Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm !
On Monday 10 March 2008, Dan Farrell wrote: Furthermore, it's possible we can simply have the code that runs on ubuntu's site. I have sent a mail[1] to the webmasters of ubuntu.com, hoping it will be directed to the proper feedback channels. I know hosting won't be a problem; I'm sure the gentoo web people would stick it on a box somewhere, or, failing that, give us a subdomain to work with on our own servers. I'm not a webmaster of ubuntu.com, but I'd have to say that creating a Gentoo Brainstorm website using Drupal wouldn't be difficult at all - that is, after all, what the Ubuntu folks have done: http://drupal.org/node/228222 http://drupal.org/node/228203 I don't know which module they've used exactly, but there are several that might be helpful: http://drupal.org/project/vote_up_down http://drupal.org/project/drupalit http://drupal.org/project/advpoll http://drupal.org/project/procon On a final note, let's not just copy what Ubuntu has done. Let's do it better instead, there's nothing that can't be improved. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Rodrigo Lazo wrote: | Seems like Gentoo brainstorm won't happen | | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212527 Doesn't sound like a Gentoo as a whole answer to me. The community is Gentoo. Gentoo is the community. I've re-opened the bug. All people that think this is necessary, or not [of course], GO THERE AND MAKE A COMMENT. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman Reliable inter-continental Mail Relay Service - Ask me! Independent Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH0HC9AlpOsGhXcE0RClSfAJ9YHyyh8HNDUdTk8yeUWljQjB6Y8ACaAlV5 5fTNXl8cgSFdCnYccbk9fDs= =2poe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Rodrigo Lazo wrote: | Seems like Gentoo brainstorm won't happen | | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212527 Doesn't sound like a Gentoo as a whole answer to me. The community is Gentoo. Gentoo is the community. I've re-opened the bug. All people that think this is necessary, or not [of course], GO THERE AND MAKE A COMMENT. I am of the opinion that opening a bug is not the right way to go about this. First, it is not critical. And second someone who really wants the brainstorm should code up the infrastructure and then maybe open a bug to get their work into Gentoo. I have already suggested to a friend to submit a GSoC proposal to implement a Gentoo version of brainstorm. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman Reliable inter-continental Mail Relay Service - Ask me! Independent Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH0HC9AlpOsGhXcE0RClSfAJ9YHyyh8HNDUdTk8yeUWljQjB6Y8ACaAlV5 5fTNXl8cgSFdCnYccbk9fDs= =2poe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 17:58 -0500, Rodrigo Lazo wrote: Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rodrigo Lazo wrote: | Seems like Gentoo brainstorm won't happen | | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212527 Doesn't sound like a Gentoo as a whole answer to me. The community is Gentoo. Gentoo is the community. I've re-opened the bug. All people that think this is necessary, or not [of course], GO THERE AND MAKE A COMMENT. I don't necessarily think a whole lot of me too's will help. I am of the opinion that opening a bug is not the right way to go about this. First, it is not critical. And second someone who really wants the brainstorm should code up the infrastructure and then maybe open a bug to get their work into Gentoo. As I commented on the bug report... all the work need would be port the ubuntu's app into Gentoo's look and feel. As the idea is to make the developers and the users work together on this brainstorm is important to convince the developers that it will payoff. As a side note, bugzilla is not only for bugs but also for enhancement proposals. I think that if you want to carry the idea a bit further (and don't give up just because the bug was closed) that you should solicit some help first - perhaps from gentoo-user, gentoo-dev and the forums. Secondly get a bit of a specification together that describes exactly what and why, covers some technical questions, and maybe the implementation. Then take it back to gentoo-dev and say here's the idea, here's the details, here's how it can work. Then you may get it happening for real. Remember whatever you want form the brainstorm (eg. popular features implemented) won't happen if the developers feel like it's full of demands and unreasonable expectations. I can tell you now some will like it and some won't from the start. However, if only a few devs frequently monitor it at the start, it will still be a good indication of the communities feeling. There will be lots of silent watchers. Done right I think it could be very useful. I especially like how a lot of brainstorm ideas about brainstorm itself have already been implemented, making the tool better by using the tool! http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/category/11 cya, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au [A computer is] like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no mercy. -- Joseph Campbell -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Iain Buchanan wrote: | On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 17:58 -0500, Rodrigo Lazo wrote: | Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Rodrigo Lazo wrote: | | Seems like Gentoo brainstorm won't happen | | | | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212527 | | Doesn't sound like a Gentoo as a whole answer to me. The | community is Gentoo. Gentoo is the community. | I've re-opened the bug. All people that think this is necessary, | or not [of course], GO THERE AND | MAKE A COMMENT. | | I don't necessarily think a whole lot of me too's will help. | | I am of the opinion that opening a bug is not the right way to go | about this. First, it is not critical. And second someone who really | wants the brainstorm should code up the infrastructure and then maybe | open a bug to get their work into Gentoo. | As I commented on the bug report... all the work need would be port | the ubuntu's app into Gentoo's look and feel. As the idea is to make | the developers and the users work together on this brainstorm is | important to convince the developers that it will payoff. | | As a side note, bugzilla is not only for bugs but also for | enhancement proposals. | | I think that if you want to carry the idea a bit further (and don't give | up just because the bug was closed) that you should solicit some help | first - perhaps from gentoo-user, gentoo-dev and the forums. | | Secondly get a bit of a specification together that describes exactly | what and why, covers some technical questions, and maybe the | implementation. | | Then take it back to gentoo-dev and say here's the idea, here's the | details, here's how it can work. Then you may get it happening for | real. Remember whatever you want form the brainstorm (eg. popular | features implemented) won't happen if the developers feel like it's full | of demands and unreasonable expectations. | | I can tell you now some will like it and some won't from the start. | However, if only a few devs frequently monitor it at the start, it will | still be a good indication of the communities feeling. There will be | lots of silent watchers. Done right I think it could be very useful. | | I especially like how a lot of brainstorm ideas about brainstorm itself | have already been implemented, making the tool better by using the tool! | http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/category/11 | | cya, One other thing that may be good, is someone to donate resources if need be to get the project off the ground. Us doing all the technical footwork, means very little if there is no practical application in place, something tangible to look at and evaluate. If we're going to commit to this, then we may as well go as far as we can with it, till it looks so impressive and awe-inspiring that we can't help but be flocked to, like gentoo-wiki and the forums. When I help new users into the world of Linux and Gentoo, I tell them, there are three things you should book mark, and visit frequently, gentoo.com, gentoo-wiki.com and forums.gentoo.org, why shouldn't this be any different. Chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH0Jsk8hUIAnGfls4RAigfAJ9cPM8YFoESBIitSOED9u9Y9pPoMQCdFKaW oiH82zn/OUOMNEgVlP6JaZ0= =HTzJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
