Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-03 Thread n952162

On 10/02/20 16:25, David M. Fellows wrote:

On 2020-10-02 10:45, n952162 wrote:

Have I successfully updated my system?

I ran this command:

emerge \
     -v \
     --verbose-conflicts \
     --deep \
     -update \
     --changed-use \
     --keep-going \
     --with-bdeps=y \
     --changed-deps \
     --backtrack=100 \
     @world

and got tons of stuff that looks like spurious debugging/tracing info

Probably not.  And a good thing too.
Assuming the above is an accurate transcription of the command you used.

-update is definitely NOT the same as --update.

-update is equivalent to -u -p -d -a -t -e
so --update --pretend --debug --ask --tree --empty-tree
--debug, --tree produce voluminous output,
--empty-tree says rebuild everything.

Hope this helps.

DaveF




Yes, now my emerge is failing again in the way I'd expected it to fail  ;-)
Thank you for debugging for me :-)





Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-03 Thread n952162

On 10/02/20 12:40, John Covici wrote:


Did you actually do the emerge i.e. answer the question  at the end
about do you wish to emerge these packages?


:-)
The first time I ran my script, I wondered if I'd actually indeed forget
to simply accept like you  said, and ran it again ...




Also, I would not get quite so much detail in your output by emering
like this:
script -c "emerge --update --deep --changed-use --with-bdeps=y
--keep-going --backtrack=500 --verbose-conflicts world"
/usr/src/world_update.txt

I always like to use a script because I like to look at output before
emerging.



Thanks for the tip about the -c option ... I also use script(1) for the
reason you point out, but using the -c option saves a step.




Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-03 Thread n952162

On 2020-10-02 17:49, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 11:25:54 -0300, David M. Fellows wrote:


Assuming the above is an accurate transcription of the command you used.

-update is definitely NOT the same as --update.

-update is equivalent to -u -p -d -a -t -e

Nice catch :-)




:-)  Indeed!




Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 11:25:54 -0300, David M. Fellows wrote:

> Assuming the above is an accurate transcription of the command you used.
> 
> -update is definitely NOT the same as --update.
> 
> -update is equivalent to -u -p -d -a -t -e

Nice catch :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-02 Thread David M. Fellows
>On 2020-10-02 10:45, n952162 wrote:
>> Have I successfully updated my system?
>>
>> I ran this command:
>>
>> emerge \
>>     -v \
>>     --verbose-conflicts \
>>     --deep \
>>     -update \
>>     --changed-use \
>>     --keep-going \
>>     --with-bdeps=y \
>>     --changed-deps \
>>     --backtrack=100 \
>>     @world
>>
>> and got tons of stuff that looks like spurious debugging/tracing info

Probably not.  And a good thing too.
Assuming the above is an accurate transcription of the command you used.

-update is definitely NOT the same as --update.

-update is equivalent to -u -p -d -a -t -e
so --update --pretend --debug --ask --tree --empty-tree
--debug, --tree produce voluminous output,
--empty-tree says rebuild everything.

Hope this helps.

DaveF





Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:45 AM n952162  wrote:
>
> Have I successfully updated my system?
> ...
> and these snippets:
>

I wrote a lengthy reply explaining all of your issues.  Here is a snippet:
...hope that helps.  In the future, please attach your command line
and full output.

Did that answer your question?

Seriously, though, aside from complete output (if it is long it
probably will compress nicely), if you are getting errors and can't
proceed try reducing the scope of the build (such as just @system).
It isn't actually clear if emerge was able to resolve the block or not
from the trimmed output.  Adding verbose can be helpful for those
troubleshooting, but not if it just causes you to not post the output
in the first place...

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-02 Thread John Covici
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 05:25:29 -0400,
n952162 wrote:
> 
> On 2020-10-02 10:45, n952162 wrote:
> > Have I successfully updated my system?
> > 
> > I ran this command:
> > 
> > emerge \
> >     -v \
> >     --verbose-conflicts \
> >     --deep \
> >     -update \
> >     --changed-use \
> >     --keep-going \
> >     --with-bdeps=y \
> >     --changed-deps \
> >     --backtrack=100 \
> >     @world
> > 
> > and got tons of stuff that looks like spurious debugging/tracing info
> > 
> >   parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> > merge)
> >     child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> > merge) (runtime_slot_op)
> >   parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> > merge)
> >     child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> > merge) (runtime_slot_op)
> > 
> > and these snippets:
> > 
> > Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497
> > reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB
> > Conflict: 1 block
> > forced reinstall atoms:
> > 
> > 
> > slot operator dependencies:
> >    (/, sys-libs/ncurses:0)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > forced rebuilds:
> > 
> > [EOF]
> > 
> > 
> 
> When I strip out all the parent/child traces (they make it a 6MB file!)
> with this:
> 
> sed -e '/^\s*parent: (/d' -e '/^\s*child: (/d' system-world.201002
> 
> I get this at the end of my emerge:
> 
> 
> Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497
> reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB
> Conflict: 1 block
> forced reinstall atoms:
> 
> 
> slot operator dependencies:
>    (/, sys-libs/ncurses:0)
>    (/, sys-libs/readline:0)
>    (/, dev-lang/perl:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libxml2:2)
>    (/, dev-lang/python-exec:2)
>    (/, sys-libs/db:5.3)
>    (/, sys-libs/gdbm:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/libX11:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libgcrypt:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/openssl:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/expat:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/libxshmfence:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/libXdamage:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/libXext:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/libXxf86vm:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/libxcb:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/libXfixes:0)
>    (/, app-arch/zstd:0)
>    (/, sys-devel/llvm:10)
>    (/, sys-libs/zlib:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libffi:0)
>    (/, app-arch/libarchive:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/jsoncpp:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libuv:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/libpciaccess:0)
>    (/, x11-base/xorg-server:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libinput:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/apr:1)
>    (/, dev-libs/apr-util:1)
>    (/, media-libs/libpng:0)
>    (/, media-libs/dav1d:0)
>    (/, media-libs/libaom:0)
>    (/, media-libs/harfbuzz:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/icu:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libevent:0)
>    (/, media-libs/libvpx:0)
>    (/, media-libs/libwebp:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/cairo:0)
>    (/, media-gfx/graphite2:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/gobject-introspection:0)
>    (/, media-libs/freetype:2)
>    (/, media-libs/fontconfig:1.0)
>    (/, sys-libs/binutils-libs:0)
>    (/, app-crypt/libb2:0)
>    (/, app-crypt/gpgme:1)
>    (/, dev-libs/libassuan:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libgpg-error:0)
>    (/, net-libs/gnutls:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libtasn1:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libunistring:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/nettle:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/gmp:0)
>    (/, net-dns/libidn2:0)
>    (/, app-arch/bzip2:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/json-c:0)
>    (/, app-crypt/argon2:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/mpfr:0)
>    (/, dev-python/cffi:0)
>    (/, dev-python/ply:0)
>    (/, sys-libs/efivar:0)
>    (/, media-libs/gd:2)
>    (/, dev-db/postgresql:12)
>    (/, sci-libs/proj:0)
>    (/, dev-lang/lua:0)
>    (/, dev-db/postgresql:10)
>    (/, dev-db/postgresql:11)
>    (/, sci-libs/libgeotiff:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libnl:3)
>    (/, app-text/poppler:0)
>    (/, app-text/qpdf:0)
>    (/, media-libs/jbig2dec:0)
>    (/, media-libs/openjpeg:2)
>    (/, net-dns/libidn:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libxslt:0)
>    (/, app-arch/lz4:0)
>    (/, media-libs/opus:0)
>    (/, media-video/ffmpeg:0)
>    (/, app-text/hunspell:0)
>    (/, dev-qt/qtcore:5)
>    (/, net-libs/libtirpc:0)
>    (/, sys-apps/keyutils:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/liblinear:0)
>    (/, media-libs/libdvdread:0)
>    (/, media-libs/libdvbpsi:0)
>    (/, media-libs/libdvdnav:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-cursor:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-image:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-keysyms:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-renderutil:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-wm:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/xcb-util:0)
>    (/, x11-base/xcb-proto:0)
>    (/, media-libs/flac:0)
>    (/, media-libs/libogg:0)
>    (/, media-libs/libvorbis:0)
>    (/, dev-scheme/guile:12)
>    (/, dev-libs/boehm-gc:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libltdl:0)
>    (/, media-libs/tiff:0)
>    (/, media-gfx/mypaint-brushes:2.0)
>    (/, media-libs/libmypaint:0)
>    (/, net-libs/libproxy:0)
>    (/, media-gfx/exiv2:0)
>    (/, dev-db/lmdb:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libutf8proc:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/libpcre2:0)
>    (/, dev-libs/double-conversion:0)
>    (/, app-arch/xz-utils:0)
>    (/, sys-apps/util-linux:0)
>    (/, dev-db/sqlite:3)
>    (/, gnome-extra/libgsf:0)
>    (/, x11-libs/pango:0)
>    (/, 

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 10:45:32 +0200, n952162 wrote:

> Have I successfully updated my system?
> 
> I ran this command:
> 
> emerge \
>      -v \
>      --verbose-conflicts \
>      --deep \
>      -update \
>      --changed-use \
>      --keep-going \
>      --with-bdeps=y \
>      --changed-deps \
>      --backtrack=100 \
>      @world
> 
> and got tons of stuff that looks like spurious debugging/tracing info
> 
>    parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> merge)
>      child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> merge) (runtime_slot_op)
>    parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> merge)
>      child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> merge) (runtime_slot_op)
> 
> and these snippets:
> 
> Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497
> reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB
> Conflict: 1 block
> forced reinstall atoms:

Did the emerge complete without error? The answer that question is the
same as the answer to yours.

It looks like you have gone a long time without updating, so if you hit
problems, and you do have one block there, a simple "emerge --ask
@system" /may/ be a better place to start.

I'd also drop -v from the invocation as it is the main cause of your
"spurious debugging/tracing info". emerge is verbose enough on its own
and will give you plenty of feedback if something isn't quite right, -v
just buries the important information in noise.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-02 Thread n952162

On 2020-10-02 10:45, n952162 wrote:

Have I successfully updated my system?

I ran this command:

emerge \
    -v \
    --verbose-conflicts \
    --deep \
    -update \
    --changed-use \
    --keep-going \
    --with-bdeps=y \
    --changed-deps \
    --backtrack=100 \
    @world

and got tons of stuff that looks like spurious debugging/tracing info

  parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
merge)
    child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
merge) (runtime_slot_op)
  parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
merge)
    child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
merge) (runtime_slot_op)

and these snippets:

Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497
reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB
Conflict: 1 block
forced reinstall atoms:


slot operator dependencies:
   (/, sys-libs/ncurses:0)




forced rebuilds:

[EOF]




When I strip out all the parent/child traces (they make it a 6MB file!)
with this:

sed -e '/^\s*parent: (/d' -e '/^\s*child: (/d' system-world.201002

I get this at the end of my emerge:


Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497
reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB
Conflict: 1 block
forced reinstall atoms:


slot operator dependencies:
   (/, sys-libs/ncurses:0)
   (/, sys-libs/readline:0)
   (/, dev-lang/perl:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libxml2:2)
   (/, dev-lang/python-exec:2)
   (/, sys-libs/db:5.3)
   (/, sys-libs/gdbm:0)
   (/, x11-libs/libX11:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libgcrypt:0)
   (/, dev-libs/openssl:0)
   (/, dev-libs/expat:0)
   (/, x11-libs/libxshmfence:0)
   (/, x11-libs/libXdamage:0)
   (/, x11-libs/libXext:0)
   (/, x11-libs/libXxf86vm:0)
   (/, x11-libs/libxcb:0)
   (/, x11-libs/libXfixes:0)
   (/, app-arch/zstd:0)
   (/, sys-devel/llvm:10)
   (/, sys-libs/zlib:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libffi:0)
   (/, app-arch/libarchive:0)
   (/, dev-libs/jsoncpp:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libuv:0)
   (/, x11-libs/libpciaccess:0)
   (/, x11-base/xorg-server:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libinput:0)
   (/, dev-libs/apr:1)
   (/, dev-libs/apr-util:1)
   (/, media-libs/libpng:0)
   (/, media-libs/dav1d:0)
   (/, media-libs/libaom:0)
   (/, media-libs/harfbuzz:0)
   (/, dev-libs/icu:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libevent:0)
   (/, media-libs/libvpx:0)
   (/, media-libs/libwebp:0)
   (/, x11-libs/cairo:0)
   (/, media-gfx/graphite2:0)
   (/, dev-libs/gobject-introspection:0)
   (/, media-libs/freetype:2)
   (/, media-libs/fontconfig:1.0)
   (/, sys-libs/binutils-libs:0)
   (/, app-crypt/libb2:0)
   (/, app-crypt/gpgme:1)
   (/, dev-libs/libassuan:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libgpg-error:0)
   (/, net-libs/gnutls:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libtasn1:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libunistring:0)
   (/, dev-libs/nettle:0)
   (/, dev-libs/gmp:0)
   (/, net-dns/libidn2:0)
   (/, app-arch/bzip2:0)
   (/, dev-libs/json-c:0)
   (/, app-crypt/argon2:0)
   (/, dev-libs/mpfr:0)
   (/, dev-python/cffi:0)
   (/, dev-python/ply:0)
   (/, sys-libs/efivar:0)
   (/, media-libs/gd:2)
   (/, dev-db/postgresql:12)
   (/, sci-libs/proj:0)
   (/, dev-lang/lua:0)
   (/, dev-db/postgresql:10)
   (/, dev-db/postgresql:11)
   (/, sci-libs/libgeotiff:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libnl:3)
   (/, app-text/poppler:0)
   (/, app-text/qpdf:0)
   (/, media-libs/jbig2dec:0)
   (/, media-libs/openjpeg:2)
   (/, net-dns/libidn:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libxslt:0)
   (/, app-arch/lz4:0)
   (/, media-libs/opus:0)
   (/, media-video/ffmpeg:0)
   (/, app-text/hunspell:0)
   (/, dev-qt/qtcore:5)
   (/, net-libs/libtirpc:0)
   (/, sys-apps/keyutils:0)
   (/, dev-libs/liblinear:0)
   (/, media-libs/libdvdread:0)
   (/, media-libs/libdvbpsi:0)
   (/, media-libs/libdvdnav:0)
   (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-cursor:0)
   (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-image:0)
   (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-keysyms:0)
   (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-renderutil:0)
   (/, x11-libs/xcb-util-wm:0)
   (/, x11-libs/xcb-util:0)
   (/, x11-base/xcb-proto:0)
   (/, media-libs/flac:0)
   (/, media-libs/libogg:0)
   (/, media-libs/libvorbis:0)
   (/, dev-scheme/guile:12)
   (/, dev-libs/boehm-gc:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libltdl:0)
   (/, media-libs/tiff:0)
   (/, media-gfx/mypaint-brushes:2.0)
   (/, media-libs/libmypaint:0)
   (/, net-libs/libproxy:0)
   (/, media-gfx/exiv2:0)
   (/, dev-db/lmdb:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libutf8proc:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libpcre2:0)
   (/, dev-libs/double-conversion:0)
   (/, app-arch/xz-utils:0)
   (/, sys-apps/util-linux:0)
   (/, dev-db/sqlite:3)
   (/, gnome-extra/libgsf:0)
   (/, x11-libs/pango:0)
   (/, app-text/libspectre:0)
   (/, x11-libs/libXrender:0)
   (/, app-text/ghostscript-gpl:0)
   (/, dev-libs/glib:2)
   (/, dev-libs/libgudev:0)
   (/, dev-libs/libmspack:0)
   (/, net-libs/libnsl:0)
   (/, dev-libs/mpc:0)
   (/, sys-apps/acl:0)
   (/, sys-libs/pam:0)
   (/, sys-apps/attr:0)
   (/, net-firewall/iptables:0)
   (/, virtual/libcrypt:0)
   (/, virtual/jpeg:0)
   (/, virtual/libudev:0)
   (/, virtual/libusb:1)
   (/, dev-libs/libgit2:0)
   (/, net-libs/libssh2:0)
   (/, net-libs/http-parser:0)
   (/, 

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-02 Thread Dale
n952162 wrote:
> Have I successfully updated my system?
>
> I ran this command:
>
> emerge \
>     -v \
>     --verbose-conflicts \
>     --deep \
>     -update \
>     --changed-use \
>     --keep-going \
>     --with-bdeps=y \
>     --changed-deps \
>     --backtrack=100 \
>     @world
>
> and got tons of stuff that looks like spurious debugging/tracing info
>
>   parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> merge)
>     child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> merge) (runtime_slot_op)
>   parent: (dev-libs/glib-2.64.5:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> merge)
>     child: (virtual/libelf-3:0/1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
> merge) (runtime_slot_op)
>
> and these snippets:
>
> Total: 869 packages (332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497
> reinstalls), Size of downloads: 2769158 KiB
> Conflict: 1 block
> forced reinstall atoms:
>
>
> slot operator dependencies:
>    (/, sys-libs/ncurses:0)
>
> 
>
>
> forced rebuilds:
>
> [EOF]
>
>
>
>


>From this bit I'd think not.

(332 upgrades, 30 new, 10 in new slots, 497 reinstalls)

I'm not quite sure where you are putting that command tho.  Script maybe? 

Dale

:-)  :-)