Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
Tony Miller wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:00:41PM -0500, Dale wrote: I see the music bars in almost all the slides. I see the little keyboard on the right in a couple of them. I didn't ever see any text except for the letters that correspond to the notes. I'm assuming that the text would be almost to the bottom of the page tho. If that is correct then I can confirm it is not there with Seamonkey 2, Firefox and Konqueror. Those are the browsers I have installed. There is definitely supposed to be text on the bottom of the page. Glad its not just me. I'm probably just going to find a music theory program that isnt a webpage. Give the list a day or so and see if someone else reports that it works. Then you can see what they have installed that is missing or if it is a wrong version of something that is installed. Keep in mind that this list goes through a 24 hour cycle since readers are in different time zones. Add in that some may actually test it on different machines, home and work etc. I would think it would work the same regardless if OS. I suspect that something is missing somewhere. You just have to figure out what it is that is not working. Maybe contact the website and see what they say as well. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
On 4/14/2010 11:38 PM, Tony Miller wrote: Hi, I've noticed that in linux(in all browsers), I cannot see the text on this page. http://musictheory.net/lessons/html/id10_en.html There is supposed to be different text each time you hit the 'next' slide, but I see none. Kinda sucks because this site is very useful. I have www-plugins/adobe-flash version 10.0.45.2 installed. Are you using Adobe's 64-bit Flash? If so, this is apparently a very common problem. I've seen the same effect on numerous Flash applets on Facebook, for example; thus far I've been unable to figure out which Flash element is being used that doesn't work, because it's not consistent even within a single applet. --Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote: On 4/14/2010 11:38 PM, Tony Miller wrote: Hi, I've noticed that in linux(in all browsers), I cannot see the text on this page. http://musictheory.net/lessons/html/id10_en.html There is supposed to be different text each time you hit the 'next' slide, but I see none. Kinda sucks because this site is very useful. I have www-plugins/adobe-flash version 10.0.45.2 installed. Are you using Adobe's 64-bit Flash? If so, this is apparently a very common problem. I've seen the same effect on numerous Flash applets on Facebook, for example; thus far I've been unable to figure out which Flash element is being used that doesn't work, because it's not consistent even within a single applet. AFAIK this is almost always due to missing fonts on your system. Usually the corefonts package like I mentioned earlier.
Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
On 4/15/2010 12:28 AM, Dale wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Tony Millermcfiredr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've noticed that in linux(in all browsers), I cannot see the text on this page. http://musictheory.net/lessons/html/id10_en.html There is supposed to be different text each time you hit the 'next' slide, but I see none. Kinda sucks because this site is very useful. I have www-plugins/adobe-flash version 10.0.45.2 installed. Works for me using 64-bit adobe-flash-10.0.45.2-r1 in every browser I tried. I see things like: • Clefs assign individual notes to certain lines or spaces. • Two clefs are normally used: The Treble and Bass clefs. • The first clef we will discuss is the Treble Clef (also called the G Clef). • The staff line which the clef wraps around (shown above in red) is known as G. Any note placed on this line becomes G. • The note on the space above G is A. (Remember, there is not an H note). Since you know more about music than me, I may be seeing the same thing you described. I couldn't remember what some of the things were called. I only took piano lessons when I was a kid. Based on you description, it may be working the same here. No... he's actually quoting the text that should be on the page, not describing the musical elements. It's a series of bullet points describing in words what is displayed above it. So clearly you're not seeing what he is :) On the plus side: Paul Hartman is a genius; installing 'corefonts' has fixed a bunch of previously-broken Facebook games. But sadly, not this musictheory page, so I must still be missing the fonts. Paul, Is there a way to tell which font the Flash animation is trying to use? --Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
On Thursday 15 April 2010 05:12:29 Paul Hartman wrote: Works for me using 64-bit adobe-flash-10.0.45.2-r1 in every browser I tried. I'm using the same flash program with Firefox 3.6.3 and I don't see any of the text you mention. I also don't get any sound, though I don't know whether I'm supposed to. Maybe it uses fonts you don't have installed? I would specifically check for media-fonts/corefonts first... that has the standard Microsoft web fonts. Core fonts are installed here, along with 31 others. -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote: On 4/15/2010 12:28 AM, Dale wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Tony Millermcfiredr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've noticed that in linux(in all browsers), I cannot see the text on this page. http://musictheory.net/lessons/html/id10_en.html There is supposed to be different text each time you hit the 'next' slide, but I see none. Kinda sucks because this site is very useful. I have www-plugins/adobe-flash version 10.0.45.2 installed. Works for me using 64-bit adobe-flash-10.0.45.2-r1 in every browser I tried. I see things like: • Clefs assign individual notes to certain lines or spaces. • Two clefs are normally used: The Treble and Bass clefs. • The first clef we will discuss is the Treble Clef (also called the G Clef). • The staff line which the clef wraps around (shown above in red) is known as G. Any note placed on this line becomes G. • The note on the space above G is A. (Remember, there is not an H note). Since you know more about music than me, I may be seeing the same thing you described. I couldn't remember what some of the things were called. I only took piano lessons when I was a kid. Based on you description, it may be working the same here. No... he's actually quoting the text that should be on the page, not describing the musical elements. It's a series of bullet points describing in words what is displayed above it. So clearly you're not seeing what he is :) On the plus side: Paul Hartman is a genius; installing 'corefonts' has fixed a bunch of previously-broken Facebook games. But sadly, not this musictheory page, so I must still be missing the fonts. Paul, Is there a way to tell which font the Flash animation is trying to use? I would also try media-fonts/freefont-ttf if you don't have that installed. I decompiled the flash on that page and it's just using the generic _sans font, which should let it use any sans-serif font on your system. Maybe it can only use TTF fonts? I'm not really sure. If all else fails, here is the complete list of font packages I have installed on my machine: media-fonts/artwiz-aleczapka-en-1.3 media-fonts/corefonts-1-r4 media-fonts/dejavu-2.30 media-fonts/encodings-1.0.3-r1 media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.2 media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.2 media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.2 media-fonts/font-alias-1.0.2 media-fonts/font-arabic-misc-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-bh-ttf-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-bh-type1-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-cursor-misc-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-dec-misc-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-ibm-type1-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-isas-misc-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-jis-misc-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-micro-misc-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.1-r1 media-fonts/font-misc-meltho-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-misc-misc-1.1.0 media-fonts/font-mutt-misc-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc-1.1.0 media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.2 media-fonts/font-sony-misc-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-sun-misc-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-util-1.1.1-r1 media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.1 media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1-1.0.2 media-fonts/freefonts-0.10-r3 media-fonts/intlfonts-1.2.1 media-fonts/lfpfonts-fix-0.83-r2 media-fonts/lfpfonts-var-0.84 media-fonts/terminus-font-4.30 media-fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera-1.10-r3 media-fonts/unifont-5.1.20080914 media-fonts/urw-fonts-2.4.9 media-fonts/x11fonts-jmk-3.0-r1
Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
On 4/15/2010 2:25 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: I would also try media-fonts/freefont-ttf if you don't have that installed. I decompiled the flash on that page and it's just using the generic _sans font, which should let it use any sans-serif font on your system. Maybe it can only use TTF fonts? I'm not really sure. Wierd. I have all the same fonts you do, plus a few extra, and still no text in that flash. Now that I know it's a font issue I might mess around with my fonts and see if I can figure out what it's problem is. --Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote: On 4/15/2010 2:25 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: I would also try media-fonts/freefont-ttf if you don't have that installed. I decompiled the flash on that page and it's just using the generic _sans font, which should let it use any sans-serif font on your system. Maybe it can only use TTF fonts? I'm not really sure. Wierd. I have all the same fonts you do, plus a few extra, and still no text in that flash. Now that I know it's a font issue I might mess around with my fonts and see if I can figure out what it's problem is. I think the default font paths in Gentoo were changed around a few months ago (at least in ~arch), as a last resort you may want to try unmerging all font packages and then emerging them again, and restarting X afterward. I don't remember if I had to edit font paths when that happened or not... but maybe check that too. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote: On 4/15/2010 2:25 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: I would also try media-fonts/freefont-ttf if you don't have that installed. I decompiled the flash on that page and it's just using the generic _sans font, which should let it use any sans-serif font on your system. Maybe it can only use TTF fonts? I'm not really sure. Wierd. I have all the same fonts you do, plus a few extra, and still no text in that flash. Now that I know it's a font issue I might mess around with my fonts and see if I can figure out what it's problem is. I think the default font paths in Gentoo were changed around a few months ago (at least in ~arch), as a last resort you may want to try unmerging all font packages and then emerging them again, and restarting X afterward. I don't remember if I had to edit font paths when that happened or not... but maybe check that too. :) Specifically I thnik it was changed from /usr/lib/X11/fonts/ to /usr/share/fonts/ Be sure the TTF path in your xorg.conf (if you have one) is pointing to the correct place.
Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote: On 4/15/2010 2:25 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: I would also try media-fonts/freefont-ttf if you don't have that installed. I decompiled the flash on that page and it's just using the generic _sans font, which should let it use any sans-serif font on your system. Maybe it can only use TTF fonts? I'm not really sure. Wierd. I have all the same fonts you do, plus a few extra, and still no text in that flash. Now that I know it's a font issue I might mess around with my fonts and see if I can figure out what it's problem is. I just opened my web browser and ran lsof and these fonts are in use: /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/DejaVuSerif.ttf (I use DejaVu fonts as my browser default) I then opened the flash page from the original poster's message and these additional fonts are listed: /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/arial.ttf /usr/share/fonts/urw-fonts/n019004l.pfb /usr/share/fonts/urw-fonts/n019003l.pfb
Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Tony Miller mcfiredr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've noticed that in linux(in all browsers), I cannot see the text on this page. http://musictheory.net/lessons/html/id10_en.html There is supposed to be different text each time you hit the 'next' slide, but I see none. Kinda sucks because this site is very useful. I have www-plugins/adobe-flash version 10.0.45.2 installed. Works for me using 64-bit adobe-flash-10.0.45.2-r1 in every browser I tried. I see things like: • Clefs assign individual notes to certain lines or spaces. • Two clefs are normally used: The Treble and Bass clefs. • The first clef we will discuss is the Treble Clef (also called the G Clef). • The staff line which the clef wraps around (shown above in red) is known as G. Any note placed on this line becomes G. • The note on the space above G is A. (Remember, there is not an H note). and so on. Maybe it uses fonts you don't have installed? I would specifically check for media-fonts/corefonts first... that has the standard Microsoft web fonts.
Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Tony Millermcfiredr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've noticed that in linux(in all browsers), I cannot see the text on this page. http://musictheory.net/lessons/html/id10_en.html There is supposed to be different text each time you hit the 'next' slide, but I see none. Kinda sucks because this site is very useful. I have www-plugins/adobe-flash version 10.0.45.2 installed. Works for me using 64-bit adobe-flash-10.0.45.2-r1 in every browser I tried. I see things like: • Clefs assign individual notes to certain lines or spaces. • Two clefs are normally used: The Treble and Bass clefs. • The first clef we will discuss is the Treble Clef (also called the G Clef). • The staff line which the clef wraps around (shown above in red) is known as G. Any note placed on this line becomes G. • The note on the space above G is A. (Remember, there is not an H note). and so on. Maybe it uses fonts you don't have installed? I would specifically check for media-fonts/corefonts first... that has the standard Microsoft web fonts. Since you know more about music than me, I may be seeing the same thing you described. I couldn't remember what some of the things were called. I only took piano lessons when I was a kid. Based on you description, it may be working the same here. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] no text in certain flash app
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:00:41PM -0500, Dale wrote: I see the music bars in almost all the slides. I see the little keyboard on the right in a couple of them. I didn't ever see any text except for the letters that correspond to the notes. I'm assuming that the text would be almost to the bottom of the page tho. If that is correct then I can confirm it is not there with Seamonkey 2, Firefox and Konqueror. Those are the browsers I have installed. There is definitely supposed to be text on the bottom of the page. Glad its not just me. I'm probably just going to find a music theory program that isnt a webpage. -- -Tony
