Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-20 Thread Dale 
Dan Farrell wrote:
 On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:29:12 +0800
 Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 direct rendering: No
 

 there it is, third line.  
 Hey, looks like I have the same problem!  Perhaps we can figure it out
 together.  
 | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation
 | 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
 | direct rendering: No
   

Well, I'm a Nvidia person myself but I did a little nosing around for
ya.  Maybe this will help:  x11-drivers/xf86-video-i810 

Also, don't forget to set VIDEO_CARDS=i810 which may pull in the
package above as a dependancy, I think.

And some neat info on the kernel config: 

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-557149-highlight-i810+driver.html

Hope some of that helps.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-20 Thread Dan Farrell 
On Sat, 19 May 2007 23:40:27 -0500
Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:29:12 +0800
 Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  direct rendering: No
 
 there it is, third line.  
 Hey, looks like I have the same problem!  Perhaps we can figure it out
 together.  

The kernel configuration (at least menuconfig, which I use) has 

| Device Drivers  ---  Character devices  --- 
| * Direct Rendering Manager
|   MIntel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G
| M   i830 driver
| M   i915 driver

If you can't tell for formatting, i[0-9]{3} are in the category `Intel
830M...  I had originally compiled them in, and you can only include
one or the other in the kernel.  I had chosen the i830. It was the wrong
choice -- an easy mistake, considering both list the 845G as supported
and the 830 happens to be first. 
I recommend, if you haven't yet, compiling the kernel with the
Intel drm drivers as modules.  X will load the right one.  In
retrospect, the kernel help messege told me how.
For what it's worth, you'll also have to have in xorg.conf:

| Section Module
| Load  glx
|Load  dri
|   ...
| EndSection
| 
| Section DRI
|   Mode0666
| EndSection

And now the third line of glxinfo should show 'Yes'
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ glxinfo | grep direct
| direct rendering: Yes
and your glxgears will be nice and smooth, and, in my case, 67%
faster.  

Good luck. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-20 Thread Chuanwen Wu 

2007/5/20, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Dan Farrell wrote:
 On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:29:12 +0800
Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 direct rendering: No

 there it is, third line.
Hey, looks like I have the same problem! Perhaps we can figure it out
together.
| 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation
| 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
| direct rendering: No


 Well, I'm a Nvidia person myself but I did a little nosing around for ya.
Maybe this will help:  x11-drivers/xf86-video-i810

 Also, don't forget to set VIDEO_CARDS=i810 which may pull in the package
above as a dependancy, I think.

 And some neat info on the kernel config:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-557149-highlight-i810+driver.html

 Hope some of that helps.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)



Thank you for your advice! I have use xf86-i810 driver and  now my
kernel config is the same as what you showed in the link.But still not
work.

$ glxinfo | grep rendering
direct rendering: No

And I open the game neverputt,it's still so slow.

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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-20 Thread Dale 
Chuanwen Wu wrote:


 Thank you for your advice! I have use xf86-i810 driver and  now my
 kernel config is the same as what you showed in the link.But still not
 work.

 $ glxinfo | grep rendering
 direct rendering: No

 And I open the game neverputt,it's still so slow.



It looks like Dan has the same card.  Check his email and try what he
has posted.  If he works for him, you should have similar results. 
Maybe what I found is just a start.  :-(

Hope you get it going.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-20 Thread Zachary Grafton 
On Sunday 20 May 2007 02:19, Dale wrote:
 Dan Farrell wrote:
  On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:29:12 +0800
 
  Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  direct rendering: No
 
  there it is, third line.
  Hey, looks like I have the same problem!  Perhaps we can figure it out
  together.
 
  | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation
  | 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
  | direct rendering: No

 Well, I'm a Nvidia person myself but I did a little nosing around for
 ya.  Maybe this will help:  x11-drivers/xf86-video-i810

 Also, don't forget to set VIDEO_CARDS=i810 which may pull in the
 package above as a dependancy, I think.

 And some neat info on the kernel config:

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-557149-highlight-i810+driver.html

 Hope some of that helps.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)

I have a similar card, the 855GM and I was using the xf86-video-i810 package 
for a while without any problems, but after a recent update there was no way 
to get Direct Rendering working.  I switched back to using the kernel modules 
and it started working correctly.  Remember, if you use the xf86-video-i810 
package that you have to rebuild after every kernel rebuild and sometimes 
you'll also have to re-emerge the x11-drm package as well.  Also, a mesa 
upgrade had broken my direct rendering and a downgrade fixed it.  Another 
problem I had was leaving the Direct Rendering Manager option selected in the 
kernel config, but I had the xf86-video-i810 package installed, and that 
doesn't work as far as I know because of the different versions of agpgart.  
There are a ton of howtos available for the Intel cards, I'd recommend trying 
one at a time until you get it working.

A good command line for a quick check is  glx-info | grep direct


Good Luck,

Zack Grafton
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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-20 Thread Dale 
Zachary Grafton wrote:


 A good command line for a quick check is  glx-info | grep direct


 Good Luck,

 Zack Grafton
   

I think you have a typo.  It should be glxinfo | grep direct without
the quotes of course.  That worked on my system at least.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-20 Thread Zachary Grafton 
On Sunday 20 May 2007 03:45, Dale wrote:
 Zachary Grafton wrote:
  A good command line for a quick check is  glx-info | grep direct
 
 
  Good Luck,
 
  Zack Grafton

 I think you have a typo.  It should be glxinfo | grep direct without
 the quotes of course.  That worked on my system at least.

 Dale

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:) Sorry, it's late here.  At least you understood what I meant.  There just 
seems to be a lot of problems with the intel cards.  I've had this one for a 
while and I shudder at the thought of upgrading the kernel for fear of 
breaking my direct rendering.

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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-20 Thread Dan Farrell 
On Sun, 20 May 2007 04:06:28 -0400
Zachary Grafton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 20 May 2007 03:45, Dale wrote:
  Zachary Grafton wrote:
   A good command line for a quick check is  glx-info | grep direct
  
  
   Good Luck,
  
   Zack Grafton
 
  I think you have a typo.  It should be glxinfo | grep direct
  without the quotes of course.  That worked on my system at least.
 
  Dale
 
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 :) Sorry, it's late here.  At least you understood what I meant.
 There just seems to be a lot of problems with the intel cards.  I've
 had this one for a while and I shudder at the thought of upgrading
 the kernel for fear of breaking my direct rendering.
 
 Zack
Frankly, indirect rendering isn't much worse.  For me, xine now uses
15%+ of processor instead of 20%+.  But, to be fair, it's a diskless
system so processor has to do extra work for nfs and such.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-20 Thread Chuanwen Wu 

2007/5/20, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Sat, 19 May 2007 23:40:27 -0500
Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:29:12 +0800
 Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  direct rendering: No

 there it is, third line.
 Hey, looks like I have the same problem!  Perhaps we can figure it out
 together.

The kernel configuration (at least menuconfig, which I use) has

| Device Drivers  ---  Character devices  ---
| * Direct Rendering Manager
|   MIntel 830M, 845G, 852GM, 855GM, 865G
| M   i830 driver
| M   i915 driver



Thank you!This work for me too.Now I only choose i915 and compile as module.
It works much well now!


If you can't tell for formatting, i[0-9]{3} are in the category `Intel
830M...  I had originally compiled them in, and you can only include
one or the other in the kernel.  I had chosen the i830. It was the wrong
choice -- an easy mistake, considering both list the 845G as supported
and the 830 happens to be first.
I recommend, if you haven't yet, compiling the kernel with the
Intel drm drivers as modules.  X will load the right one.  In
retrospect, the kernel help messege told me how.
For what it's worth, you'll also have to have in xorg.conf:

| Section Module
| Load  glx
|Load  dri
|   ...
| EndSection
|
| Section DRI
|   Mode0666
| EndSection

And now the third line of glxinfo should show 'Yes'
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ glxinfo | grep direct
| direct rendering: Yes
and your glxgears will be nice and smooth, and, in my case, 67%
faster.

Good luck.


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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-20 Thread Dan Farrell 
On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:28:51 +0800
Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you!This work for me too.Now I only choose i915 and compile as
 module. It works much well now!

Hurrah!  We both had success.  Have fun putting or whatnot.  
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[gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-19 Thread Chuanwen Wu 

Hi,guys!
I want to play games on my machine.Here is the information of my video
card in lspci:

VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)

I have tried to play some games,like neverputt,which is so SLOW.The
corresponding time is long and the cpu usage is always 100%.

Can you recommend some games that maybe I can play on my machine smoothly ?
And maybe you can tell me how to configurate my xorg.conf or anything
else to optimize my machine when I play games.

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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-19 Thread Dan Farrell 
On Sat, 19 May 2007 18:40:33 +0800
Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,guys!
 I want to play games on my machine.Here is the information of my video
 card in lspci:
 
 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
 Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
 
 I have tried to play some games,like neverputt,which is so SLOW.The
 corresponding time is long and the cpu usage is always 100%.
 
 Can you recommend some games that maybe I can play on my machine
 smoothly ? And maybe you can tell me how to configurate my xorg.conf
 or anything else to optimize my machine when I play games.
 
 Thanks in advanced!
Are you hardware accellerated?  Check with glxinfo.  I bet you can play
more than you think.
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Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-19 Thread Chuanwen Wu 

2007/5/19, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Sat, 19 May 2007 18:40:33 +0800
Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,guys!
 I want to play games on my machine.Here is the information of my video
 card in lspci:

 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE
 Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)

 I have tried to play some games,like neverputt,which is so SLOW.The
 corresponding time is long and the cpu usage is always 100%.

 Can you recommend some games that maybe I can play on my machine
 smoothly ? And maybe you can tell me how to configurate my xorg.conf
 or anything else to optimize my machine when I play games.

 Thanks in advanced!
Are you hardware accellerated?  Check with glxinfo.  I bet you can play
more than you think.


Here is the output of glxinfo:

$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
   GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
   GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method,
   GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe,
   GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
   GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
   GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory,
   GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_MESA_swap_control,
   GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control,
   GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
   GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
   GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
GLX version: 1.2
GLX extensions:
   GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
   GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer,
   GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample,
   GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
OpenGL extensions:
   GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_draw_buffers, GL_ARB_fragment_program,
   GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_multitexture,
   GL_ARB_occlusion_query, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite,
   GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
   GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map,
   GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine,
   GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
   GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two,
   GL_ARB_texture_rectangle, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_program,
   GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color,
   GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate,
   GL_EXT_blend_logic_op, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract,
   GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements,
   GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_framebuffer_object, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays,
   GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_paletted_texture, GL_EXT_point_parameters,
   GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color,
   GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs,
   GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_subtexture,
   GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp,
   GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine,
   GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias,
   GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_object,
   GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels,
   GL_ATI_draw_buffers, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3,
   GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3,
   GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_INGR_blend_func_separate,
   GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture, GL_NV_blend_square,
   GL_NV_fragment_program, GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL_NV_point_sprite,
   GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_NV_vertex_program,
   GL_NV_vertex_program1_1, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGI_color_table,
   GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp,
   GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIX_depth_texture,
   GL_SGIX_shadow, GL_SGIX_shadow_ambient, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays

  visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
--
0x23 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None
0x24 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  8 16 16 16  0  0 0 None
0x25 24 tc  0 32  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x26 24 tc  0 32  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 16  8 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x27 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  0  0 16  0  0  0

Re: [gentoo-user] what games can I play on my 845G video card?

2007-05-19 Thread Dan Farrell 
On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:29:12 +0800
Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 direct rendering: No

there it is, third line.  
Hey, looks like I have the same problem!  Perhaps we can figure it out
together.  
| 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation
| 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
| direct rendering: No
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