Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?

2005-08-26 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 01:32:06PM -0300, Fernando Canizo wrote

 Seems you have found your solution to this problem, but i want to
 add this, maybe unrelated to your problem, but yet usefull:
 
 In your original solution you have two X servers running at different
 resolutions, you don't need to start two servers for this, just use
 the command 'xrandr'
 
 # to see available modes 
 xrandr -q
  
 # to change to a desired mode
 xrandr -s number_in_first_column_of_previous_command
   
 'xrandr' is part of the x11-base/xorg-x11 package.

  I'm aware of xrandr; unfortunately, applications don't seem to be.
xrandr is great for internet-TV, when I want to temporarily resize the
screen, because resizing the screen doesn't cost anything in cpu cycles.
Software scaling of video is a cpu hog.  But Firefox won't automatically
resize to the new resolution.  fbpanel menubar disappears off the bottom
when I go to a smaller screen, etc, etc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?

2005-08-16 Thread Holly Bostick
Tom Naujokas schreef:
 On Mon, 2005-15-08 at 22:09 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
 
 
  The one part I haven't figured out is xterm.  If I {ALT-RIGHT-CLICK}
in an xterm, I get a menu that will alter font sizes.  How do I change
the default font size that xterm comes up with?
 
 
 You can control xterm fonts with either command line options or with
 Xtoolkit resources. man xterm shows the option:
 
   -fn font   This option specifies the font to be used for displaying
  normal text.  The default is fixed.
 
 and for a resource:
 
   font (class Font)   Specifies the name of the normal font.  The 
   default is ``fixed.''
 
 Reviewing the rest of the man file, there are many other options and
 resources for controlling fonts. Far more than I remember from the
 last time I looked at this particular man file. Looks like some
 experimentation would be in order to determine what works best for
 you.
 

The 'simplest' way to control xterm fonts is to edit your ~/.Xresources
file to specify the font, or font size, or font encoding, that you want
xterm (or terms based on xterm, like aterm or mrxvt) to use, although
gnome-terminal and konsole can edit such settings directly in the GUI.

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?

2005-08-15 Thread Zac Medico

Walter Dnes wrote:

  I'm running Gentoo (of course) with Blackbox as my WM.  I got a
digital camera several weeks ago, and am now playing around with
2590 x 1920 sized images in Gimp.  My monitor can't go quite *THAT*
high, but 1600 x 1200 (for that matter 1560 x 1170) is large enough
for Gimp to display its toolbox menu plus an image window at 50%
(1280 x 960) without any overlapping.

  My only complaint is that I can barely see the fonts at that
resolution.  I normally run at 1152 x 864 on a 19 CRT.  I'd prefer to
switch my web-browsing, etc to 1560 x 1170, but I simply can't read
the text.  For the time-being, I've created a second user account for
myself.  waltdnes (my regular account) surfs the web at 1152 x 864 on
display :0, and user2 (how original) works with Gimp at 1560 x 1170 on
display :1.

  How do I boost font size across the board so I can surf the web, and
do spreadsheets, etc without having to squint at higher resolutions ?



Although it seems like your X dpi setting should match the physical resolution 
of your monitor, it can be used to tweak font sizes.  There is an X -dpi 
command line setting documented in the Xserver manpage and a DisplaySize 
directive that can go in your xorg.conf file.  The xdpyinfo program will tell 
you the current dpi setting.

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?

2005-08-15 Thread George Garvey
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 11:28:44PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
 Although it seems like your X dpi setting should match the physical 
 resolution of your monitor, it can be used to tweak font sizes.  There is 
 an X -dpi command line setting documented in the Xserver manpage and a 
 DisplaySize directive that can go in your xorg.conf file.  The xdpyinfo 

   But his stated aim is to increase font sizes, and use gimp at a
higher resolution. Changing the DPI would mess up his expectations
about gimp, as I understood them. He might as well stick to the lower
resolution he prefers.
   I have a similar problem, due to a large monitor size coupled with
2304x1440 resolution. Font sizes for most X programs can be changed,
including widow managers. Most of the web sites out there refuse to
respect settings about font sizes put in browsers, though. It is
annoying. Only thing I know to do is change zoom factors (and Firefox
doesn't make that easy as far as I know: Opera did), squint and hope
you don't ruin your eyes, or change X resolutions on the fly
(Ctl-Alt-+, etc.).
   Web sites have really lowered my respect for graphic artists, which
used to be quite high when I worked in the print medium. They don't
seem to get how to design with relationships instead of exact numbers.
Wierd to me that an artist doesn't understand using relationships.
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?

2005-08-15 Thread Zac Medico

George Garvey wrote:

On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 11:28:44PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:

Although it seems like your X dpi setting should match the physical 
resolution of your monitor, it can be used to tweak font sizes.  There is 
an X -dpi command line setting documented in the Xserver manpage and a 
DisplaySize directive that can go in your xorg.conf file.  The xdpyinfo 



   But his stated aim is to increase font sizes, and use gimp at a
higher resolution. Changing the DPI would mess up his expectations
about gimp, as I understood them. He might as well stick to the lower
resolution he prefers.


Yeah, I agree, changing the dpi is an ugly hack.  ;-)  It should match the 
physical resolution.


   I have a similar problem, due to a large monitor size coupled with
2304x1440 resolution. Font sizes for most X programs can be changed,
including widow managers. Most of the web sites out there refuse to
respect settings about font sizes put in browsers, though. It is
annoying. Only thing I know to do is change zoom factors (and Firefox
doesn't make that easy as far as I know: Opera did), squint and hope
you don't ruin your eyes, or change X resolutions on the fly
(Ctl-Alt-+, etc.).


I know of a couple text size related extensions for firefox.

http://www.splintered.co.uk/extensions/
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefoxcategory=Miscellaneousnumpg=10id=55


   Web sites have really lowered my respect for graphic artists, which
used to be quite high when I worked in the print medium. They don't
seem to get how to design with relationships instead of exact numbers.
Wierd to me that an artist doesn't understand using relationships.


Overuse of pixel measurements is a sign of someone without a clue.  ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?

2005-08-15 Thread George Garvey
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 12:58:26AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
 I know of a couple text size related extensions for firefox.
 
 http://www.splintered.co.uk/extensions/
 https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefoxcategory=Miscellaneousnumpg=10id=55

   Thanks for that. Turns out that Firefox 1.0.6 already has something
to make it easier built-in, as far as I know. It is under view text
size on the menu, and uses shortcut keys similar to X's.
   Sad thing is I remember noticing that a while back and then not
using it :.
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?

2005-08-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 05:24:40PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote

 The question is precisely whether his X dpi matches his physical dpi.
 I used to have a similar problem when I tried to run 1280 x 1024 on my
 laptop and get itsy-bitsy fonts. 
 
 Then I took a ruler and measured the monitor and set the DisplaySize
 in the Monitor section of xorg.conf and now the fonts becomes readable
 again. 

  Thanks.  That was it, at least for menus.  Here are a couple of lines
from my revised xorg.conf

#DisplaySize 400 300
DisplaySize 328 246

  400 mm x 300 mm gives approx a 19 inch diagonal.  I lied to X, telling
it that I have a smaller CRT.  X uses bigger fonts to remain readable on
the smaller CRT, and I like it.  Non-menu fonts for apps have to be
set individually.  For Firefox, it's...  

Edit = Preferences = General = Fonts  Colors

  The one part I haven't figured out is xterm.  If I {ALT-RIGHT-CLICK}
in an xterm, I get a menu that will alter font sizes.  How do I change
the default font size that xterm comes up with?

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?

2005-08-15 Thread Tom Naujokas
On Mon, 2005-15-08 at 22:09 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:

   The one part I haven't figured out is xterm.  If I {ALT-RIGHT-CLICK}
 in an xterm, I get a menu that will alter font sizes.  How do I change
 the default font size that xterm comes up with?

You can control xterm fonts with either command line options or with
Xtoolkit resources. man xterm shows the option:

  -fn font   This option specifies the font to be used for displaying
 normal text.  The default is fixed.

and for a resource:

  font (class Font)   Specifies the name of the normal font.  The 
  default is ``fixed.''

Reviewing the rest of the man file, there are many other options and
resources for controlling fonts. Far more than I remember from the
last time I looked at this particular man file. Looks like some
experimentation would be in order to determine what works best for
you.

Tom Naujokas  



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