Re: [gentoo-user] workspace setups
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:58:36 -0400, John Dangler wrote: I've figured out that if you open apps in one workspace, and then switch to another, those apps don't appear, which does give me some idea of the mechanics, but I'd like to customize what starts and what is available in each one individually... I don't know about GNOME, but in KDE you right click the window's titlebar and select Advanced - Special window settings. Here you can specify how the program opens its windows, including which desktop (or all of them). -- Neil Bothwick Vuja De: the feeling that you've never been here before. pgpiLlbanzgNd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] workspace setups
050831 John Dangler wrote: As in - workspace1 | workspace2 | workspace3 | workspace4 (bottom right of the task bar in gnome desktop) I've figured out that if you open apps in one workspace and then switch to another, those apps don't appear, I'd like to customize what starts is available in each individually. You must be completely new to any kind of Linux desktop (smile). Workspaces -- or 'desktops' as a lot of us tend to call them -- are the basic way of organising your activities with Linux. All (?) window managers have them they work fairly uniformly. I use KDE (also Xfce Blackbox earlier) have never used Gnome, but have never noticed a significant difference in how they function. I have 10 defined: (1) games, (2) user console, (3) editor, (4) e-mail, (5) Internet (Firefox Lynx usually), (6) Viewer (photos, maps), (7) root console, (8) Gkrellm (system info), (9-10) spare, eg for work. Your activities may be different, but that should give you an idea. I find 2 - 3 apps running on any 1 desktop is enough: you can minimise them to the taskbar or shade them to show only the titlebar. You can move app windows to another desktop via R-click on the titlebar (KDE) KDE (I assume Gnome too) will restart apps on the same desktops after you shut down re-enter X (typically after an overnight power-off). You can move between desktops via the pager in the panel (as you know) or via Cntl-F1 etc (KDE) or via mouse-wheel on panel or empty desktop. It's easy to create/remove new/existing desktops, tho' I never do that. KDE allows you to have different backgrounds for each window, eg I have a fiery orange-red for (7) root console: see your control centre. HTH -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] workspace setups
Neil Bothwick schreef: On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 23:58:36 -0400, John Dangler wrote: I've figured out that if you open apps in one workspace, and then switch to another, those apps don't appear, which does give me some idea of the mechanics, but I'd like to customize what starts and what is available in each one individually... I don't know about GNOME, but in KDE you right click the window's titlebar and select Advanced - Special window settings. Here you can specify how the program opens its windows, including which desktop (or all of them). That is a 'cool KDE feature' that GNOME doesn't have. Gnome =v2, anyway. Apparently Gnome 1.x (which used sawfish for its WM) did have some capacities in this respect. However, as previously mentioned, GNOME will remember what desktop a program was opened on in the last session, if the session was saved with the program open. But of course, all programs do not support saving their session state at the close of session (Mozilla, Firefox and T-bird being noticeable among this group), so that won't always help. I can't believe no one has mentioned it, but this function (should you choose to use it) is exactly what devilspie is for. It was designed to attempt to recreate the window-matching properties of Sawfish for other WMs. The prinicple is that devilspie watches (invisibly) for a window opening event, and when one occurs, it compares the properties of that window to the properties of the windows that you have said you want acted upon in the config, and then acts upon the window as you specified in the config. You have a fair amount of flexibility in what qualities of the window you want matched (you could match all gaim windows, or only the ones that have 'MSN' in the title) and you have a wide range of operations you can perform on the specified window (send it to a particular desktop, maximize/minimize./size to a particular size, make sticky/pin on all desktops, set it to a particular location on the desktop, etc). The documentation is decidedly minimal, and it's a good thing to know about 'xprop' to get the properties of application windows in the first place, but the included sample and reference is enough to get started with, and experimentation is not difficult. Certainly it works well and does what it says on the tin, afaics (and I've been using it for some time). However, as someone who has set up many applications to be on specific desktops, I will say that you might find it not as useful as it seems at first glance, depending on how you work. It can be quite distracting to open a program-- let's say a file manager-- because there was a message in a terminal saying 'look at thus and so file', and have the file manager open on a different desktop than the terminal (because normally you want the fm out of your way when you're working with it, but in this case you don't). So such a configuration is somewhat constricting in terms of using many applications. But for applications that aren't used flexibly (like Thunderbird, which I always open on desktop 1, so it's never in my way and I don't mind switching desktops to check my mail while I'm waiting for an emerge to finish), it can be useful. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] workspace setups
Those workspaces are a feature of your windowmanager, not gentoo. Which window manager are you using? kde, or gnome, or what? On Wednesday 31 August 2005 17:20, JD ATL LP wrote: My first email from my new gentoo laptop! I'm trying to figure out how these workspaces 'work'. I want to setup one for business, and another for dev. e.g. in the business space, i'd have office apps, stock ticker, etc showing. in the dev space, i'd have a program editor,web browser,etc. is there some gentoo or wiki docs that give me a good intro in how to customize these spaces? Thanks for the input... John D -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] workspace setups
Rats (I forgot to turn off mail on the win box) Sorry - I'm using gnome atm John D -Original Message- From: John Jolet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:25 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] workspace setups Those workspaces are a feature of your windowmanager, not gentoo. Which window manager are you using? kde, or gnome, or what? On Wednesday 31 August 2005 17:20, JD ATL LP wrote: My first email from my new gentoo laptop! I'm trying to figure out how these workspaces 'work'. I want to setup one for business, and another for dev. e.g. in the business space, i'd have office apps, stock ticker, etc showing. in the dev space, i'd have a program editor,web browser,etc. is there some gentoo or wiki docs that give me a good intro in how to customize these spaces? Thanks for the input... John D -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] workspace setups
What do you mean by workspace??? - multiple desktops via the pager? BillK On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 22:32 -0400, John Dangler wrote: ... Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] workspace setups T -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] workspace setups
As in - workspace1 | workspace2 | workspace3 | workspace4 (bottom right of the task bar in gnome desktop) I've figured out that if you open apps in one workspace, and then switch to another, those apps don't appear, which does give me some idea of the mechanics, but I'd like to customize what starts and what is available in each one individually... Thanks for the reply. John D -Original Message- From: W.Kenworthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:22 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] workspace setups What do you mean by workspace??? - multiple desktops via the pager? BillK On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 22:32 -0400, John Dangler wrote: ... Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] workspace setups T -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
