Re: [Gimp-user] Attn: GIMP
Shlomi Fish, Thank you for your reply. After I get my budget back on track (GIMP may be free, but music gear is most certainly not haha), I will gladly make a donation. I know several friends who use it consistently as well. Happy New Year to you too! -Original Message- From: Shlomi Fish [mailto:shlo...@shlomifish.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 3:27 PM To: Jeff Weidemoyer Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Attn: GIMP Hi Jeff, On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 22:30:29 -0500 Jeff Weidemoyer jeffweidemo...@adponemansjourney.com wrote: Attn: GIMP, Firstly, I apologize if this was not the correct email contact. I did not see a better email contact provided in regards to my email content. I am a solo musician / songwriter from Lebanon, PA, USA, and I wish to thank you all for being such an important influence to me as I look to continue the journey I have started with my creative project. I wouldn't have been able to create my EP without your great product. I have been using GIMP for nearly four years, and I have created every single logo I have to my name using your product. They say that the best things in life are free, and with everything your product offers, I believe Audacity is one of those things that statement is referring to. Admittedly, your product as well as Audacity, are two of the best free software programs available for any creative person as far as I am concerned. All of the album artwork, as well as marketing materials I made to support the EP was made utilizing GIMP. I'm glad you like GIMP and found it useful. I believe the GIMP developers will appreciate a donation, but, naturally, you are not obligated to make one. Good luck, and Happy New Year! I plan to release a third EP, and 24 full-length albums over the next 24 years of my creative career. Unless any unforeseen circumstances come up, I plan to continue using your products throughout the entirety of my musical career. I hope I can help to bring even more pride and respect to your already reputable brand through my music. http://adponemansjourney.bandcamp.com (Free instant-download) Thanks for the link. I downloaded the album (without paying) and I am going to listen to it. If I like it enough, then I may make a donation. Regards, -- Shlomi Fish (a GIMP contributor and coder, but certainly not a core developer). -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Humanity - Parody of Modern Life - http://shlom.in/humanity “Interesting” has a negative correlation with “successful”. — Anno on Freenode’s #perl Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Attn: GIMP
Pete, Thank you for your email. Well that's a great question, and one that I expect one will be asked a lot as I progress further. Who has 24 years planned out for their creative projects, let alone the next 3 years? I'm hoping to avoid myself being my own cover band like some popular bands today (Metallica, Guns N' Roses are the primary bands that comes to mind). So, I figured if I give myself a timeline to fit my expected releases into, hopefully I can be able to keep my creative bottle filled (so-to-speak), versus having it run-out and still attempting to release new material. I hope that makes sense! Thank you again! \m/ JP \m/ From: Pete Wright [mailto:pnwri...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:06 PM To: Shlomi Fish Cc: Jeff Weidemoyer; Gimp Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Attn: GIMP Okay, I'll bite. Why 24 years? That might be about right for me, since I am 75. Keep your horizons long! Now I am off to listen to the music On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org wrote: Hi Jeff, On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 22:30:29 -0500 Jeff Weidemoyer jeffweidemo...@adponemansjourney.com wrote: Attn: GIMP, Firstly, I apologize if this was not the correct email contact. I did not see a better email contact provided in regards to my email content. I am a solo musician / songwriter from Lebanon, PA, USA, and I wish to thank you all for being such an important influence to me as I look to continue the journey I have started with my creative project. I wouldn't have been able to create my EP without your great product. I have been using GIMP for nearly four years, and I have created every single logo I have to my name using your product. They say that the best things in life are free, and with everything your product offers, I believe Audacity is one of those things that statement is referring to. Admittedly, your product as well as Audacity, are two of the best free software programs available for any creative person as far as I am concerned. All of the album artwork, as well as marketing materials I made to support the EP was made utilizing GIMP. I'm glad you like GIMP and found it useful. I believe the GIMP developers will appreciate a donation, but, naturally, you are not obligated to make one. Good luck, and Happy New Year! I plan to release a third EP, and 24 full-length albums over the next 24 years of my creative career. Unless any unforeseen circumstances come up, I plan to continue using your products throughout the entirety of my musical career. I hope I can help to bring even more pride and respect to your already reputable brand through my music. http://adponemansjourney.bandcamp.com (Free instant-download) Thanks for the link. I downloaded the album (without paying) and I am going to listen to it. If I like it enough, then I may make a donation. Regards, -- Shlomi Fish (a GIMP contributor and coder, but certainly not a core developer). -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Humanity - Parody of Modern Life - http://shlom.in/humanity Interesting has a negative correlation with successful. - Anno on Freenode's #perl Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp is not free... that's why people prefer paid software.
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 08:39:12AM +0100, Marco Ciampa wrote: On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 08:02:01AM +0100, FallenLegend wrote: No, GIMP is not free Nor any open source program for that matter.It costs the time and effort our brilliant developers gift us and yes even money because their work has a lot of valueSo why we keep pretending it is really free. I stop here, there is a big misunderstanding. using the word libre instead of free helps a lot... I reckon I was too concise. I meant that that stress upon the money does not tell you the whole story. Free is about freedom. Often developers asked no money but just programming help. IMHO money (usually) just leads to diverge projects from the useful to the marketing / popular / fashion requests and that seriously hurts free projects like GIMP. There is a reason why althought so few the free developers produce such high quality software: they have no bosses. They decide on their own. This behaviour is not error free but usually produce far more efficient, better and error free code. Compare the results with so many 24h programmers Adobe Photoshop sports and how trementulsy efficients are GIMP devs. I know that GIMP devs are on average smarter than Adobe ones ;-) but that does not explain this fact. I believe freedom is smarter and the only way to keep it smart is staying away from money. You COULD introduce money but you have to do it without constrains, and IMHO this is a very difficoult thing to do. I myself have no idea on how it could be done. Please. forgive my bad english. -- Marco Ciampa L'utopia sta all'orizzonte. Mi avvicino di due passi, lei si allontana di due passi. Faccio dieci passi e l'orizzonte si allontana di dieci passi. Per quanto cammini, non la raggiungerò mai. A cosa serve l'utopia? A questo: serve a camminare. Eduardo Galeano ++ | Linux User #78271 | | FSFE fellow #364 | ++ ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Gimp is not free... that's why people prefer paid software.
... I believe freedom is smarter and the only way to keep it smart is staying away from money. You COULD introduce money but you have to do it without constrains, All I can say is that as long as progs. like PhotoShop cost as much as they do, I'll be sticking to the completely free stuff that the generous developers of the world are putting out. They have my gratitude, if not my money (can't afford it). Joe J. -- SirCrow (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Can't Find feather_paste Plug-in
Oh - sorry - I just saw this e-mail now. Put th e;py file in a GIMP plug-ins folder (on Linux it is /home/user/.gimp-2.8/plug-ins), for example, Check a suitable folder in edit-preferences-folders-plug-ins Joao, I think I've installed the script file in the right place, but I don't think the plug-in is showing up in my GIMP. Can you confirm that the following are the last several lines of the script file feather_paste.py? Also, where exactly should it be found in the menus? Thanks. Sorry to trouble you. Joe ** end of feather_paste.py ** [ (PF_IMAGE, img, Input image, None), (PF_DRAWABLE, layer, Input layer, None) ], [], feathered_paste, menu=Image/Edit ) main() *** -- SirCrow (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] gimp users matter
This feature imposes no hardship on any user and occasionally prevents lost work. This is so obviously wrong that I wonder whether different gimp users are experiencing the same behavior. If this were a matter of receiving an unnecessary warning, then I would agree that the passion is misplaced. This is not about whether or not one wants to see a warning. Several gimp users (including me) have said that the problem is that the file disappears. It is gone. It is no longer on the screen. I don't know how to say this more clearly. I am not a casual gimp user. I use the advanced features. The disappearance of the file is what is causing the problem, not the (useful or unuseful) warning. -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse12.3 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Can't Find feather_paste Plug-in
On 14-01-08 11:35 AM, SirCrow wrote: Put th e;py file in a GIMP plug-ins folder (on Linux it is /home/user/.gimp-2.8/plug-ins), for example, Joao, I think I've installed the script file in the right place, but I don't think the plug-in is showing up in my GIMP. Can you confirm that the following are the last several lines of the script file feather_paste.py? If you installed the file under Linux, have you marked the file as executable? chmod +x feather_paste.py -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |Nerds make the shiny things that distract Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're | powerful! #include disclaimer/favourite | --Chris Hardwick ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Helen wrote: Several gimp users (including me) have said that the problem is that the file disappears. It is gone. It is no longer on the screen. I don't know how to say this more clearly. Step-by-step explanation of what you do and what happens usually helps. I vaguely recall that I tried following the previous discussion on that and gave up because there was no such step-by-step explanation. Alexandre ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter
Helen, id id as much as dig messages of you from last June to understand what you are talking about and your context. And it seems to me that you fundamentantaly misunderstood one or more things. You are complaining that now when you export to JPG the file disapears from your screen. After reading your messages, I believe you are saying this because since the image that is kept open in GIMP is not now named myfile.jpg the JPG file generated in disk might not correspond to the file you see on screen. Actually, this behavior had not changed between GIMP 2.6 and GIMP 2.8 - the image you have open in GIMP after exporting it to JPG or some other format in GIMP 2.8, is the exactly same as you had after exporting it to the same formats in GIMP 2.6, but for the name shown on the Window title. (And I am using the verb exporting to the formats in gimp 2.6 on purpose, the application did tell you it was exporting the file in an annoying pop-up dialog, even though it was accessed through the Save menu option) The image on screen is, and always has been as different from the file on disk in GIMP 2.8 as in previous versions: the formats you mention: jpg, png, gif and others, are always one single layer, varying degree of support to transparency, and sometimes even with pixel infomation degradation (in the case of JPG) So, if you used to rely on what you saw on screem after saving as JPG on GIMP 2.6 before sending the file to someone (in terms of image quality, or whatever), you were doing it wrong before. You can check the code if you want. All file exporting plug-ins (i.e., the code that write out image formats that are not .xcf, and they have always been called exporting plug-ins) start by making a copy of the image one is editing, and flattening, or merging visible layers on this copy, before actually writting any bytes to disk. Now, it looks like you are a power user, and long time participant on this list - I'd like to invite you to participate on constructive terms to the project, and not keep crying about a behavior that, it seems, may have saved you from sending incorrect data more than once. (since now you actually check the JPG file generated on disk before sending it to production, if that is indeed needed in your use cases) js -- On 8 January 2014 14:51, Helen etter...@gmail.com wrote: This feature imposes no hardship on any user and occasionally prevents lost work. This is so obviously wrong that I wonder whether different gimp users are experiencing the same behavior. If this were a matter of receiving an unnecessary warning, then I would agree that the passion is misplaced. This is not about whether or not one wants to see a warning. Several gimp users (including me) have said that the problem is that the file disappears. It is gone. It is no longer on the screen. I don't know how to say this more clearly. I am not a casual gimp user. I use the advanced features. The disappearance of the file is what is causing the problem, not the (useful or unuseful) warning. -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse12.3 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Attn: GIMP
woot! Philly right here! SAM On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Jeff Weidemoyer jeffweidemo...@adponemansjourney.com wrote: Shlomi Fish, Thank you for your reply. After I get my budget back on track (GIMP may be free, but music gear is most certainly not haha), I will gladly make a donation. I know several friends who use it consistently as well. Happy New Year to you too! -Original Message- From: Shlomi Fish [mailto:shlo...@shlomifish.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 3:27 PM To: Jeff Weidemoyer Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Attn: GIMP Hi Jeff, On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 22:30:29 -0500 Jeff Weidemoyer jeffweidemo...@adponemansjourney.com wrote: Attn: GIMP, Firstly, I apologize if this was not the correct email contact. I did not see a better email contact provided in regards to my email content. I am a solo musician / songwriter from Lebanon, PA, USA, and I wish to thank you all for being such an important influence to me as I look to continue the journey I have started with my creative project. I wouldn't have been able to create my EP without your great product. I have been using GIMP for nearly four years, and I have created every single logo I have to my name using your product. They say that the best things in life are free, and with everything your product offers, I believe Audacity is one of those things that statement is referring to. Admittedly, your product as well as Audacity, are two of the best free software programs available for any creative person as far as I am concerned. All of the album artwork, as well as marketing materials I made to support the EP was made utilizing GIMP. I'm glad you like GIMP and found it useful. I believe the GIMP developers will appreciate a donation, but, naturally, you are not obligated to make one. Good luck, and Happy New Year! I plan to release a third EP, and 24 full-length albums over the next 24 years of my creative career. Unless any unforeseen circumstances come up, I plan to continue using your products throughout the entirety of my musical career. I hope I can help to bring even more pride and respect to your already reputable brand through my music. http://adponemansjourney.bandcamp.com (Free instant-download) Thanks for the link. I downloaded the album (without paying) and I am going to listen to it. If I like it enough, then I may make a donation. Regards, -- Shlomi Fish (a GIMP contributor and coder, but certainly not a core developer). -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Humanity - Parody of Modern Life - http://shlom.in/humanity “Interesting” has a negative correlation with “successful”. — Anno on Freenode’s #perl Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply.. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter
On 01/08/2014 11:51 AM, Helen wrote: This feature imposes no hardship on any user and occasionally prevents lost work. This is so obviously wrong that I wonder whether different gimp users are experiencing the same behavior. If this were a matter of receiving an unnecessary warning, then I would agree that the passion is misplaced. This is not about whether or not one wants to see a warning. Several gimp users (including me) have said that the problem is that the file disappears. It is gone. It is no longer on the screen. I don't know how to say this more clearly. I am not a casual gimp user. I use the advanced features. The disappearance of the file is what is causing the problem, not the (useful or unuseful) warning. Hey Helen, THAT sounds like a bug in the software to me. I never saw anything like it, in any GIMP version on any operating system. This is definitely not what the save vs. export (non)issue is about, it's something else entirely. Right now I don't have the time to dig into the problem at all, but if you can get the GIMP to do this bad thing on demand, it has the makings of a formal bug report. :o/ Steve ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp users matter
Alexandre wrote, On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Helen wrote: Several gimp users (including me) have said that the problem is that the file disappears. It is gone. It is no longer on the screen. I don't know how to say this more clearly. Step-by-step explanation of what you do and what happens usually helps. I vaguely recall that I tried following the previous discussion on that and gave up because there was no such step-by-step explanation. Alexandre Yes. Back in June 2013. This seems to be Helen's initial description of the disappears problem: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/2013-June/msg00145.html Thread A sad case of regression ? There were several detailed replies, but no real indication from Helen if we interpreted her question properly or if she understood our replies. -- Bob Long ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Can't find feather_paste.py in GIMP
If you installed the file under Linux, have you marked the file as executable? chmod +x feather_paste.py Sorry! Forgot to mention that I'm still stuck with Windows Vista. Yes, you heard me. So, if making executable is n/a, then where within the GIMP UI should I find that elusive plug-in? Thanks! Cheers, Joe -- SirCrow (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Can't find feather_paste.py in GIMP
1. Where did you download the file from? 2. What the file extension after downloading? 3. Where did you put the file once downloaded? On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:55 PM, SirCrow for...@gimpusers.com wrote: If you installed the file under Linux, have you marked the file as executable? chmod +x feather_paste.py Sorry! Forgot to mention that I'm still stuck with Windows Vista. Yes, you heard me. So, if making executable is n/a, then where within the GIMP UI should I find that elusive plug-in? Thanks! Cheers, Joe -- SirCrow (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Can't find feather_paste.py in GIMP
On 14-01-08 06:55 PM, SirCrow wrote: where within the GIMP UI should I find that elusive plug-in? Thanks! You showed the menu entry in the plug-in is menu=Image/Edit. The Image part indicates that the menu will appear in the menus you see when you have an image open and right click the image to get a menu. The menu entry you are looking for will be under the Edit menu entry of the menus which appear after right-clicking an image. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |Nerds make the shiny things that distract Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're | powerful! #include disclaimer/favourite | --Chris Hardwick ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
