Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Installers for Blizzard Products

2007-06-17 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Donnerstag, den 14.06.2007, 16:16 +0300 schrieb Daniel Iliev:
 On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:25:29 +1200
 Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 6/14/07, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi, guys
  
   I hope some of you won't find this message too much spam-alike.
   Today I accidentally found there is a petition on-line [1]. It
   represents a request to Blizzard to include Linux installers in
   their products. I thought the gamers from the list might be
   interested in signing that petition. Even I'm not a gamer (anymore)
   I signed it, because I hate it when big companies ignore the Linux
   community.
  
  
   [1] http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/
  
  

Even though I only play shooters now (UT series and Doom 3 [1]) - and
with increasingly larger time frames between each session - I am glad
there is pressure for Linux support. It will very surely trigger
Linux/BSD/etc. popularity, so I voted for the petition :). I hope these
kind of petitions help stop the chicken/egg problem (no support -- no
interest -- no support -- ...)

  
  I argued I don't game any more _because_ of the lack of linux games
  that were not already bored with. HIstorically, game  dev's argument
  has been along the lines of 'if they want to game,  they'll just use
  windows, or get a console'.
  
  What they don't realize, is its possible many of us have simply lost
  interest in the gaming community simply because 'just use windows'
  isn't really viable for most of us :P

That's one of the reasons I quit gaming. The last game I bought was
Gothic 3 (because I loved the first 2), which I never did finish. Note
that I'm a mere 20, so you'd think I'd still be into gaming ;).

  
[...]
 
 I lost my interest in games mostly because I have changed. There was a
 time I wouldn't miss a new game for any reason. Now I haven't seen yet
 even how does WOW look like. As I said it has nothing to do with Linux,
 Licenses, policy etc. I just lost the thrill as the years passed by.
 

This would be the other main reason I stopped gaming. Over time I just
lost interest in it. Plus, the gaming world kind of scares me... think
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/art-of-warcraft/index.php [2].

I would also like to point out that some gaming magazines are actually
pushing for native Linux support in games. I'm specifically thinking of
the German GameStar, which had 2 special issues dedicated to Linux to
date. It was the first issue with SuSE 9.1 on DVD which first got me to
try out Linux [3]. They also prefer native Linux support over Emulation,
and even said so in an editorial explicitly criticizing that some
companies are actively working toward integration with Cedega instead
of developing a native Linux version. Sadly, following my disinterest in
gaming, I canceled my subscription.

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[1] Hooray for the Gentoo Games Project!!!
[2] Should I warn about possibly not work safe content here? I don't
read that column often, but am quite sure it illustrates my point.
[3] Not just me. GameStar even has a relatively active Linux Forum:
http://www.gamestar.de/community/gspinboard/forumdisplay.php?s=943350a52e1eb42ab89fa9f19e20ce57f=45


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[ot] Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Installers for Blizzard Products

2007-06-15 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Daniel Iliev wrote:
 I lost my interest in games mostly because I have changed.

Heh, and I feel old, man! :) - A couple of days ago I installed descent3, of 
course under Gentoo,
and I got nausea. Everything was moving afterwards :P

Oh god I love descent :D

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Installers for Blizzard Products

2007-06-15 Thread b.n.
Kent Fredric ha scritto:

 I argued I don't game any more _because_ of the lack of linux games
 that were not already bored with. HIstorically, game  dev's argument
 has been along the lines of 'if they want to game,  they'll just use
 windows, or get a console'.
 
 What they don't realize, is its possible many of us have simply lost
 interest in the gaming community simply because 'just use windows'
 isn't really viable for most of us :P
 
 And emulation sucks ass, good ol starcraft is only /just/ playable in
 all the emulators i've tried :(   (Wine-family)

My luck is that all I want from gaming is freeciv. And freeciv runs on
Linux.
:)

(Yes, I know about civilization games post-version II. And they all
pretty jumped the shark, IMHO. Heck, I don't even like isometric!
FreeCiv stays simple and cool, and it's free).

m.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Installers for Blizzard Products

2007-06-14 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:25:29 +1200
Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 6/14/07, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi, guys
 
  I hope some of you won't find this message too much spam-alike.
  Today I accidentally found there is a petition on-line [1]. It
  represents a request to Blizzard to include Linux installers in
  their products. I thought the gamers from the list might be
  interested in signing that petition. Even I'm not a gamer (anymore)
  I signed it, because I hate it when big companies ignore the Linux
  community.
 
 
  [1] http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/
 
 
 +Voted
 
 I argued I don't game any more _because_ of the lack of linux games
 that were not already bored with. HIstorically, game  dev's argument
 has been along the lines of 'if they want to game,  they'll just use
 windows, or get a console'.
 
 What they don't realize, is its possible many of us have simply lost
 interest in the gaming community simply because 'just use windows'
 isn't really viable for most of us :P
 
 And emulation sucks ass, good ol starcraft is only /just/ playable in
 all the emulators i've tried :(   (Wine-family)
 
 


There is recent news on Id Software's site that the new technology
they are working on is based on Mac. More info:

http://www.idsoftware.com/

I lost my interest in games mostly because I have changed. There was a
time I wouldn't miss a new game for any reason. Now I haven't seen yet
even how does WOW look like. As I said it has nothing to do with Linux,
Licenses, policy etc. I just lost the thrill as the years passed by.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Installers for Blizzard Products

2007-06-13 Thread Kent Fredric

On 6/14/07, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, guys

I hope some of you won't find this message too much spam-alike. Today I
accidentally found there is a petition on-line [1]. It represents a
request to Blizzard to include Linux installers in their products. I
thought the gamers from the list might be interested in signing that
petition. Even I'm not a gamer (anymore) I signed it, because I hate
it when big companies ignore the Linux community.


[1] http://www.petitiononline.com/ibpfl/



+Voted

I argued I don't game any more _because_ of the lack of linux games
that were not already bored with. HIstorically, game  dev's argument
has been along the lines of 'if they want to game,  they'll just use
windows, or get a console'.

What they don't realize, is its possible many of us have simply lost
interest in the gaming community simply because 'just use windows'
isn't really viable for most of us :P

And emulation sucks ass, good ol starcraft is only /just/ playable in
all the emulators i've tried :(   (Wine-family)


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