Re: [gentoo-user] equery depends ---- Invalid db entry:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:49:18 +, Stroller wrote: Am I correct in assuming that portage-utils does not work stuff out on the fly but needs to rebuild its database after each `emerge -- sync`? No, it works without that. I think it's simply rebuilding its cache to save time the next time you run it. -- Neil Bothwick All right, set phasers to deep fat fry! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] equery depends ---- Invalid db entry:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:40:17 -0600, Dale wrote: equery belongs file name Or, if you want the result quickly, qfile file name qfile is part of portage-utils. -- Neil Bothwick Illiterate? Write today for free help. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving LVMs around
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 16:28:27 +, Mick wrote: Question re. step 2: Does /dev/sdc1 *have* to be added (vgextend) to the same VG_old as /dev/sda5, or could it be added (vgcreate) to a new VG_new? It has to be added to do a pvmove. If you want to create a new volume group, you may as well create it and use rsync to copy the contents of the old LVs over. If the only reason for the change is to have a different name, use vgrename either before or after the move. You can't run vgrename on an in-use VG, so boot into single user mode or from a live CD. -- Neil Bothwick What was the greatest thing BEFORE sliced bread? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving LVMs around
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 21:31:35 +, Mick wrote: This is a data partition, so if I unmount it I guess I can vgrename it? Do I need to run vgchange -a n first? It wouldn't hurt. I've only done this with VGs that contain system partitions, so I always used a live CD to do it. -- Neil Bothwick In the begining, there was nothing. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Router/Firewall strangeness
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 21:35:05 +, Mick wrote: maybe use portage to check that all the binaries on your computer match to what portage thinks it should be. How do you do that? equery check cat/pkg -- Neil Bothwick It's not a bug, it's tradition! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to tell portage about manual builds
On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:50:40 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: A lot of the bigger packages (qt, mythtv, etc. etc) tend to lock up my PCs' hard drives while they're emerging. I use FEATURES=keepwork on all my boxes, and I can usually go into /var/tmp/portage/whatever-class/whatever-package/work/whatever-package and issue a make and then make install after I reboot the machines. How can I tell portage that the package is installed in this manner? That the package is indeed installed? By not mixing manual and portage compilation. To resume an emerge after a reboot, do ebuild /path/to/ebuild merge. -- Neil Bothwick All wight - Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kde-misc/kio-beagle-0.2: configure: error: cannot find sources (acinclude.m4) in . or ..
On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 14:51:27 +0100, Fred Kastl wrote: When I compile kio-beagle i get the following error Message: configure: error: cannot find sources (acinclude.m4) in . or .. * * ERROR: kde-misc/kio-beagle-0.2 failed. That's a very old version of kio-beagle that may not work with current Beagle releases. Did you get this ebuild for te lefous overlay? That one is two years old, the latest kio-beagke on kde-apps.org is 0.3.1 See the comments at http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=28437 -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 01A: Operating system overwritten - Please reinstall all your software. We are terribly sorry. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] fails to emerge app-office/openoffice-2.3.1
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:03:14 +0300, Vasiliy G Tolstov wrote: FEATURES=-collision-protect keepwork emerge openoffice The keepwork feature should avoid compiling of the whole thing again. Wonko I known about collision-protect thank you, but feature is very useful and i don't want to disable it. That will only disable it for the one emerge, and you will still be told about any potential collisions in the portage elog information. -- Neil Bothwick Happiness is merely the remission of pain. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Picasa 2.7 Beta
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:49:03 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: cd / rpm2cpio /tmp/picasa-2.7.3736-7.i386.rpm | cpio -id http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200568 reports success using rpm2targz -- Neil Bothwick Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DTV on Laptop
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:38:41 + (UTC), James wrote: There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts. The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck). I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). -- Neil Bothwick Orcs aren't all that bad... if you have plenty of ketchup. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picasa 2.7 Beta
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:01:55 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200568 reports success using rpm2targz And why should that make any difference? I mean, after all, I am able to extract the package. It's just, that I cannot run it. I'm not saying that the extraction method is important, but that someone has got it to run and detailed the steps in the bug report. -- Neil Bothwick We are Drunk of Borg. Resilience is floor tile. Wan'be sim'lated? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DTV on Laptop
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:49:46 + (UTC), James wrote: Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts. The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck). I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). Hello Neil, Check this out (hdtv): http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Analog_Digital+PVR/PCTV+HD+Pro+Stick.htm It sure be nice to find a similar device for (gentoo) linux According to http://mcentral.de/wiki/index.php/Em2880#Devices it appears this device is supported by a Linux driver. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 00B: Inadequate disk space - Free at least 50MB signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Picasa 2.7 Beta
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:37:47 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: I'm not saying that the extraction method is important, but that someone has got it to run and detailed the steps in the bug report. Well, let's not fight, but his steps are at least as detailed as what I've written here :) Granted, he wrote that he also created desktop files - that's something, I haven't done. But I think, that's at as important as the way the stuff was extracted, don't you think? :) I'm not fighting, merely pointing out reports from two people that they got it to work :( -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #56: Operator fell asleep while waiting. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DTV on Laptop
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:57:55 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). What is the quality of the picture with the Freecom? Fine. With DVB it is only spooling the MPEG stream to disk or the player, so one card seems much the same as another. You do need a reasonable antenna tough, although the Freecom worked better with a poorer setup than my Hauppage Nova 500 card, the supplied desktop antenna won't cut it unless you live next door to the transmitter. -- Neil Bothwick The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten per cent of its capacity ... the rest is overhead for the operating system. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:44:55 -0600, Dale wrote: That is when you compile it on another machine then install it on the laptop. The -K option comes to mind here. Which is what I think the OP was talking about. If you install one of the *-bin packages from portage, you are protected by the checksums in the ebuild digest. But if you create a binary package repository, there is currently no means of applying the same protection. So if you are administering machines at different locations and want to keep a single binary package repository so you only build once (remember, production servers may not have gcc installed), there is no means of checking that the downloaded package has not been tampered with. This protection applies to ebuilds and distfiles but cannot be applied to packages you build yourself. I also think that the choice is in what you install as far as programs and the options they have available. Gentoo is Linux from Scratch with a serious package manager. Choice is not about having binaries or not. Also keep in mind that if a binary has something compiled in that you don't want or need, you are stuck with it and its dependencies. This is not about precompiled packages from a distro. Portage already has the mechanism for build once, install many, it is just lacking some of the safeguards at the install stage that are present for the build stage. -- Neil Bothwick Computers are like Old Testament gods; lots of rules and no mercy. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Rules
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:41:21 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: Maybe his/her laptop doesn't stand the thermal output of its CPU when emerging or maybe he/she's the administrator of a large company's network, trying to move every computer system to Gentoo. Check out distccd! How does that help? Either every machine on the network spends time compiling when it should be earning its keep, or they all pass all the load to a compiler system that has to recompile the same code over and over for each computer on the network. Using that computer to build binary packages that the others can install is so much more efficient. -- Neil Bothwick Behaviorist psychology -- pulling habits out of rats signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] I don't understand what's happening with emerge gnupg
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:55:43 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: - why didn't portage replace the old version itself? That's generally part of the update process. GnuPG is slotted, so 1.* and 2.* can be installed simultaneously. - once I manually unmerged gnupg, what brings it back? I did *NOT* use revdep-rebuild. Use --tree with the emerge command to see this. - what's with the additional flags for 2.0.7 compared to what 2.0.7 had the previous time I tried? Unless you use --verbose, emerge shows only the USE flags that have changed since the current install. As you no longer have GnuPG installed, that is now all flags. -- Neil Bothwick As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, crypto, and backup
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:15:12 -0600, Albert Hopkins wrote: I would probably use encfs, forget about the one-lvm-per-user complexity, and just back up the encrypted filesystem just like any other fs. Alternatively, you could do the same with the in-kernel ecryptfs. These two solutions work in much the same way, allowing you to mount individual directories with their own passwords, so you could have a single /home with each user's directory having its own password. You back up the encrypted data, so no passwords are needed for this. -- Neil Bothwick Linux users do it without paying a Bill signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, crypto, and backup
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:34:42 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alternatively, you could do the same with the in-kernel ecryptfs. These two solutions work in much the same way, allowing you to mount individual directories with their own passwords, so you could have a single /home with each user's directory having its own password. You back up the encrypted data, so no passwords are needed for this. ecryptfs-utils apaprently is for ~x86 only. Any idea of when it will be ready for ~amd64? It worked on amd64 when I tried it. You just need to add the utils package to /etc/portage/package.keywords. I do have encfs emrrged on all machines, so I can start there with experimentation; it does encrypt file names, but I'd rather have a solid encrypted block than bits and pieces. I suppose that might not matter a whole lot. ISTR that ecryptfs doesn't encrypt filenames, but it's been a while since I used it. In that respect it was inferior to encfs (unless this has changed) but it was faster. -- Neil Bothwick But, I DO know everything. - Q. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How cam I get system to recognize MagicSysReq while in X gui?
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:53:18 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: the 'best' sequence is e-i-u-b (u = remount ro also syncs.. and leaves the fs in a clean state). To get the keyboard back from X try K (to sack X) or R (to pry it out of X cold, dead fingers). If you can SSH into the machine, you can also do it with echo u /proc/sysrq-trigger echo b /proc/sysrq-trigger Do not use e or i this way as they will kill sshd. -- Neil Bothwick Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:32:26 -0600, Albert Hopkins wrote:
1. Create a new runlevel, say nox and just don't put xdm in the
runlevel. The drawback to this is you have to maintain another
runlevel.
I have this in /etc/conf.d/local.stop to keep my text runlevel in line
with default
cd /etc/runlevels/default
rm -f ../text/*
for i in * ; do
ln -s ../default/$i ../text/$i
rm -f ../text/{xdm,vmware}
done
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Neil Bothwick
Weird enough for government work.
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage update problem
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:50:22 +0100, Redouane Boumghar wrote: and I guess I found the source and have to reinstall portage manually The fact is that i changed the make.profile to a 64 bits profile since the server I use is said to be 64 bits . but it's a : vendor_id : GenuineIntel model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz This is a 64 bit processor. -- Neil Bothwick The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. * Bohr signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] x looses ctrl, alt and shift keys
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:56:12 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: the only thing i can think of that might affect this is vmware or vnc. i'm using both a lot at the moment, so perhaps something to do with the keyboard grabbing is affecting x -question mark- however closing both vnc and vmware don't fix it... I've had this happen from time to time, and always when using VMware (I rarely use VNC). As with you, quitting VMware doesn't help, only logging out and back in. I've no idea if the desktop is relevant, I'm using KDE. -- Neil Bothwick Did you sleep well? No, I made a couple of mistakes. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Safe to post my MAC address?
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:40:15 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: Damn if this isn't one of the most off-topic posts ever... Oh, I don't know... I think I win that contest[1] [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/153681 Surely the dolphin thread is the lifetime winner of that award... -- Neil Bothwick To iterate is human; to recurse, divine. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:45:49 -0500 (EST), David Finkel wrote: You should just be able to pass the nox kernel command line option at boot, the xdm init script, from baselayout, contains a line which checks the kernel command line for the xdm parameter. This works, but because nox stays in /proc/cmdline, any attempt to run xdm later will fail. The only way to get back into X is to reboot. -- Neil Bothwick Does fuzzy logic tickle? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:08:13 +0200, Rumen Yotov wrote: Regarding claws-mail there's a script to rebuild it's plugins - see elogs. Since i first tried paludis-0.2.1, may still have some old use info (laziness) about paludis USE-flag (IIRC revdep-rebuild portage-utils, etc.had it). flagedit will warn you if you have any unsupported USE flags set. That and eix-test-obsolete are useful for keeping make.conf and /etc/portage clear of cruft. -- Neil Bothwick Captain, I sense millions of minds focused on my cleavage. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:17:03 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: put this in your make.conf: SEARCH_DIRS_MASK=/opt /home This should really go in /etc/revdep-rebuild/99revdep-rebuild nowadays. -- Neil Bothwick If you think that you can truncate my sig to 75 chars, then you can just fu signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:12:17 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Then, create a volume group spawning [hs]da3 with name vg00 (you can choose the name freely) and create logical volumes inside: I'd use a less generic name, otherwise you'll have problems if the computer fails and you try to connect the disk to another computer that has a vg00 volume group. I generally use a name related to the computer's hostname, which avoids conflicts. -- Neil Bothwick .sig a .sog of sixpence. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:40:29 +0100, purple wrote: This should really go in /etc/revdep-rebuild/99revdep-rebuild nowadays. same thing continue to bugs me even with this :\ dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 rebilds again :| Doesn't the ebuild create such a file for you? I have /etc/revdep-rebuild/61-sun-jdk-1.6 containing SEARCH_DIRS_MASK=/opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.03 -- Neil Bothwick What was the greatest thing BEFORE sliced bread? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:46:12 -0600, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote: Portage can continue to build packages if one fails. # emerge -options package/list_of_packages || until emerge -same_options_as_before package/list_of_packages ; do : ;done Yes it can, but not with this, which will repeatedly try to build the same package until entropy stops it. You need emerge -opts pkglist || untill emerge --resume --skipfirst; do : ; done but this is a kludge as you will be eying to build packages when their dependencies failed. I would hope the paludis option is more intelligent. -- Neil Bothwick When you are out of whack, the best thing to do is to order more whack. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Ditch webmail?
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:32:52 -0600, Dan Farrell wrote: I don't. Thunderbird is, like most mozilla products, slow an bloated. Claws-Mail (as sylpheed is now called, BTW) is light and fast Just to clarify the situation, Sylpheed is still Sylpheed. Sylpheed-Claws became Claws-Mail since it no longer follows the Sylpheed code. -- Neil Bothwick If Microsoft made cars: The airbag system would ask are you sure? before deploying. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How cam I get system to recognize MagicSysReq while in X gui?
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:26:55 -0500, Boris Fersing wrote: If you can SSH into the machine, you can also do it with echo u /proc/sysrq-trigger echo b /proc/sysrq-trigger Do not use e or i this way as they will kill sshd. Or just type 'reboot' (or anything else you want to do) ? =_=' I've had systems too messed up to run reboot or shutdown. -- Neil Bothwick In possession of a mind not merely twisted, but actually sprained. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] FS for laptop
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:34:53 +, Mick wrote: Hmm, this article suggests that XFS is the best thing since sliced bread . . . especially for files greater than 500MB. Not sure I've got many of these. I found that too, so I use XFS for partitions that handle large files (ISO images, video editing, MythTV etc.) -- Neil Bothwick I need your clothes, your boots, and your tagline! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FS for laptop
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:45:20 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: I recently asked about filesystems on a MythTv mailing list. I saw nothing but praise for XFS. Maybe they're all just lucky. They also caution against using ReiserFS, which makes sense because it is a lot slower with large files. The only time I've had problems with XFS was a year or so ago when there was a bug involving XFS on encrypted block devices. Although I generally use ReiserFS, I am using XFS for everything but /usr/portage on this laptop. -- Neil Bothwick Q. How many mice does it take to screw in a light bulb? A. Only two - but it's difficult to get them in there. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FS for laptop
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:13:54 +, Stroller wrote: I haven't been reading MythTV-users for some time, but I do recall similar threads in the past year in which opinions dissenting from this were aired. If you mentioned the Earth being round on that list, dissenting views would be aired :( -- Neil Bothwick My wallet's cache is disabled. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:54:44 -0600, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote: One option that I would like is for the build to be done completely in ram until it's compiled and ready to be placed on disk. HDD I/O is the slowest part of the system avoiding it as much as possible on systems with plenty of ram is a good idea. Mount $PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs. It will use physical and swap memory, so even OOo emerges will work providing you have a large enough swap partition. -- Neil Bothwick Daddy, what does formatting drive 'C' mean? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare server + Win 98 = VGA only?
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:08:35 -0800, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I just got vmware server going and installed a Win98SE guest. The guest didn't recognize the virtual video card, and all I get is 16 colors. Is there a fix? Did you install VMware Tools on the guest? I know this list is more about gentoo than the details of the apps, but I'm not aware of an active VMware list. A pointer to one would shut me up about this. The VMware forums are active and generally produce useful information when googling VMware problems. -- Neil Bothwick Anything is good and useful if it's made of chocolate. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel File not found
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:15:52 -0800, Grant wrote: Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 kernel /boot /kernel-2.6.22-hardened-r8 root: /dev/sda3 Error 15: File not found There should be no space between /boot and /kernel. -- Neil Bothwick Pepperami. Its a bit of an animal. What animal what bit? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:13:35 +0100, Thierry de Coulon wrote: You are right that XP should work - or you can install it on a virtual machine. I am not sure what advantages you get from running vmware from a partition (unless of course you also want to dual boot). I doubt that would work. The virtual machine identifies itself as different hardware from the host, so the MS profit-protection would kick in, claiming you were trying to run the same copy of the OS on two different computers. -- Neil Bothwick All wight - Rho sritched mg kegtops awound? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] moving my instalation to new hard drive
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:52:30 +0200, Thanasis wrote: mount -o bind / /mnt/src cd /mnt/src tar cfp - . |tar xfp - -C /mnt/dst tar cfp - . |tar xfp - -C /mnt/dst You don't need to mess around with bind mounting /, just do cd / tar clfp - ... For that matter, the f option is redundant, as tar send to stdout by default. cd / tar cp . | tar xp -C /mnt/dst Even simpler... rsync -ax / /mnt/dst/ -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 18: Taped live signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: removing X
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:56:57 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to follow the advice offered there an run the newuse world yet... I want to finish cleaning house first. Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to the following required packages not being installed x11-proto/kbproto required by x11-libs/libX11-1.1.1 x11-libs/libXt-1.0.5 x11-proto/xextproto required by x11-libs/libXext-1.0.3 ... You may have a long night ahead of you. Unless this is a slow machine, it is probably quicker to emerge -u world first, especially if most the packages you have removed as as small as the ones you listed. -- Neil Bothwick I'm not crying victim, but I am stating that a lot of spammers are genuine scumbags. -Sanford Wallace signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] moving my instalation to new hard drive
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:28:37 +, Stroller wrote: It might be as simple as completing the `dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb` and then using `fdisk` to delete the last partition, then recreate it with the same start point (and a later end point). The filesystem would then need to be resized. But I don't know if this will work, It will, I've done it myself. The main disadvantages are that you can only resize the last partition,and it is very slow (because dd copies every byte of the source drive, not jut the ones in use). Although I have used this method, I wouldn't do it again, I'd set up the partitions, copy with rsync and run grub to install it on the new drive. -- Neil Bothwick Error reading FAT record: Try the SKINNY one? (Y/N) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Intel Wireless 3945ABG Adapter
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 01:04:33 +0200, Sergey Kobzar wrote: At the moment I use IPW3945. Is it wort to switch to iwlwifi? How does it work with 2.6.23 kernel? Is it stable? I use iwlwifi with an Intel 4965 and it works well. -- Neil Bothwick Accordion: a bagpipe with pleats. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync for backup, can anybody help
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 15:43:32 +, Paul Stear wrote: I use a script to perform backup to a connected usb harddisk and I have noticed that it appears to be writing all files each time instead of updating only the changes. I am wondering if rsync has changed. I have read the man pages but am not quite sure if I understand it fully. This is part of my script:- $RSYNC \ -Cvalu --delete-during --stats --progress --exclude '*Trash*' --exclude '/home/paul/Programs' --exclude 'run' \ --exclude 'test' --exclude 'media/' --exclude '/home/paul/video/' --exclude 'mnt/' --exclude 'sys' \ --exclude 'tmp' --exclude 'joan' --exclude 'backup' --exclude 'proc/' --exclude 'log' \ --exclude 'boot' --exclude 'dev/' --exclude 'lost+found' \ / /mnt/external/MusicBackup ; Could someone who is more knowledgeable than me please review the above and let me know what changes I need to make. First of all, put all your excludes in a file and use --exclude-from filename, it makes thing much easier to read. What filesystem are you using on the target? If it is FAT, you may need to use --modify-window because of FAT's different timestamping. One other question I wanted to create the empty directories on the backup i.e. run, dev, also directory links i.e. lib to lib64 Use --one-file-system instead of excluding /proc, /sys etc. It saves adding all those excludes and it creates the mount-points, because that are on the source filesystem. -- Neil Bothwick Ultimate memory manager; Windows, it manages to use it all.. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Any glaring use flags here
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 22:53:10 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This machine is been prepped to be a sort of DMZ machine, but not more wannabe than really since it will not route stuff to my home lan at all... just be the recipient of all blocked stuff at an upsteam NETGEAR firewall/router. I would like an opinion about the USE flags I keep in /etc/make.conf USE=mysql emacs mbox hal acpi logrotate vga nptl nptlonly \ -ipv6 -imap -maildir -gnome -X -kde It depends on the profile you use, since that affects the defaults for flags not set/unset in /etc. Which profile are you using, hopefully a server one, and what does emerge --info show. The output from emerge --info shows the actual USE flags that will be used, which will be far too many if you are using a desktop profile. -- Neil Bothwick I heard Tasha Yar is the Enterprise's expert on Data entry. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Any glaring use flags here
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 10:03:39 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does one go about changing the profile? Is it as simple as just changing the symlink? Pretty much, then run emerge -uavDN world followed by emerge --depclean, with and without -p, then revdep-rebuild -p -i. -- Neil Bothwick When you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear demonic Voices... that's nothing - when you play it forward it installs Windows signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync for backup, can anybody help
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:07:38 +, Paul Stear wrote: --one-file-system Still not sure what the above will produce, I didn't find the man page very readable. Take sys for example, if it is saying that the directory would be created, would I still need to exclude everything under it?. The /sys mount point is on the same filesystem as /, so it will be included, but the contents are no a separate (virtual) filesystem, so they won't be copied. The same goes for /proc /dev and removable devices mounted under /mnt and /media. It also applies to your backup drive, which you need to exclude, and /home, which you don't. So you'll need to backup /home, and any other partitions you need, separately. I prefer to keep backups of the OS and user data separate anyway, so this suits me. -- Neil Bothwick Due to inflation, all clouds will now be lined with zinc. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] dev-haskell/{cabal,haxml} -- runaway memory hog
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:51:15 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if you tried deleting HaXML from /var/lib/portage/world and then remerging it? It would skip the `prerm` action and just overwrite everything. Nah, no luck. Emerge -p shows it still knows that haxml is a remerge, not a merge from scratch. Whether I try an unmerge or a merge, it still has the prerm phase and it still gobbles memory. You'd need to delete it fro the package database in /var/db/pkg. That would convince portage that it wasn't installed, but I have no idea what side effects this may produce with this package... if any. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 25: New York culture signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo GRUB help
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 05:43:09 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: Thanks. Oddly, grub detects hda and fd0 as boot devices - there is no floppy and hda does not have a partition marked for boot. GRUB does not need the boot partition to be flagged as such, that's only needed for the MSDOS bootloaders. -- Neil Bothwick Photons have mass? I didn't know they were catholic! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Migration from single to dual core
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 00:14:58 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote: So, again, what differences will there be, that will require immediate adjustment? I have changed to -j3 in make.conf. I have so many packages installed it will take many days to recompile, and, again, I am considering a reinstallation of everything. Providing you are sticking to the same 32 or 64 bit choice, enabling SMP in the kernel should be sufficient, although you may also want to revisit your CFLAGS (I went from Althon64 to Intel Core2Duo so I did have to change CFLAGS). So what if it takes days to emerge -e world? You have a working system that will continue to work while you are recompiling. As far as the build up of cruft on your system is concerned, reinstalling to get rid of it is the windows-esque solution, i.e. it is not a solution at all. You need to learn top keep your system clean with judicious use of emerge --depclean and revdep-rebuild. If a worl update causes you problems now, reinstalling won't fix that, it will merely delay its recurrence. -- Neil Bothwick Why marry a virgin? If she wasn't good enough for the rest of them, then she isn't good enough for you. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] hplip upgrade wants qt in spite of USE flags
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:59:41 -0500 (EST), Chris Bare wrote: I'm trying to run my normal upgrade on a gnome-only system. It looks like the 2.7 version of hplip wants qt even though I have the following in my make.conf USE: -kde -qt -qt3 -qt4 Set USE=-X for hplip. -- Neil Bothwick Favorite Windoze game: Guess what this icon does? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia users: please sign petition for open/free drivers
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:33:36 -0600, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote: Keeping in mind that this petition probably might not work, I think it's a good idea to let Nvidia know how many people are interested in having free drivers. This might lead them to release information on how to write drivers for their hardware. The problem with this is that Nvidia license non-free code for use in their drivers. They are not allowed to distribute the source, or other information about the code, so they have two choices for Linux drivers: release binary drivers or release open drivers with the code removed and have everyone complain how the Linux drivers are slower or less capable than the Windows ones. Damned if they do and damned if they don't :( -- Neil Bothwick Wrappers are futile. Chocolate will be assimilated. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia users: please sign petition for open/free drivers
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:00:07 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: The problem with this is that Nvidia license non-free code for use in their drivers. They are not allowed to distribute the source, or other information about the code, so they have two choices for Linux drivers: They could rewrite it step by step and release the rewritten parts to the community. No they couldn't, at least not without ensuring that no one working on the new code has seen any of the licensed code. So they need to pay a separate team of developers to develop an alternative to something they've already paid for. Can you see them going for that? Such a task is better undertaken by people outside of Nvidia, but if it was that simple it would have been done already. -- Neil Bothwick Windows: just another pane in the glass -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get my overlay into layman ?
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 23:17:03 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: could anyone please give me some hint how to get my overlay into layman's overlay list ? As it says in the layman man page: To get a new overlay added to the central list provided for layman, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Neil Bothwick Windows NT is the OS of the future and always will be... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] besides package.use where to store info needed at emerge
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:42:09 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know about /etc/portage/package.use but where would I keep something like and extra configure flag, that I always want applied. mkdir -p /etc/portage/env/cat/ echo EXTRA_ECONF='whatever' /etc/portage/env/cat/pkg -- Neil Bothwick MASOCHIST: Windows SDK programmer with a smile! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: besides package.use where to store info needed at emerge
On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:44:14 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the `pkg' part of /etc/portage/env/cat/pkg Do I need to include the full address somehow like: dev-util/cvs or just `/etc/portage/env/cat/cvs' cat = category pkg = package Use /etc/portage/env/dev-util/cvs -- Neil Bothwick Windows isn't a virus -- viruses do something! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: besides package.use where to store info needed at emerge
On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:01:07 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to keep nagging with this but I must still not have it right. I do not see that compile flag being set during emerge: It looks like the cvs ebuild doesn't use EXTRA_ECONF. You could file a bug report about this. -- Neil Bothwick Forgive your enemies. But hit them a few times first. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 2.6.24 config options
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:31:08 -0800, Grant wrote: My mistake. Enabling CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL generated a lot more config options. I thought all possible config options would exist in .config, even if they weren't enabled. Use the search facility in make menuconfig to find options, it also tells you what you need to enable to make the options visible. -- Neil Bothwick Famed tautologist dies of suicide in distressing tragedy signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.24 config options
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:45:32 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote: Where does this x.x.24 kernel come from? I did a recent emerge sync and when I do emerge -pv gentoo-sources portage comes up with x.x.22-r9. But Grant is trying to use vanilla-sources. -- Neil Bothwick Can vegetarians eat animal crackers? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.24 config options
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:18:23 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge -pv vanilla-sources These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.22.9 USE=-build -symlink 44,122 kB Use eix to search packages, it shows all packages, including keyworded and masked versions. emerge -p only shows the latest version available for your arch and profile. -- Neil Bothwick To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Any newer Gentoo install CDs?
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:21:07 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: My son built a PC Friday using an Asus P5E motherboard. We went to install Gentoo 2007.0 and found it didn't see the disk drives and hence cannot be installed. Are these SATA drives? Are the controllers running as AHCI? I have a P5E variant i this machine and installed on it last Spring with no such problems (although the kernel used then didn't support my on-board NIC). -- Neil Bothwick Forget the Joneses...I can't keep up with The Simpsons. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Any newer Gentoo install CDs?
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:52:14 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: The drive is SATA. I'm not familiar with AHCI. (What? Advanced Host controller Interface or something like that? If this is a driver that needs to be loaded let me know and I'll try booting again and looking around. Yep, good guess :) AFAIR, I'm on a different computer now, it was a BIOS option to enable AHCI for the SATA controllers. -- Neil Bothwick RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Any newer Gentoo install CDs?
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:31:43 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: OK, I took a few minutes away from his Half Life game to look at BIOS. I found the AHCI option and enabled it. Of course he wanted to get back to gaming so we tried to boot back into Windows but XP goes blue screen at the first disk access with AHCI enabled. This laptop is similar, Vista won't boot with AHCI enabled. I guess Windows just doesn't like standards :( Possibly XP might work if it installed with AHCI enabled but typical of Windows it doesn't like configuration changes after it's installed. Is there any other solution for this or is the only Linux support going to require AHCI? It is unfortunately not reasonable or practical to switch BIOS options when choosing which OS to boot. You only need to use AHCI to boot the install CD. Then you can build a kernel with drivers for your SATA controller for the installed system. -- Neil Bothwick Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Any newer Gentoo install CDs?
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 12:53:29 +0100, Galevsky wrote: AHCI is fully supported out of the box for Microsoft Windows Vista and the Linux operating system from kernel 2.6.19. Older operating systems require drivers written by the host bus adapter vendor in order to support AHCI. The Windows install that I mentioned having problems with AHCI is Vista. -- Neil Bothwick Loose bits sink chips. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 14:35:27 +0200, Daniel Iliev wrote: (1) echo media-video/mplayer /etc/portage/package.keywords This just causes portage to use the testing, ~arch version of the program (2) echo media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc2_p24929-r2 /etc/portage/package.provided This should be /etc/portage/profile/package.provided man portage explains the location and function of these files. -- Neil Bothwick Crayons can take you more places than starships. * Guinan signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 23:20:02 +0200, Daniel Iliev wrote: Actually the changes I want to make are not so few. The whole story is that several days ago a friend of mine pointed me to a very cool front-end for mplayer: http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/ Unfortunately it can't be found in portage yet. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176211 -- Neil Bothwick Why isn't phonetically spelled that way? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.24 config options
On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 15:03:00 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote: Did a fresh emerge --sync emerge portage but: Did you run update-eix? Or use eix-sync instead of emerge --sync. -- Neil Bothwick Beware of the opinion of someone without any facts. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FreeAgent extn. Drive setup ideas
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 04:56:42 + (UTC), James wrote: Or maybe something cool related to the usb buss and a trick to *uniquely lable* usb devices. I'd need a tool/script/program to rip the serial number from the usb buss. and then compare it to the FStab or udev rules. Maybe sd(serial-number) so they always show up uniquely? Add cameras and audio devices, not to mention embedded programmers and boards and I'm ready to .. This all seems to betting unnecessarily complicated. See http://www.reactivated.net/udevrules.php for an explanation of how to write udev rules to give persistent naming based on any attribute of the device, including serial numbers. -- Neil Bothwick Electric chairs are period furniture: they end a sentence signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What's with this hald thing and why can't I rip CDs any more?
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:41:16 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Things here are still basically a disaster. I rebooted. No change. sound-juicer still only rips the 1st six tracks and then skips the last seven. Pretty much the same on every CD I've tried so far. No messages in dmesg. Have you tried a different ripper? This could be a problem with sound-juicer, not hal/dbus. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as the pin fell out of the grenade. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Update After A Year
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:57:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Generally you can just emerge -uND world and we done with it. But life isn't always so simple. I can think of a few updates in the last while that were problematic, but I think they were all more than a year ago: The expat upgrade was less than a year ago for stable systems. I'd go with emerge -auvDN system and check the output carefully before opting to proceed. I'd also make sure that ELOG is correctly set up in make.conf so you don't miss any important massages. After updating system, it would be prudent to run revdep-rebuild before moving onto the rest of world. emerge -e is pointless, portage is quite capable of determining what needs to be updated, and reemerging everything just creates noise and confusion that could make it harder to deal with any potential problems. -- Neil Bothwick Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] expat update (was:Update After a Year)
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:22:06 +0100, b.n. wrote: Sorry if hijacking the thread, but: it's a long time I have expat-1.9.6 and, even if 2.0.1 is in portage, emerge -av world doesn't tell me to upgrade (I guess emerge -Dav would, but why should I?). Should I do nonetheless, or can I wait? If portage isn't forcing you to install it, you don't need it. On the other hand, it is a bit of a pain to update, so you may as well get it over with when you know you have the time to deal with it. -- Neil Bothwick Do you reply to our surveys.? [X]Never [ ]Always [ ]Sometimes signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:35:22 -0600, Dale wrote: I have it set to send it text for this domain. Is it not sending in plain text? I have the same settings for other mailing lists as well. You're sending multipart, plain and html, mails. -- Neil Bothwick Stop tagline theft! Copyright your tagline (c) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD : was Is GWN dead?
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:41:09 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I didn't like the Gnome desktop on the CD wondered why it doesn't use eg Fluxbox, but that's personal taste (smile). I understand they are switching to a lighter desktop for the next release, because GNOME was using too much of the CD that was needed for packages. -- Neil Bothwick 8088 = model T Ford. Pentium = supercharged 400 horsepower model T Ford. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] HTML vs. Text messages (WAS: Is GWN dead?)
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:33:24 -0600, Dale wrote: Thanks. I didn't know you could change that in the address book. Can you tell me how this one comes through? It should be plain text, hopefully only plain text. It is :) -- Neil Bothwick Trekkers work out in the `He's Dead Gym'. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:29:34 +0100, b.n. wrote: Moreover, I'd go on to say that the fact Gentoo is installable from almost every reasonable Linux-based live cd is a defining Gentoo feature. It doesn't even need a live CD. I installed Ubuntu when I first got this laptop, because I needed a Linux environment quickly and I had an Ubuntu disc. I then installed Gentoo from within the installed Ubuntu OS. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 22: Childproof signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:08:43 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: And while where at it: Get those stage1 installs back into the Handbook. I did a stage3 install 2 weeks ago and it was a nightmare. One needs to recompile nearly everything afterwards, so stage3 doesn't make any difference. Except that you can use the system while it is recompiling. I switched to using Stage 3 installs about three years ago, it's so much easier and gives you a working system in under an hour. The fact that it spends the next day or two recompiling in the background, at a nice level of 19, doesn't detract from that at all. -- Neil Bothwick Sevareid`s Law: The chief cause of problems is solutions. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:35:55 +0100, b.n. wrote: But i still think a Gentoo-Install-CD/DVD is a good thing. Any practical reason for that? It is a lot more comfortable for the first-time installer. One of the problems with mixing components for various sources is knowing where to turn for help when things go wrong. A single source means a single point of contact, and no chance of each supplier blaming the other's component. While a Gentoo install CD is not essential for installing Gentoo, it is a good thing to have. It also allows you to install without a network connection if you have a single CD containing the handbook, tools, portage snapshot and stage files. That's how I installed my new desktop last year, because the install CD didn't support my network card (nor did the latest stable kernel). So while an official install disc is not necessary for installation for many people, it is a part of what Gentoo should offer. Note that I'm referring to what is now called the minimal CD, the GUI installer CD is still a waste of resources IMO. -- Neil Bothwick I distinctly remember forgetting that. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:06:39 +0100, b.n. wrote: Because you don't have to add *anything* to such cd. -What do you need to install Gentoo? A working Linux live cd with a terminal and chroot. -Are a terminal and chroot available on 99.9% of Linux live cds in the world? Yes. You also need the handbook, a portage snapshot and a stage tarball. How many live CDs provide these? -- Neil Bothwick If at first you don't succeed, call it Windows NT. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:53:48 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote: You also need the handbook, a portage snapshot and a stage tarball. How many live CDs provide these? None. But the portage snapshot is best fetched from the web anyway, as far as I'm concerned. Same with the handbook, as it may contain (theoritcal) up-to-the minute corrections. So, the portage snapshot and handbook don't have to on the Live CD. No, but it's a lot easier if they are when doing a networkless install. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 43: Genuine imitation signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:00:20 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote: It is a lot more comfortable for the first-time installer. Why's that? Because a first-time installer benefits from the confidence given by using an official install disc. It also allows you to install without a network connection if you have a single CD containing the handbook, tools, portage snapshot and stage files. How do you get that stuff (the Install CD)? By downloading? Why can't you download the handbook, snapshot and stage tar ball as well at that time? And what tools are you talking about? fdisk? chroot? Everything needed can be obtained by downloading one ISO image and burning it to CD. There's no need for extra trips back the the netted computer to fetch things you discover you need after reading the handbook, or partway through the install. So while an official install disc is not necessary for installation for many people, it is a part of what Gentoo should offer. I disagree. Maybe it's a bonus if it's offered, but then it always has to be up-to-date. And that, obviously, cannot be done right now. So I'd rather say, that it would be better, if there were no install CD at all. But it can be done. The basic CD is a minimal live CD with portage snapshots and stage tarballs, which is relatively easy to keep up to date. What is holding the process back in the insistence on including a full desktop and graphical installer on the CD, which is a complete waste of effort IMO. I would prefer releng to concentrate on producing the traditional style minimal CD, with the installer project releasing their own discs based on this when they are able. -- Neil Bothwick When you choke a smurf, what color does it turn? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:20:04 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote: This cannot be done, as the install CD has to be fetched over network anyway. At that time, the portage snapshot and handbook can be downloaded as well. I've already covered that in a previous reply to you. -- Neil Bothwick Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:15:38 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: 1) Boots new hardware well enough to do the install. The current LiveCD doesn't boot a P5E motherboard so I couldn't do the install on that machine using it. It booted on mine, I installed from a 2007.0 install disc. 2) Has networking turned on for whatever my NIC is and makes it easy to start sshd. But it didn't do networking, so /i did a networkless install and updated the kernel to a later one that did support my NIC. -- Neil Bothwick Windows '96 artificial intelligence: Unable to FORMAT A: Having a go at C: signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:24:52 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote: Because a first-time installer benefits from the confidence given by using an official install disc. I don't understand that. What confidence? To install Gentoo, you need a way to partition your storage, create filesystems and chroot. That can easily be done by any live CD. Assuming you know what you are doing. If you've ever tried to help a number of less confident users through it, you'd know what I mean. While I don't disagree that a Gentoo live CD is absolutely necessary, you seem to be taking the argument further, saying that Gentoo should not have its own live CD. Why? -- Neil Bothwick Is it a bigger crime to rob a bank or to open one? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:46:18 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Except that you can use the system while it is recompiling. I can also use the system while doing a stage1 install. Depends on the capabilities of the install CD you use. In that case, you're using the live CD system, not the installed system. It can make a difference. -- Neil Bothwick And what else floats.? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:27:30 +0100, b.n. wrote: If I can give you an advice: don't create a new livecd from scratch. Take an Ubuntu, Knoppix or similar live cd, just add these three files in a /gentoo directory, and re-release it xerox, with just the three files added and a Gentoo logo somewhere. Or simply rebuild the existing CD with a newer kernel. Almost all of the complaints about it being out of date can be traced back to the users' hardware not being supported in the kernel used a year ago. -- Neil Bothwick I locked my coathanger in my car; good thing I had a key. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild that installs partprobe
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:20:26 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: There a site out there that lists files installed for just about all gentoo ebuilds, could some kind soul post the url for me please? http://www.rommel.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~fejf/cgi-bin/pfs-web.pl?action=home But it's currently not working :( http://packages.debian.org says it's part of parted, and qfile agrees (I didn't even know I had it installed). -- Neil Bothwick Uhura: Captain, you're being flamed on channel one. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installing via GRML
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:10:43 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote: I don't quite understand. When you're installing stuff from within Kubuntu (or whatever Live CD), you're in a Gentoo chroot. Why can't you install mirrorselect there and run mirrorselect in the chroot? How would you download it when you haven't set GENTOO_MIRRORS yet :) -- Neil Bothwick This man is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:19:04 -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: So, I interpret this as the mplayer plugin not being available for firefox 3.0, which is why it's pulling in the 2.0 stream. So, my best solution is probably just to uninstall the mplayer plugin, is that right? It's because you're trying to emerge it with the firefox USE flag. Remove that from make.conf and use xulrunner instead. -- Neil Bothwick Forget the Joneses...I can't keep up with The Simpsons. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer plugin
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:57:40 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: It's because you're trying to emerge it with the firefox USE flag. Remove that from make.conf and use xulrunner instead. I have both USE flags and have *noticed* any problems. However, I prefer to avoid rather than fix problems. Can you point me at documentation for when one should have firefox and/or xulrunner USE flags? You have noticed or you have not noticed? Either way, your original post was one such problem. If you search the list archives for xulrunner you'll find several threads dealing with this, including one in the last day or so. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 5: Twelve-ounce pound cake signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] motherboard died?
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:32:15 +, Matt Harrison wrote: I can't see how I could have properly killed some hardware just by moving a cable an inch to one side. Did you touch a grounded object before putting your hand inside the case. A static discharge could kill the motherboard. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 40: Same difference signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] e2fsprogs blocking question
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:24:33 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Anyway, it is OK to remove this block and then proceed with the system emerge, correct? Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20080123 [20070724] 0 kB [?=0] [ebuild U ] app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7 [4.32.5] USE=-nocxx% 0 kB [?=0] SNIP [ebuild N] sys-apps/man-pages-posix-2003a 0 kB [0] [ebuild N] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.3-r1 USE=nls 0 kB [0] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.14.1 [2.13.1] USE=crypt nls unicode -loop-aes -old-linux (-selinux) -slang (-uclibc) 0 kB [0] [ebuild U ] sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.3 [1.40.4] USE=nls (-static%) 0 kB [0] [blocks b ] sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41 (sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41 is blocking sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.3-r1) You don't need to remove anything, just let portage handle the block for you. Blocks marked with a b (instead of a B) can be handled by recent portage releases. -- Neil Bothwick Q. Why did the koala fall out of the tree? A. It was dead. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] e2fsprogs blocking question
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:00:07 +0100, Geralt wrote: You don't need to remove anything, just let portage handle the block for you. Blocks marked with a b (instead of a B) can be handled by recent portage releases. are you sure that his works in this case? This blocking bug was some time before the new Portage went stable and back then you had to resolve it by hand. That's right, but now the new portage is stable so it is handled on stable systems. The block was handled automatically when it first appeared on ~arch systems. -- Neil Bothwick Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] e2fsprogs blocking question
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:59:32 -0200, Alejandro wrote: That's right, but now the new portage is stable so it is handled on stable systems. The block was handled automatically when it first appeared on ~arch systems. Which version of portage do this? I am on amd64 stable and have the problem a couple of week ago, and i don/t remember any portage update,,, 2.1.6 AFAIK, which contains some of the new 2.2 features. I've not used it myself because I always use testing versions of portage, even on stable boxes. -- Neil Bothwick Secret hacker rule #11: hackers read manuals. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] rebuilding dependent packages
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:37:20 -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: The libavcodec library went from version 51 to 52, which broke transcode. The --deep argument did not find the dependency there and rebuild transcode. On my FreeBSD server, portupgrade has the -r and -R arguments to force rebuilds of dependent and reverse-dependent packages. Is there a way to have emerge do the same? emerge @preserved-libs does that with portage 2.2. Emerge even tells you to run it, and hangs on to the old versions until you do so, so your system is never broken. Revdep-rebuild is good for fixing things after they are broken, but the new portage approach of not breaking them is much nicer :) -- Neil Bothwick If at first you don't succeed you'll get lot's of advice. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A circular dependency problem with notification-daemon and libnotify...
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:27:12 -0500, Chris Walters wrote: I was wondering if anyone else was having this problem. I am running an AMD64 arch, and when I try to emerge notification-daemon, it will not compile because libnotify is not present. If I try to emerge libnotify, it tries to merge notification-daemon first, and I get the same problem. PS: I was wondering if removing the 'gstreamer' USE flag from notification-daemon might fix the problem. The only amd64 ebuild of notification-daemon, 0.3.7, does not have a gstreamer USE flag. That's only present in the 0.4.0 ebuild, which is ~amd64. Are you trying to mix stable and testing packages? -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as the vice squad took his GIFS signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] More on /sys files
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:13:44 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm in the process of rsyncing an OS to a remote file system. when rsyncing /sys to remote /sys... I get piles of errors /sys is a virtual filesystem, like /dev and /proc. Even if you do succeed on copying the contents,you'll only waste space on the root partition of the new machine and the virtual filesystems will get mounted over them. On my desktop, one file in /proc is more that ten times the size of the root filesystem! Use the -x option with rsync to prevent copying these. -- Neil Bothwick Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] lirc and mceusb2 - no /dev/lirc0 node
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:17:28 +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: However, inserting the lirc_mceusb2 module and starting lircd doesnt give any lirc nodes in /dev except for /dev/lircd. Previously I had /dev/lirc0. Ive gone back to the older 2.6.23 kernel - now there is no /dev/lirc0 with that one also, either before or after rebuilding lirc :( Try this http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189022 -- Neil Bothwick I thought I saw the light at the end of the tunnel... but it was just some sod with a torch bringing me more work! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] qt blockages...
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:18:10 -0600, Dale wrote: Could also be that you don't have slots defined for some of those in your world? for example do you have qt or qt:3 etc? I don't appear to have anything qt related in my world file. Nor should you. Unless you are developing QT software, or have some arcane QT package built from source, you should only have QT installed as a dependency. -- Neil Bothwick Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] qt blockages...
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:36:58 -0800, Nickolas Fortino wrote: using --with-bdeps=y would certainly work (and in the interest of full disclosure is what I do), but it shouldn't be necessary. Having emerge --depclean remove build dependencies should be ok. Afterwards, emerge -avuDN world should do nothing, as although the build dependencies for packages are missing, the world packages themselves don't need rebuilding, so there is nothing to do. depclean wouldn't remove them in the first place,because the default setting for with-bdeps is y when using --depclean. Using thedefault just means that build time dependencies won't be updated on a world update, deep or otherwise, unless the package depending on them is updated. -- Neil Bothwick Reboot America. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Append string on Kernel builds
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:43:56 -0600, rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
I like to use that and put `-$MYHOST' as string. I wondered if there
is any way to set a numericly incrementing string. Maybe some trick
syntax that can go in that spot?
cd /usr/src/linux
echo -${MYHOST}- localversion1
ln -s .version localversion2
The build system adds the contents of any localversion* files it finds,
and it also increments .version.
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