Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus

2005-06-07 Thread Mats Lidell

I wrote:

I have rebooted since the emerge so there must be something else.


Following up on my own posting but after some investigation it seems 
like my emerge is confused. If I do emerge -up world there is nothing 
that needs to be updated but


-
# emerge -up gnome-common

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-common-2.8.0 [2.4.0]
-

So from my limited understanding of emerge I guess I have some work 
getting the  portage tree in sync. (Maybe it is time for an emerge 
--update --deep --newuse world !? or what do you suggest? And how could 
this situation occur in the first place?)


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Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus

2005-06-07 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 07:48 +0200, Mats Lidell wrote:
 Ow Mun Heng wrote:
  So.. there's no menu at all?
  
  There's supposed to be app, places and Desktop 
 
 In the gnome main menu the Applications is only an empty submenu.

YOu don't see places and desktop? This 2 has to be there if it's
gnome-2.10 unless of course you chose to use the compact menu. Meaning
only showing the foot



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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-07 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 22:42 -0700, Grant wrote:
  Or try Project Gentopia and make it automatic
 
 I checked it out here:
 
 https://dev.cardoe.com/gentopia/
 
 but I can't quite figure out what it's all about.

Project Gentopia is gentoo's version of project utopia which is aimed to
take the kludge and making hardware just work

If you really want to know, you can search for robert Love's
presentation files hosted on his ximian webpage. (whereever that may be.
I can forward a copy to you off-line if needed)

Plug camera in? Icon pops up in Desktop.
Bought a new HD? plug it in and it works. No fudging with /etc/fstab.
Need to have automatic power management? Gnome-power-manager will handle
it automatically.

stuffs like that works automagically.


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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer

2005-06-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 21:04 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
 I recently emerged mplayer but it got all blue... I don't know if this
 is right but it is almost impossible to see the buttons on it may I
 done something wrong ??? can I do something now ???
 
 PS. Any skin is blue too .


mplayer does not have a skin. It is a command line program. you type

mplayer moviefile.avi

and it plays.

Are you referring to gmplayer that is a gtk front end?
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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-07 Thread Nick Rout
kimdaba is fantastic, and in portage

the database facilities of it are great, it gives the ability to quickly
and easily label your pics with arbitrary categories, name, location.
occasion, or anything else you choose.

Then you can pull up every photo with, for example, nick and party

(which of course will find nothing as I am really a quiet guy :)



On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 18:58 -0700, Grant wrote:
 What do you guys use to manage your digital photos?
 
 - Grant
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus

2005-06-07 Thread Zac Medico


--- Mats Lidell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wrote:
  I have rebooted since the emerge so there must be
 something else.
 
 Following up on my own posting but after some
 investigation it seems 
 like my emerge is confused. If I do emerge -up
 world there is nothing 
 that needs to be updated but
 
 -
 # emerge -up gnome-common
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-common-2.8.0
 [2.4.0]
 -
 
 So from my limited understanding of emerge I guess I
 have some work 
 getting the  portage tree in sync. (Maybe it is time
 for an emerge 
 --update --deep --newuse world !? or what do you
 suggest? And how could 
 this situation occur in the first place?)
 
 Yours
 -- 
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 -- 

Hi Mats,

It's working normally.

emerge -up world will only update packages that are
listed in /var/lib/portage/world.  OTH, emerge -up
gnome-common behaves just like emerge -p gnome-common.
 It is supposed to merge the latest (unmasked)
version.

I gather that gnome-common is not in your world file.
This is normal for packages that are pulled in as
dependencies.

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Re: [gentoo-user] updated gnome packages to 2.10, missing menus

2005-06-07 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 08:12 +0200, Mats Lidell wrote:
 I wrote:
  I have rebooted since the emerge so there must be something else.
 -
 # emerge -up gnome-common
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gnome-common-2.8.0 [2.4.0]
 -

Funny. I have 2.4.0 for gnome-common.

 So from my limited understanding of emerge I guess I have some work 
 getting the  portage tree in sync. (Maybe it is time for an emerge 
 --update --deep --newuse world !? 

I don't think a newuse is needed. What about gconf? is it 2.10?

Anyway.. Here's the my list of ~x86 keywords

gnome-base/gnome ~x86
gnome-extra/gnome-games ~x86
app-text/gpdf ~x86
gnome-base/control-center ~x86
gnome-base/gnome-menus ~x86
x11-libs/libxklavier ~x86
gnome-extra/zenity ~x86
x11-themes/gtk-engines ~x86
app-editors/gedit ~x86
x11-libs/gtksourceview ~x86
gnome-base/libgnomecanvas ~x86
www-client/epiphany ~x86
x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme ~x86
gnome-base/gnome-desktop ~x86
gnome-base/gnome-vfs ~x86
gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner ~x86
mail-client/evolution ~x86
gnome-extra/evolution-data-server ~x86
gnome-extra/libgtkhtml ~x86
gnome-extra/gal ~x86
gnome-extra/gnome-utils ~x86
gnome-base/gnome-panel ~x86
gnome-base/libglade ~x86
dev-libs/atk ~x86
x11-libs/libwnck ~x86
app-arch/file-roller ~x86
gnome-base/nautilus ~x86
gnome-base/eel ~x86
gnome-extra/gconf-editor ~x86
gnome-base/gconf ~x86
gnome-extra/evolution-webcal ~x86
x11-terms/gnome-terminal ~x86
net-misc/vino ~x86
gnome-base/gnome-applets ~x86
app-admin/system-tools-backends ~x86
gnome-base/libgnomeprintui ~x86
gnome-base/libgnomeprint ~x86
x11-themes/gnome-themes ~x86
gnome-base/libgnome ~x86
gnome-extra/gcalctool ~x86
gnome-base/libgnomeui ~x86
x11-libs/vte ~x86
gnome-base/gnome-keyring ~x86
media-sound/sound-juicer ~x86
gnome-extra/gnome-media ~x86
app-admin/gnome-system-tools ~x86
gnome-extra/bug-buddy ~x86
app-text/gnome-doc-utils ~x86
gnome-base/gnome-session ~x86
x11-wm/metacity ~x86
gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor ~x86
net-analyzer/gnome-netstatus ~x86
gnome-base/librsvg ~x86
x11-themes/gnome-backgrounds ~x86
media-video/totem ~x86


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo deployment scripts?

2005-06-07 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 18:00 +0200, Matthias Bethke wrote:
 the only remaining problem I
 can think of right now (I'm sure others will pop up once I try it ;)) is
 configfile management. A nightly removal of all the ._cfg* files plus
 some scheme to keep the configs in sync with an SVN server should do it.


Yep. That is most certainly a problem. Unless of course you're so sure
and you can remove CONFIG_PROTECT and then get use buildpkg's to package
in the created tbz2 with the new updated configs. (yeah, you can't use
--buildpkg to do it since it will be with the original un-changed config
files)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo deployment scripts?

2005-06-07 Thread Aniruddha Shankar
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Ow Mun Heng wrote:

 Yep. That is most certainly a problem. Unless of course you're so sure
 and you can remove CONFIG_PROTECT and then get use buildpkg's to package
 in the created tbz2 with the new updated configs. (yeah, you can't use
 --buildpkg to do it since it will be with the original un-changed config
 files)

If you quickpkg a package, IIRC it packages the *modified* etc files
into the tarball.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo deployment scripts?

2005-06-07 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 12:47 +0530, Aniruddha Shankar wrote:
 Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 
  Yep. That is most certainly a problem. Unless of course you're so sure
  and you can remove CONFIG_PROTECT and then get use buildpkg's to package
  in the created tbz2 with the new updated configs. (yeah, you can't use
  --buildpkg to do it since it will be with the original un-changed config
  files)
 
 If you quickpkg a package, IIRC it packages the *modified* etc files
 into the tarball.

Yep..Yep.. .I meant quickpkg and not buildpkg. 

Sorry for the typo

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Re: [gentoo-user] SPAM trouble

2005-06-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 15:13 +0200, Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
 Everytime its spam, so I have put her address to the white list but
 this
 does not help.

I suspect you have screwed this up, as the whitelist adds -100 to the
score. 

you are putting it in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf, and its in the
format

whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [gentoo-user] BootSplash

2005-06-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:36:59 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

 Is Bootsplash = fbsplash. ??

No. fbsplash is for later kernels. Bootsplash stopped working at about
2.6.7. See http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/gensplash/

 I do know that the gentoo version is called gensplash.

Gensplash is the collection of fbsplash, splashutils and other utilities.


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Re: [gentoo-user] BootSplash

2005-06-07 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 08:41 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:36:59 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 
  Is Bootsplash = fbsplash. ??
 
 No. fbsplash is for later kernels. Bootsplash stopped working at about
 2.6.7. See http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/gensplash/

Well as i see it, bootsplash was cause it needed to be patched at every
instance.

  I do know that the gentoo version is called gensplash.
 
 Gensplash is the collection of fbsplash, splashutils and other utilities.

yep. I know that.. I'm using Gensplash right now. (just had to make
sure)

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[gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system

2005-06-07 Thread Ezequiel Tolnay

Hi,

   I have a gentoo system that I've installed (stage 2) a few months 
ago with the default options, no optimisations. After some research I 
decided to add some optimisations in the CFLAGS and USE variables on the 
make.conf. I'll take my chances with the following configuration in CFLAGS:


   -march=athlon-xp -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -m3dnow -mmmx -msse 
-mfpmath=sse
   -fforce-addr -ftracer -fmove-all-movables -fprefetch-loop-arrays 
-maccumulate-outgoing-args

   -ffast-math

   I'm aware that it is risky to include options like -ffast-math and 
-mfpmath=sse, but I reckon that if it passes the TEST fase while merging 
it should work fine, and there are people out there that used all these 
flags on gentoo stating that their systems seem to be stable and working 
fine (and faster), so I'll give it a go.


   But enough of preliminaries, let's go to the questions:

   * My system is a bit outdated, so if I emerge --update and emerge 
--emptytree (in whichever order) I'll spend many unnecessary hours 
compiling many packages all over again (mostly all the kde 3.4.1). 
Question: Is there a way to do a mix of both?
   * I actually started with emerge --emptytree world, and failed twice 
(I have maketest in FEATURES ): gettext failed while asking for missing 
libraries (libIdontRecall{x,y,z}.so), so I disabled the maketest, then 
emerged with --resume, aborted after gettext was installed, enabled 
maketest again and finally continued emerging with --resume. Question: 
is there a way to enable/disable the maketest for a single package while 
emerging many? Note: I believe the gettext TEST phase failing is 
unrelated to my choice of compiler options, it seems to be buggy
   * I decided to emerge -f -e world on one session (to speed things 
up), and after a few packages were downloaded start emerge -e world in 
another. Question: Is it any dangerous to run more than one emerge 
simultaneously? Wouldn't it be a good idea to have emerge download all 
the required packages in the background while compiling?
   * emerge failed while testing the glibc (due to the noatime setting 
in /, which seems to be a bug in the testing script). By this time the 
emerge -f -e world had finished downloading all the packages. I 
remounted the partitions with atime and diratime and attempted to 
--resume, but it would not resume it. Question: did it fail because the 
other emerge had finished? How/where does portage store the details of 
the current emerge to allow resuming? Is there a way to resume starting 
at a particular point?
   * I saved the output of emerge -e world --pretend to a file, removed 
the brackets and their contents and prefixed each package with an = 
(equal sign), deleting all the 65 packages that I had previously emerged 
successfully. Then attempted to emerge ` cat packages.txt ` and to my 
surprise the list included the required updates, so I wen't for it. 
Question: is it expected to have some packages upgraded when the 
packages emerged were specified as =package-x.y?
   * I tried  emerge `qpkg -I -nc |grep -oe '^[^ ]*' ` --pretend  and 
it seems to do the job, but it looks like there are more packages there 
than in the list of   emerge --emptytree world --pretend , some 
violating dependencies, others blocking while requirying the ~x86 flag. 
Question: Are absolutely all the packages recompiled with emerge 
--emptytree world?


   I'm sorry to be such a pain in the arse, you must be exhausted if 
you reached this line! Anyway, thanks in advance for your support.


Ezequiel Tolnay

BTW, the glibc package failed again, this time while testing 
tst-cancel17 ... :-(

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: /etc/shadow syntax

2005-06-07 Thread Hans-Gunther Borrmann
On Monday 06 June 2005 18:54, Hans Hvelplund Odborg wrote:
 Zac Medico wrote:
 Did you see man 5 shadow?

 yes
 man 5 shadow (this all there is about the password field):
 The password field must be filled. The encryped password consists of 13 to
 24 characters from the 64 character alphabet a thru z, A thru Z, 0 thru 9,
 interpreted.

  I've used freenx
  successfully with no need to touch /etc/shadow.

 Me too. I just started wondering what the difference was

This information seems to be outdated. My root passwort in /etc/shadow 
consists of more then 30 characters and also contains other characters then 
those in the 64 character set mentioned.
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[gentoo-user] konqueror / devices

2005-06-07 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks,

my konqueror does not support the protocol devices. Which library am I 
missing?

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[gentoo-user] busybox

2005-06-07 Thread Devon Miller
I just did an 'emerge sync' and now 'emerge -pDuv world' wants to
install busybox. I've only seen busybox used in small/embedded systems,
of which this machine is neither. Nothing installed depends on it. So,
why does portage insist I need it?

dcm


Re: [gentoo-user] busybox

2005-06-07 Thread Peter Gaži
busybox replaced sash in the profile, there was a thread on it a few
days ago, check the archives... after you emerge busybox, emerge
--depclean will unmerge sash.

HTH

Peter

On 6/7/05, Devon Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just did an 'emerge sync' and now 'emerge -pDuv world' wants to install
 busybox. I've only seen busybox used in small/embedded systems, of which
 this machine is neither. Nothing installed depends on it. So, why does
 portage insist I need it?
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling Gtk-Perl-0.7009-r1

2005-06-07 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Hi,

Am Dienstag, 7. Juni 2005 13:03 schrieb Tres Passer:
 Hi,
 I've had Gtk-Perl installed before without issues (e.g. dvdrip was
 running). Now I would like to install the newest one gtk-perl-0.7009-r1
 and it dies with this [1]. At the end it wants a Mesa library - I didn't
 have Mesa installed before and I don't want to install it now.
 Is there anything else I can do (or is the error somewhere else)?

had the same problem some days ago. I don't remember, how I found the 
solution, but I symlinked /usr/lib/libMesaGL.so 
to /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so
Now everythings is working again.

 Thanks for any help!
 Cheers,
 Marc

Hth, 
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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer

2005-06-07 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
Strange I am using alsa flag and same version  maybe could be
something with my video configuration.

On 6/7/05, Claudinei Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/6/05, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I recently emerged mplayer but it got all blue... I don't know if this
  is right but it is almost impossible to see the buttons on it may I
  done something wrong ??? can I do something now ???
 
  PS. Any skin is blue too .
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 hmmm, not sure about but sometimes removing some unecessary flags could help.
 actually I'm using the latest stable version (1.0_pre6-r4) with 3dnow,
 alsa, divx4linux and others flags and this works fine.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer

2005-06-07 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
I am Refering to MPlayer a front end aplication.

On 6/7/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 21:04 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
  I recently emerged mplayer but it got all blue... I don't know if this
  is right but it is almost impossible to see the buttons on it may I
  done something wrong ??? can I do something now ???
 
  PS. Any skin is blue too .
 
 
 mplayer does not have a skin. It is a command line program. you type
 
 mplayer moviefile.avi
 
 and it plays.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling Gtk-Perl-0.7009-r1

2005-06-07 Thread Marc Woog
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:

Am Dienstag, 7. Juni 2005 13:03 schrieb Tres Passer:
  

I've had Gtk-Perl installed before without issues (e.g. dvdrip was
running). Now I would like to install the newest one gtk-perl-0.7009-r1
and it dies with this [1]. At the end it wants a Mesa library - I didn't
have Mesa installed before and I don't want to install it now.
Is there anything else I can do (or is the error somewhere else)?



had the same problem some days ago. I don't remember, how I found the 
solution, but I symlinked /usr/lib/libMesaGL.so 
to /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so
Now everythings is working again.
  

That did it! Thanks for the tip (although I don't really see the logic
behind it)!

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-07 Thread maxim wexler


 mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \
 -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \
 -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
 \
Not it's:

mkisofs: Missing pathspec.
Usage: mkisofs [options] file...

You didn't say return to /  so I'm assuming you want
me  to issue the command from livecd tmp #. Also, I
added 'cdboot' to the second line, ie -b
cdboot/boot/grub/..  since 

livecd tmp # ls 
cdboot grub-2005.0 grub-setup

and got the same error.





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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-07 Thread Grant
   Or try Project Gentopia and make it automatic
 
  I checked it out here:
 
  https://dev.cardoe.com/gentopia/
 
  but I can't quite figure out what it's all about.
 
 Project Gentopia is gentoo's version of project utopia which is aimed to
 take the kludge and making hardware just work
 
 If you really want to know, you can search for robert Love's
 presentation files hosted on his ximian webpage. (whereever that may be.
 I can forward a copy to you off-line if needed)
 
 Plug camera in? Icon pops up in Desktop.
 Bought a new HD? plug it in and it works. No fudging with /etc/fstab.
 Need to have automatic power management? Gnome-power-manager will handle
 it automatically.
 
 stuffs like that works automagically.

Is this clearly a step forward?  In other words, will all Gentoo
systems be operating on Gentopia or something like it eventually?

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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-07 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 6/7/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or try Project Gentopia and make it automatic
  
   I checked it out here:
  
   https://dev.cardoe.com/gentopia/
  
   but I can't quite figure out what it's all about.
 
  Project Gentopia is gentoo's version of project utopia which is aimed to
  take the kludge and making hardware just work
 
  If you really want to know, you can search for robert Love's
  presentation files hosted on his ximian webpage. (whereever that may be.
  I can forward a copy to you off-line if needed)
 
  Plug camera in? Icon pops up in Desktop.
  Bought a new HD? plug it in and it works. No fudging with /etc/fstab.
  Need to have automatic power management? Gnome-power-manager will handle
  it automatically.
 
  stuffs like that works automagically.
 
 Is this clearly a step forward?  In other words, will all Gentoo
 systems be operating on Gentopia or something like it eventually?
 
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I don't think so, Gentoo (at least as far as I know) is minimalist and
provides you with choices. Making it all automagic seems cool to the
average user that don't have time, patience or will to know what's
happening in the system, but making it default would take the freedom
of people that want to dive deep into the config files and dev files
to get the most of the hardware and take control of the system. Of
course its a good idea for people to taste Linux and maybe make them
curious about knowing more of the system to take advantage of all the
hardware upgrades.

I think that stuff that does magic tricks in the computer software
world gets bigger, buggy, unstable and slower as time passes and more
tricks are added, and then you think of... Micro$oft and Ruindow$. I
sincerely hope it never happens to any Lin distro.

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[gentoo-user] logs changed from bz2 to gz

2005-06-07 Thread Philip Webb
I've just noticed that between 050526  050531 compression in  /var/log
changed from  .bz2  to  .gz   the  .bz2  files are just sitting there.
The only emerge I did during that interval which might have affected this
is Debianutils , which is required for Sysklogd , my logger.
Since Bzip2 does a tighter compression than Gzip , the change seems odd.

Does anyone have any insights into this change ?
Any reasons to use a different logger rather than Sysklogd ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-07 Thread Grant
 I don't think so, Gentoo (at least as far as I know) is minimalist and
 provides you with choices. Making it all automagic seems cool to the
 average user that don't have time, patience or will to know what's
 happening in the system, but making it default would take the freedom
 of people that want to dive deep into the config files and dev files
 to get the most of the hardware and take control of the system. Of
 course its a good idea for people to taste Linux and maybe make them
 curious about knowing more of the system to take advantage of all the
 hardware upgrades.
 
 I think that stuff that does magic tricks in the computer software
 world gets bigger, buggy, unstable and slower as time passes and more
 tricks are added, and then you think of... Micro$oft and Ruindow$. I
 sincerely hope it never happens to any Lin distro.
 
 Just my two cents...
 
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 Daniel da Veiga

But don't you think the computer systems of the future would surely
implement something like Gentopia?  Things can always be done
manually, but automatic seems like a step forward.  On the other hand,
I do agree with the things you're saying.  This is why I asked the
question.  I'm not sure about this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I set xorg.conf monitor scan rates for S-Video/TV output?

2005-06-07 Thread Yrjö Hatakka
Viestissä tiistai, 7. kesäkuuta 2005 01:07, Mark Knecht kirjoitti:

Thanks for the clarification that I should be concentrating on the
 fglrx driver.

Here's a config that works with my Radeon 9600 and CRT/TV to look at.
Xorg and Ati-drivers
http://www.isovarvas.com/~yka/files/xorg.conf

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[gentoo-user] RapidSVN emerge failed

2005-06-07 Thread Kurt Guenther

I get this link error below when I emerge RapidSVN.  I entered an error
in bugzilla; hopefully, I did it right this time. ;-).

--Kurt



i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe -Wall -g -fexceptions
-I/usr/lib/wx/include/gtk2-2.4 -DGTK_NO_CHECK_CASTS -D__WXGTK__
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -o .libs/rapidsvn about_dlg.o
action.o add_action.o auth_dlg.o bookmarks.o cert_dlg.o
checkout_action.o checkout_dlg.o cleanup_action.o commit_action.o
commit_dlg.o delete_action.o delete_dlg.o destination_dlg.o
diff_action.o diff_dlg.o exceptions.o external_program_action.o
filelist_ctrl.o file_info.o folder_browser.o folder_item_data.o
get_action.o import_action.o import_dlg.o listed_dlg.o listener.o
log_action.o log_dlg.o merge_action.o merge_dlg.o mkdir_action.o
move_action.o preferences.o preferences_dlg.o property_action.o
property_dlg.o proportional_splitter.o rapidsvn_app.o rapidsvn_frame.o
report_dlg.o resolve_action.o revert_action.o simple_worker.o
switch_action.o tracer.o trace_update.o tviewer.o update_action.o
update_dlg.o utils.o verblist.o view_action.o 
-L/var/tmp/portage/rapidsvn-0.6.0-r1/work/rapidsvn-0.6.0/src/svncpp
/var/tmp/portage/rapidsvn-0.6.0-r1/work/rapidsvn-0.6.0/src/svncpp/.libs/libsvncpp.so
-L/usr/lib /usr/lib/libsvn_client-1.so /usr/lib/libsvn_wc-1.so
/usr/lib/libsvn_ra-1.so /usr/lib/libsvn_delta-1.so
/usr/lib/libsvn_subr-1.so /usr/lib/libneon.so -lssl -lcrypto
/usr/lib/libxml2.so -lz /usr/lib/libapr-0.so -lrt -lm -lcrypt -lnsl
-lpthread -ldl /usr/lib/libaprutil-0.so /usr/lib/libldap.so
/usr/lib/liblber.so /usr/lib/libgdbm.so /usr/lib/libdb-4.1.so
/usr/lib/libexpat.so -pthread -lwx_gtk2-2.4
/usr/lib/libwx_gtk2-2.4.so: undefined reference to `_gtk_accel_group_detach'
/usr/lib/libwx_gtk2-2.4.so: undefined reference to `_gtk_accel_group_attach'
/usr/lib/libwx_gtk2-2.4.so: undefined reference to
`_gtk_rc_context_get_default_font_name'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [rapidsvn] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/rapidsvn-0.6.0-r1/work/rapidsvn-0.6.0/src'

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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-07 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 6/7/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 But don't you think the computer systems of the future would surely
 implement something like Gentopia?  Things can always be done
 manually, but automatic seems like a step forward.  On the other hand,
 I do agree with the things you're saying.  This is why I asked the
 question.  I'm not sure about this.
 
 - Grant
 

The problem isn't Gentopia or any system like it, I trully admire
people that work with this kind of software, the effort of these
people often brings users to the Lin systems, but lets look it the
other way, I know neither this list nor this topic are meant for that,
but since we're here, lets spam a little.

The whole PC industry is not standard, if it was, I could unplug my
mouse, plug another one completely different and it would work without
changing the software. But that's good, cause it means using software
allows engineers to develop new hardware that can do things that are
very usefull. On the other hand, that means that OS programmers go
crazy trying to support all these different hardwares, and with the
whole copyright stuff, those who create the hardware want to control
WHO uses it and do not open its drivers code, this way making the
lifes of the OS developers a living hell if they do not make a lot of
comercial agreements. That's where Lin looses to M$ (and only there).

Now, lets imagine the list of new hardware created every day, its a
BIG database, and growing alot, now lets think about 10% of it is not
compatible with standard or generic drivers, that is still a LOT of
space. So, we get win, with its old 30 Mb space required (3.11), then
200Mb (95/98) and now almost 2Gb (XP).

The fact is that we need the hardware corporations to release drivers
for its hardware that works on all systems, take a look at NVidia, it
took me 10 minutes to install my video drive, both on Win and Lin.
What I meant to say is: To support new hardware should be more of a
hardware engineer problem than an OS programmer one.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge suddenly blocked

2005-06-07 Thread Robert Crawford
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 12:24 pm, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 This morning I can no longer emerge world.  It says (in part)

  treat root # emerge -aDvu world  etc-update
 
  These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
  Calculating world dependencies ...done!
  [blocks B ] =x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.8.2 (is blocking
  x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.6.3)

 and later

  Total size of downloads: 45,079 kB
 
  !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
  installed !!!on the same system.
 
  treat root #

 Now since my package.mask and package.keywords are both empty, I don't
 think it's anything I did.  How can I get this working again, or is this a
 momentary glitch
 that will go away by itself?

 ++ kevin

Remove the blocking package (emerge -C =(the blocking package), then do emerge 
-aDvu world again. This is a very common procedure. Afterwards, if needed, 
remerge the package you unmerged. Sometimes an updated package for the one 
you removed shows up in the list AFTER the blocked package is emerged.

I'd question doing the  etc-update, as if it runs etc-update automatically 
with the -5 option, you might be screwed. I always back up my entire /etc 
directory (at the very least) before a major emerge system or world. Then I 
always go through etc-update manually. If you know what to look for, and 
don't blindly update files that don't need it, it doesn't take that long.

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Fish
maxim wexler wrote:

  

mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \
-b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \
-no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
\


Not it's:

mkisofs: Missing pathspec.
Usage: mkisofs [options] file...

  


There be a '.' (or './', if you like) at the end of that, and yes, you
should still be inside the cdboot directory.

cd cdboot
mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \
-b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \
-no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 \
-boot-info-table ./

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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-07 Thread Grant
 What I meant to say is: To support new hardware should be more of a
 hardware engineer problem than an OS programmer one.

I see, very interesting.  From that point of view, Gentopia is a
temporary solution until hardware manufacturers get it together.  But
even so, doesn't Gentopia mimic the end that open or cross-platform
hardware drivers will achieve?

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[gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?

2005-06-07 Thread Claus Ladekjær Wilson
I run an ADSL-connection to connect to the internet and my ISP runs dhcp. It 
works but it takes about one minute to get my ip-address. 
Could I possibly see somewhere why it takes that long?
I use /etc/init.d/eth.net start to connect.
Is there another way?
Do I miss some configuration or is it normal to need waiting 1 minute for an 
ip-address?
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Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices

2005-06-07 Thread Christoph Eckert

 my konqueror does not support the protocol devices. Which
 library am I missing?

maybe emerge -pv kdebase will show you use flags which have 
been disabled during compile time?


Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 stopped logging referrers

2005-06-07 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Grant wrote:
 It seems that apache2 has stopped logging referrers.  Where can I set
 it to log them again?
 
 - Grant
 

into httpd.conf put something like this:

ErrorLog logs/this.is.your.site.com_error
CustomLog logs/this.is.your.site.com_log common
CustomLog logs/this.is.your.site.com_referer referer




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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge suddenly blocked

2005-06-07 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 6/7/05, Robert Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 07 June 2005 12:24 pm, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  This morning I can no longer emerge world.  It says (in part)
 
   treat root # emerge -aDvu world  etc-update
  
   These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
  
   Calculating world dependencies ...done!
   [blocks B ] =x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.8.2 (is blocking
   x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.6.3)
 
  and later
 
   Total size of downloads: 45,079 kB
  
   !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
   installed !!!on the same system.
  
   treat root #
 
  Now since my package.mask and package.keywords are both empty, I don't
  think it's anything I did.  How can I get this working again, or is this a
  momentary glitch
  that will go away by itself?
 
  ++ kevin
 
 Remove the blocking package (emerge -C =(the blocking package), then do emerge
 -aDvu world again. This is a very common procedure. Afterwards, if needed,
 remerge the package you unmerged. Sometimes an updated package for the one
 you removed shows up in the list AFTER the blocked package is emerged.
 
 I'd question doing the  etc-update, as if it runs etc-update automatically
 with the -5 option, you might be screwed. I always back up my entire /etc
 directory (at the very least) before a major emerge system or world. Then I
 always go through etc-update manually. If you know what to look for, and
 don't blindly update files that don't need it, it doesn't take that long.
 
 Robert Crawford
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Thanks.  I'll try it this way; I've not had to deal with this before.

Not to fear.  This is not in a script, it's in the console.  It's just
a way to make
sure I don't *forget* to do etc-update.  This way, when it's all done
and I finally
go back to the desktop where it was happening, it's sitting there reminding me
to play with my config files again.

I'm a disorganized person in general, but I cope by having procedures with
the important reminders in place.

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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-07 Thread David D. Rea
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 13:32 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:

 The fact is that we need the hardware corporations to release drivers
 for its hardware that works on all systems, take a look at NVidia, it
 took me 10 minutes to install my video drive, both on Win and Lin.
 What I meant to say is: To support new hardware should be more of a
 hardware engineer problem than an OS programmer one.

At the risk of playing devil's advocate, there's a flipside to this.
Code is [almost] never perfect, and anyone who subscribes to
gentoo-announce knows that there are almost always security flaws
discovered (and patched) after an initial version is released.

If more functionality is pulled into the hardware, with the same
potential for flaws (security or otherwise), then you've got a tough
predicament. As a hardware engineer, do you spec more expensive
re-programmable parts, or do you risk premature obsolescence (and
potentially millions of $$ in lost NRE charges) by using ROM-based
parts? Consider a video vendor who spins an ASIC (a custom chip) for its
latest graphics card... They might spend $50 million in mask fees to
have the new chip produced. Amortized over 100,000 graphics cards
produced, this is less expensive to them (and thus to us as consumers)
than instead spec'ing a re-programmable chip that costs 5x as much.

What's really needed is not for hardware engineers to integrate more
functionality into their hardware, but rather for hardware and software
engineers to better work together. There's plenty of open-ness on the
part of software engineers; but the companies don't want to release the
gritty technical details of their products, and thus the hardware
engineers' hands are tied. Open the eyes of the managers and
administrators, and you'll open the hardware.

Just my $0.02 as a hardware designer who regularly struggles with these
same issues... :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Fish
Ezequiel Tolnay wrote:

 Hi,

I have a gentoo system that I've installed (stage 2) a few months
 ago with the default options, no optimisations. After some research I
 decided to add some optimisations in the CFLAGS and USE variables on
 the make.conf. I'll take my chances with the following configuration
 in CFLAGS:

-march=athlon-xp -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -m3dnow -mmmx -msse
 -mfpmath=sse
-fforce-addr -ftracer -fmove-all-movables -fprefetch-loop-arrays
 -maccumulate-outgoing-args
-ffast-math


Ok, but don't bother to post any questions or bug reports about
such-n-such fails to build/crashes/etc.  They will probably get
ignored! ;-

* My system is a bit outdated, so if I emerge --update and emerge
 --emptytree (in whichever order) I'll spend many unnecessary hours
 compiling many packages all over again (mostly all the kde 3.4.1).
 Question: Is there a way to do a mix of both?


Your best bet is probably emerge --emptytree world.  That will
basically emerge the current version of world and all dependancies. 
Nothing will be built twice.

* I decided to emerge -f -e world on one session (to speed things
 up), and after a few packages were downloaded start emerge -e world in
 another. Question: Is it any dangerous to run more than one emerge
 simultaneously? Wouldn't it be a good idea to have emerge download all
 the required packages in the background while compiling?


As long as you can download faster than you can compile, this is not a
problem.  I do it myself frequently.

* emerge failed while testing the glibc (due to the noatime setting
 in /, which seems to be a bug in the testing script). By this time the
 emerge -f -e world had finished downloading all the packages. I
 remounted the partitions with atime and diratime and attempted to
 --resume, but it would not resume it. Question: did it fail because
 the other emerge had finished? How/where does portage store the
 details of the current emerge to allow resuming? Is there a way to
 resume starting at a particular point?


When I last rebuilt everything, I did it by:

emerge --emptytree --pretend world \
| grep / \
| awk -F']' '{ print $2 }' buildlist.txt

This will give you a complete list of packages to be rebuilt, in order,
including dependancies.  You can then do:

for x in `cat buildlist.txt`; do
emerge --oneshot $x
if test $? -ne 0; then
   echo package $x failed
   break
fi
done

Thus, if something fails, you just edit the list to remove everything
that was built, and continue on. 

* I saved the output of emerge -e world --pretend to a file,
 removed the brackets and their contents and prefixed each package with
 an = (equal sign), deleting all the 65 packages that I had previously
 emerged successfully. Then attempted to emerge ` cat packages.txt `
 and to my surprise the list included the required updates, so I wen't
 for it. Question: is it expected to have some packages upgraded when
 the packages emerged were specified as =package-x.y?

Well, the emerge -e world --pretend is going to show you the required
updates.  If you double check the output, you will probably see that the
version you specified with the '=' _is_ the updated version.

A word of warning...add --oneshot to your emerge command if you do
things this way.  Otherwise you will add a bunch of crap to your world
file that you almost certainly do _not_ want there!

* I tried  emerge `qpkg -I -nc |grep -oe '^[^ ]*' ` --pretend 
 and it seems to do the job, but it looks like there are more packages
 there than in the list of   emerge --emptytree world --pretend ,
 some violating dependencies, others blocking while requirying the ~x86
 flag. Question: Are absolutely all the packages recompiled with emerge
 --emptytree world?


Rebuilding with --emptytree world will rebuild everything in the world
file, or is a dependancy of something in the world file.  This is not
quite the same as all installed packages, because some packages may have
been added as dependancies of packages that you have since unmerged. 
For example, if you emerge evolution, you get a bunch of gnome stuff
that is not removed if you unmerge it.  You can view what packages are
'leftovers' by running emerge --depclean --pretend

BTW, this is why you want --oneshot.  In the example above, if you had
emerged each dependancy of evolution explicitly, the dependancies would
be added to your world file and would not show up in --depclean output.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Fish
Ezequiel Tolnay wrote:

 Hi,

I have a gentoo system that I've installed (stage 2) a few months
 ago with the default options, no optimisations. After some research I
 decided to add some optimisations in the CFLAGS and USE variables on
 the make.conf. I'll take my chances with the following configuration
 in CFLAGS:

-march=athlon-xp -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -m3dnow -mmmx -msse
 -mfpmath=sse
-fforce-addr -ftracer -fmove-all-movables -fprefetch-loop-arrays
 -maccumulate-outgoing-args
-ffast-math


Ok, but don't bother to post any questions or bug reports about
such-n-such fails to build/crashes/etc.  They will probably get
ignored! ;-

* My system is a bit outdated, so if I emerge --update and emerge
 --emptytree (in whichever order) I'll spend many unnecessary hours
 compiling many packages all over again (mostly all the kde 3.4.1).
 Question: Is there a way to do a mix of both?


Your best bet is probably emerge --emptytree world.  That will
basically emerge the current version of world and all dependancies. 
Nothing will be built twice.

* I decided to emerge -f -e world on one session (to speed things
 up), and after a few packages were downloaded start emerge -e world in
 another. Question: Is it any dangerous to run more than one emerge
 simultaneously? Wouldn't it be a good idea to have emerge download all
 the required packages in the background while compiling?


As long as you can download faster than you can compile, this is not a
problem.  I do it myself frequently.

* emerge failed while testing the glibc (due to the noatime setting
 in /, which seems to be a bug in the testing script). By this time the
 emerge -f -e world had finished downloading all the packages. I
 remounted the partitions with atime and diratime and attempted to
 --resume, but it would not resume it. Question: did it fail because
 the other emerge had finished? How/where does portage store the
 details of the current emerge to allow resuming? Is there a way to
 resume starting at a particular point?


Using the complete list of packages to emerge like you talk about below
is the best way to handle a failure for rebuilding everything.

When I last rebuilt everything, I did it by:

emerge --emptytree --pretend world \
| grep / \
| awk -F']' '{ print $2 }' buildlist.txt

for x in `cat buildlist.txt`; do
emerge --oneshot $x
if test $? -ne 0; then
   echo package $x failed
   break
fi
done

* I saved the output of emerge -e world --pretend to a file,
 removed the brackets and their contents and prefixed each package with
 an = (equal sign), deleting all the 65 packages that I had previously
 emerged successfully. Then attempted to emerge ` cat packages.txt `
 and to my surprise the list included the required updates, so I wen't
 for it. Question: is it expected to have some packages upgraded when
 the packages emerged were specified as =package-x.y?

Well, the emerge -e world --pretend is going to show you the required
updates.  If you double check the output, you will probably see that the
version you specified with the '=' _is_ the updated version.

A word of warning...add --oneshot to your emerge command if you do
things this way.  Otherwise you will add a bunch of crap to your world
file that you almost certainly do _not_ want there!

* I tried  emerge `qpkg -I -nc |grep -oe '^[^ ]*' ` --pretend 
 and it seems to do the job, but it looks like there are more packages
 there than in the list of   emerge --emptytree world --pretend ,
 some violating dependencies, others blocking while requirying the ~x86
 flag. Question: Are absolutely all the packages recompiled with emerge
 --emptytree world?


Rebuilding with --emptytree world will rebuild everything in the world
file, or is a dependancy of something in the world file.  This is not
quite the same as all installed packages, because some packages may have
been added as dependancies of packages that you have since unmerged. 
For example, if you emerge evolution, you get a bunch of gnome stuff
that is not removed if you unmerge it.  You can view what packages are
'leftovers' by running emerge --depclean --pretend

BTW, this is why you want --oneshot.  In the example above, if you had
emerged each dependancy of evolution explicitly, the dependancies would
be added to your world file and would not show up in --depclean output.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?

2005-06-07 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 07 juin à 17:26:48 Claus Ladekjær Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit 
notamment:

 I run an ADSL-connection to connect to the internet and my ISP runs dhcp. It 
 works but it takes about one minute to get my ip-address. 
 Could I possibly see somewhere why it takes that long?
 I use /etc/init.d/eth.net start to connect.
 Is there another way?

You might start it at boot with rc-update add net.eth0 default

 Do I miss some configuration or is it normal to need waiting 1 minute for an
 ip-address?

[...]

It certainly is longer than usual, but maybe it is due to your provider
hth,
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Re: [gentoo-user] logs changed from bz2 to gz

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Fish
Philip Webb wrote:

I've just noticed that between 050526  050531 compression in  /var/log
changed from  .bz2  to  .gz   the  .bz2  files are just sitting there.
The only emerge I did during that interval which might have affected this
is Debianutils , which is required for Sysklogd , my logger.
Since Bzip2 does a tighter compression than Gzip , the change seems odd.
  


Hmm, I thought log rotation was controlled by logrotate, in which case
the default is gzip, but you can change it in /etc/logrotate.conf. 
Maybe things work differently with sysklogd though...I am using syslog-ng.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Fish
Sorry about the duplicate posts...I wasn't quick enough on the 'cancel'
on the first one!

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Re: [gentoo-user] RapidSVN emerge failed

2005-06-07 Thread Kurt Guenther

I just needed to reemerge wxGTK.




Kurt Guenther wrote:

I get this link error below when I emerge RapidSVN.  I entered an error
in bugzilla; hopefully, I did it right this time. ;-).

--Kurt



i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe -Wall -g -fexceptions
-I/usr/lib/wx/include/gtk2-2.4 -DGTK_NO_CHECK_CASTS -D__WXGTK__
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -o .libs/rapidsvn about_dlg.o
action.o add_action.o auth_dlg.o bookmarks.o cert_dlg.o
checkout_action.o checkout_dlg.o cleanup_action.o commit_action.o
commit_dlg.o delete_action.o delete_dlg.o destination_dlg.o
diff_action.o diff_dlg.o exceptions.o external_program_action.o
filelist_ctrl.o file_info.o folder_browser.o folder_item_data.o
get_action.o import_action.o import_dlg.o listed_dlg.o listener.o
log_action.o log_dlg.o merge_action.o merge_dlg.o mkdir_action.o
move_action.o preferences.o preferences_dlg.o property_action.o
property_dlg.o proportional_splitter.o rapidsvn_app.o rapidsvn_frame.o
report_dlg.o resolve_action.o revert_action.o simple_worker.o
switch_action.o tracer.o trace_update.o tviewer.o update_action.o
update_dlg.o utils.o verblist.o view_action.o 
-L/var/tmp/portage/rapidsvn-0.6.0-r1/work/rapidsvn-0.6.0/src/svncpp
/var/tmp/portage/rapidsvn-0.6.0-r1/work/rapidsvn-0.6.0/src/svncpp/.libs/libsvncpp.so
-L/usr/lib /usr/lib/libsvn_client-1.so /usr/lib/libsvn_wc-1.so
/usr/lib/libsvn_ra-1.so /usr/lib/libsvn_delta-1.so
/usr/lib/libsvn_subr-1.so /usr/lib/libneon.so -lssl -lcrypto
/usr/lib/libxml2.so -lz /usr/lib/libapr-0.so -lrt -lm -lcrypt -lnsl
-lpthread -ldl /usr/lib/libaprutil-0.so /usr/lib/libldap.so
/usr/lib/liblber.so /usr/lib/libgdbm.so /usr/lib/libdb-4.1.so
/usr/lib/libexpat.so -pthread -lwx_gtk2-2.4
/usr/lib/libwx_gtk2-2.4.so: undefined reference to `_gtk_accel_group_detach'
/usr/lib/libwx_gtk2-2.4.so: undefined reference to `_gtk_accel_group_attach'
/usr/lib/libwx_gtk2-2.4.so: undefined reference to
`_gtk_rc_context_get_default_font_name'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [rapidsvn] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/rapidsvn-0.6.0-r1/work/rapidsvn-0.6.0/src'

  


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Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 stopped logging referrers

2005-06-07 Thread Grant
  It seems that apache2 has stopped logging referrers.  Where can I set
  it to log them again?
 
  - Grant
 
 
 into httpd.conf put something like this:
 
 ErrorLog logs/this.is.your.site.com_error
 CustomLog logs/this.is.your.site.com_log common
 CustomLog logs/this.is.your.site.com_referer referer

Yeah it looks like the new Gentoo apache2 layout (apache2.conf -
httpd.conf) has moved the referer and user agents into separate log
files.  Why is that?

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[gentoo-user] OT: Open Office toolbar

2005-06-07 Thread James
Hello

Sorry about this post, as I'm desperate for suggestions as to where
to get answers; hours of googling and noodling with ooffice leave 
me with a simple problem, which just may be KDE relatedthat
I cannot figure out? Maybe an upgrade of ooffice is needed?
currently (1.1.4-r1) is installed via portage.

The View- toolbars selection usually puts any of the choices
(function bar, text bar, object bar, main toolbar etc) into
the header of the ooffice gui. However, the text object bar
(or the object bar) displays in a popup menu (very annoying),
for the last few days. On a winblowz system you just move it
over the header section and it 'sucks' back into the header.
However no matter what I do, I can  get it back into the
header I'm not even sure what I did to move it (the popup
of the object toolbar) from the header to a popup?

Ideas or places to research this question are most appreciated...


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Open Office toolbar

2005-06-07 Thread Zac Medico


--- James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello
 
 Sorry about this post, as I'm desperate for
 suggestions as to where
 to get answers; hours of googling and noodling with
 ooffice leave 
 me with a simple problem, which just may be KDE
 relatedthat
 I cannot figure out? Maybe an upgrade of ooffice is
 needed?
 currently (1.1.4-r1) is installed via portage.
 
 The View- toolbars selection usually puts any of
 the choices
 (function bar, text bar, object bar, main toolbar
 etc) into
 the header of the ooffice gui. However, the text
 object bar
 (or the object bar) displays in a popup menu (very
 annoying),
 for the last few days. On a winblowz system you just
 move it
 over the header section and it 'sucks' back into the
 header.
 However no matter what I do, I can  get it back into
 the
 header I'm not even sure what I did to move it
 (the popup
 of the object toolbar) from the header to a popup?
 
 Ideas or places to research this question are most
 appreciated...
 
 

Obvious dirty hack: rm -rf ~/.openoffice

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Open Office toolbar

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Fish
James wrote:

Hello

Sorry about this post, as I'm desperate for suggestions as to where
to get answers; hours of googling and noodling with ooffice leave 
me with a simple problem, which just may be KDE relatedthat
I cannot figure out? Maybe an upgrade of ooffice is needed?
currently (1.1.4-r1) is installed via portage.

The View- toolbars selection usually puts any of the choices
(function bar, text bar, object bar, main toolbar etc) into
the header of the ooffice gui. However, the text object bar
(or the object bar) displays in a popup menu (very annoying),
for the last few days. On a winblowz system you just move it
over the header section and it 'sucks' back into the header.
However no matter what I do, I can  get it back into the
header I'm not even sure what I did to move it (the popup
of the object toolbar) from the header to a popup?

Ideas or places to research this question are most appreciated...

  


Looks like maybe you might need to use the Ctrl key to dock it back to
the toolbar...

http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors/menus_toolbars.pdf

Sorry I can't be more help...I upgraded to OOo 2.0 beta, and it works as
you would expect.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer

2005-06-07 Thread Nick Rout
OK what ebuild is it in?

On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 10:44 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
 I am Refering to MPlayer a front end aplication.
 
 On 6/7/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 21:04 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
   I recently emerged mplayer but it got all blue... I don't know if this
   is right but it is almost impossible to see the buttons on it may I
   done something wrong ??? can I do something now ???
  
   PS. Any skin is blue too .
  
  
  mplayer does not have a skin. It is a command line program. you type
  
  mplayer moviefile.avi
  
  and it plays.
  
  Are you referring to gmplayer that is a gtk front end?
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[gentoo-user] Turn off monitor

2005-06-07 Thread John J. Foster
Good afternoon,

While working in X, my monitor automatically shuts off after 10 minutes
idle. That is expected behavior. However, I've found my increasingly
working only at a console. Right now the screen just blanks. Is it
possible to have it power off after a certain idle time?

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[gentoo-user] esd or arts, sound daemon howto

2005-06-07 Thread Claudinei Matos
hi,

I have 2 box with gentoo, one at my home and other at work.
well, the one of home have alsa drivers for sound and I used gnome as
desktop for a while.
I always was able to listen sound from a lot of softwares at same time
and didn't needed to do any manual configuration to this.
At my work machine I have installed gnome and some parts of kde but I
preferer to use xfce instead. Since I've installed this system I never
could get 2 or more softwares at the same time 'cause the second
instance can't access dsp device.
I did setup alsa correctly and even that never works.
Some days ago I was installing skype at home and had to work with
somethings about esd and arts.
Coming to my job I did get a try to use start esd at shell prompt and
suddenly I could run a lot of xmms instances and listen to all they at
the same time.

Well, now I know that if I want to run 2 or more softwares at same
time I have to use esd or arts but I don't want to start it manually
all the time so I want to know if is there some place to setup
arts,esd or even other sound daemon?

tks in advice

claudinei matos

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[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Open Office toolbar

2005-06-07 Thread James
Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes:

  However, the text object bar
 (or the object bar) displays in a popup menu (very annoying),
 for the last few days. 


 Looks like maybe you might need to use the Ctrl key to dock it back to
 the toolbar...
 
 http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors/menus_toolbars.pdf



That did the trick.

thanks for the document too!


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Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?

2005-06-07 Thread Claus Ladekjær Wilson

Problem is, that another version of gentoo (1.4) connects immediately where as 
my present version takes about one minute. So I really miss to know what is 
wrong about my configuration! Hope somebody could give an advice!



Tirsdag den 7. juni 2005 19:29 skrev Jean Magnan de Bornier:
 Le 07 juin à 17:26:48 Claus Ladekjær Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit 
notamment:
  I run an ADSL-connection to connect to the internet and my ISP runs dhcp.
  It works but it takes about one minute to get my ip-address.
  Could I possibly see somewhere why it takes that long?
  I use /etc/init.d/eth.net start to connect.
  Is there another way?

 You might start it at boot with rc-update add net.eth0 default

  Do I miss some configuration or is it normal to need waiting 1 minute for
  an ip-address?

 [...]

 It certainly is longer than usual, but maybe it is due to your provider
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Re: [gentoo-user] esd or arts, sound daemon howto

2005-06-07 Thread Christoph Eckert

 Coming to my job I did get a try to use start esd at shell
 prompt and suddenly I could run a lot of xmms instances and
 listen to all they at the same time.

PLease note that xmms (unlike many others) has various output 
plugins for several sound systems.

The advantage of audio servers are that there are many. Run 
arts = apps needing esound cannot output audio (and vice 
versa).

The currently best solution is to configure the DMIX plugin 
for ALSA (search alsa.opensrc.org for sharing) and run both 
arts and esound on top of it. This way, arts and esound aware 
applications can play sound *as well as* applications which 
can output sound directly to the hardware device.

 Well, now I know that if I want to run 2 or more softwares
 at same time I have to use esd or arts but I don't want to
 start it manually all the time so I want to know if is
 there some place to setup arts,esd or even other sound
 daemon?

Even if you're not running KDE you can install arts standalone 
and start it via any login script. Dunno where esound can get 
started.

Hope this helps.


Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?

2005-06-07 Thread Zac Medico


--- Claus Ladekjær Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Problem is, that another version of gentoo (1.4)
 connects immediately where as 
 my present version takes about one minute. So I
 really miss to know what is 
 wrong about my configuration! Hope somebody could
 give an advice!
 

/sbin/dhcpcd is the client program.  Maybe you can
copy it from the other box just to see if there is a
difference.

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Re: [gentoo-user] WMP v.9 files

2005-06-07 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 08:04:06PM -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote
 If anyone can play the videos at 
 
 http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/carter_family/artist.jhtml
 
 I's appreciate hearing what player you used.  Thanks.

  I don't know if it's the player; maybe the problem is weird IE-specific
HTML.  I'm running Firefox 1.04.  When I hover over the 1st clip Down
from the mountain; the Carter family influence, the URL on the status
line shows as http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/carter_family/artist.jhtml#
which is *NOT* valid.  I have javascript enabled, and I do *NOT* have
popup-blocking activated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] WMP v.9 files

2005-06-07 Thread sIbOk
i get a message seying i do not have the corert player

2005/6/7, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 08:04:06PM -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote
  If anyone can play the videos at
 
  http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/carter_family/artist.jhtml
 
  I's appreciate hearing what player you used.  Thanks.
 
   I don't know if it's the player; maybe the problem is weird IE-specific
 HTML.  I'm running Firefox 1.04.  When I hover over the 1st clip Down
 from the mountain; the Carter family influence, the URL on the status
 line shows as http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/carter_family/artist.jhtml#
 which is *NOT* valid.  I have javascript enabled, and I do *NOT* have
 popup-blocking activated.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Turn off monitor

2005-06-07 Thread John J. Foster
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:31:59PM +0200, Peter De Zutter wrote:
 Hi John
 screensave on terminals
 
 setterm blank 0
 
 Greetz
 Peter
 
In KDE -- Control Center -- Peripherals -- Display
On the Power Control tab, set monitor to power off after 10 minutes, or
whatever. This is the behavior I want from a vc. Not just to blank.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Turn off monitor

2005-06-07 Thread Zac Medico


--- John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:31:59PM +0200, Peter De
 Zutter wrote:
  Hi John
  screensave on terminals
  
  setterm blank 0
  
  Greetz
  Peter
  
 In KDE -- Control Center -- Peripherals --
 Display
 On the Power Control tab, set monitor to power off
 after 10 minutes, or
 whatever. This is the behavior I want from a vc. Not
 just to blank.
 

Check the setterm manpage.  Looks like you want the
-powerdown option.  I guess you could do it in
~/.bashrc

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Re: [gentoo-user] esd or arts, sound daemon howto

2005-06-07 Thread Antonino Sabetta

Christoph Eckert wrote:
The currently best solution is to configure the DMIX plugin 
for ALSA (search alsa.opensrc.org for sharing) and run both 
arts and esound on top of it. This way, arts and esound aware 
applications can play sound *as well as* applications which 
can output sound directly to the hardware device.


This is all correct, but it should be noted that dmix does NOT
provide full-duplex capabilities: this means that you will probably
be able to listen to sounds coming from different sources (applications)
but you will not be able to do so while using skype, for example.
Afaik jack should enable this, but I have never tried it
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Re: [gentoo-user] esd or arts, sound daemon howto

2005-06-07 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi,


 This is all correct, but it should be noted that dmix does
 NOT provide full-duplex capabilities:

If your card is able to work in full duplex or not does not 
depend on ALSA but the hardware. Cheap AC '97 chips are able 
to work in full duplex mode.

 this means that you 
 will probably be able to listen to sounds coming from
 different sources (applications)

Yes, that's the work of DMIX if your card doesn't support 
hardwaremixing. DMIX does softwaremixing similar like a 
soundserver does.

 but you will not be able 
 to do so while using skype, for example.

You can use bidirectional audio regardless if DMIX is running 
or not. Furthermore, there's another ALSA plugin besides DMIX 
that shares audio input for multiple applications (I forgot 
the name, again search alsa.opensrc.org).

 Afaik jack 
 should enable this, but I have never tried it

JACK is a specialised soundserver for realtime audio stuff 
used by musicians (that's why I'm running JACK all the 
time ;) .

I doubt that Skype will ever be able to talk to JACK. What you 
plan to do is likely possible without JACK, but sound on 
Linux is still a complicated and difficult issue. Don't 
hesitate to ask me :) .


Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer

2005-06-07 Thread Shawn Singh
Mplayer seemed to get install when I installed Limewire.

On 6/7/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK what ebuild is it in?
 
 On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 10:44 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
  I am Refering to MPlayer a front end aplication.
 
  On 6/7/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 21:04 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
I recently emerged mplayer but it got all blue... I don't know if this
is right but it is almost impossible to see the buttons on it may I
done something wrong ??? can I do something now ???
   
PS. Any skin is blue too .
  
  
   mplayer does not have a skin. It is a command line program. you type
  
   mplayer moviefile.avi
  
   and it plays.
  
   Are you referring to gmplayer that is a gtk front end?
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[gentoo-user] xpdf bin does not exist

2005-06-07 Thread reg hughson
I have had xpdf installed for some time but haven't used it for a couple of 
weeks so don't really know which version caused me the problem...I now notice 
that the xpdf executable that used to be in /usr/bin no longer exists. 

I did a search through the forums and found that I wasn't alone. However, all 
of the solutions listed in the forums involved openmotif or the xprint use flag 
or both. I have followed all of their suggestions including re-emerging xorg, 
openmotif and xpdf in any number of combinations. The result is the sameno 
xpdf bin file. 

Any other suggestions would be appreciated. 

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[gentoo-user] Windowmaker Woes

2005-06-07 Thread dsoper
Hi all,

I've just set up a shiny new AMD64 box, and I can't get many apps
(mozilla, firefox, openoffice, wprefs, etc.) to run properly in
windowmaker.  Open Office crashes, I can't see the windows with mozilla
and firefox, and wprefs just dies without an error message.  And, of course, 
everything works fine in gnome and fluxbox.

Would anyone happen to know what might be going on?

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] esd or arts, sound daemon howto

2005-06-07 Thread Claudinei Matos
On 6/7/05, Christoph Eckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 
  This is all correct, but it should be noted that dmix does
  NOT provide full-duplex capabilities:
 
 If your card is able to work in full duplex or not does not
 depend on ALSA but the hardware. Cheap AC '97 chips are able
 to work in full duplex mode.
 
  this means that you
  will probably be able to listen to sounds coming from
  different sources (applications)
 
 Yes, that's the work of DMIX if your card doesn't support
 hardwaremixing. DMIX does softwaremixing similar like a
 soundserver does.
 
  but you will not be able
  to do so while using skype, for example.
 
 You can use bidirectional audio regardless if DMIX is running
 or not. Furthermore, there's another ALSA plugin besides DMIX
 that shares audio input for multiple applications (I forgot
 the name, again search alsa.opensrc.org).
 
  Afaik jack
  should enable this, but I have never tried it
 
 JACK is a specialised soundserver for realtime audio stuff
 used by musicians (that's why I'm running JACK all the
 time ;) .
 

Christoph,

Here at home I have a Creative Audigy which one I guess have
hardwaremixing capability but at my job I have a nForce2 based onboard
soundcard which one I'm not sure if have hardwaremixing.
I did a test killing all process of esd and arts and trying to play
more than one instance of music playing and that's works very well
with Audigy but don't with nForce2 onboard audio.
An other thing that I've noticed is that skype just work without arts
or esd, so I've to run skype oss to be able to use it (at my home
machine, since I don't use skype at job yet).
I think that at home I do not need any of this daemons but at my job I
will give dmix a try, so I have to ask you if even with dmix I'll need
to use arts and/or esd?

Tks in advice.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer

2005-06-07 Thread Claudinei Matos
On 6/7/05, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Strange I am using alsa flag and same version  maybe could be
 something with my video configuration.
 
 On 6/7/05, Claudinei Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 6/6/05, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I recently emerged mplayer but it got all blue... I don't know if this
   is right but it is almost impossible to see the buttons on it may I
   done something wrong ??? can I do something now ???
  
   PS. Any skin is blue too .
   --

did you tried to use another video output plugin?
$mplayer -vo help
try to jump between the supported plugins, maybe it could be a problem
with a specific plugin?
exec mplayer from a xterm wildow could give you some information about
the problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?

2005-06-07 Thread Nick Rout
in the config file you can add parameters to the dhcp program, -d prints info 
about the connection.


On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:17:56 +0200
Claus Ladekjær Wilson wrote:

 
 Problem is, that another version of gentoo (1.4) connects immediately where 
 as 
 my present version takes about one minute. So I really miss to know what is 
 wrong about my configuration! Hope somebody could give an advice!
 
 
 
 Tirsdag den 7. juni 2005 19:29 skrev Jean Magnan de Bornier:
  Le 07 juin à 17:26:48 Claus Ladekjær Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit 
 notamment:
   I run an ADSL-connection to connect to the internet and my ISP runs dhcp.
   It works but it takes about one minute to get my ip-address.
   Could I possibly see somewhere why it takes that long?
   I use /etc/init.d/eth.net start to connect.
   Is there another way?
 
  You might start it at boot with rc-update add net.eth0 default
 
   Do I miss some configuration or is it normal to need waiting 1 minute for
   an ip-address?
 
  [...]
 
  It certainly is longer than usual, but maybe it is due to your provider
  hth,
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-07 Thread maxim wexler



 
 There be a '.' (or './', if you like) at the end of
 that, and yes, you
 should still be inside the cdboot directory.
 
 cd cdboot
 mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \
 -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \
 -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 \
 -boot-info-table ./


Here's 5 different attempts and their results:

livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b
cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit
o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
mkisofs: Missing pathspec.
Usage: mkisofs [options] file...

Use mkisofs -help
to get a list of valid options.

livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b
cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit
o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table .
mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image
'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' !

livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b
cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit
o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
./
mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image
'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' !

livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b
cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit
o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table '.'
mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image
'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' !

livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b
cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit
o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
'./'
mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image
'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' !


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[gentoo-user] Bad thing? bug?

2005-06-07 Thread Jonathan Nichols

QA Notice: ECLASS 'libtool' inherited illegally in dev-php/php-4.3.11

... just noticed that this evening.

I didn't see a forum post nor a bug report.. is it something to even be 
concerned with? So far, it's compiling fine, but I thought someone might 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?

2005-06-07 Thread Ramón Gutiérrez
if u dont want to waste 1min trying to get dhcp ip put dhcpd=-t 10(something in that file)in your /ect/conf.d/net
On 6/7/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
in the config file you can add parameters to the dhcp program, -d prints info about the connection.
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:17:56 +0200Claus Ladekjær Wilson wrote: Problem is, that another version of gentoo (1.4) connects immediately where as my present version takes about one minute. So I really miss to know what is
 wrong about my configuration! Hope somebody could give an advice! Tirsdag den 7. juni 2005 19:29 skrev Jean Magnan de Bornier:  Le 07 juin à 17:26:48 Claus Ladekjær Wilson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment:   I run an ADSL-connection to connect to the internet and my ISP runs dhcp.   It works but it takes about one minute to get my ip-address.
   Could I possibly see somewhere why it takes that long?   I use /etc/init.d/eth.net start to connect.   Is there another way?   You might start it at boot with rc-update add 
net.eth0 defaultDo I miss some configuration or is it normal to need waiting 1 minute for   an ip-address?   [...]   It certainly is longer than usual, but maybe it is due to your provider
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Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices

2005-06-07 Thread Norberto Bensa
Uwe Thiem wrote:
 Hi folks,

 my konqueror does not support the protocol devices. Which library am I
 missing?


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Re: [gentoo-user] busybox

2005-06-07 Thread Norberto Bensa
Peter Gai wrote:
 busybox replaced sash in the profile, there was a thread on it a few
 days ago, check the archives... after you emerge busybox, emerge
 --depclean will unmerge sash.

What is not mentioned is the motivation to replace sash with busybox. So my 
question is: why?

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[gentoo-user] Port 512/Comsat and Sendmail or Fetchmail hangs

2005-06-07 Thread Ow Mun Heng
I'm not sure if this has been happening all the while because I just
noticed it this morning as I was popping my emails (via fetchmail).

The process would hang at at the input of each mail for a short (but
very noticable) period while it tries to connect to port
512/comsat. /etc/services states that this port is for new-mail
notification (biff).

I don't have biff enabled and thus I wonder what/why is it that it's
trying to contact it. I'm not even sure if it's a fetchmail issue or
it's a sendmail issue.

Does anyone know?


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Ut2004 and language patch

2005-06-07 Thread Bob Sanders
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:40:21 +0200
Luigi Pinna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I want to use ut2004 with different languages: I bought the Us version, 
 but I'd like to listen the voice in italian or in german... Is there a 
 patch that change the language? (Of course I must installed the 
 voice...).
 Sometimes ago I saw the multilanguages UT CDs, and I want to try that 
 without to buy the game another time. Is it possible?

Probably best to ask on the UT2004 mailing list after checking the
Gamer's FAQ.

FAQ - http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/

Pointer to the mailing list -

http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/#ut2k3ml

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Re: [gentoo-user] BootSplash

2005-06-07 Thread Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
As far as I know, if you can get vesa frame buffer on your machine, it
should work.

2005/6/8, Ramón Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 is there a way to get gensplash to work in a laptop? 
 i got a toshiba a75 but it seems to have some problems with gensplash or
 bootplash, error 22 or something like that, i used genkernel btw. 
 tried manual compilation of kernel (used gentoo-wiki) and nothing.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?

2005-06-07 Thread Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
Sorry to disagree. I think if he follows what you proposed, it might
break the package. He could, however, unmerge the package and install
directly from sources a version that he knows for sure doesn't lag
this much.

Just my opinion...

2005/6/7, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
 --- Claus Ladekjær Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Problem is, that another version of gentoo (1.4)
  connects immediately where as
  my present version takes about one minute. So I
  really miss to know what is
  wrong about my configuration! Hope somebody could
  give an advice!
 
 
 /sbin/dhcpcd is the client program.  Maybe you can
 copy it from the other box just to see if there is a
 difference.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Port 512/Comsat and Sendmail or Fetchmail hangs

2005-06-07 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

 I'm not sure if this has been happening all the while because I just
 noticed it this morning as I was popping my emails (via fetchmail).

 The process would hang at at the input of each mail for a short (but
 very noticable) period while it tries to connect to port
 512/comsat. /etc/services states that this port is for new-mail
 notification (biff).

 I don't have biff enabled and thus I wonder what/why is it that it's
 trying to contact it. I'm not even sure if it's a fetchmail issue or
 it's a sendmail issue.

 Does anyone know?

The first link might (just maybe) have some useful info:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safarirls=enq=fetchmail+port+512+comsatie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8


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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad thing? bug?

2005-06-07 Thread Sami Samhuri
* On Tue Jun-07-2005 at 07:22:53 PM -0700, Jonathan Nichols said:
 QA Notice: ECLASS 'libtool' inherited illegally in dev-php/php-4.3.11
 
 ... just noticed that this evening.
 
 I didn't see a forum post nor a bug report.. is it something to even be 
 concerned with? So far, it's compiling fine, but I thought someone might 
 be interested. ;)

These are notices portage spits out to inform devs about things that
need fixing in their ebuilds. There should be no problems with the
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Re: [gentoo-user] BootSplash

2005-06-07 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
guys I had installed splashutils and I confess I am totally lost :( .
where can I find information about it ?

On 6/7/05, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thank you guys, I didn't know that it was a newer version. I will try
 it later . Thanks
 
 On 6/7/05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 08:41 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
   On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 11:36:59 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
  
Is Bootsplash = fbsplash. ??
  
   No. fbsplash is for later kernels. Bootsplash stopped working at about
   2.6.7. See http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/gensplash/
 
  Well as i see it, bootsplash was cause it needed to be patched at every
  instance.
 
I do know that the gentoo version is called gensplash.
  
   Gensplash is the collection of fbsplash, splashutils and other utilities.
 
  yep. I know that.. I'm using Gensplash right now. (just had to make
  sure)
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] xpdf bin does not exist

2005-06-07 Thread Zac Medico


--- reg hughson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have had xpdf installed for some time but haven't
 used it for a couple of weeks so don't really know
 which version caused me the problem...I now notice
 that the xpdf executable that used to be in /usr/bin
 no longer exists. 
 
 I did a search through the forums and found that I
 wasn't alone. However, all of the solutions listed
 in the forums involved openmotif or the xprint use
 flag or both. I have followed all of their
 suggestions including re-emerging xorg, openmotif
 and xpdf in any number of combinations. The result
 is the sameno xpdf bin file. 
 
 Any other suggestions would be appreciated. 
 

Hi reg,

You need to run motif-config before you merge xpdf
with USE=-nomotif.  You can use either openmotif or
lesstif and this is how you choose.

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Re: [gentoo-user] BootSplash

2005-06-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/7/05, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 guys I had installed splashutils and I confess I am totally lost :( .
 where can I find information about it ?

Possibly here?

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash

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Re: [gentoo-user] busybox

2005-06-07 Thread Zac Medico
Norberto Bensa wrote:
 
 What is not mentioned is the motivation to replace
sash 
 with busybox. So my question is: why?

I don't know about sash but busybox is very very cool.
 It's a complete userland in one executable!  Check it
out: http://busybox.net

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?

2005-06-07 Thread Zac Medico


--- Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry to disagree. I think if he follows what you
 proposed, it might
 break the package. He could, however, unmerge the
 package and install
 directly from sources a version that he knows for
 sure doesn't lag
 this much.
 

Agreed. ;-)

The worst case scenario is that he couldn't use that
binary and he'd have to get another.

ldd /sbin/dhcpcd
linux-gate.so.1 =  (0xe000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7eb4000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fec000)

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[gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc

2005-06-07 Thread Pingveno
I'm running two computers in my house, one 550 MHz Pentium 3 and one 3
GHz Pentium 4. The slow one is running Gentoo Linux, while the fast one
is running Windows. I'd like to put together a LiveCD that can run
distcc on the faster computer just via a reboot.
There's a Knoppix mod with distcc, but apparently there are problems
because of the version of gcc that Debian uses. Gentoo has some extra
patches for better security, which can conflict with the Debian version
of gcc.

Is there a way I can build a CD with a Gentoo-compatible version of distcc?

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-07 Thread Zac Medico


--- maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
  
  There be a '.' (or './', if you like) at the end
 of
  that, and yes, you
  should still be inside the cdboot directory.
  
  cd cdboot
  mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \
  -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \
  -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 \
  -boot-info-table ./
 
 
 Here's 5 different attempts and their results:
 
 livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b
 cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit
 o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
 mkisofs: Missing pathspec.
 Usage: mkisofs [options] file...
 
 Use mkisofs -help
 to get a list of valid options.
 
 livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b
 cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit
 o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table .
 mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image
 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' !
 
 livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b
 cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit
 o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
 ./
 mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image
 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' !
 
 livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b
 cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit
 o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
 '.'
 mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image
 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' !
 
 livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b
 cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit
 o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
 './'
 mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image
 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' !
 

It looks like your current working directory is
cdboot.  In that case the relative path to the boot
image would be boot/grub/stage2_eltorito (not
cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito).

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Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc

2005-06-07 Thread Martins Steinbergs
try to search portage for 'livecd', some tools are there

Pingveno wrote:

I'm running two computers in my house, one 550 MHz Pentium 3 and one 3
GHz Pentium 4. The slow one is running Gentoo Linux, while the fast one
is running Windows. I'd like to put together a LiveCD that can run
distcc on the faster computer just via a reboot.
There's a Knoppix mod with distcc, but apparently there are problems
because of the version of gcc that Debian uses. Gentoo has some extra
patches for better security, which can conflict with the Debian version
of gcc.

Is there a way I can build a CD with a Gentoo-compatible version of distcc?

  


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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Fish
maxim wexler wrote:

There be a '.' (or './', if you like) at the end of
that, and yes, you
should still be inside the cdboot directory.

cd cdboot
mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \
-b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \
-no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 \
-boot-info-table ./




Here's 5 different attempts and their results:

livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b
cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit
o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table
mkisofs: Missing pathspec.
Usage: mkisofs [options] file...

Use mkisofs -help
to get a list of valid options.

livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b
cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit
o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table .
mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image
'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' !
  


That should be -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito...so take the 'cdboot' off
the front of that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] esd or arts, sound daemon howto

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Fish
Christoph Eckert wrote:

Hi,
  

Afaik jack 
should enable this, but I have never tried it



JACK is a specialised soundserver for realtime audio stuff 
used by musicians (that's why I'm running JACK all the 
time ;) .

I doubt that Skype will ever be able to talk to JACK. What you 
plan to do is likely possible without JACK, but sound on 
Linux is still a complicated and difficult issue. Don't 
hesitate to ask me :) .
  


There is an alsa plugin to allow any native alsa application to connect
through the jack server.  Unfortunately I've never been able to get
acceptable sound quality using it this way

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Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc

2005-06-07 Thread Zac Medico


--- Pingveno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm running two computers in my house, one 550 MHz
 Pentium 3 and one 3
 GHz Pentium 4. The slow one is running Gentoo Linux,
 while the fast one
 is running Windows. I'd like to put together a
 LiveCD that can run
 distcc on the faster computer just via a reboot.
 There's a Knoppix mod with distcc, but apparently
 there are problems
 because of the version of gcc that Debian uses.
 Gentoo has some extra
 patches for better security, which can conflict with
 the Debian version
 of gcc.
 
 Is there a way I can build a CD with a
 Gentoo-compatible version of distcc?
 

Hi Pingveno,

Yes.  An alternative would be to to run your distcc
node as a diskless node.  I have my system set up so
that my diskless node shares all the same root fs as
the server except for var and etc.  That way the
diskless node always have the same versions of
everything.

If you want you can also leave windows running if you
run your distcc node on a colinux kernel.

So which will it be, livecd or diskless node?  You can
use catalyst to build a livecd (that's how the
official installation cds are built).  I prefer to
build livecds by hand.  For both my diskless node and
livecds I use a genkernel initrd that is patched to
use unionfs for copy on write functionality.

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Re: [gentoo-user] busybox

2005-06-07 Thread Sami Samhuri
* On Tue Jun-07-2005 at 08:34:32 AM -0300, Norberto Bensa said:
[...]
 What is not mentioned is the motivation to replace sash with busybox. So my 
 question is: why?

On 2005-06-04 14:12:21 GMT Jason Stubbs wrote:
 I believe it's been added to system in place of sash. It's similarly
 very small in size but has a much larger feature set that is generally
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Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc/Live CD's are Wonderfull

2005-06-07 Thread Rob

At 10:14 PM 6/7/2005, you wrote:



--- Pingveno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm running two computers in my house, one 550 MHz
 Pentium 3 and one 3
 GHz Pentium 4. The slow one is running Gentoo Linux,
 while the fast one
 is running Windows. I'd like to put together a
 LiveCD that can run
 distcc on the faster computer just via a reboot.
 There's a Knoppix mod with distcc, but apparently
 there are problems
 because of the version of gcc that Debian uses.
 Gentoo has some extra
 patches for better security, which can conflict with
 the Debian version
 of gcc.

 Is there a way I can build a CD with a
 Gentoo-compatible version of distcc?


Hi Pingveno,

Yes.  An alternative would be to to run your distcc
node as a diskless node.  I have my system set up so
that my diskless node shares all the same root fs as
the server except for var and etc.  That way the
diskless node always have the same versions of
everything.

If you want you can also leave windows running if you
run your distcc node on a colinux kernel.

So which will it be, livecd or diskless node?  You can
use catalyst to build a livecd (that's how the
official installation cds are built).  I prefer to
build livecds by hand.  For both my diskless node and
livecds I use a genkernel initrd that is patched to
use unionfs for copy on write functionality.

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Hi all,

I am slowly but surely rescuing my Gentoo System with the latest Live 
CD.  It is truly a miracle to have this tool, but you need to take some 
time experimenting with how to use it,   For example, mounting boot and 
root partitions and the proc system.  I will soon have my system up and 
running but I had to go in and remove the * from my passwd file using vipw 
so that I could get into the new system.  I am still getting messages of 
segmentation fault after I perform certain operations.  I am not sure 
what is causing that, but the cure is to re untar the stage-3 tarball onto 
my Gentoo partition.  Anyway I lost my Grub disk, so I am taking a vacation 
until I find it.  I am a disabled hacker who has no short term memory, so 
whenever I lose something, I have to take on an orthagonal persuit, haha.


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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-07 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 08:45 -0700, Grant wrote:
  I don't think so, Gentoo (at least as far as I know) is minimalist and
  provides you with choices. Making it all automagic seems cool to the
  average user that don't have time, patience or will to know what's
  happening in the system, but making it default would take the freedom
  of people that want to dive deep into the config files and dev files
  to get the most of the hardware and take control of the system. Of
  course its a good idea for people to taste Linux and maybe make them
  curious about knowing more of the system to take advantage of all the
  hardware upgrades.
  
  I think that stuff that does magic tricks in the computer software
  world gets bigger, buggy, unstable and slower as time passes and more
  tricks are added, and then you think of... Micro$oft and Ruindow$. I
  sincerely hope it never happens to any Lin distro.

  --
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 But don't you think the computer systems of the future would surely
 implement something like Gentopia?  Things can always be done
 manually, but automatic seems like a step forward.  On the other hand,
 I do agree with the things you're saying.  This is why I asked the
 question.  I'm not sure about this.
 

To me, it's not a focus on gentopia. Gentopia is Gentoo's version of the
project utopia stack (which is more GNOME specific).

for example, gamin is the successor to famd which works more efficiently
based on inotify.

gnome-volume-manager for example works with gamin + udev + hal + dbus to
make all the necessary messages to make things smooth much like a Mac
right now.

I don't think gentopia will be default for gentoo, but I do think it
will be for Gnome.

To me, gentoo isn't really for the masses, for those we have
Ubuntu/Knoppix/Fedora.

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Re: [gentoo-user] LiveCD distcc/Live CD's are Wonderfull

2005-06-07 Thread Zac Medico


--- Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 I am slowly but surely rescuing my Gentoo System
 with the latest Live 
 CD.  It is truly a miracle to have this tool, but
 you need to take some 
 time experimenting with how to use it,   For
 example, mounting boot and 
 root partitions and the proc system.  I will soon
 have my system up and 
 running but I had to go in and remove the * from my
 passwd file using vipw 
 so that I could get into the new system.  I am still
 getting messages of 
 segmentation fault after I perform certain
 operations.  I am not sure 
 what is causing that, but the cure is to re untar
 the stage-3 tarball onto 
 my Gentoo partition.  Anyway I lost my Grub disk, so
 I am taking a vacation 
 until I find it.  I am a disabled hacker who has no
 short term memory, so 
 whenever I lose something, I have to take on an
 orthagonal persuit, haha.
 
 God Bless,
 
 Rob. 

Are you serious about not having short term memory? 
That must be difficult.

Bless you too,

Zac



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