Re: [gentoo-user] best practise for 4 disks ... redundancy

2015-03-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
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On 11.03.2015 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote:

 Then I spent some hours fiddling with grub2, gummiboot et al to
 get that box booting up fine. dracut doesn't assemble the
 rootfs-raid etc etc ... - fun
 
 I found this with a LUKS root filesystem, dracut doesn't
 automatically detect such devices any more, so speed up the boot.
 You need to specify rd.auto or rd.mdraid to force it.

I think, both ... I will have a look next time.

 I generally set up boot on a RAID1 across all disks. You can still 
 access individual disks in a RAID1 array, so you can set your
 computer to boot from sda1 then sda2 etc but mount /boot on the
 array, so all updates are pushed to all four disks.

So RAID1 with vfat as ESP ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] best practise for 4 disks ... redundancy

2015-03-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:52:27 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

  I generally set up boot on a RAID1 across all disks. You can still 
  access individual disks in a RAID1 array, so you can set your
  computer to boot from sda1 then sda2 etc but mount /boot on the
  array, so all updates are pushed to all four disks.  

That should have read sda1 then sdb1.
 
 So RAID1 with vfat as ESP ?

That's how I'd do it. I have /boot on RAID1 on this box (but not as FAT
and it's a BIOS motherboard) with everything else on a btrfs RAID and it
works well.


-- 
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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:27 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:

 Did you hear about CLI wi-fi tool iw? I am testing it right now,
 but seem cannot figure out how to use it

iw is OK to set up an unencrypted or wep connection but you need
wpa_supplicant for a wpa connection; and you need either ip or a dhcp
client for the actual ip setup.



Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager emerged, system unstable

2015-03-11 Thread German
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:25:00 -0400
Josh Lemerand emptykathar...@gmail.com wrote:

  nmcli dev wifi con Cafe Hotspot 1 password caffeine name My cafe
 
 creates a new connection named My cafe and thenconnects it to Cafe
 Hotspot 1 SSID using password caffeine. This is mainly useful when
 connecting to Cafe Hotspot 1 for the first time. Next time, it is
 better to use 'nmcli con up id My cafe' so that the existing
 connection profile can be used and no additional is created.

Thanks. Are there any ways to scan for available wi-fi hotspots in nmcli?

 
 from the nmcli man page.
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:40 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  So yes, I did install networkmanager, however for some reason after
  emerging it, I got the problems:
  Console cursor can not blink, keyboard input is unstable, sometimes cursor
  is stuck, sometimes it gets delays in ouput. Something broke my system.
  Does anyone have a clue what is going on? Also, while I am considering
  installing wicd ncurses, does anyone use CLI wifi tool iw? I can connect
  to network with cable attached, however there is no connection when I try
  to use wifi module. How networkmanager can be configured to use wi-fi?
  Thanks
 
  --
  German gentger...@gmail.com
 
 


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager emerged, system unstable

2015-03-11 Thread Josh Lemerand
 nmcli dev wifi con Cafe Hotspot 1 password caffeine name My cafe

creates a new connection named My cafe and thenconnects it to Cafe
Hotspot 1 SSID using password caffeine. This is mainly useful when
connecting to Cafe Hotspot 1 for the first time. Next time, it is
better to use 'nmcli con up id My cafe' so that the existing
connection profile can be used and no additional is created.

from the nmcli man page.


On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:40 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:

 So yes, I did install networkmanager, however for some reason after
 emerging it, I got the problems:
 Console cursor can not blink, keyboard input is unstable, sometimes cursor
 is stuck, sometimes it gets delays in ouput. Something broke my system.
 Does anyone have a clue what is going on? Also, while I am considering
 installing wicd ncurses, does anyone use CLI wifi tool iw? I can connect
 to network with cable attached, however there is no connection when I try
 to use wifi module. How networkmanager can be configured to use wi-fi?
 Thanks

 --
 German gentger...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager emerged, system unstable

2015-03-11 Thread Josh Lemerand
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 4:43 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:25:00 -0400
 Josh Lemerand emptykathar...@gmail.com wrote:

   nmcli dev wifi con Cafe Hotspot 1 password caffeine name My cafe
 
  creates a new connection named My cafe and thenconnects it to Cafe
  Hotspot 1 SSID using password caffeine. This is mainly useful when
  connecting to Cafe Hotspot 1 for the first time. Next time, it is
  better to use 'nmcli con up id My cafe' so that the existing
  connection profile can be used and no additional is created.

 Thanks. Are there any ways to scan for available wi-fi hotspots in nmcli?

 
  from the nmcli man page.
 
 
  On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:40 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   So yes, I did install networkmanager, however for some reason after
   emerging it, I got the problems:
   Console cursor can not blink, keyboard input is unstable, sometimes
 cursor
   is stuck, sometimes it gets delays in ouput. Something broke my system.
   Does anyone have a clue what is going on? Also, while I am considering
   installing wicd ncurses, does anyone use CLI wifi tool iw? I can
 connect
   to network with cable attached, however there is no connection when I
 try
   to use wifi module. How networkmanager can be configured to use wi-fi?
   Thanks
  
   --
   German gentger...@gmail.com
  
  


 --
 German gentger...@gmail.com


nmcli dev wifi list

should list the networks out there


Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:15:53 PM Tom H wrote:
 I've never used nmcli except to get ip information (see below) but
 setting up NM without a gui is simple.
 
 This is my home wifi setup:
 
 # cat /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/thsky
 [connection]
 id=thsky
 uuid=e03d75e4-043a-4276-bf03-3995270ec891
 type=802-11-wireless
 
 [802-11-wireless]
 ssid=myssidname
 mode=infrastructure
 security=802-11-wireless-security
 
 [802-11-wireless-security]
 key-mgmt=wpa-psk
 psk=myssidpassword
 
 [ipv4]
 method=manual
 address1=192.168.1.11/24,192.168.1.1
 dns=192.168.1.111
 
 [ipv6]
 method=link-local

Did you find that documented somewhere or did you use an UI to create the file 
originally? What about when you need one of the many features that this simple 
example doesn't cover (like permissions)? what is the guid? It is hard.
 
When I started using NetworkManager I had hell trying to modify that file 
manually because plasma-nm ask for root password when modifying system wide 
connections but it doesn't save the changes (the solution was to run nm-
connection-editor manually as root). The same applies to nmtui and it only 
covers a few options. I don't remember exactly what needed to be changed in 
the file but it wasn't intuitive.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Jc García
2015-03-11 7:16 GMT-06:00 German gentger...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:38:08 +
 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 08:14:13 -0400, German wrote:

eix-e: command not found. What to do?
  
   Insert a space between eix and -e.
  
 
  Same result - command not found

 emerge eix, then run eix-update as root.

 Ok, done that. Indeed there are anything related to x11-lib, but when I do 
 emerge --ask net-misc/networkmanager I see x11-proto and x11-libs to be 
 emerged. Use variable is set to -X. Anyone can shed a light on this? How 
 can I emerge networkmanager without X dependencies? Thanks so much

If you want an easy way of configuring wirless without GUI use wicd
and the wicd curses client(enabled via USE flag), NetworkManager is
simpler to use with a GUI, the CLI client is not so easy to use, but
if you want to, make sure none of the GUI related use flags are set
e.g. gtk qt X emerge it, and then read and search info(man, google)
about nmcli.



Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Jc García
2015-03-11 12:35 GMT-06:00 Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com:

  search info(man, google) about nmcli.
also nmtui, it seems easier to use, I hadn't looked at the list of
NetworkManager tools in a while, but still the wicd cli interface is
easier from what I remember.



Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread German
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:35:26 -0600
Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com wrote:

 2015-03-11 7:16 GMT-06:00 German gentger...@gmail.com:
  On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:38:08 +
  Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 
  On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 08:14:13 -0400, German wrote:
 
 eix-e: command not found. What to do?
   
Insert a space between eix and -e.
   
  
   Same result - command not found
 
  emerge eix, then run eix-update as root.
 
  Ok, done that. Indeed there are anything related to x11-lib, but when I do 
  emerge --ask net-misc/networkmanager I see x11-proto and x11-libs to be 
  emerged. Use variable is set to -X. Anyone can shed a light on this? How 
  can I emerge networkmanager without X dependencies? Thanks so much
 
 If you want an easy way of configuring wirless without GUI use wicd
 and the wicd curses client(enabled via USE flag), NetworkManager is
 simpler to use with a GUI, the CLI client is not so easy to use, but
 if you want to, make sure none of the GUI related use flags are set
 e.g. gtk qt X emerge it, and then read and search info(man, google)
 about nmcli.

Did you hear about CLI wi-fi tool iw? I am testing it right now, but seem 
cannot figure out how to use it
 


-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-11 Thread wabenbau
Am Dienstag, 10.03.2015 um 18:10
schrieb Justin Findlay jfind...@gmail.com:

 On 03/10/2015 01:35 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote:
  Most modems and routers have really bad DNS proxies. I tend to
  either run my own or use Googles DNS: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 
  
  I don't like the idea that google is getting all information about
  my DNS queries. ;-) 
 
 If you need a temporary public resolver and you don't want to send
 more info to google, you can use these public resolvers from Level 3:
 
 4.2.2.1
 4.2.2.2
 4.2.2.3
 4.2.2.4
 
 You should normally use and know the DNS servers provided by the most
 local networks you're in.  If any of these are untrustworthy or
 problematic, 4.2.2.2 should work well enough to get online to sort it
 out.
 
 Here is an interesting intro to the subject (be sure to also read the
 comments):
 
 http://www.circleid.com/posts/20110407_top_public_dns_resolvers_compared/
 
 
 Justin

THX for the info. I will take a look at it.

--
Regards
wabe



Re: [gentoo-user] best practise for 4 disks ... redundancy

2015-03-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 23:14:49 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

 Am 11.03.2015 um 17:06 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
 
  So RAID1 with vfat as ESP ?  
  
  That's how I'd do it. I have /boot on RAID1 on this box (but not as
  FAT and it's a BIOS motherboard) with everything else on a btrfs
  RAID and it works well.  
 
 I will redo my setup tomorrow ... thanks
 So your suggestion is with MBR and not GPT?

Absolutely not! MBR is fragile, limited and horrible. I use GPT but not
UEFI because this is a pre-UEFI motherboard.

 I still wonder if to do UEFI and GPT because both are the more modern
 ways of doing things (and be prepared for future developments) or just
 stay with BIOS and MBR as long as I don't need it (with disks smaller
 than 2 TB etc)

Given the choice, I'd use GPT for the above reasons and UEFI because
Gummiboot is nicer than GRUB.


-- 
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During a raid on a local chemist's shop, 2000 Viagra tablets were stolen
Police are looking for hardened criminals!


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Re: [gentoo-user] best practise for 4 disks ... redundancy

2015-03-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
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Am 11.03.2015 um 17:06 schrieb Neil Bothwick:

 So RAID1 with vfat as ESP ?
 
 That's how I'd do it. I have /boot on RAID1 on this box (but not as
 FAT and it's a BIOS motherboard) with everything else on a btrfs
 RAID and it works well.

I will redo my setup tomorrow ... thanks
So your suggestion is with MBR and not GPT?

I still wonder if to do UEFI and GPT because both are the more modern
ways of doing things (and be prepared for future developments) or just
stay with BIOS and MBR as long as I don't need it (with disks smaller
than 2 TB etc)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't fetch www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins

2015-03-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 10 Mar 2015 23:33:33 Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
 On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:19:34 PM Mick wrote:
  On Tuesday 10 Mar 2015 22:45:28 Dale wrote:
   Mick wrote:
This is the second machine I am getting a 404 in as many weeks with
this package.  Is it a known problem, or am I the only one suffering
from this?

Emerging (1 of 8) www-plugins/chrome-binary-

plugins-41.0.2272.76_p1::gentoo

 * Fetching files in the background. To view fetch progress, run
 * `tail -f /var/log/emerge-fetch.log` in another terminal.
 
Downloading
   
   'https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stabl
   e/go ogle-chrome-stable_41.0.2272.76-1_amd64.deb'
   
--2015-03-10 22:02:09--
   
   https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable
   /goo gle-chrome-stable_41.0.2272.76-1_amd64.deb
   
Resolving dl.google.com... 216.58.210.46, 2a00:1450:4009:800::200e
Connecting to dl.google.com|216.58.210.46|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2015-03-10 22:02:09 ERROR 404: Not Found.

!!! Couldn't download
'google-chrome-stable_41.0.2272.76-1_amd64.deb'. Aborting.

 * Fetch failed for
   
   'www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins-41.0.2272.76_p1', Log
   
file:
 *  '/var/tmp/portage/www-plugins/chrome-binary-

plugins-41.0.2272.76_p1/temp/build.log'

 * Please wait 24 hours and sync your portage tree before reporting
 
 fetch
 
failures.
   
   I don't use the package but tried to fetch it to test.  Same failure
   here too.   Can you force it to use a different mirror or is it
   google's and that's it?
   
   Dale
   
   :-)  :-)
  
  Thanks Dale, I'm guessing google is the only repo, at least that's the
 
 SRC_URI
 
  coded in the ebuild.
 
 Google only keeps the latest versions so that ebuild is usually only good
 for a short while after it gets marked stable.
 Just keyword the unstable package.

So users of the stable package have to be really fast, or lucky?

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't fetch www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins

2015-03-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Mar 2015 06:42:35 Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
 On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:20:25 AM Mick wrote:
  On Tuesday 10 Mar 2015 23:33:33 Fernando Rodriguez wrote:

   Google only keeps the latest versions so that ebuild is usually only
   good for a short while after it gets marked stable.
   Just keyword the unstable package.
  
  So users of the stable package have to be really fast, or lucky?
 
 Right. Or put emerge www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins --fetchonly on a
 cron job to fetch it as soon as it's stable.

I googled for it and downloaded it from a mirror.  Am I correct that if the 
hash is not right the ebuild will complain about it, or will I end up 
installing a suspect package?

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-03-11 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, March 08, 2015 11:11:49 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
  On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:51:38 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Are the ownership and mode of
e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.1-gentoo.conf the same as the
two others (although I'd assume that it wouldn't matter) and is it
formatted correctly?
   
   The /boot partition in UEFI systems needs to be vfat. Permissions are
   not gonna matter that much in that.
  
  But filename lengths may do. What is the maximum length for FAT32? Is it
  possible both files are considered the same?
 
 In that case, it would not work in my case, and it does (see my last
  reply). Besides, it has been working with those filenames for months now.
 
 FAT32 supports (IIRC) 256 long filenames.

Canek,

I don't see these long filenames in your filetree-listing.
You have a directory with the UUID, but then just the kernel-version numbers.

Or am I looking at the wrong email?

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

2015-03-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:11 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
[...]
 Canek,

 I don't see these long filenames in your filetree-listing.
 You have a directory with the UUID, but then just the kernel-version
numbers.

 Or am I looking at the wrong email?

You are:

# tree -l /boot/loader/
/boot/loader/
├── entries
│   ├── db93dd0e1382198eb26650c05430b171-3.18.9.conf
│   ├── db93dd0e1382198eb26650c05430b171-3.19.0.conf
│   └── db93dd0e1382198eb26650c05430b171-3.19.1.conf
├── gentoo.bmp
└── loader.conf

1 directory, 5 files

# tree -l /boot/db93dd0e1382198eb26650c05430b171/
/boot/db93dd0e1382198eb26650c05430b171/
├── 3.18.9
│   ├── initrd
│   └── kernel
├── 3.19.0
│   ├── initrd
│   └── kernel
└── 3.19.1
├── initrd
└── kernel

Here it works. What's more, Stefan said it worked in another machine of
his. Seems like a heisenbug.

Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México


Re: [gentoo-user] Can't fetch www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins

2015-03-11 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:20:25 AM Mick wrote:
 On Tuesday 10 Mar 2015 23:33:33 Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
  On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:19:34 PM Mick wrote:
   On Tuesday 10 Mar 2015 22:45:28 Dale wrote:
Mick wrote:
 This is the second machine I am getting a 404 in as many weeks with
 this package.  Is it a known problem, or am I the only one suffering
 from this?
 
 Emerging (1 of 8) www-plugins/chrome-binary-
 
 plugins-41.0.2272.76_p1::gentoo
 
  * Fetching files in the background. To view fetch progress, run
  * `tail -f /var/log/emerge-fetch.log` in another terminal.
  
 Downloading

'https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stabl
e/go ogle-chrome-stable_41.0.2272.76-1_amd64.deb'

 --2015-03-10 22:02:09--

https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable
/goo gle-chrome-stable_41.0.2272.76-1_amd64.deb

 Resolving dl.google.com... 216.58.210.46, 2a00:1450:4009:800::200e
 Connecting to dl.google.com|216.58.210.46|:443... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
 2015-03-10 22:02:09 ERROR 404: Not Found.
 
 !!! Couldn't download
 'google-chrome-stable_41.0.2272.76-1_amd64.deb'. Aborting.
 
  * Fetch failed for

'www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins-41.0.2272.76_p1', Log

 file:
  *  '/var/tmp/portage/www-plugins/chrome-binary-
 
 plugins-41.0.2272.76_p1/temp/build.log'
 
  * Please wait 24 hours and sync your portage tree before reporting
  
  fetch
  
 failures.

I don't use the package but tried to fetch it to test.  Same failure
here too.   Can you force it to use a different mirror or is it
google's and that's it?

Dale

:-)  :-)
   
   Thanks Dale, I'm guessing google is the only repo, at least that's the
  
  SRC_URI
  
   coded in the ebuild.
  
  Google only keeps the latest versions so that ebuild is usually only good
  for a short while after it gets marked stable.
  Just keyword the unstable package.
 
 So users of the stable package have to be really fast, or lucky?
 
 

Right. Or put emerge www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins --fetchonly on a cron 
job to fetch it as soon as it's stable.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez

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Re: [gentoo-user] best practise for 4 disks ... redundancy

2015-03-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 07:45:54 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

 yesterday I received a shiny new server for a client.
 
 It brings 4 x 1 TB SATA disks, is capable of UEFI and I started setting
 it up.
 
 GPT partitioning, small partition(s) for the ESP, some swap, and bigger
 partitions of type fd=raid for creating 2 mdadm-raids (rootfs and data)
 with level 6.
 
 ok so far.
 
 Then I spent some hours fiddling with grub2, gummiboot et al to get that
 box booting up fine. dracut doesn't assemble the rootfs-raid etc etc ...
 - fun

I found this with a LUKS root filesystem, dracut doesn't automatically
detect such devices any more, so speed up the boot. You need to specify
rd.auto or rd.mdraid to force it.

 even if I manage to have it booting via UEFI from /dev/sda1 or so ... I
 still have this single point of failure as the vfat-partitioned ESP is
 on one physical disk only.
 
 I would like to set it up in a way that it boots even when the /dev/sda
 dies ...

I generally set up boot on a RAID1 across all disks. You can still
access individual disks in a RAID1 array, so you can set your computer
to boot from sda1 then sda2 etc but mount /boot on the array, so all
updates are pushed to all four disks.
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 05:48:08 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:

 On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:19:32 AM German wrote:
  Hi. I was said that I need network manager to control my interfaces.
  What   
 package should I emerge? I am in console mode. Is that ncurses based or 
 command line? Any other pointers on how this can be configured are
 welcome. Thanks
  

 
 net-misc/networkmanager
 
 It comes with CLI tools but it's usually used with a frontend GUI. See 
 http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NetworkManager#NetworkManager_GUI_bits_in_GTK
 
 For KDE I use kde-misc/plasma-nm. If you don't have a desktop it
 propably makes more sense to just use wpa_supplicant directly.

wpa_supplicant doesn't handle switching between wored and wireless
interfaces, which is why I suggest a network manager. That could be
NetworkManager, but you could equally use Wicd. Both are in portage.

Alternatively, you could just set up the two interfacs
in /etc/conf.d/net and switch between them by starting and
stopping /etc/init.d/net.{eth0,wlan0}.

It depends on how automatic you want it.


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[gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread German
Hi. I was said that I need network manager to control my interfaces. What 
package should I emerge? I am in console mode. Is that ncurses based or command 
line? Any other pointers on how this can be configured are welcome. Thanks

-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 10 March 2015 19:16:12 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 I rebooted my Gentoo box...no help...
 
 The problem vanishes as I powercycled my DSL modem.
 
 Any other access was working the whole time.
 
 Was my DSL modem hacked?
 Does anyone else noticed a glithc in the matrix?

I think DSL modems must run Windows - they seem to need rebooting every 
now and then. I had to do so last week when various lookups failed, or 
needed several attempts.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-user] Can't fetch www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins

2015-03-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 06:20:25 +, Mick wrote:

  Google only keeps the latest versions so that ebuild is usually only
  good for a short while after it gets marked stable.
  Just keyword the unstable package.

 So users of the stable package have to be really fast, or lucky?

 Gentoo should keep a copy in its mirrors for as long as a current ebuild
 needs it (unless the package is fetch-restricted).

Chrome is mirror-restricted, because of:

   9.2 Subject to section 1.2, you may not (and you may not permit anyone
   else to) copy, modify, create a derivative work of, reverse engineer,
   decompile or otherwise attempt to extract the source code of the
   Software or any part thereof, unless this is expressly permitted or
   required by law, or unless you have been specifically told that you may
   do so by Google, in writing.

chrome-binary-plugins is not free software, or open source.  There is
little Gentoo can do when they keep changing the URL/hash without
warning.

You can file a bug to get the ebuild updated though.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] Can't fetch www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins

2015-03-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 06:20:25 +, Mick wrote:

  Google only keeps the latest versions so that ebuild is usually only
  good for a short while after it gets marked stable.
  Just keyword the unstable package.  
 
 So users of the stable package have to be really fast, or lucky?

Gentoo should keep a copy in its mirrors for as long as a current ebuild
needs it (unless the package is fetch-restricted).


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-11 Thread Adam Carter
The second argument to both host and nslookup, specifies the server to use
for the lookup. So, you can compare the results of the DNS server specified
in /etc/resolv.conf, with others like those mentioned above, eg
host youtube.com 8.8.8.8
or
nslookup youtube.com 4.2.2.4

However, youtube.com will no doubt be using global server load balancing,
which means the DNS response will be based on the source IP address of the
DNS request, so you can be directed to the closest youtube.com server(s).

So, since you cant be sure the DNS results will be consistent across DNS
servers, you can't use that to determine if you're being MITM'd. Mind you I
don't think a non-targetted MITM would bother with someone's youtube
traffic, but if your concerned about that just connect to youtube with
https, so the certificate can be verified.


Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mysterious vanishing of DNS entry of www.youtube.com...was I hacked?

2015-03-11 Thread Stroller

On Tue, 10 March 2015, at 6:16 pm, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 ...
 The problem vanishes as I powercycled my DSL modem.
 
 Was my DSL modem hacked?

I think it's far more likely the router ran out of memory, a process hung or 
something. 

Perhaps other sites worked because they were cached.

There's no way to debug it now, and replies can only be speculation.

If it becomes a regular problem, I suggest you install OpenWRT, which will give 
you the tools you need for debugging it.

Stroller.






Re: [gentoo-user] Can't fetch www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins

2015-03-11 Thread Stroller

On Wed, 11 March 2015, at 6:52 am, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
 I googled for it and downloaded it from a mirror.  Am I correct that if the 
 hash is not right the ebuild will complain about it,

Yes.




Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with perl dependencies on emerge -uD world

2015-03-11 Thread Stroller

On Tue, 10 March 2015, at 4:07 pm, Marko Weber | 8000 we...@zbfmail.de wrote:
 ...
 i get the following output, and have no idea how to solve this comnflicts.
 Can anyone help me or guide me?

Search the list for perl - perl update conflicts have been discussed several 
times in the last few weeks.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:19:32 AM German wrote:
 Hi. I was said that I need network manager to control my interfaces. What 
package should I emerge? I am in console mode. Is that ncurses based or 
command line? Any other pointers on how this can be configured are welcome. 
Thanks
 
 

net-misc/networkmanager

It comes with CLI tools but it's usually used with a frontend GUI. See 
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NetworkManager#NetworkManager_GUI_bits_in_GTK

For KDE I use kde-misc/plasma-nm. If you don't have a desktop it propably 
makes more sense to just use wpa_supplicant directly.

If you use systemd net-misc/netctl has a nice curses UI but I've only tried on 
Arch.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez



Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread German
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:38:08 +
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 08:14:13 -0400, German wrote:
 
eix-e: command not found. What to do?  
   
   Insert a space between eix and -e.
 
  
  Same result - command not found
 
 emerge eix, then run eix-update as root.

Ok, done that. Indeed there are anything related to x11-lib, but when I do 
emerge --ask net-misc/networkmanager I see x11-proto and x11-libs to be 
emerged. Use variable is set to -X. Anyone can shed a light on this? How can 
I emerge networkmanager without X dependencies? Thanks so much
 
 
 -- 
 Neil Bothwick
 
 Sarchasm : The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person
 who doesn't get it.


-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with perl dependencies on emerge -uD world

2015-03-11 Thread Marko Weber | 8000

hi neil,

Am 2015-03-10 21:05, schrieb Neil Bothwick:

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:07:32 +0100, Marko Weber | 8000 wrote:

on one of my gentoo-servers i try to update the system with 'emerge 
-uD

world'.

i get the following output, and have no idea how to solve this
comnflicts.
Can anyone help me or guide me?

=

# emerge -uD world

  * IMPORTANT: 10 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
  * Use eselect news to read news items.


I'd start by reading these. Chances are one of them contains the answer
to your problem.

This is caused by the movement of some packages from perl-core into the
main perl build. Make sure you have no perl-core packages in world.


just want to say that your hint worked.
i removed all perl-core packages and then 'emerge -pvuD world' worked 
again like a charm.


marko



Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with perl dependencies on emerge -uD world

2015-03-11 Thread Marko Weber | 8000

hi martin,

Am 2015-03-10 19:03, schrieb Martin Jerabek:

On 10.3.2015 17:07, Marko Weber | 8000 wrote:


Hi,
on one of my gentoo-servers i try to update the system with 'emerge 
-uD

world'.

i get the following output, and have no idea how to solve this 
comnflicts.

Can anyone help me or guide me?

=


# emerge -uD world


...



=





thanks,
marko





`perl-cleaner --all` usually works for me


perl-cleanner --reallyall wont work for me in that situation,
cause the depencie problems are still present at this state.



Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/03/2015 13:40, German wrote:
 wpa_supplicant doesn't handle switching between wored and wireless
  interfaces, which is why I suggest a network manager. That could be
  NetworkManager, but you could equally use Wicd. Both are in portage.
  
  Alternatively, you could just set up the two interfacs
  in /etc/conf.d/net and switch between them by starting and
  stopping /etc/init.d/net.{eth0,wlan0}.
  
  It depends on how automatic you want it.
 Ok, I tried to emerge networkmanger and it tries to pull a bunch of 
 dependencies which I do not need, e.g. x11-proto, x11-libs. I already set use 
 flag to -X because for now I will be happy with console mode, but it still 
 tries to pull them. How do I tell portage not emerge unneeded dependencies? 
 Thanks
 


You tell portage to not pull in unneeded dependencies by setting the
appropriate USE flags. The people you are asking for assistance will
determine this by reading the ebuild, or by using the appropriate
portage tools to figure it out. You should start learning these skills
yourself so you can answer your own questions.

1. Run eix-e networkmanager. There is nothing there related to x11.

2. Read the ebuild for networkmanager-1.0.0. There is nothing in there
related to x11, so that's not it.

3. Run emerge -pvt networkmanager. This will give an indented view of
what is pulling in what. Find the entries of x11-proto etc and see what
is pulling them in. Investigate those packages to disable x11.



-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread German
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 13:52:02 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11/03/2015 13:40, German wrote:
  wpa_supplicant doesn't handle switching between wored and wireless
   interfaces, which is why I suggest a network manager. That could be
   NetworkManager, but you could equally use Wicd. Both are in portage.
   
   Alternatively, you could just set up the two interfacs
   in /etc/conf.d/net and switch between them by starting and
   stopping /etc/init.d/net.{eth0,wlan0}.
   
   It depends on how automatic you want it.
  Ok, I tried to emerge networkmanger and it tries to pull a bunch of 
  dependencies which I do not need, e.g. x11-proto, x11-libs. I already set 
  use flag to -X because for now I will be happy with console mode, but it 
  still tries to pull them. How do I tell portage not emerge unneeded 
  dependencies? Thanks
  
 
 
 You tell portage to not pull in unneeded dependencies by setting the
 appropriate USE flags. The people you are asking for assistance will
 determine this by reading the ebuild, or by using the appropriate
 portage tools to figure it out. You should start learning these skills
 yourself so you can answer your own questions.
 
 1. Run eix-e networkmanager. There is nothing there related to x11.

eix-e: command not found. What to do?


 
 2. Read the ebuild for networkmanager-1.0.0. There is nothing in there
 related to x11, so that's not it.
 
 3. Run emerge -pvt networkmanager. This will give an indented view of
 what is pulling in what. Find the entries of x11-proto etc and see what
 is pulling them in. Investigate those packages to disable x11.
 
 
 
 -- 
 Alan McKinnon
 alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 
 


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Paul Klos
Op woensdag 11 maart 2015 08:03:06 schreef German:
 eix-e: command not found. What to do?

Insert a space between eix and -e.




Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread German




On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 11:15:06 +
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 05:48:08 -0400, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
 
  On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:19:32 AM German wrote:
   Hi. I was said that I need network manager to control my interfaces.
   What   
  package should I emerge? I am in console mode. Is that ncurses based or 
  command line? Any other pointers on how this can be configured are
  welcome. Thanks
   
 
  
  net-misc/networkmanager
  
  It comes with CLI tools but it's usually used with a frontend GUI. See 
  http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NetworkManager#NetworkManager_GUI_bits_in_GTK
  
  For KDE I use kde-misc/plasma-nm. If you don't have a desktop it
  propably makes more sense to just use wpa_supplicant directly.
 
 wpa_supplicant doesn't handle switching between wored and wireless
 interfaces, which is why I suggest a network manager. That could be
 NetworkManager, but you could equally use Wicd. Both are in portage.
 
 Alternatively, you could just set up the two interfacs
 in /etc/conf.d/net and switch between them by starting and
 stopping /etc/init.d/net.{eth0,wlan0}.
 
 It depends on how automatic you want it.

Ok, I tried to emerge networkmanger and it tries to pull a bunch of 
dependencies which I do not need, e.g. x11-proto, x11-libs. I already set use 
flag to -X because for now I will be happy with console mode, but it still 
tries to pull them. How do I tell portage not emerge unneeded dependencies? 
Thanks

 
 
 -- 
 Neil Bothwick
 
 Therapy is expensive, popping bubble wrap is cheap! You choose.


-- 
German gentger...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread German
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 13:12:04 +0100
Paul Klos gen...@klos2day.nl wrote:

 Op woensdag 11 maart 2015 08:03:06 schreef German:
  eix-e: command not found. What to do?
 
 Insert a space between eix and -e.
 

Same result - command not found
 


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 08:14:13 -0400, German wrote:

   eix-e: command not found. What to do?  
  
  Insert a space between eix and -e.

 
 Same result - command not found

emerge eix, then run eix-update as root.


-- 
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who doesn't get it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Fernando Rodriguez
frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote:
 On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:15:53 PM Tom H wrote:

 I've never used nmcli except to get ip information (see below) but
 setting up NM without a gui is simple.

 This is my home wifi setup:

 # cat /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/thsky
 [connection]
 id=thsky
 uuid=e03d75e4-043a-4276-bf03-3995270ec891
 type=802-11-wireless

 [802-11-wireless]
 ssid=myssidname
 mode=infrastructure
 security=802-11-wireless-security

 [802-11-wireless-security]
 key-mgmt=wpa-psk
 psk=myssidpassword

 [ipv4]
 method=manual
 address1=192.168.1.11/24,192.168.1.1
 dns=192.168.1.111

 [ipv6]
 method=link-local

 Did you find that documented somewhere or did you use an UI to create the file
 originally? What about when you need one of the many features that this simple
 example doesn't cover (like permissions)? what is the guid? It is hard.

I first started creating these connections by reading a page on
freedesktop.org that had the same info as what you now get with man
nm-settings. The latter might even have existed at the time...

I haven't tested this in a while but in the past you needed one of id and uuid.

The uuid is easily generated with uuidgen.


 When I started using NetworkManager I had hell trying to modify that file
 manually because plasma-nm ask for root password when modifying system wide
 connections but it doesn't save the changes (the solution was to run nm-
 connection-editor manually as root). The same applies to nmtui and it only
 covers a few options. I don't remember exactly what needed to be changed in
 the file but it wasn't intuitive.

There's a famous rant by Linus about having to provide the root
password in order to join a network.

I've never used KDE so I have no idea about which gui applet to use
and how/why settings are saved and I've never used nmtui but I suspect
(unless it was a specific NM bug at the time) that it was a problem
with the polkit settings like Linus' problem.



Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

2015-03-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 09:16:04 -0400, German wrote:

  emerge eix, then run eix-update as root.  
 
 Ok, done that. Indeed there are anything related to x11-lib, but when I
 do emerge --ask net-misc/networkmanager I see x11-proto and x11-libs to
 be emerged. Use variable is set to -X. Anyone can shed a light on
 this? How can I emerge networkmanager without X dependencies?

Alan's already told you what to do, use the -tree option with emerge to
see what pulls in the x11 packages. Then check the USE flags for them.


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[gentoo-user] best practise for 4 disks ... redundancy

2015-03-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

greetings again

yesterday I received a shiny new server for a client.

It brings 4 x 1 TB SATA disks, is capable of UEFI and I started setting
it up.

GPT partitioning, small partition(s) for the ESP, some swap, and bigger
partitions of type fd=raid for creating 2 mdadm-raids (rootfs and data)
with level 6.

ok so far.

Then I spent some hours fiddling with grub2, gummiboot et al to get that
box booting up fine. dracut doesn't assemble the rootfs-raid etc etc ...
- fun

What the question is in general:

even if I manage to have it booting via UEFI from /dev/sda1 or so ... I
still have this single point of failure as the vfat-partitioned ESP is
on one physical disk only.

I would like to set it up in a way that it boots even when the /dev/sda
dies ...

Maybe I have to go the BIOS way and have an ext2-boot-raid1 over 4
disks/partitions? I did that on other servers back then.

What is the up-to-date and recommended way of achieving this?
How do you gentoo-users do these things?

I am still at the start with this server and don't mind backing up the
rootfs and start from scratch with partitioning ;)

Thanks, Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: External HDD: sector size incorrectly detected on first connect

2015-03-11 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:38:03 -0700
schrieb walt w41...@gmail.com:

 On 03/10/2015 10:12 AM, Marc Joliet wrote:
  is there a specialised ML for the
  Linux USB stack?
 
 Yes, I follow it on gmane.org as gmane.linux.usb.general (not sure what
 the real name of the mailing list is) and Sarah Sharp is the xhci driver
 maintainer.  She was very helpful and patient when I was having similar
 and quirky problems with my usb3 adapter, and it did turn out to be a
 driver bug.  And such quirks can be very much device-specific.  I would
 not want Sarah's job, but I'm glad she does :)

OK, I'll follow up there, then.

Thanks
-- 
Marc Joliet
--
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