Re: [gentoo-user] Visited web sites

2005-11-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 20:40:02 -0800
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/5/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 19:48:04 -0800
  Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On 11/5/05, gentuxx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Mark Knecht wrote:
   
Hi,
 My wife is asking if there is an easy way to keep a list of all web
sites visited on a specific computer in the house. I don't know about
such stuff. Is there any way to do that for either Mozilla or Firefox?

Thanks,
Mark

It would depend on how your home network is set up.  A squid proxy
could work for you.  What are you trying to accomplish?
   
   Thanks. I'll look into squid. I guess with squid all of that machine's
   requests go to this machine and then it forwards stuff on, keeping a
   record? Is that the basic idea?
  
   If so, does that mean that all traffic for the machine in question
   actually does through the squid machine? If so that might mean too
   much wireless traffic the way we are set up.
 
  yes thats the point of squid it is a proxy.
 
 OK, but that's like using the word in the definition to a guy who's
 never used a proxy. ;-)
 
 I'm still unclear though, and I'm sure I'll find this out either
 through reading or use. do all packets for the machine using the proxy
 go through the proxy? Or is it more like a DNS server where just the
 URL's go through the proxy to figure out what to do?
 
 Right now the machine under observation is on one wireless leg. The
 one machine that's on all the time is on anothe wireless leg. Neither
 is directly tied to the cable modem. If the traffic pattern looks like
 
 M_OBSERVE - router - M_SQUID - router - Internet - router -
 M_SQUID - router - M_OBSERVE

I use ipcop as my internet gateway/router, so all traffic goes through
it, and thats where I run squid. ipcop does it all for you, and you
might be interested in the copplus addon or the squidguard addon from
http://firewalladdons.sourceforge.net/

 
 The I created a lot of extra wireless traffic, especially since the
 machine being observed seems to like to watch a lot of gaming videos.
 If it's just addresses, then no big deal. If it's the whole data
 stream then it's not going to work well.
 
 On the other hand I have a MythTV frontend that is not always turned
 on but could be, I suppose, which is on the router, as are a few of my
 audio machines. I'm loath to start putting this stuff on machines in
 my studio
 
 
 
 
  
   Or is it just the addresses that are proxied?
  
   As for purpose, as I said earlier my wife wants to know all web sites
   that a certain computer on our network visits over time.
 
  trouble with the kids?
 
 :-)
 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Visited web sites

2005-11-06 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 20:40:02 -0800
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  yes thats the point of squid it is a proxy.
 
 OK, but that's like using the word in the definition to a guy who's
 never used a proxy. ;-)
 
 I'm still unclear though, and I'm sure I'll find this out either
 through reading or use. do all packets for the machine using the proxy
 go through the proxy? Or is it more like a DNS server where just the
 URL's go through the proxy to figure out what to do?

No, it forwards all traffic. And there's another thing: You'd have to
configure it at the target computer. That is, one can deconfigure it...
but read below, there's an option...

 The I created a lot of extra wireless traffic, especially since the
 machine being observed seems to like to watch a lot of gaming videos.
 If it's just addresses, then no big deal. If it's the whole data
 stream then it's not going to work well.

Well, in order to log the traffic, you'll have to intercept it.

Probably, a text filtering firewall looking for --dport 80 and
HTTP/1. at the start of the packet would suffice. You can even use a
firewall to make your proxy into a transparent proxy - i.e., all
traffic is intercepted at network level and redirected through the
proxy. This only works if the firewalling computer is at router level.

Maybe another idea would be to just sniff the WLAN in monitor mode and
use a packet filter to match TCP:80/HTTP packets.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Visited web sites

2005-11-05 Thread C. Beamer
Mark Knecht wrote:

Hi,
   My wife is asking if there is an easy way to keep a list of all web
sites visited on a specific computer in the house. I don't know about
such stuff. Is there any way to do that for either Mozilla or Firefox?
  

In Firefox:  Edit -- Preferences --  Select the Privancy Icon and
then click the + sign beside History.  You can enter the number of days
that you want to retain history for sites visited.  Enter a number of
days that you think is appropriate.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Visited web sites

2005-11-05 Thread gentuxx
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Mark Knecht wrote:

Hi,
 My wife is asking if there is an easy way to keep a list of all web
sites visited on a specific computer in the house. I don't know about
such stuff. Is there any way to do that for either Mozilla or Firefox?

Thanks,
Mark

It would depend on how your home network is set up.  A squid proxy
could work for you.  What are you trying to accomplish?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Visited web sites

2005-11-05 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/5/05, gentuxx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Mark Knecht wrote:

 Hi,
  My wife is asking if there is an easy way to keep a list of all web
 sites visited on a specific computer in the house. I don't know about
 such stuff. Is there any way to do that for either Mozilla or Firefox?
 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 
 It would depend on how your home network is set up.  A squid proxy
 could work for you.  What are you trying to accomplish?

Thanks. I'll look into squid. I guess with squid all of that machine's
requests go to this machine and then it forwards stuff on, keeping a
record? Is that the basic idea?

If so, does that mean that all traffic for the machine in question
actually does through the squid machine? If so that might mean too
much wireless traffic the way we are set up.

Or is it just the addresses that are proxied?

As for purpose, as I said earlier my wife wants to know all web sites
that a certain computer on our network visits over time.

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Visited web sites

2005-11-05 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 19:48:04 -0800
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/5/05, gentuxx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  Mark Knecht wrote:
 
  Hi,
   My wife is asking if there is an easy way to keep a list of all web
  sites visited on a specific computer in the house. I don't know about
  such stuff. Is there any way to do that for either Mozilla or Firefox?
  
  Thanks,
  Mark
  
  It would depend on how your home network is set up.  A squid proxy
  could work for you.  What are you trying to accomplish?
 
 Thanks. I'll look into squid. I guess with squid all of that machine's
 requests go to this machine and then it forwards stuff on, keeping a
 record? Is that the basic idea?
 
 If so, does that mean that all traffic for the machine in question
 actually does through the squid machine? If so that might mean too
 much wireless traffic the way we are set up.

yes thats the point of squid it is a proxy.



 
 Or is it just the addresses that are proxied?
 
 As for purpose, as I said earlier my wife wants to know all web sites
 that a certain computer on our network visits over time.

trouble with the kids?

 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Visited web sites

2005-11-05 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/5/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 19:48:04 -0800
 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 11/5/05, gentuxx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
  
   Mark Knecht wrote:
  
   Hi,
My wife is asking if there is an easy way to keep a list of all web
   sites visited on a specific computer in the house. I don't know about
   such stuff. Is there any way to do that for either Mozilla or Firefox?
   
   Thanks,
   Mark
   
   It would depend on how your home network is set up.  A squid proxy
   could work for you.  What are you trying to accomplish?
  
  Thanks. I'll look into squid. I guess with squid all of that machine's
  requests go to this machine and then it forwards stuff on, keeping a
  record? Is that the basic idea?
 
  If so, does that mean that all traffic for the machine in question
  actually does through the squid machine? If so that might mean too
  much wireless traffic the way we are set up.

 yes thats the point of squid it is a proxy.

OK, but that's like using the word in the definition to a guy who's
never used a proxy. ;-)

I'm still unclear though, and I'm sure I'll find this out either
through reading or use. do all packets for the machine using the proxy
go through the proxy? Or is it more like a DNS server where just the
URL's go through the proxy to figure out what to do?

Right now the machine under observation is on one wireless leg. The
one machine that's on all the time is on anothe wireless leg. Neither
is directly tied to the cable modem. If the traffic pattern looks like

M_OBSERVE - router - M_SQUID - router - Internet - router -
M_SQUID - router - M_OBSERVE

The I created a lot of extra wireless traffic, especially since the
machine being observed seems to like to watch a lot of gaming videos.
If it's just addresses, then no big deal. If it's the whole data
stream then it's not going to work well.

On the other hand I have a MythTV frontend that is not always turned
on but could be, I suppose, which is on the router, as are a few of my
audio machines. I'm loath to start putting this stuff on machines in
my studio




 
  Or is it just the addresses that are proxied?
 
  As for purpose, as I said earlier my wife wants to know all web sites
  that a certain computer on our network visits over time.

 trouble with the kids?

:-)

Thanks,
Mark

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