Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE Plasma 5 moved to stable

2016-04-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 15/04/2016 15:09, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 15/04/16 16:06, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 15/04/2016 15:00, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>> On 15/04/16 01:10, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
 We even had the choice of installing both KDE3 and 4 at the same time.
 That
 made transition far easier and it allowed me to get settled in due
 time. So
 I'm not particularly worried about the next few months, especially
 with the
 modularity and interchangeability of today's KDE components.
>>>
>>> You cannot install KDE5 without uninstalling KDE4.
>>>
>>> I was told this is an upstream decision, not Gentoo's fault.
>>>
>>
>> Partially true.
>>
>> It's plasma 4 and 5 that cannot co-exist, not KDE
> 
> Yeah, KDE. ;-)
> 
> I mean common, when people say KDE, they mean the desktop, not kcalc or
> koffice or kmail.



h, not convinced, "you know what I mean" doesn't cut it. This list
is largely populated with high-clue people who understand the meaning of
words and know that plasma != KDE

Around here, KDE usually means kde-apps and plasma means plasma.
We also know that firefox is not gekco and all sorts of other "you know
what I actually mean" opportunities to trip up

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE Plasma 5 moved to stable

2016-04-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 15/04/2016 15:00, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 15/04/16 01:10, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>> We even had the choice of installing both KDE3 and 4 at the same time.
>> That
>> made transition far easier and it allowed me to get settled in due
>> time. So
>> I'm not particularly worried about the next few months, especially
>> with the
>> modularity and interchangeability of today's KDE components.
> 
> You cannot install KDE5 without uninstalling KDE4.
> 
> I was told this is an upstream decision, not Gentoo's fault.
> 
> 

Partially true.

It's plasma 4 and 5 that cannot co-exist, not KDE

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE Plasma 5 moved to stable

2016-04-14 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 04:37:05AM +1000, Michael Palimaka wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On 11/04/16 20:34, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Saturday 09 April 2016 11:12:51 Mick wrote:
> >> I noticed today that Plasma 5 is now stable, which means I will soon have
> >> to deal with it.
> > 
> > I saw that too, and it cast a gloom over the rest of my day. I intend to 
> > stick 
> > with KDE-4 until some more sensible themes become available in Plasma 5, so 
> > I 
> > hope someone will be keeping an archive of KDE-4 somewhere, as in the 
> > earlier 
> > case of KDE 3 -> 4.
> 
> While both Plasma 4 and even Qt 4 are end-of-life upstream, I don't
> think they're going anywhere quite yet. There's no pressing need to
> remove it yet, and there's still a long way to go in terms of porting in
> the Qt ecosystem in general.
> 
> When it is eventually removed, I also don't see any reason why Qt 4 and
> KDE 4 can't go to the kde-sunset overlay along with 3.

What I loved about Gentoo in the olden days was that it was one of the very
few distros that still kept KDE3 in its normal repos for a long time, while
many other popular binary distros jumped on the band wagon as early as 4.1,
when it was barely usable and full of trivial bugs.

We even had the choice of installing both KDE3 and 4 at the same time. That
made transition far easier and it allowed me to get settled in due time. So
I'm not particularly worried about the next few months, especially with the
modularity and interchangeability of today's KDE components.

Thank you for that, devs and maintainers. Good night.
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