Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
David Relson wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:21:43 -0700 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? It depends on how you started X in the first place. If you did a startx (or similar), logging out should be all you need to do to get out of X. If you use a login manager, XDM/GDM/KDM then it'll restart itself so you'll need to switch to a VT (ctrl-alt-F1) and then sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop to shut down XDM (and therefore X). You can then rmmod your video drivers or do whatever changes you want to do. sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start to bring it back up. Several of you suggested /etc/init.d/xdm start or so to get it (re)started. It doesn't work. Instead the start-stop daemon complains of not being able to stat /usr/bin/xdm which doesn't exist. And no I didn't mispell it. I've never seen this before an I'm baffled. ++ kevin Hi Kevin, This weekend I needed to stop and start X a lot because I was experimenting with running dosemu from a tty command line and the DOS application I'm running under dosemu hangs the command line. Using an ssh session (from another machine) I found that /etc/init.d/xdm stop works to stop X. However, restarting is a bit tricky since /etc/init.d/xdm start fails because of files in /var/lib/init.d/*/xdm. If one runs rm -rf /var/lib/init.d/*/xdm then runs /etc/init.d/xdm start one is good to go. HTH, David Then /etc/init.d/xdm zap may be easier and cleaner. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:21:43 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Several of you suggested /etc/init.d/xdm start or so to get it (re)started. It doesn't work. Instead the start-stop daemon complains of not being able to stat /usr/bin/xdm which doesn't exist. And no I didn't mispell it. I've never seen this before an I'm baffled. /etc/init.d/xdm runs either xdm, gdm or kdm, depending on the setting in /etc/conf.d/xdm. I suspect you may have inadvertently overwritten this with etc-update or similar after an update, setting it back to the default of xdm. -- Neil Bothwick Things are more like they are today than they ever have been before. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:22:26 -0500 Dale wrote: David Relson wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:21:43 -0700 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? It depends on how you started X in the first place. If you did a startx (or similar), logging out should be all you need to do to get out of X. If you use a login manager, XDM/GDM/KDM then it'll restart itself so you'll need to switch to a VT (ctrl-alt-F1) and then sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop to shut down XDM (and therefore X). You can then rmmod your video drivers or do whatever changes you want to do. sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start to bring it back up. Several of you suggested /etc/init.d/xdm start or so to get it (re)started. It doesn't work. Instead the start-stop daemon complains of not being able to stat /usr/bin/xdm which doesn't exist. And no I didn't mispell it. I've never seen this before an I'm baffled. ++ kevin Hi Kevin, This weekend I needed to stop and start X a lot because I was experimenting with running dosemu from a tty command line and the DOS application I'm running under dosemu hangs the command line. Using an ssh session (from another machine) I found that /etc/init.d/xdm stop works to stop X. However, restarting is a bit tricky since /etc/init.d/xdm start fails because of files in /var/lib/init.d/*/xdm. If one runs rm -rf /var/lib/init.d/*/xdm then runs /etc/init.d/xdm start one is good to go. HTH, David Then /etc/init.d/xdm zap may be easier and cleaner. Dale I hadn't known of zap. Indeed it's an easier way to do the cleanup. However, use it _after_ stop. I tried it instead of stop. What it does is remove the /var/init.d/*/xdm files. With them gone, /etc/init.d/xdm status can't tell that xdm has been started and /etc/init.d/xdm stop doesn't do anything. I had to frog around to fix the problem. Be careful !! David
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
David Relson wrote: On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:22:26 -0500 Dale wrote: David Relson wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:21:43 -0700 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? It depends on how you started X in the first place. If you did a startx (or similar), logging out should be all you need to do to get out of X. If you use a login manager, XDM/GDM/KDM then it'll restart itself so you'll need to switch to a VT (ctrl-alt-F1) and then sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop to shut down XDM (and therefore X). You can then rmmod your video drivers or do whatever changes you want to do. sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start to bring it back up. Several of you suggested /etc/init.d/xdm start or so to get it (re)started. It doesn't work. Instead the start-stop daemon complains of not being able to stat /usr/bin/xdm which doesn't exist. And no I didn't mispell it. I've never seen this before an I'm baffled. ++ kevin Hi Kevin, This weekend I needed to stop and start X a lot because I was experimenting with running dosemu from a tty command line and the DOS application I'm running under dosemu hangs the command line. Using an ssh session (from another machine) I found that /etc/init.d/xdm stop works to stop X. However, restarting is a bit tricky since /etc/init.d/xdm start fails because of files in /var/lib/init.d/*/xdm. If one runs rm -rf /var/lib/init.d/*/xdm then runs /etc/init.d/xdm start one is good to go. HTH, David Then /etc/init.d/xdm zap may be easier and cleaner. Dale I hadn't known of zap. Indeed it's an easier way to do the cleanup. However, use it _after_ stop. I tried it instead of stop. What it does is remove the /var/init.d/*/xdm files. With them gone, /etc/init.d/xdm status can't tell that xdm has been started and /etc/init.d/xdm stop doesn't do anything. I had to frog around to fix the problem. Be careful !! David True, you do have to use it after stop. It is supposed to reset everything to a stopped state. I think it also kills running processes but I have not tested that to see if it does for sure. I just know that it works and does so cleanly. It's certainly a better option than trying to do it manually. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
Am Montag 06 Juli 2009 21:33:36 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? Gentoo or not, make your changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, logout from your X session, change to a virtual console and restart the display manager (/etc/init.d/xdm restart), which also restarts X as a side effect. HTH... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Monday 06 July 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag 06 Juli 2009 21:33:36 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? Gentoo or not, make your changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, logout from your X session, change to a virtual console and restart the display manager (/etc/init.d/xdm restart), which also restarts X as a side effect. HTH... Dirk It is simpler to use ALT+CTL+BKSPACE to restart the display manager
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Monday 06 July 2009 22:49:38 Alexander wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag 06 Juli 2009 21:33:36 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? Gentoo or not, make your changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, logout from your X session, change to a virtual console and restart the display manager (/etc/init.d/xdm restart), which also restarts X as a side effect. HTH... Dirk It is simpler to use ALT+CTL+BKSPACE to restart the display manager There's this thing that RedHat gave us called DontZap that gets in the way of that -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? It depends on how you started X in the first place. If you did a startx (or similar), logging out should be all you need to do to get out of X. If you use a login manager, XDM/GDM/KDM then it'll restart itself so you'll need to switch to a VT (ctrl-alt-F1) and then sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop to shut down XDM (and therefore X). You can then rmmod your video drivers or do whatever changes you want to do. sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start to bring it back up.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? It depends on how you started X in the first place. If you did a startx (or similar), logging out should be all you need to do to get out of X. If you use a login manager, XDM/GDM/KDM then it'll restart itself so you'll need to switch to a VT (ctrl-alt-F1) and then sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop to shut down XDM (and therefore X). You can then rmmod your video drivers or do whatever changes you want to do. sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start to bring it back up. Several of you suggested /etc/init.d/xdm start or so to get it (re)started. It doesn't work. Instead the start-stop daemon complains of not being able to stat /usr/bin/xdm which doesn't exist. And no I didn't mispell it. I've never seen this before an I'm baffled. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? It depends on how you started X in the first place. If you did a startx (or similar), logging out should be all you need to do to get out of X. If you use a login manager, XDM/GDM/KDM then it'll restart itself so you'll need to switch to a VT (ctrl-alt-F1) and then sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop to shut down XDM (and therefore X). You can then rmmod your video drivers or do whatever changes you want to do. sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start to bring it back up. Several of you suggested /etc/init.d/xdm start or so to get it (re)started. It doesn't work. Instead the start-stop daemon complains of not being able to stat /usr/bin/xdm which doesn't exist. And no I didn't mispell it. I've never seen this before an I'm baffled. Hi, You haven't told us how you start X, which I think would make it easier to determine how to stop it. Maybe you don't use XDM at all, in which case the above suggestion wouldn't have any relevance to your situation.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? It depends on how you started X in the first place. If you did a startx (or similar), logging out should be all you need to do to get out of X. If you use a login manager, XDM/GDM/KDM then it'll restart itself so you'll need to switch to a VT (ctrl-alt-F1) and then sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop to shut down XDM (and therefore X). You can then rmmod your video drivers or do whatever changes you want to do. sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start to bring it back up. Several of you suggested /etc/init.d/xdm start or so to get it (re)started. It doesn't work. Instead the start-stop daemon complains of not being able to stat /usr/bin/xdm which doesn't exist. And no I didn't mispell it. I've never seen this before an I'm baffled. Hi, You haven't told us how you start X, which I think would make it easier to determine how to stop it. Maybe you don't use XDM at all, in which case the above suggestion wouldn't have any relevance to your situation. I haven't told you because I don't know. I do know that I was using KDE when I still had X. But I set that up over 5 years ago and I've forgotten all the details. But there's no sign of *dm in /etc/init.d, other than xdm, which acts pretty normal outside of the fact that it fails. It goes through motions, says some things work by putting [OK] in the right margin, and all that. If you tell me how to find out, I'll answer any questions. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 11:08:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009 22:49:38 Alexander wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag 06 Juli 2009 21:33:36 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? Gentoo or not, make your changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, logout from your X session, change to a virtual console and restart the display manager (/etc/init.d/xdm restart), which also restarts X as a side effect. HTH... Dirk It is simpler to use ALT+CTL+BKSPACE to restart the display manager There's this thing that RedHat gave us called DontZap that gets in the way of that -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com This isn't RedHat. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpaJXpm7R3kN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Alexanderb3n...@yandex.ru wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag 06 Juli 2009 21:33:36 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? Gentoo or not, make your changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, logout from your X session, change to a virtual console and restart the display manager (/etc/init.d/xdm restart), which also restarts X as a side effect. HTH... Dirk It is simpler to use ALT+CTL+BKSPACE to restart the display manager Except that it doesn't work at all when your X is as hosed as mine. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
Jacob Todd wrote: On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 11:08:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009 22:49:38 Alexander wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag 06 Juli 2009 21:33:36 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? Gentoo or not, make your changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, logout from your X session, change to a virtual console and restart the display manager (/etc/init.d/xdm restart), which also restarts X as a side effect. HTH... Dirk It is simpler to use ALT+CTL+BKSPACE to restart the display manager There's this thing that RedHat gave us called DontZap that gets in the way of that -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com This isn't RedHat. But it applies to Gentoo as well. From my xorg.conf.example on Gentoo. # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #OptionDontZap It's a valid option on every Linux I have ever played with. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Monday 06 July 2009, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? It depends on how you started X in the first place. If you did a startx (or similar), logging out should be all you need to do to get out of X. If you use a login manager, XDM/GDM/KDM then it'll restart itself so you'll need to switch to a VT (ctrl-alt-F1) and then sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop to shut down XDM (and therefore X). You can then rmmod your video drivers or do whatever changes you want to do. sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start to bring it back up. Several of you suggested /etc/init.d/xdm start or so to get it (re)started. It doesn't work. Instead the start-stop daemon complains of not being able to stat /usr/bin/xdm which doesn't exist. And no I didn't mispell it. I've never seen this before an I'm baffled. Hi, You haven't told us how you start X, which I think would make it easier to determine how to stop it. Maybe you don't use XDM at all, in which case the above suggestion wouldn't have any relevance to your situation. I haven't told you because I don't know. I do know that I was using KDE when I still had X. But I set that up over 5 years ago and I've forgotten all the details. But there's no sign of *dm in /etc/init.d, other than xdm, which acts pretty normal outside of the fact that it fails. It goes through motions, says some things work by putting [OK] in the right margin, and all that. If you tell me how to find out, I'll answer any questions. ++ kevin Look at your ps axf. If it is running via xdm you will see something like: 6403 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/xdm 6417 tty7 Ss+ 28:54 \_ /usr/bin/X :0 -nolisten tcp -br vt7 -auth /etc/X11/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A:0-bvk4xxF -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 06:23:23PM -0500, Dale wrote: Jacob Todd wrote: This isn't RedHat. But it applies to Gentoo as well. From my xorg.conf.example on Gentoo. # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #OptionDontZap It's a valid option on every Linux I have ever played with. Dale :-) :-) Never noticed that. Thanks for the info, Dale. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpN8hckhs7aG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On 6 Jul 2009, at 23:41, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: ... You haven't told us how you start X, which I think would make it easier to determine how to stop it I haven't told you because I don't know. I do know that I was using KDE when I still had X. But I set that up over 5 years ago and I've forgotten all the details. But there's no sign of *dm in /etc/init.d, other than xdm, which acts pretty normal outside of the fact that it fails. ... Suggest you review your current configuration against this document: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Tuesday 07 July 2009, Dale wrote: Jacob Todd wrote: On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 11:08:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009 22:49:38 Alexander wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag 06 Juli 2009 21:33:36 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? Gentoo or not, make your changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, logout from your X session, change to a virtual console and restart the display manager (/etc/init.d/xdm restart), which also restarts X as a side effect. HTH... Dirk It is simpler to use ALT+CTL+BKSPACE to restart the display manager There's this thing that RedHat gave us called DontZap that gets in the way of that -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com This isn't RedHat. But it applies to Gentoo as well. From my xorg.conf.example on Gentoo. Right, but the latest flavor of xorg works without the requirement for a xorg.conf and therefore there's nowhere to define CrtlAltBS in the .fdi files from what I recall. Retaining a xorg.conf would be the alternative - thus keeping the old Gentoo (and every other Linux) way. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
Mick wrote: On Tuesday 07 July 2009, Dale wrote: Jacob Todd wrote: On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 11:08:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009 22:49:38 Alexander wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag 06 Juli 2009 21:33:36 schrieb Kevin O'Gorman: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? Gentoo or not, make your changes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, logout from your X session, change to a virtual console and restart the display manager (/etc/init.d/xdm restart), which also restarts X as a side effect. HTH... Dirk It is simpler to use ALT+CTL+BKSPACE to restart the display manager There's this thing that RedHat gave us called DontZap that gets in the way of that -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com This isn't RedHat. But it applies to Gentoo as well. From my xorg.conf.example on Gentoo. Right, but the latest flavor of xorg works without the requirement for a xorg.conf and therefore there's nowhere to define CrtlAltBS in the .fdi files from what I recall. Retaining a xorg.conf would be the alternative - thus keeping the old Gentoo (and every other Linux) way. True, but how many people have actually did the upgrade? I haven't yet. Also, you can have a xorg.conf still to specify the option. That may be the only thing in the file but it would still work. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:21:43 -0700 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble configuring X, and to save time I'd like to be able to shut it down, edit some stuff, and start it up again. What is the gentoo way to do that? It depends on how you started X in the first place. If you did a startx (or similar), logging out should be all you need to do to get out of X. If you use a login manager, XDM/GDM/KDM then it'll restart itself so you'll need to switch to a VT (ctrl-alt-F1) and then sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop to shut down XDM (and therefore X). You can then rmmod your video drivers or do whatever changes you want to do. sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start to bring it back up. Several of you suggested /etc/init.d/xdm start or so to get it (re)started. It doesn't work. Instead the start-stop daemon complains of not being able to stat /usr/bin/xdm which doesn't exist. And no I didn't mispell it. I've never seen this before an I'm baffled. ++ kevin Hi Kevin, This weekend I needed to stop and start X a lot because I was experimenting with running dosemu from a tty command line and the DOS application I'm running under dosemu hangs the command line. Using an ssh session (from another machine) I found that /etc/init.d/xdm stop works to stop X. However, restarting is a bit tricky since /etc/init.d/xdm start fails because of files in /var/lib/init.d/*/xdm. If one runs rm -rf /var/lib/init.d/*/xdm then runs /etc/init.d/xdm start one is good to go. HTH, David
Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop X
Synopsis: This host is running kdm. On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 06 July 2009, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: [ snip snip ] Hi, You haven't told us how you start X, which I think would make it easier to determine how to stop it. Maybe you don't use XDM at all, in which case the above suggestion wouldn't have any relevance to your situation. I haven't told you because I don't know. I do know that I was using KDE when I still had X. But I set that up over 5 years ago and I've forgotten all the details. But there's no sign of *dm in /etc/init.d, other than xdm, which acts pretty normal outside of the fact that it fails. It goes through motions, says some things work by putting [OK] in the right margin, and all that. If you tell me how to find out, I'll answer any questions. ++ kevin Look at your ps axf. If it is running via xdm you will see something like: 6403 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/xdm 6417 tty7 Ss+ 28:54 \_ /usr/bin/X :0 -nolisten tcp -br vt7 -auth /etc/X11/xdm/authdir/authfiles/A:0-bvk4xxF What I get is not much, but it appears I'm still running kdm and it's a child of init. ke...@treat ~ $ ps axf | grep dm 725 pts/6S+ 0:00 \_ grep --colour=auto dm 15372 ?Ss 0:00 kdm ke...@treat ~ $ -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
