Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

2014-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd
 system.  The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd.
 
 The 3 june news asserts all systemd users are recommended to stay with
 sys-power/upower.
 
 However update world wants to uninstall upower and install
 upower-pm-utils.
 
 Adding sys-power/upower-pm-utils to /etc/package.mask, fixed the
 problem, but I wonder if I chose an appropriate fix.  I was a little
 surprised that a stable system would need an entry in package.mask.
 
 Any advice would be appreciated,
 allan
 
 PS I realize that the news item concerned hibernate/suspend so is not
 relevant, but the same issue uninstall/install occurs on my laptop.
 Those systems have a less simple goingstable setup and are more
 important to me so I prefer to first change the fully stable desktop.


Are you still dealing with this same output you posted about on the 26th?

Calculating dependencies... done!

[ebuild U  ] x11-wm/sawfish-1.9.1-r2 [1.9.1-r1] USE=emacs%* nls
-xinerama 2,556 kB
[nomerge   ] gnome-base/gnome-3.10.0:2.0  USE=bluetooth cdr classic
cups extras -accessibility
[nomerge   ]  gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2  USE=bluetooth i18n
networkmanager (-openrc-force) PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7
[nomerge   ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2
USE=introspection -ios
[blocks b  ]sys-power/upower (sys-power/upower is blocking
sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2)
[uninstall ] sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3  USE=introspection -doc
-ios
[ebuild  N ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2
USE=introspection -ios 0 kB

That is gnome-shell pulling in upower || upower-pm-utils and for some
reason it chose the one you do not want.

Using package.mask is valid (it's a documented tool and not only for
~arch - all it means is that you do not want the listed packages and
there could be many reasons for that) but it does seem a bit heavy-handed.

Normally, manually installing upower should be enough to satisfy the dep
and keep upower-pm-utils off your machine, but bugs are possible I suppose.

Is there any bugs on b.g.o. about this?
Run emerge with -t and post the relevant section, let's see why the
wrong package is being pulled in. Also the output of

equery depends upower
equery depends upower-pm-utils






-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

2014-06-29 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd
 system.  The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd.
 
 The 3 june news asserts all systemd users are recommended to stay with
 sys-power/upower.
 
 However update world wants to uninstall upower and install
 upower-pm-utils.
 
 Adding sys-power/upower-pm-utils to /etc/package.mask, fixed the
 problem, but I wonder if I chose an appropriate fix.  I was a little
 surprised that a stable system would need an entry in package.mask.
 
 Any advice would be appreciated,
 allan
 
 PS I realize that the news item concerned hibernate/suspend so is not
 relevant, but the same issue uninstall/install occurs on my laptop.
 Those systems have a less simple goingstable setup and are more
 important to me so I prefer to first change the fully stable desktop.


 Are you still dealing with this same output you posted about on the 26th?

 Calculating dependencies... done!

 [ebuild U  ] x11-wm/sawfish-1.9.1-r2 [1.9.1-r1] USE=emacs%* nls
 -xinerama 2,556 kB
 [nomerge   ] gnome-base/gnome-3.10.0:2.0  USE=bluetooth cdr classic
 cups extras -accessibility
 [nomerge   ]  gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2  USE=bluetooth i18n
 networkmanager (-openrc-force) PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7
 [nomerge   ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2
 USE=introspection -ios
 [blocks b  ]sys-power/upower (sys-power/upower is blocking
 sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2)
 [uninstall ] sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3  USE=introspection -doc
 -ios
 [ebuild  N ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2
 USE=introspection -ios 0 kB

 That is gnome-shell pulling in upower || upower-pm-utils and for some
 reason it chose the one you do not want.

 Using package.mask is valid (it's a documented tool and not only for
 ~arch - all it means is that you do not want the listed packages and
 there could be many reasons for that) but it does seem a bit heavy-handed.

 Normally, manually installing upower should be enough to satisfy the dep
 and keep upower-pm-utils off your machine, but bugs are possible I suppose.

 Is there any bugs on b.g.o. about this?
 Run emerge with -t and post the relevant section, let's see why the
 wrong package is being pulled in. Also the output of

 equery depends upower
 equery depends upower-pm-utils

Yes it is the same general issue.  But I moved from my goingstable
laptop to my fully stable desktop, hoping it would be clearer.
I did run the emerge world with -t on the desktop.  I am now temporarily
removing the package.mask entry and running it again.  The output is

Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge   ] gnome-base/gnome-3.10.0:2.0  USE=bluetooth cdr classic cups 
extras -accessibility 
[nomerge   ]  gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2  USE=bluetooth i18n 
networkmanager (-openrc-force) PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 
[nomerge   ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2  USE=introspection 
-ios 
[blocks b  ]sys-power/upower (sys-power/upower is blocking 
sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2)
[uninstall ] sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3  USE=introspection -doc -ios 
[ebuild  N ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2  USE=introspection 
-ios 0 kB
Total: 1 package (1 new, 1 uninstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
Conflict: 1 block

I did not do this upgrade and with my package.mask in place, update
world says nothing to merge.

The equery's give

allan ~ # equery depends upower
 * These packages depend on upower:
app-misc/tracker-0.16.4 (laptop ? sys-power/upower-0.99)
gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.10.3 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
gnome-base/gnome-session-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.10.2 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2 (sys-power/upower-0.99[introspection])
gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
net-im/telepathy-mission-control-5.14.1 (upower ? =sys-power/upower-0.9.11)
(upower ? sys-power/upower-0.99)
net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.8 (sys-power/upower)
x11-wm/mutter-3.10.4 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
allan ~ # equery depends upower-pm-utils
 * These packages depend on upower-pm-utils:
app-misc/tracker-0.16.4 (laptop ? sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.10.3 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
gnome-base/gnome-session-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.10.2 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils[introspection])
gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
net-im/telepathy-mission-control-5.14.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.8 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
x11-wm/mutter-3.10.4 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
allan ~ # 

When I started this project there were no related bugs in b.g.o.
I will investigate them

513842 - talks about a upower mask from the 

Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

2014-06-29 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jun 29 2014, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 When I started this project there were no related bugs in b.g.o.
 I will investigate them

Pretty tricky huh.

When I started this project there were no related bugs in b.g.o.; but
there are now.
I will investigate them

Sorry,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

2014-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/06/2014 23:57, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 
 On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd
 system.  The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd.

 The 3 june news asserts all systemd users are recommended to stay with
 sys-power/upower.

 However update world wants to uninstall upower and install
 upower-pm-utils.

 Adding sys-power/upower-pm-utils to /etc/package.mask, fixed the
 problem, but I wonder if I chose an appropriate fix.  I was a little
 surprised that a stable system would need an entry in package.mask.

 Any advice would be appreciated,
 allan

 PS I realize that the news item concerned hibernate/suspend so is not
 relevant, but the same issue uninstall/install occurs on my laptop.
 Those systems have a less simple goingstable setup and are more
 important to me so I prefer to first change the fully stable desktop.


 Are you still dealing with this same output you posted about on the 26th?

 Calculating dependencies... done!

 [ebuild U  ] x11-wm/sawfish-1.9.1-r2 [1.9.1-r1] USE=emacs%* nls
 -xinerama 2,556 kB
 [nomerge   ] gnome-base/gnome-3.10.0:2.0  USE=bluetooth cdr classic
 cups extras -accessibility
 [nomerge   ]  gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2  USE=bluetooth i18n
 networkmanager (-openrc-force) PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7
 [nomerge   ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2
 USE=introspection -ios
 [blocks b  ]sys-power/upower (sys-power/upower is blocking
 sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2)
 [uninstall ] sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3  USE=introspection -doc
 -ios
 [ebuild  N ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2
 USE=introspection -ios 0 kB

 That is gnome-shell pulling in upower || upower-pm-utils and for some
 reason it chose the one you do not want.

 Using package.mask is valid (it's a documented tool and not only for
 ~arch - all it means is that you do not want the listed packages and
 there could be many reasons for that) but it does seem a bit heavy-handed.

 Normally, manually installing upower should be enough to satisfy the dep
 and keep upower-pm-utils off your machine, but bugs are possible I suppose.

 Is there any bugs on b.g.o. about this?
 Run emerge with -t and post the relevant section, let's see why the
 wrong package is being pulled in. Also the output of

 equery depends upower
 equery depends upower-pm-utils
 
 Yes it is the same general issue.  But I moved from my goingstable
 laptop to my fully stable desktop, hoping it would be clearer.
 I did run the emerge world with -t on the desktop.  I am now temporarily
 removing the package.mask entry and running it again.  The output is
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [nomerge   ] gnome-base/gnome-3.10.0:2.0  USE=bluetooth cdr classic cups 
 extras -accessibility 
 [nomerge   ]  gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2  USE=bluetooth i18n 
 networkmanager (-openrc-force) PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 
 [nomerge   ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2  USE=introspection 
 -ios 
 [blocks b  ]sys-power/upower (sys-power/upower is blocking 
 sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2)
 [uninstall ] sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3  USE=introspection -doc 
 -ios 
 [ebuild  N ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2  USE=introspection 
 -ios 0 kB
 Total: 1 package (1 new, 1 uninstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 Conflict: 1 block
 
 I did not do this upgrade and with my package.mask in place, update
 world says nothing to merge.
 
 The equery's give
 
 allan ~ # equery depends upower
  * These packages depend on upower:
 app-misc/tracker-0.16.4 (laptop ? sys-power/upower-0.99)
 gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.10.3 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
 gnome-base/gnome-session-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
 gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.10.2 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
 gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2 (sys-power/upower-0.99[introspection])
 gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
 net-im/telepathy-mission-control-5.14.1 (upower ? =sys-power/upower-0.9.11)
 (upower ? sys-power/upower-0.99)
 net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.8 (sys-power/upower)
 x11-wm/mutter-3.10.4 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
 allan ~ # equery depends upower-pm-utils
  * These packages depend on upower-pm-utils:
 app-misc/tracker-0.16.4 (laptop ? sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.10.3 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 gnome-base/gnome-session-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.10.2 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils[introspection])
 gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 net-im/telepathy-mission-control-5.14.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.8 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 x11-wm/mutter-3.10.4 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 allan ~ # 
 
 When I started this project there were 

Re: [gentoo-user] must/should systemd users package.mask upower-pm-utils

2014-06-29 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 On 29/06/2014 23:57, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 29 2014, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 
 On 29/06/2014 22:09, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 My desktop is a fully stable (empty package.accept_keywords) systemd
 system.  The profile is .../gnome/system and it boots init=systemd.

 The 3 june news asserts all systemd users are recommended to stay with
 sys-power/upower.

 However update world wants to uninstall upower and install
 upower-pm-utils.

 Adding sys-power/upower-pm-utils to /etc/package.mask, fixed the
 problem, but I wonder if I chose an appropriate fix.  I was a little
 surprised that a stable system would need an entry in package.mask.

 Any advice would be appreciated,
 allan

 PS I realize that the news item concerned hibernate/suspend so is not
 relevant, but the same issue uninstall/install occurs on my laptop.
 Those systems have a less simple goingstable setup and are more
 important to me so I prefer to first change the fully stable desktop.


 Are you still dealing with this same output you posted about on the 26th?

 Calculating dependencies... done!

 [ebuild U  ] x11-wm/sawfish-1.9.1-r2 [1.9.1-r1] USE=emacs%* nls
 -xinerama 2,556 kB
 [nomerge   ] gnome-base/gnome-3.10.0:2.0  USE=bluetooth cdr classic
 cups extras -accessibility
 [nomerge   ]  gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2  USE=bluetooth i18n
 networkmanager (-openrc-force) PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7
 [nomerge   ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2
 USE=introspection -ios
 [blocks b  ]sys-power/upower (sys-power/upower is blocking
 sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2)
 [uninstall ] sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3  USE=introspection -doc
 -ios
 [ebuild  N ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2
 USE=introspection -ios 0 kB

 That is gnome-shell pulling in upower || upower-pm-utils and for some
 reason it chose the one you do not want.

 Using package.mask is valid (it's a documented tool and not only for
 ~arch - all it means is that you do not want the listed packages and
 there could be many reasons for that) but it does seem a bit heavy-handed.

 Normally, manually installing upower should be enough to satisfy the dep
 and keep upower-pm-utils off your machine, but bugs are possible I suppose.

 Is there any bugs on b.g.o. about this?
 Run emerge with -t and post the relevant section, let's see why the
 wrong package is being pulled in. Also the output of

 equery depends upower
 equery depends upower-pm-utils
 
 Yes it is the same general issue.  But I moved from my goingstable
 laptop to my fully stable desktop, hoping it would be clearer.
 I did run the emerge world with -t on the desktop.  I am now temporarily
 removing the package.mask entry and running it again.  The output is
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [nomerge   ] gnome-base/gnome-3.10.0:2.0  USE=bluetooth cdr classic 
 cups extras -accessibility 
 [nomerge   ]  gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2  USE=bluetooth i18n 
 networkmanager (-openrc-force) PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 
 [nomerge   ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2  USE=introspection 
 -ios 
 [blocks b  ]sys-power/upower (sys-power/upower is blocking 
 sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2)
 [uninstall ] sys-power/upower-0.9.23-r3  USE=introspection -doc 
 -ios 
 [ebuild  N ]   sys-power/upower-pm-utils-0.9.23-r2  USE=introspection 
 -ios 0 kB
 Total: 1 package (1 new, 1 uninstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 Conflict: 1 block
 
 I did not do this upgrade and with my package.mask in place, update
 world says nothing to merge.
 
 The equery's give
 
 allan ~ # equery depends upower
  * These packages depend on upower:
 app-misc/tracker-0.16.4 (laptop ? sys-power/upower-0.99)
 gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.10.3 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
 gnome-base/gnome-session-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
 gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.10.2 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
 gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2 (sys-power/upower-0.99[introspection])
 gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
 net-im/telepathy-mission-control-5.14.1 (upower ? =sys-power/upower-0.9.11)
 (upower ? sys-power/upower-0.99)
 net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.8 (sys-power/upower)
 x11-wm/mutter-3.10.4 (sys-power/upower-0.99)
 allan ~ # equery depends upower-pm-utils
  * These packages depend on upower-pm-utils:
 app-misc/tracker-0.16.4 (laptop ? sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.10.3 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 gnome-base/gnome-session-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.10.2 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.10.4-r2 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils[introspection])
 gnome-extra/gnome-power-manager-3.10.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 net-im/telepathy-mission-control-5.14.1 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.8 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 x11-wm/mutter-3.10.4 (sys-power/upower-pm-utils)
 allan ~