Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
On 23 December 2011, at 14:38, Michael Mol wrote: ... Devs don't seem to like bug reports involving mixes of stable and unstable. I was mildly scolded for filing a bug report against xemacs' failing to build with libpng15, when xemacs was stable, and libpng15 wasn't, yet. I'm trying to being slightly more conservative about what I unmask. The devs are just sometimes grumpy and, as a group, inconsistent. Assuming there isn't already an existing bug report for that issue (just makes sure you check *thoroughly* - duplicate bug submissions is a pet peeve of mine) it's perfectly legitimate to report it. If you don't report it, then there'll just be a spate of users doing so when libpng15 is stabilised. It may very well be that libpng15 hasn't been stabilised for this very reason, but in that case there should be an existing bug so you don't waste time reporting the problem. I report bugs all the time saying please mark this ~x86 package as stable, works for me on an otherwise mostly stable system and I never get any complaints. The sum of your experience and mine is that devs will complain about this only when it suits them. Gentoo devs are over-worked volunteers, so we must accept such idiosyncrasies. But please don't stop fling useful bug reports. Stroller. (Searching shows that your report *was* found valuable, and that your bug was set as a blocker to bug 354479 until bug 385207 was created. This is *exactly* how it should have been handled, and if you hadn't reported the issue then someone else would have had to find out the hard way. The dev's chiding was a poor choice of words - please continue filing such useful bug reports.)
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 05:12:47 Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: G.Wolfe Woodbury writes: On 12/22/2011 02:00 AM, Pintér Tibor wrote: Reemerge all xf86* packages Quite obvious as the log clearly gives the clue (new xorg server version, driver version mismatch) I looked right at it and missed the obvious! Thanks for the clue-by-four. BTW, emerge -a @x11-module-rebuild will do this. Wonko emerge: There are no sets to satisfy 'x11-module-rebuild'. The following sets exist: selected system world You need portage-2.2 to be able to use sets. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Alex Schusterwo...@wonkology.org wrote: G.Wolfe Woodbury writes: On 12/22/2011 02:00 AM, Pintér Tibor wrote: Reemerge all xf86* packages Quite obvious as the log clearly gives the clue (new xorg server version, driver version mismatch) I looked right at it and missed the obvious! Thanks for the clue-by-four. BTW, emerge -a @x11-module-rebuild will do this. Wonko emerge: There are no sets to satisfy 'x11-module-rebuild'. The following sets exist: selected system world Someone posted this one liner a while back: emerge -1a $(qlist -I -C x11-drivers/) That takes care of the video driver, mouse, keyboard and such. Mine is these packages: root@fireball / # qlist -I -C x11-drivers/ x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa root@fireball / # I wound up doing something similar, involving a mix of eix, grep and sed. I try to remember to run that when I upgrade the kernel or xorg. I usually forget and have to do the SysReq keystroke magic. After I slap my forehead of course. I still don't know the SysReq magic. I've just ssh'd in. If I can't do that, it usually means something hardlocked. There are quite a few of these commands that gets posted from time to time. As a hint, I have a text file in my /root directory that contains the commands and a description. I just cat and grep the file when I need to. I wouldn't recommend a user directory tho. If for someone reason only root is mounted, then you can get to /root but not /home if it is a separate partition. You, and other Gentooers, may want to think about doing something like this. Hope this helps in some small way. Funny thing is, I thought I'd taken care of it. It didn't crop up for me until xscreensaver kicked in, which crashed X due to differeing ABI versions between what was already running and what xscreensaver tried to get linked in. Guess I should remember to restart X. :) -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 23 Dec 2011 05:12:47 Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: G.Wolfe Woodbury writes: On 12/22/2011 02:00 AM, Pintér Tibor wrote: Reemerge all xf86* packages Quite obvious as the log clearly gives the clue (new xorg server version, driver version mismatch) I looked right at it and missed the obvious! Thanks for the clue-by-four. BTW, emerge -a @x11-module-rebuild will do this. Wonko emerge: There are no sets to satisfy 'x11-module-rebuild'. The following sets exist: selected system world You need portage-2.2 to be able to use sets. Sadly, 2.1.10.11 is the latest marked stable for ~amd64. (Or was, last time I synced.) It'll be nice when it's available, though. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
Michael Mol wrote:
I still don't know the SysReq magic. I've just ssh'd in. If I can't do
that, it usually means something hardlocked.
This is from a post Neil made many ages ago. Notice the random sig too.
Hold down Atl, hold down SysRq, press each of the keys in turn. The
usual full sequence is R-E-I-S-U-B Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken
By ${DEITY} - this tagline picker is spooky at times :-O
-- Neil Bothwick System halted - Press all keys at once to continue. Me
again, don't forget to include the options in the kernel config too.
Should look like this: root@fireball / # zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i
sysrq CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y root@fireball / # When it locks up to the
point that those keys don't work, grip the plug firmly and pull. I
usually get to about the E and sometimes the I before I find myself at a
console. Another thing, it is best if you use that to go all the way
down to single user mode, make sure no processes are running that
shouldn't with top or something then go back to regular default mode. I
say that because sometimes there is plenty of cruft left hanging around.
It stops services but the services still have run and lock files and it
leads to errors. You could also just reboot too.
There are quite a few of these commands that gets posted from time to time.
As a hint, I have a text file in my /root directory that contains the
commands and a description. I just cat and grep the file when I need to. I
wouldn't recommend a user directory tho. If for someone reason only root is
mounted, then you can get to /root but not /home if it is a separate
partition. You, and other Gentooers, may want to think about doing
something like this.
Hope this helps in some small way.
Funny thing is, I thought I'd taken care of it. It didn't crop up for
me until xscreensaver kicked in, which crashed X due to differeing ABI
versions between what was already running and what xscreensaver tried
to get linked in. Guess I should remember to restart X. :)
Yea, some updates are tricky. A good while back, I could upgrade all of
KDE and not logout until it is done. Now I have to logout at least a
couple times or things get buggy. I guess things are pretty tight
between programs nowadays.
Dale
:-) :-)
--
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how
you interpreted my words!
Miss the compile output? Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: You need portage-2.2 to be able to use sets. Sadly, 2.1.10.11 is the latest marked stable for ~amd64. (Or was, last time I synced.) It'll be nice when it's available, though. I been using the unstable portage for a long time. Since I built this rig if I recall correctly. It works fine but it does get updated pretty regular. Zac is always adding some new frills and shiney things. ;-) I wouldn't blame you for staying stable but it works fine here on my amd64 and old x86 rig. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
Dale wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: You need portage-2.2 to be able to use sets. Sadly, 2.1.10.11 is the latest marked stable for ~amd64. (Or was, last time I synced.) It'll be nice when it's available, though. I been using the unstable portage for a long time. Since I built this rig if I recall correctly. It works fine but it does get updated pretty regular. Zac is always adding some new frills and shiney things. ;-) I wouldn't blame you for staying stable but it works fine here on my amd64 and old x86 rig. Devs don't seem to like bug reports involving mixes of stable and unstable. I was mildly scolded for filing a bug report against xemacs' failing to build with libpng15, when xemacs was stable, and libpng15 wasn't, yet. I'm trying to being slightly more conservative about what I unmask. Between autounmask and specific desires to be on top of some packages, it's not easy. For example, stable WINE hasn't built since February 2011... ( https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354745 ) Anyone who needs WINE for any reason needs to use their unstable 1.3.x tree. This isn't expected to be fixed until this coming *March*, when ICU 49 goes generally available. /rant
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
Michael Mol wrote: Dale wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: You need portage-2.2 to be able to use sets. Sadly, 2.1.10.11 is the latest marked stable for ~amd64. (Or was, last time I synced.) It'll be nice when it's available, though. I been using the unstable portage for a long time. Since I built this rig if I recall correctly. It works fine but it does get updated pretty regular. Zac is always adding some new frills and shiney things. ;-) I wouldn't blame you for staying stable but it works fine here on my amd64 and old x86 rig. Devs don't seem to like bug reports involving mixes of stable and unstable. I was mildly scolded for filing a bug report against xemacs' failing to build with libpng15, when xemacs was stable, and libpng15 wasn't, yet. I'm trying to being slightly more conservative about what I unmask. Between autounmask and specific desires to be on top of some packages, it's not easy. For example, stable WINE hasn't built since February 2011... ( https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354745 ) Anyone who needs WINE for any reason needs to use their unstable 1.3.x tree. This isn't expected to be fixed until this coming *March*, when ICU 49 goes generally available. /rant I file bugs with the unstable portage and I don't think I've ever heard them complain about running unstable portage. That said, sometimes when you run some software unstable and some not, then you can run into issues. A while back I was trying to burn home DVDs. I run the latest KDE4 but not all the way up to but unstable still. I had to also install unstable for the packages that it depended on as well. Things like DeVeDe and Bombono would not work well with them being unstable and the things under the hood running stable. Things like this, you have to make choices and just sort of figure out my trial and error. If in doubt, ask here first to see if a bug should be posted or not. If others have ran into the same issue, then maybe it needs to be filed possibly upstream. Thing is, the latest portage seems to fix things more than it breaks. It handles updates a lot better. The downside, docs are not to up to date. Zac manages to stay ahead of the docs at times. I monitor -dev to sort of keep up. Maybe they will mark it stable soon and you can test out all the new stuff. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:17:31 -0600, Dale wrote: Devs don't seem to like bug reports involving mixes of stable and unstable. I file bugs with the unstable portage and I don't think I've ever heard them complain about running unstable portage. It's not unstable, it's testing (or non-stable, if you prefer), bug reports are not only welcome, they are it's purpose. The situation that Michael referred to was running a mixture to stable and not, that is bound to cause spurious problems. -- Neil Bothwick I am Flatulus of Borg. You will be asphixiated. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
On 12/22/2011 02:00 AM, Pintér Tibor wrote: Reemerge all xf86* packages Quite obvious as the log clearly gives the clue (new xorg server version, driver version mismatch) t I looked right at it and missed the obvious! Thanks for the clue-by-four. -- GWW
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
G.Wolfe Woodbury writes: On 12/22/2011 02:00 AM, Pintér Tibor wrote: Reemerge all xf86* packages Quite obvious as the log clearly gives the clue (new xorg server version, driver version mismatch) I looked right at it and missed the obvious! Thanks for the clue-by-four. BTW, emerge -a @x11-module-rebuild will do this. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: G.Wolfe Woodbury writes: On 12/22/2011 02:00 AM, Pintér Tibor wrote: Reemerge all xf86* packages Quite obvious as the log clearly gives the clue (new xorg server version, driver version mismatch) I looked right at it and missed the obvious! Thanks for the clue-by-four. BTW, emerge -a @x11-module-rebuild will do this. Wonko emerge: There are no sets to satisfy 'x11-module-rebuild'. The following sets exist: selected system world -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Alex Schusterwo...@wonkology.org wrote: G.Wolfe Woodbury writes: On 12/22/2011 02:00 AM, Pintér Tibor wrote: Reemerge all xf86* packages Quite obvious as the log clearly gives the clue (new xorg server version, driver version mismatch) I looked right at it and missed the obvious! Thanks for the clue-by-four. BTW, emerge -a @x11-module-rebuild will do this. Wonko emerge: There are no sets to satisfy 'x11-module-rebuild'. The following sets exist: selected system world Someone posted this one liner a while back: emerge -1a $(qlist -I -C x11-drivers/) That takes care of the video driver, mouse, keyboard and such. Mine is these packages: root@fireball / # qlist -I -C x11-drivers/ x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa root@fireball / # I try to remember to run that when I upgrade the kernel or xorg. I usually forget and have to do the SysReq keystroke magic. After I slap my forehead of course. There are quite a few of these commands that gets posted from time to time. As a hint, I have a text file in my /root directory that contains the commands and a description. I just cat and grep the file when I need to. I wouldn't recommend a user directory tho. If for someone reason only root is mounted, then you can get to /root but not /home if it is a separate partition. You, and other Gentooers, may want to think about doing something like this. Hope this helps in some small way. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM kbd/mouse lockup after emerge --update on a stable amd64 platform - need hints to cure
Reemerge all xf86* packages Quite obvious as the log clearly gives the clue (new xorg server version, driver version mismatch) t G.Wolfe Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote: I did: emerge -va --update --deep --newuse @world on a stable gentoo amd64 (multilib) system after switching the profile from desktop/gnome to desktop and adding qt4 and kde flags to make.conf. [I wan to add a few kde apps to the mix, but not everything.] Since then, I get a keyboard and mouse lockup when gdm starts. and can't login graphically or switch to a text console. I'd rather not do a complete re-install on that instance, so some clue as to where to look for problems beyond the obvious dmesg and boot info. I do get a dmeventd failure to start, so lvm-monitoring fails to start (even after a re-emerge of lvm2) but don't think that as anything to do with the X lockup. Startx from single user mode also causes a kbd/mouse lockup. I've verified that the kernel has the proper event configuration. Perusing the Xorg.0.log reveals evdev failing to load: [ 410.507] (II) LoadModule: evdev [ 410.507] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so [ 410.513] (II) Module evdev: vendor=X.Org Foundation [ 410.513] compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 2.6.0 [ 410.513] Module class: X.Org XInput Driver [ 410.513] ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 12.2 [ 410.513] (EE) module ABI major version (12) doesn't match the server's version (13) [ 410.513] (II) UnloadModule: evdev [ 410.513] (II) Unloading evdev [ 410.513] (EE) Failed to load module evdev (module requirement mismatch, 0) [ 410.513] (EE) No input driver matching `evdev' [ 410.513] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Power Button (/dev/input/event1) [ 410.513] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass evdev keyboard catchall [ 410.513] (II) LoadModule: evdev [ 410.513] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so [ 410.513] (II) Module evdev: vendor=X.Org Foundation [ 410.513] compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 2.6.0 [ 410.513] Module class: X.Org XInput Driver [ 410.513] ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 12.2 [ 410.513] (EE) module ABI major version (12) doesn't match the server's version (13) [ 410.513] (II) UnloadModule: evdev [ 410.513] (II) Unloading evdev [ 410.513] (EE) Failed to load module evdev (module requirement mismatch, 0) [ 410.513] (EE) No input driver matching `evdev' [ 410.514] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Sleep Button (/dev/input/event0) which tell me something went wrong in the re-emerge of xorg something, but I'd like to get a clue as to just what to do to fix it. Thanks in advance for any help. -- G.Wolfe Woodbury aka redwo...@gmail.com
