Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: --Sig_/TRElrs3oa099GBUkPVLmB/I Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:11:55 -0400, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: Apparently not everyone who uses kmail has the problem. Maybe it's the people who use html mail? Neil Bothwick's posts often have the =3D=3D20, but usually just one or two. Some posts are positively riddled with them, to the point of=20 being terribly difficult to parse. Everytime I look at the headers of such a post it says kmail, but=20 not every kmail user has the problem.=20 That's intriguing, considering it's been many years since I used KMail. The =3D20 is usually caused by a quoted-printable message, meaning either your newsreader cannot handle quoted-printable or the mail-to-news gateway is screwing it up. --=20 Neil Bothwick WinErr 01C: Uncertainty error - Uncertainty may be inadequate. --Sig_/TRElrs3oa099GBUkPVLmB/I Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk2RCc4ACgkQum4al0N1GQMW0gCfUWbfcTsR0qud/emp2jPLKp+w vTYAmgMURy8e9zJU1XSI0ZRv6Lhi7m/P =84Zr -END PGP SIGNATURE- --Sig_/TRElrs3oa099GBUkPVLmB/I-- I see you're using claws, sorry -- guess I misremembered. You can see an =20 though in the quote, there at your sig delimiter? It appears to replace the trailing space, so that your sig is not delimited and shows in the quote. Anyway, apologies to the kmail users. Probably the mail2news is the culprit, as I've used slrn for usenet for years and have it working extremely well on every other group. Later I'll try setting up mutt for nntp just for this one group, as it can pipe through lynx. Maybe that'll be easier to read. -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, this is the person I want to sit next to.
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On 3/28/2011 6:20 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:11:55 -0400, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: Apparently not everyone who uses kmail has the problem. Maybe it's the people who use html mail? Neil Bothwick's posts often have the ==20, but usually just one or two. Some posts are positively riddled with them, to the point of being terribly difficult to parse. Everytime I look at the headers of such a post it says kmail, but not every kmail user has the problem. That's intriguing, considering it's been many years since I used KMail. The =20 is usually caused by a quoted-printable message, meaning either your newsreader cannot handle quoted-printable or the mail-to-news gateway is screwing it up. It's not KMail, it's your OpenPGP signature. Attaching the signature switches your mail from text/plain to multipart/signed, and the mail client switches to quoted-printable for the text part of the message. However, there does seem to be some kind of problem with the mail-to-news gateway. The quoted-printable soft-return sequence is =20, but it's being turned into ==20 somewhere along the way. slrn *does* support quoted-printable messages, if they were well-formed quoted printable :) For reference, this is what your mail looks like coming over SMTP; note the lack of ==20 anywhere: --Sig_/TRElrs3oa099GBUkPVLmB/I Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:11:55 -0400, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: Apparently not everyone who uses kmail has the problem. Maybe it's the people who use html mail? Neil Bothwick's posts often have the =3D=3D20, but usually just one or two. Some posts are positively riddled with them, to the point of=20 being terribly difficult to parse. Everytime I look at the headers of such a post it says kmail, but=20 not every kmail user has the problem.=20 That's intriguing, considering it's been many years since I used KMail. The =3D20 is usually caused by a quoted-printable message, meaning either your newsreader cannot handle quoted-printable or the mail-to-news gateway is screwing it up. --=20 Neil Bothwick
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
You're right - could the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS be only used for the troublesome packages? On 27 March 2011 22:54, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:25:18 +0100, JM wrote: You can allow it to install the masked packages by typing: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge --update --deep world That will update every package to the latest ~x86 version, and cause them all to downgrade again the next time you emerge world. As this includes packages that are both critical and hate being downgraded, like glibc, this is a really bad idea. You would have to really hate someone to want to put them through this. -- Neil Bothwick Meow SPLAT! Woof SPLAT!Jeez, it's really raining today.
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:23:15 +0100, JM wrote: You're right - could the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS be only used for the troublesome packages? Yes, by setting in in portage.accept_keywords. BTW - to-posting is frowned upon on this list. -- Neil Bothwick Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
to-posting? Am I using the wrong email address for replying to the list? Please excuse my ignorance :) On 28 March 2011 09:32, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:23:15 +0100, JM wrote: You're right - could the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS be only used for the troublesome packages? Yes, by setting in in portage.accept_keywords. BTW - to-posting is frowned upon on this list. -- Neil Bothwick Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue.
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On Monday 28 March 2011 09:43:47 JM wrote: to-posting? Neil meant to say top-posting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style and http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html (there are many links if you google about netiquette and usenet etiquette). BTW, some typos like Neil's are allowed to keep the rest of us on our toes. ;-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:43:47 +0100, JM wrote: to-posting? Am I using the wrong email address for replying to the list? Please excuse my ignorance :) No, I'm using a new netbook with a less sensitive keyboard than the old one. I meant top-posting. On 28 March 2011 09:32, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:23:15 +0100, JM wrote: You're right - could the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS be only used for the troublesome packages? Yes, by setting in in portage.accept_keywords. BTW - to-posting is frowned upon on this list. -- Neil Bothwick C:\DOS\SYSTEM\BATCH\UTILS\API\DOCS\READ\STORED\WHERE\THE\HELL\AM\I\? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On 28 March 2011 10:11, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 28 March 2011 09:43:47 JM wrote: to-posting? Neil meant to say top-posting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style and http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html (there are many links if you google about netiquette and usenet etiquette). BTW, some typos like Neil's are allowed to keep the rest of us on our toes. ;-) -- Regards, Mick lol - I'll ask google to alter gmail for me :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: --20cf3054aa33c36405049f87abd7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 28 March 2011 10:11, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 28 March 2011 09:43:47 JM wrote: to-posting? Neil meant to say top-posting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style and http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html (there are many links if you google about netiquette and usenet etiquette). BTW, some typos like Neil's are allowed to keep the rest of us on our toes. ;-) -- Regards, Mick lol - I'll ask google to alter gmail for me :) It hardly matters I'm sure, since those of us who read this list on usenet with slrn can easily see the incompetent mess kmail makes of mail. Yet it's what most here seem to prefer for some weird reason. But yes, top posting does suck -- almost as badly as all the ==20 crap polluting all the kmail users' messages. Almost. :) -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, this is the person I want to sit next to.
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On Monday 28 March 2011 18:27:03 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: But yes, top posting does suck -- almost as badly as all the ==20 crap polluting all the kmail users' messages. Almost. Would you mind sending me an example of this from me and my kmail? -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
In linux.gentoo.user, Peter Humphries wrote: On Monday 28 March 2011 18:27:03 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: But yes, top posting does suck -- almost as badly as all the ==20 crap polluting all the kmail users' messages. Almost. Would you mind sending me an example of this from me and my kmail? Apparently not everyone who uses kmail has the problem. Maybe it's the people who use html mail? Neil Bothwick's posts often have the ==20, but usually just one or two. Some posts are positively riddled with them, to the point of being terribly difficult to parse. Everytime I look at the headers of such a post it says kmail, but not every kmail user has the problem. It's also possible the nix-to-news gateway handles html poorly. Obviously, slrn is not supposed to handle html (which is how I like it). Overall the usenet experience of this list is poor, but of course the content is extremely useful. I just don't want all the email, because it'll end up on my phone and it'll cost me. Probably in the end I'll just end up reading it in a web browser. Lowest Common Denominator these days I guess... **sigh** -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, this is the person I want to sit next to.
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe ela...@southernstarsolutions.com wrote: In linux.gentoo.user, Peter Humphries wrote: On Monday 28 March 2011 18:27:03 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: But yes, top posting does suck -- almost as badly as all the ==20 crap polluting all the kmail users' messages. Almost. Would you mind sending me an example of this from me and my kmail? Apparently not everyone who uses kmail has the problem. Maybe it's the people who use html mail? The ==20 stuff is a result of quoted-printable MIME encoding. It does not have anything to do with HTML but they can usually be found as partners in crime...
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe ela...@southernstarsolutions.com wrote: In linux.gentoo.user, Peter Humphries wrote: On Monday 28 March 2011 18:27:03 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: But yes, top posting does suck -- almost as badly as all the ==20 crap polluting all the kmail users' messages. Almost. Would you mind sending me an example of this from me and my kmail? Apparently not everyone who uses kmail has the problem. Maybe it's the people who use html mail? The ==20 stuff is a result of quoted-printable MIME encoding. It does not have anything to do with HTML but they can usually be found as partners in crime... Thanks for the info. Oddly, it's mostly non-geeky folks like my Mom who send me confusing mails with weird encoding issues or html with inscrutable characters. Surprised to see it here, usenet being a text medium and all. But perhaps there are a lot of members who don't know, use, or care about nntp. And maybe the gateway is merely semi-adequate at stripping non- text. Well, it's just one of those things we have to live with, I guess, like my mother's emails with links to scam sites and explaining again and again how to use google. Such a burden, being exceptionally competent, isn't it? :) -- ...she kept arranging and rearranging the rabbit and kind of waving to it. I decided, this is the person I want to sit next to.
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On Monday 28 March 2011 20:25:41 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: Such a burden, being exceptionally competent, isn't it? If you say so... :-) -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:11:55 -0400, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: Apparently not everyone who uses kmail has the problem. Maybe it's the people who use html mail? Neil Bothwick's posts often have the ==20, but usually just one or two. Some posts are positively riddled with them, to the point of being terribly difficult to parse. Everytime I look at the headers of such a post it says kmail, but not every kmail user has the problem. That's intriguing, considering it's been many years since I used KMail. The =20 is usually caused by a quoted-printable message, meaning either your newsreader cannot handle quoted-printable or the mail-to-news gateway is screwing it up. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 01C: Uncertainty error - Uncertainty may be inadequate. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
According to my local portage mirror, kipi-plugins-1.9.0 is currently ~x86. There's probably a stray line in your /etc/portage/package.keywords which unmasks kipi-plugins-1.9.0. The latest stable is kipi-plugins-1.2.0-r3 which is happy with libkexiv2-4.4.5-r1, which in turn is stable for x86. -rz See output below. I understand what this is telling me. However, the issue is if I unmask libkexiv2 and kipi-plugins, I get further messages about some other kde package that is masked by ~x86 keyword. And this goes on continuously. If I do emerge --pretend --update --deep --skip-first world, the second set of output is provided and this causes other problems - for instance, there are a whole whack of packages that depend on gettext. I haven't been able to update my system in well over a month. I keep hoping a sync will somehow miraculously correct my problem. Anyone have any ideas how to get around this? penguinchick ~ # emerge --pretend --update --deep world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5[aqua=] have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.6.1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.6.0 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5.5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) (dependency required by media-plugins/kipi-plugins-1.9.0 [ebuild]) (dependency required by @selected) (dependency required by @world [argument]) For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. - penguinchick ~ # emerge --pretend --update --deep --skip-first world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! One or more packages have been dropped due to !!! masking or unsatisfied dependencies: (sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1.1-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge) (dev-python/pygtksourceview-2.10.1, ebuild scheduled for merge) (dev-vcs/git-1.7.3.4-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge) [ebuild U ] sys-apps/attr-2.4.44 [2.4.43] [ebuild U ] sys-devel/bison-2.4.2 [2.4.1] [ebuild U ] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.80 [0.71] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 [8.5] [ebuild U ] sys-libs/pam-1.1.3 [1.1.1-r2]
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
You can allow it to install the masked packages by typing: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge --update --deep world (you can also use --keep-going, instead of --skip-first and it will try and continue when it finds errors). Actually, you can only use ~x86 if you are using an i686 or whatever (no good for amd or other arch's). Some correct me if I'm wrong, or have I misunderstood the problem? On 27 March 2011 19:50, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, See output below. I understand what this is telling me. However, the issue is if I unmask libkexiv2 and kipi-plugins, I get further messages about some other kde package that is masked by ~x86 keyword. And this goes on continuously. If I do emerge --pretend --update --deep --skip-first world, the second set of output is provided and this causes other problems - for instance, there are a whole whack of packages that depend on gettext. I haven't been able to update my system in well over a month. I keep hoping a sync will somehow miraculously correct my problem. Anyone have any ideas how to get around this? penguinchick ~ # emerge --pretend --update --deep world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5[aqua=] have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.6.1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.6.0 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5.5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) (dependency required by media-plugins/kipi-plugins-1.9.0 [ebuild]) (dependency required by @selected) (dependency required by @world [argument]) For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. - penguinchick ~ # emerge --pretend --update --deep --skip-first world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! One or more packages have been dropped due to !!! masking or unsatisfied dependencies: (sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1.1-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge) (dev-python/pygtksourceview-2.10.1, ebuild scheduled for merge) (dev-vcs/git-1.7.3.4-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge) [ebuild U ] sys-apps/attr-2.4.44 [2.4.43] [ebuild U ] sys-devel/bison-2.4.2 [2.4.1] [ebuild U ] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.80 [0.71] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 [8.5] [ebuild U ] sys-libs/pam-1.1.3 [1.1.1-r2] v Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:25:18 +0100, JM wrote: You can allow it to install the masked packages by typing: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge --update --deep world That will update every package to the latest ~x86 version, and cause them all to downgrade again the next time you emerge world. As this includes packages that are both critical and hate being downgraded, like glibc, this is a really bad idea. You would have to really hate someone to want to put them through this. -- Neil Bothwick Meow SPLAT! Woof SPLAT!Jeez, it's really raining today. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On 03/27/11 21:54, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:25:18 +0100, JM wrote: You can allow it to install the masked packages by typing: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge --update --deep world That will update every package to the latest ~x86 version, and cause them all to downgrade again the next time you emerge world. As this includes packages that are both critical and hate being downgraded, like glibc, this is a really bad idea. You would have to really hate someone to want to put them through this. Okay, I see your point. I don't make a habit of unmasking packages. However, as stated in my previous message, I can't get past the kde ~x86 updates to update other packages that might have valid stable updates. I don't care if kde updates to an unstable version, I would just like to get past it so I can see what else needs to be updated. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On 03/27/11 19:21, Roman Zilka wrote: According to my local portage mirror, kipi-plugins-1.9.0 is currently ~x86. There's probably a stray line in your /etc/portage/package.keywords which unmasks kipi-plugins-1.9.0. The latest stable is kipi-plugins-1.2.0-r3 which is happy with libkexiv2-4.4.5-r1, which in turn is stable for x86. That *was* the case, but I commented the line out and it still didn't solve the problem -rz See output below. I understand what this is telling me. However, the issue is if I unmask libkexiv2 and kipi-plugins, I get further messages about some other kde package that is masked by ~x86 keyword. And this goes on continuously. If I do emerge --pretend --update --deep --skip-first world, the second set of output is provided and this causes other problems - for instance, there are a whole whack of packages that depend on gettext. I haven't been able to update my system in well over a month. I keep hoping a sync will somehow miraculously correct my problem. Anyone have any ideas how to get around this? penguinchick ~ # emerge --pretend --update --deep world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5[aqua=] have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.6.1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.6.0 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5.5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) (dependency required by media-plugins/kipi-plugins-1.9.0 [ebuild]) (dependency required by @selected) (dependency required by @world [argument]) For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. - penguinchick ~ # emerge --pretend --update --deep --skip-first world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! One or more packages have been dropped due to !!! masking or unsatisfied dependencies: (sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1.1-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge) (dev-python/pygtksourceview-2.10.1, ebuild scheduled for merge) (dev-vcs/git-1.7.3.4-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge) [ebuild U ] sys-apps/attr-2.4.44 [2.4.43] [ebuild U ] sys-devel/bison-2.4.2 [2.4.1] [ebuild U ] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.80 [0.71] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 [8.5] [ebuild U ] sys-libs/pam-1.1.3 [1.1.1-r2] -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On Sunday 27 March 2011 18:50:36 CJoeB wrote: Hi All, See output below. I understand what this is telling me. However, the issue is if I unmask libkexiv2 and kipi-plugins, I get further messages about some other kde package that is masked by ~x86 keyword. And this goes on continuously. I suspect a dodgy entry in /etc/portage somewhere. What's the output of: grep -r libkexiv2 /etc/portage* grep ACCEPT_KEYWORDS /etc/make.conf If I do emerge --pretend --update --deep --skip-first world, the second set of output is provided and this causes other problems - for instance, there are a whole whack of packages that depend on gettext. I haven't been able to update my system in well over a month. I keep hoping a sync will somehow miraculously correct my problem. Anyone have any ideas how to get around this? penguinchick ~ # emerge --pretend --update --deep world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5[aqua=] have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.6.1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.6.0 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5.5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) (dependency required by media-plugins/kipi-plugins-1.9.0 [ebuild]) (dependency required by @selected) (dependency required by @world [argument]) For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. - penguinchick ~ # emerge --pretend --update --deep --skip-first world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! One or more packages have been dropped due to !!! masking or unsatisfied dependencies: (sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1.1-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge) (dev-python/pygtksourceview-2.10.1, ebuild scheduled for merge) (dev-vcs/git-1.7.3.4-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge) [ebuild U ] sys-apps/attr-2.4.44 [2.4.43] [ebuild U ] sys-devel/bison-2.4.2 [2.4.1] [ebuild U ] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.80 [0.71] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 [8.5] [ebuild U ] sys-libs/pam-1.1.3 [1.1.1-r2] v Regards, Colleen -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On 03/27/11 22:25, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 27 March 2011 18:50:36 CJoeB wrote: Hi All, See output below. I understand what this is telling me. However, the issue is if I unmask libkexiv2 and kipi-plugins, I get further messages about some other kde package that is masked by ~x86 keyword. And this goes on continuously. I suspect a dodgy entry in /etc/portage somewhere. What's the output of: grep -r libkexiv2 /etc/portage* grep ACCEPT_KEYWORDS /etc/make.conf I didn't get any output. If I do emerge --pretend --update --deep --skip-first world, the second set of output is provided and this causes other problems - for instance, there are a whole whack of packages that depend on gettext. I haven't been able to update my system in well over a month. I keep hoping a sync will somehow miraculously correct my problem. Anyone have any ideas how to get around this? penguinchick ~ # emerge --pretend --update --deep world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5[aqua=] have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.6.1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.6.0 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5.5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) (dependency required by media-plugins/kipi-plugins-1.9.0 [ebuild]) (dependency required by @selected) (dependency required by @world [argument]) For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. - penguinchick ~ # emerge --pretend --update --deep --skip-first world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! One or more packages have been dropped due to !!! masking or unsatisfied dependencies: (sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1.1-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge) (dev-python/pygtksourceview-2.10.1, ebuild scheduled for merge) (dev-vcs/git-1.7.3.4-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge) [ebuild U ] sys-apps/attr-2.4.44 [2.4.43] [ebuild U ] sys-devel/bison-2.4.2 [2.4.1] [ebuild U ] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.80 [0.71] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 [8.5] [ebuild U ] sys-libs/pam-1.1.3 [1.1.1-r2] v Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:42 AM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/27/11 22:25, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 27 March 2011 18:50:36 CJoeB wrote: Hi All, See output below. I understand what this is telling me. However, the issue is if I unmask libkexiv2 and kipi-plugins, I get further messages about some other kde package that is masked by ~x86 keyword. And this goes on continuously. I suspect a dodgy entry in /etc/portage somewhere. What's the output of: grep -r libkexiv2 /etc/portage* grep ACCEPT_KEYWORDS /etc/make.conf I didn't get any output. OK, So it's not that. And you are running a stable (x86) system. In your case, unstable kipi-plugins is trying to install unstable libkexiv2. It's normally digikam that pulls in kipi-plugins, so we need to find out why. You might have once installed an unstable digikam to try some new feature, so grep -r for digikam and kipi-plugins in /etc/portage. If that doesn't reveal the problem, time for big guns: emerge -pvuNDt world will show what is pulling those unstable versions in. But whatever you do, don't do a ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge ... to try and resolve it. That will install even more unstable packages and make the problem worse. You need to find the unwanted unstable package you already have and downgrade it . If I do emerge --pretend --update --deep --skip-first world, the second set of output is provided and this causes other problems - for instance, there are a whole whack of packages that depend on gettext. I haven't been able to update my system in well over a month. I keep hoping a sync will somehow miraculously correct my problem. Anyone have any ideas how to get around this? penguinchick ~ # emerge --pretend --update --deep world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5[aqua=] have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.6.1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.6.0 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) - kde-base/libkexiv2-4.5.5 (masked by: ~x86 keyword) (dependency required by media-plugins/kipi-plugins-1.9.0 [ebuild]) (dependency required by @selected) (dependency required by @world [argument]) For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. - penguinchick ~ # emerge --pretend --update --deep --skip-first world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! !!! One or more packages have been dropped due to !!! masking or unsatisfied dependencies: (sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1.1-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge) (dev-python/pygtksourceview-2.10.1, ebuild scheduled for merge) (dev-vcs/git-1.7.3.4-r1, ebuild scheduled for merge) [ebuild U ] sys-apps/attr-2.4.44 [2.4.43] [ebuild U ] sys-devel/bison-2.4.2 [2.4.1] [ebuild U ] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.80 [0.71] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 [8.5] [ebuild U ] sys-libs/pam-1.1.3 [1.1.1-r2] v Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:42 PM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/27/11 22:25, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 27 March 2011 18:50:36 CJoeB wrote: Hi All, See output below. I understand what this is telling me. However, the issue is if I unmask libkexiv2 and kipi-plugins, I get further messages about some other kde package that is masked by ~x86 keyword. And this goes on continuously. I suspect a dodgy entry in /etc/portage somewhere. What's the output of: grep -r libkexiv2 /etc/portage* grep ACCEPT_KEYWORDS /etc/make.conf I didn't get any output. Have you tried to trace back through the list of depends to see exactly what kicks this off? equery depends kipi-plugins should tell you exactly which packages are trying to pull this in. When you get a list of programs then you try to trace those back, one at a time, looking for what program/use flag combo is causing this. All my machines are 64-bit so I don't use ~x86. Looking at eix there does seem to be a stable version of kipi-plugins so determining if and why you are trying to get the testing version is clearly the issue. mark@c2stable ~ $ eix kipi-plugins * media-plugins/kipi-plugins Available versions: (4) 1.2.0-r3 ~1.9.0 {aqua calendar cdr crypt debug expoblending handbook +imagemagick ipod kdeenablefinal linguas_ar linguas_ast linguas_be linguas_bg linguas_ca linguas_ca@valencia linguas_cs linguas_da linguas_de linguas_el linguas_en_GB linguas_eo linguas_es linguas_et linguas_eu linguas_fi linguas_fr linguas_ga linguas_gl linguas_he linguas_hi linguas_hne linguas_hr linguas_hu linguas_is linguas_it linguas_ja linguas_km linguas_ko linguas_lt linguas_lv linguas_mai linguas_ms linguas_nb linguas_nds linguas_nl linguas_nn linguas_oc linguas_pa linguas_pl linguas_pt linguas_pt_BR linguas_ro linguas_ru linguas_se linguas_sk linguas_sv linguas_th linguas_tr linguas_uk linguas_zh_CN linguas_zh_TW mjpeg opengl redeyes scanner} Homepage:http://www.kipi-plugins.org Description: Plugins for the KDE Image Plugin Interface mark@c2stable ~ $ Also, I'm sorry if I missed this but I don't see what profile you are running? - Mark - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Updating world
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 22:09:15 +, CJoeB wrote: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge --update --deep world That will update every package to the latest ~x86 version, and cause them all to downgrade again the next time you emerge world. As this includes packages that are both critical and hate being downgraded, like glibc, this is a really bad idea. You would have to really hate someone to want to put them through this. Okay, I see your point. I don't make a habit of unmasking packages. However, as stated in my previous message, I can't get past the kde ~x86 updates to update other packages that might have valid stable updates. I don't care if kde updates to an unstable version, I would just like to get past it so I can see what else needs to be updated. The command suggested would only switch KDE to testing, it would switch your whole system, a step that is extremely difficult to reverse without reinstallation. If you can't find a culprit in /etc/portage, as already suggested, try renaming that directory and running .emerge -puDN world to see if it still happens. Stable packages shouldn't depend on testing packages so either you have a setting in /etc/portage that is causing this or a buggy ebuild. Another possibility is that this is caused by something in an overlay, which you can quickly test by commenting out any OVERLAY or layman entries in make.conf. -- Neil Bothwick I can't walk on water, but I can stagger on alcohol. signature.asc Description: PGP signature