Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED-or, not
Am Freitag, 11. Mai 2007 schrieb maxim wexler: Can you post the relevant lines from 10.local.rules. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/10* BUS==ide, KERNEL==hdc, SYMLINK+=cdrom, GROUP=cdrom BUS==ide, KERNEL==hdd, SYMLINK+=dvd, GROUP=cdrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ Maybe you should try adding OPTIONS+=last_rule to stop device node generations for CD/DVD devices after your rules. I suspect it will be re-installed at next udev update. What's your udev version, BTW.? udev-104-r12 Hmm, I'm at 111, but I run ~x86. HTH... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED-no, really
--- Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag, 11. Mai 2007 schrieb maxim wexler: Can you post the relevant lines from 10.local.rules. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/10* BUS==ide, KERNEL==hdc, SYMLINK+=cdrom, GROUP=cdrom BUS==ide, KERNEL==hdd, SYMLINK+=dvd, GROUP=cdrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ Maybe you should try adding OPTIONS+=last_rule to stop device node generations for CD/DVD devices after your rules. Awesome! Eyes must have glazed over when I got to that part. udev-104-r12 Hmm, I'm at 111, but I run ~x86. That's unreal. I last did a sync on Apr 23 and upgraded udev the next day. That's like a new version every other day. I was gonna say I'm running an ~x86 too, meaning an AMD product. Then I noticed the tilde. Does that make a difference? Thanks, Maxim Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED-no, really
Am Samstag, 12. Mai 2007 schrieb maxim wexler: Maybe you should try adding OPTIONS+=last_rule to stop device node generations for CD/DVD devices after your rules. Awesome! Eyes must have glazed over when I got to that part. Does this mean it helped? udev-104-r12 Hmm, I'm at 111, but I run ~x86. That's unreal. I last did a sync on Apr 23 and upgraded udev the next day. That's like a new version every other day. I was gonna say I'm running an ~x86 too, meaning an AMD product. Then I noticed the tilde. Does that make a difference? ~ means testing, w/o it it's known as stable. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED-no, really
Awesome! Eyes must have glazed over when I got to that part. Does this mean it helped? Yes, thanks a lot. Maxim Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED-or, not
Am Freitag, 11. Mai 2007 schrieb ext Dan Farrell: Secondly, in addition to some kind of driver for IDE, either generic or specific, you need the cdrom driver (module: cdrom.ko) for cdrom support. My guess is, you upgraded the kernel and fell into the commonly experienced PATA driver burn -- there's two driver sets now, an experimental one and the old ones, and you have to make sure to get the right one for your configuration. And if you use the new one, you have to be aware that it is attached to the SCSI subsystem now. This means that you have to enable SCSI as well as support for SCSI disks (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y) and SCSI cdroms (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m = sr_mod.ko), just as you would do with SATA. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED-or, not
And if you use the new one, you have to be aware that it is attached to the SCSI subsystem now. This means that you have to enable SCSI as well as support for SCSI disks (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y) and SCSI cdroms (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m = sr_mod.ko), just as you would do with SATA. Thanks, Dirk but that's not the problem anymore. Problem is persistent-CD.rules that keeps getting re-written every boot. I've already written a 10-local.rules to handle my _one_ CD, /dev/cdrom- /dev/hdc and _one_ DVD, /dev/dvd- /dev/hdd drive but persistent seems to think the symlinks should be called /dev/cdrom4 and /dev/cdrom5. I delete the persistant file, like I say, but it gets rewritten when I reboot and re-establishes the wrong symlinks, I suspect by /lib/udev/write_cd_rules. Question is: Can I safely delete /lib/udev/write_cd_rules or disable it somehow? Maxim Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED-or, not
Am Freitag, 11. Mai 2007 schrieb maxim wexler: Problem is persistent-CD.rules that keeps getting re-written every boot. Hmm that's strange. Doesn't happen on my system(s). I've already written a 10-local.rules to handle my _one_ CD, /dev/cdrom- /dev/hdc and _one_ DVD, /dev/dvd- /dev/hdd drive but persistent seems to think the symlinks should be called /dev/cdrom4 and /dev/cdrom5. Can you post the relevant lines from 10.local.rules. I delete the persistant file, like I say, but it gets rewritten when I reboot and re-establishes the wrong symlinks, I suspect by /lib/udev/write_cd_rules. Question is: Can I safely delete /lib/udev/write_cd_rules or disable it somehow? I suspect it will be re-installed at next udev update. What's your udev version, BTW.? Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED-or, not
Can you post the relevant lines from 10.local.rules. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/10* BUS==ide, KERNEL==hdc, SYMLINK+=cdrom, GROUP=cdrom BUS==ide, KERNEL==hdd, SYMLINK+=dvd, GROUP=cdrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ see http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html under Examples - cd/dvd drives for the model I used. I suspect it will be re-installed at next udev update. What's your udev version, BTW.? udev-104-r12 Bye... Dirk Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED
On Wednesday 09 May 2007, maxim wexler wrote: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 May 9 08:25 cdrom - hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 May 9 08:25 cdrom1 - hdd lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 May 9 08:25 cdrw - hdc appear since loading ide-generic.ko [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /dev/hdd brw-rw 1 root cdrom 22, 64 May 9 08:25 /dev/hdd Cool. It seemed to me that you set ide-generic to M by mistake as everything else is *. You could either change the config and recompile/install, or put ide-config in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 Does the dvd device also work correctly now? -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED-or, not
--- Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 09 May 2007, maxim wexler wrote: lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 3 May 9 08:25 cdrom - hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 3 May 9 08:25 cdrom1 - hdd lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 3 May 9 08:25 cdrw - hdc appear since loading ide-generic.ko [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /dev/hdd brw-rw 1 root cdrom 22, 64 May 9 08:25 /dev/hdd Cool. It seemed to me that you set ide-generic to M by mistake as everything else is *. You could either change the config and recompile/install, or put ide-config in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 Does the dvd device also work correctly now? I thought so until now having restarted the box -- I did put ide-generic into the autoload file before shutdown yesterday -- tried to play a DVD with gmplayer. Couldn't find the drive again. I just assumed it had forgotten that in preferences-misc the path to the drive had been changed from /dev/dvd to /dev/cdrom1. Nope, that was still correct. Then I did an ls -l under /dev and this appeared: ... lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 3 May 10 02:23 cdrom2 - hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 3 May 10 02:23 cdrom3 - hdd lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 3 May 10 02:23 cdrw2 - hdc ... Compare this to the above. Something is incrementing the drive numbers! Does this have something to do with having modularized the driver? Guess my next stop is /usr/src/linux... ...to be cont'd -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED-or, not
On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:50:34 -0700 (PDT) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 09 May 2007, maxim wexler wrote: lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 3 May 9 08:25 cdrom - hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 3 May 9 08:25 cdrom1 - hdd lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 3 May 9 08:25 cdrw - hdc [ /dev device nodes for cdroms ] appear since loading ide-generic.ko For one thing, generic IDE support is certainly less appropriate than support for your IDE card. Hardware-specific options cna be enabled and you might gain DMA if your hardware is really unusual. I can say from experience that generic ide support doesn't provide anything that drivers specific to your hardware fails to provide, unless I misunderstand greatly. It's not a question of increased functionality necessarily, but one of performance, and possibly less overhead for the CPU. Secondly, in addition to some kind of driver for IDE, either generic or specific, you need the cdrom driver (module: cdrom.ko) for cdrom support. My guess is, you upgraded the kernel and fell into the commonly experienced PATA driver burn -- there's two driver sets now, an experimental one and the old ones, and you have to make sure to get the right one for your configuration. Dont forget, you'll also need to have the ISO9660 and possibly UDF filesysem supported. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED-or, not
My guess is, you upgraded the kernel and fell into the commonly experienced PATA driver burn -- there's two driver sets now, an experimental one and the old ones, and you have to make sure to get the right one for your configuration. What I did was write a 10-local.rules file following the model at reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html. So now I get the proper symlinks: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /dev/cd* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 May 10 10:21 /dev/cdrom - hdc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /dev/dvd lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 May 10 10:21 /dev/dvd - hdd plus these unwanted ones which are the result of 70-persistent-cd.rules lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 May 10 10:21 /dev/cdrom4 - hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 May 10 10:21 /dev/cdrom5 - hdd lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 May 10 10:21 /dev/cdrw4 - hdc question is, how do I turn off persistent-cd rules? Even if I delete it another is generated when the PC boots. Do I delete /lib/udev*/write_cd_rules? According to the FAQ persistence is most useful for devices that are likely to be plugged in and out fairly often. I don't expect to do that with the optical drives. Maxim Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no CD or DVD but rules seem correct-FIXED
CONFIG_M586=y Nothing to do with your disks, but why this setting? You seem to have a 64bit Opteron, not a MkI pentium CPU is an AMD product, sempron3100, 32bit. It's based on the 3200 64bit. CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=m is this module loaded? Overlooked this one. I loaded it and the lite-on CD now works but not the DVD. CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD74XX=m is this module loaded? Didn't make a difference. And we should check that the devices haven't changed names meanwhile... The major/minor numbers will be the same, so run ls -al and grep for these strings: ls -al where? Under /dev lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 3 May 9 08:25 cdrom - hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 3 May 9 08:25 cdrom1 - hdd lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 3 May 9 08:25 cdrw - hdc appear since loading ide-generic.ko [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /dev/hdd brw-rw 1 root cdrom 22, 64 May 9 08:25 /dev/hdd Which matches numbers from devices.txt. OK, success! gmplayer looks for /dev/dvd so I changed that in gmplayer-preferences to /dev/cdrom1 and now all is peace and light. Thanks Alan Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
