015, at 2:25 pm, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com
 wrote:
 ... So I just ran across this word emeried and I can only find
 emory. I think emeried is obscure in both meaning and usage.
 
 My 1970's copy of the 24-volume Oxford English Dictionary says that
 emery as a verb is to rub with emery (e.g. emery paper, I guess).
 
 So I guess an example sentence would be before the panel can be
 repainted, it must be emeried until all traces of the paint have been
 removed.
 
 I agree this is obscure - I had to look it up, and my Mac's
 Dictionary.app doesn't contain it, either.
 
Not really obscure. Emery paper is a standard type of sandpaper.
Emeried would fall under the same as sanded - sandpaper, buffed -
buffer, garrotted - garrotte, crapped - crap. But then again, I'm a
Structural Engineer/programmer not a linguist and technically failed
year 12 English :)

Andrew



[gentoo-user] unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread James
OK,

So I just ran across this word emeried and I can only find emory.
I think emeried is obscure in both meaning and usage. Where do
I find help? It may not be an actual word, or one of those rare middle
english or french vesticals of a word?

Also, while we are at it, my seamonkey marks words as mispelled,
but there is not a spellchecker function to fix the mistakes,
so what am I missing in seamonkey ( I run lxde, if that matters).
If it's an addon I need, suggests as to the best (most complete)
usa english would be welcome information. An unabridged english
dictionary, even if from the right side of the pond, would be keen
to integrate into seamonkey.

Q? (if my memory is correct?)


James




Re: [gentoo-user] unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread Stroller

On Mon, 8 June 2015, at 2:25 pm, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 ...
 So I just ran across this word emeried and I can only find emory.
 I think emeried is obscure in both meaning and usage. 

My 1970's copy of the 24-volume Oxford English Dictionary says that emery as a 
verb is to rub with emery (e.g. emery paper, I guess).

So I guess an example sentence would be before the panel can be repainted, it 
must be emeried until all traces of the paint have been removed.

I agree this is obscure - I had to look it up, and my Mac's Dictionary.app 
doesn't contain it, either.

Are you trying to fix the dictionary? I have often felt Unix /usr/share/dict 
contains many words so obscure (or obsolete) as to be useless, but it seems to 
me this not only needs to be addressed upstream, but it's also pretty much a 
fulltime job for someone.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread Philip Webb
150608 James wrote:
 So I just ran across this word emeried and I can only find emory.

Others have pointed out that it's a verb from 'emery', an abrasive.

 Where do I find help ?

I always use  http://dictionary.reference.com/ ,
which is also good for etymology, sometimes important for English meanings.
In this case, it offered a long list of possible words, incl 'emeries',
which is the 3rd singular of the verb above.

The OED is the ultimate source for English words, incl eg US usages.
It's not free to the general user, but you can usually find access
or you can buy it in some CD/DVD form.

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Re: [gentoo-user] unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
James wrote:

 Also, while we are at it, my seamonkey marks words as mispelled,
 but there is not a spellchecker function to fix the mistakes,
 so what am I missing in seamonkey ( I run lxde, if that matters).
 If it's an addon I need, suggests as to the best (most complete)
 usa english would be welcome information. An unabridged english
 dictionary, even if from the right side of the pond, would be keen
 to integrate into seamonkey.


To get spell checking working for my native language I had to install 
the dictionary from seamonkey (Edit-Preferences-Appearence-Spelling, 
then from the Language field choose 'Download more dictionaries...'). I 
also have an English US/UK dictionary which I don't remember installing 
so I suppose it's part of the default SM (non-bin) package. In composer 
I switch between languages with CTRL-SHIFT-P. I also run LXDE.

I have the default Gentoo spell checkers installed for OpenOffice, I 
don't know if that matters for SM (hunspell, myspell-en, myspell-it).

raffaele

# eix -I seamonkey
[I] www-client/seamonkey
  Available versions:  2.32 (~)2.33 2.33.1-r1 {+chatzilla +crypt 
custom-cflags custom-optimization dbus debug +gmp-autoupdate gstreamer 
+ipc +jit minimal pulseaudio +roaming selinux startup-notification 
system-cairo system-icu system-jpeg system-libvpx system-sqlite test 
wifi LINGUAS=be ca cs de en_GB es_AR es_ES fi fr gl hu it ja lt nb_NO 
nl pl pt_PT ru sk sv_SE tr uk zh_CN zh_TW}
  Installed versions:  2.33.1-r1(06:46:34 AM 05/14/2015)(crypt dbus 
gmp-autoupdate ipc startup-notification -chatzilla -custom-cflags 
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -minimal -pulseaudio -roaming 
-selinux -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx 
-system-sqlite -test -wifi LINGUAS=it -be -ca -cs -de -en_GB -es_AR 
-es_ES -fi -fr -gl -hu -ja -lt -nb_NO -nl -pl -pt_PT -ru -sk -sv_SE -tr 
-uk -zh_CN -zh_TW)
  Homepage:http://www.seamonkey-project.org
  Description: Seamonkey Web Browser

# eix -I spell
[I] app-dicts/myspell-en
  Available versions:  20081002
  Installed versions:  20081002(07:11:38 PM 05/26/2012)
  Homepage:http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/
  Description: English dictionaries for myspell/hunspell

[I] app-dicts/myspell-it
  Available versions:  20081129-r1
  Installed versions:  20081129-r1(08:12:04 AM 06/21/2012)
  Homepage:http://sourceforge.net/projects/linguistico/
  Description: Italian dictionaries for myspell/hunspell

[U] app-text/gtkspell
  Available versions:
  (2)2.0.16
  (3)3.0.4(3/0)
{+introspection vala}
  Installed versions:  2.0.16(2)(01:18:27 PM 12/14/2012)
  Homepage:http://gtkspell.sourceforge.net/
  Description: Spell checking widget for GTK

[I] app-text/hunspell
  Available versions:  1.3.3 {ncurses nls readline static-libs 
LINGUAS=af bg ca cs cy da de el en eo es et fo fr ga gl he hr hu ia id 
is it km ku lt lv mk ms nb nl nn pl pt pt_BR ro ru sk sl sq sv sw tn uk zu}
  Installed versions:  1.3.3(09:09:54 PM 08/04/2014)(ncurses nls 
readline -static-libs LINGUAS=en it -af -bg -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -eo 
-es -et -fo -fr -ga -gl -he -hr -hu -ia -id -is -km -ku -lt -lv -mk -ms 
-nb -nl -nn -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -sk -sl -sq -sv -sw -tn -uk -zu)
  Homepage:http://hunspell.sourceforge.net/
  Description: Hunspell spell checker - an improved 
replacement for myspell in OOo