Re: [Gimp-user] New User - adding snow to scene???

[Rick Strong]

It depends on the time of year.  {8>)
What kind of snow are you looking for?

Rick S.

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Hi, I am a new user to Gimp because my wife spoke to someone in her art 
group

who said Gom 2 could be used to add snow to a photo or scanned artwork.

I have looked around Gimp (there's a lot in it!)  and cannot find any 
suggestion
to do what she suggests. I have done some tutorials, all very interesting 
but

not addresses what she wants to do.

Is she barking up the wrong tree?

Many thanks, Brian

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[Gimp-user] New User - adding snow to scene???

[Aswell]

Hi, I am a new user to Gimp because my wife spoke to someone in her art group
who said Gom 2 could be used to add snow to a photo or scanned artwork.

I have looked around Gimp (there's a lot in it!)  and cannot find any suggestion
to do what she suggests. I have done some tutorials, all very interesting but
not addresses what she wants to do.

Is she barking up the wrong tree?

Many thanks, Brian

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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Matthew Woehlke via gimp-user-list]

On 2018-08-15 15:14, nickib wrote:
> Wow - the revision you created is beautiful!  Honestly I don’t understand most
> of your explanation but the end product would be perfect!  Bottom line - how
> large - realistically- could that be made and still look good?

With my version, *as is*, I wouldn't go crazy, but again, that version
doesn't have any 'art filters' applied yet.

I would recommend heading over to Image → Scale Image, punch in 300 dpi
and then your target size (in inches). Then fiddle with Oilify and/or
Gimpressionist. Applying unsharp mask first with a low radius and
moderately high intensity (I used 3.0 and 0.6) will help enhance the
contrast at edges and may provide more "definition" after the art
filter. Anyway, play around, inspect a few areas on your monitor at 100%
zoom and, if they look good, go for it.

You should probably do a test print at a much smaller size to check that
the color comes out acceptably before committing to a large size. You
could also print a cropped area from your target size to get a feel for
what it looks like.

Oilify is okay, but a little plain. I've mostly fiddled with
Gimpressionist. Some settings that seem to work well are:
- paper: low or zero relief
- brush: low or zero relief, crayon08 or play around
- orientation: 30 vars, start 0, span 360, adaptive
- size: use adaptive, play around with the rest
- placement: evenly distributed, crank density to max
- color: center, low or zero noise
- general: keep original, paint edges, not tilable, no shadow,
   no edge darken

This takes a while time to apply... try experimenting on a small area
and go get lunch or something while it works on your whole image.
Really, I'd just encourage you to play around with it and see what you
like. I was going for a more "accurate" look, but there are all sorts of
things you can do if you're willing to sacrifice detail for a more
abstract look. Keep in mind your target size also when picking a brush
size; larger (100 or more) will look more "realistic" and less like a
painting made by an army of ants (i.e. with really tiny brushes).

Honestly, with this approach, I think the real limiting factor is how
big an image your computer can handle. Crank the brush size up to 200
and you could maybe have something that looks good (at 300dpi) even at
8' (96") wide.

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[Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[nickib]

>The more I look at the "lightroom version", the less I like it. For
>me,
>the orange is oversaturated; I preferred the softer, more "pastel"
>look
>of the original. Also, the dock is so dark in the original that trying
>to recover any detail there doesn't look particularly good to my eye,
>besides that I preferred it being just a silhouette anyway.
>
>I also looked at how I would crop it to 2:1 and... didn't like any of
>*those* results either. You either lose a lot of the interesting bits
>of
>the sky, or the interesting detail on the sand in the lower corner, or
>both. If you can keep the original aspect ratio, it might be worth
>doing so.
>
>I decided to play around with it, and came up with this:
>JPEG:
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/16LIjBfkghhJr-A-6eDQCmlqTAe1mhRVv/view?usp=sharing
>XCF:
>https://drive.google.com/open?id=12Kp1HUB1tlQNgk2LzQSSh3vcrQg-3lYM
>
>(I crushed the quality rather severely on the JPEG to get the file
>size
>down. This is meant as a preview only; the XCF is lossless and
>includes
>all of the layers that were used to achieve this composition.)
>
>This reflects how I often process images in order to enhance local
>contrast, although I usually throw in one or two mantiuk06 layers as
>well.
>
>- The "equalize contrast" layer is the original, desaturated (I almost
>always use luminosity mode), inverted, and then with a Gaussian blur
>applied (which I forget to do this time, but the other layers hammer
>the
>values enough that it doesn't matter in this case). Without the blur,
>this will tend to wash out the value range entirely in your image,
>leaving you just color. *With* the blur, it will reduce global
>contrast
>while retaining local contrast; basically, it's a sort of "poor man's
>HDR" that will bring back details in your shadows and highlights. In
>this case, however, it didn't work very well, though it does keep the
>light areas in the clouds from washing out quite so badly.
>
>- STRESS (Tools → GEGL Operation) is just fun. Not only will it help
>your contrast, it has an uncanny ability to remove color bias. Lower
>radius and iterations give more local contrast but are also more prone
>to noise and artifacts. I usually like to use one layer with the
>radius
>and iterations as low as possible as a gentle (low opacity) overlay
>(i.e. the "overlay" blending mode) to enhance contrast, and another
>with
>the radius cranked up (the recommendation is "longest image dimension"
>­— in this case, 4000 — or the max of 5000) and 15+ iterations as an
>overall "improvement" layer that I usually blend in heavily or just
>outright replace the original image at the bottom of the stack.
>
>- C2G (also GEGL) is basically STRESS without the color. I've started
>more recently using this as an additional overlay layer, as dropping
>the
>color often lets me get away with using a lower radius without the
>resulting artifacts being as bad. In this instance, I thought it made
>the shadows on the waves *too* dark, so I added a layer mask to blend
>it
>out toward the bottom.
>
>- After playing with the blending on the above to get the contrast I
>liked, the sky was *too* blue, so I cloned the original and applied it
>with "color" blend mode to bring back some, but not all, of the pink.
>Per above, I personally think *some* blue gives character to the
>result,
>especially thinking of it as a painting and not something trying to be
>perfectly realistic. However, you could play with the opacity on this
>layer to bring the colors more back toward the original, or also play
>with Colors → Hue-Saturation (or maybe Colors → Curves) if you like a
>more saturated look.
>
>I stopped at this point, which basically represents where I felt
>satisfied with the overall color and contrast. Per my previous
>suggestion, however, what I would do from here is to save this, then
>start a new image from 'copy visible', scale it up to your desired
>size/DPI, then play around with Oilify, Van Gogh, and/or
>Gimpressionist
>(or really anything under Filters → Artistic). For this piece, I felt
>the best results from gimpressionist were obtained setting the stroke
>direction and size both to 'adaptive', setting the brush relief to 0,
>and cranking the density. You'll also almost certainly want 'evenly
>distributed' placement. In any case, be warned that some of these may
>take quite a while to run at high resolution; you may want to play
>around for a while on a few small sections of the image.

Wow - the revision you created is beautiful!  Honestly I don’t understand most
of your explanation but the end product would be perfect!  Bottom line - how
large - realistically- could that be made and still look good?

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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Matthew Woehlke via gimp-user-list]

On 2018-08-13 15:01, nickib wrote:
>> You might be going about this all wrong. If you really want to use
>> this to produce a very large physical print, I would consider 
>> embracing that the original image is smudgy by upsampling it (maybe
>> to 7200x3600 if not 14400x7200 after cropping it to 2:1) and then 
>> applying some of gimp's artistic filters to achieve a look that is
>> more "painting" than "photograph".>
> Matthew - and all of you really - I am blown away by all of your knowledge and
> comprehension of this dilemma and possible solutions!  I SO WISH I could
> understand the language and techniques better!  I might as well be staring at
> the GIMP program in Japanese for as much as I am lost!  At the risk of
> sounding like a complete idiot can any of you recommend how I might go about
> figuring out these ideas or where I might go for assistance in doing so?

The more I look at the "lightroom version", the less I like it. For me,
the orange is oversaturated; I preferred the softer, more "pastel" look
of the original. Also, the dock is so dark in the original that trying
to recover any detail there doesn't look particularly good to my eye,
besides that I preferred it being just a silhouette anyway.

I also looked at how I would crop it to 2:1 and... didn't like any of
*those* results either. You either lose a lot of the interesting bits of
the sky, or the interesting detail on the sand in the lower corner, or
both. If you can keep the original aspect ratio, it might be worth doing so.

I decided to play around with it, and came up with this:
JPEG:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16LIjBfkghhJr-A-6eDQCmlqTAe1mhRVv/view?usp=sharing
XCF: https://drive.google.com/open?id=12Kp1HUB1tlQNgk2LzQSSh3vcrQg-3lYM

(I crushed the quality rather severely on the JPEG to get the file size
down. This is meant as a preview only; the XCF is lossless and includes
all of the layers that were used to achieve this composition.)

This reflects how I often process images in order to enhance local
contrast, although I usually throw in one or two mantiuk06 layers as well.

- The "equalize contrast" layer is the original, desaturated (I almost
always use luminosity mode), inverted, and then with a Gaussian blur
applied (which I forget to do this time, but the other layers hammer the
values enough that it doesn't matter in this case). Without the blur,
this will tend to wash out the value range entirely in your image,
leaving you just color. *With* the blur, it will reduce global contrast
while retaining local contrast; basically, it's a sort of "poor man's
HDR" that will bring back details in your shadows and highlights. In
this case, however, it didn't work very well, though it does keep the
light areas in the clouds from washing out quite so badly.

- STRESS (Tools → GEGL Operation) is just fun. Not only will it help
your contrast, it has an uncanny ability to remove color bias. Lower
radius and iterations give more local contrast but are also more prone
to noise and artifacts. I usually like to use one layer with the radius
and iterations as low as possible as a gentle (low opacity) overlay
(i.e. the "overlay" blending mode) to enhance contrast, and another with
the radius cranked up (the recommendation is "longest image dimension"
­— in this case, 4000 — or the max of 5000) and 15+ iterations as an
overall "improvement" layer that I usually blend in heavily or just
outright replace the original image at the bottom of the stack.

- C2G (also GEGL) is basically STRESS without the color. I've started
more recently using this as an additional overlay layer, as dropping the
color often lets me get away with using a lower radius without the
resulting artifacts being as bad. In this instance, I thought it made
the shadows on the waves *too* dark, so I added a layer mask to blend it
out toward the bottom.

- After playing with the blending on the above to get the contrast I
liked, the sky was *too* blue, so I cloned the original and applied it
with "color" blend mode to bring back some, but not all, of the pink.
Per above, I personally think *some* blue gives character to the result,
especially thinking of it as a painting and not something trying to be
perfectly realistic. However, you could play with the opacity on this
layer to bring the colors more back toward the original, or also play
with Colors → Hue-Saturation (or maybe Colors → Curves) if you like a
more saturated look.

I stopped at this point, which basically represents where I felt
satisfied with the overall color and contrast. Per my previous
suggestion, however, what I would do from here is to save this, then
start a new image from 'copy visible', scale it up to your desired
size/DPI, then play around with Oilify, Van Gogh, and/or Gimpressionist
(or really anything under Filters → Artistic). For this piece, I felt
the best results from gimpressionist were obtained setting the stroke
direction and size both to 'adaptive', setting the brush relief to 0,
and 

Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Matthew Woehlke via gimp-user-list]

On 2018-08-13 15:43, Ofnuts wrote:
> On 08/13/18 20:31, Matthew Woehlke via gimp-user-list wrote:
>> Also, make sure you save the result at least as a JPEG with 98% to 100%
>> quality, if not PNG.
>
> I second the idea to hide the defects with some heavy "artistic"
> filtering, but 98% quality? Totally unnecessary. On rathre expensive
> Canon DSLRs, the "fine" JPEG quality is 97%. Going above that add a lot
> to file size without adding much in actual quality. After a heavy
> filter, 90% would be enough.

Maybe I am overly paranoid because I have seen so many images with
really terrible JPEG artifacts. Still, for high resolution print, I
personally would tend toward the paranoid side; disk space is cheap
these days and we're not talking about GB's...

I seem to recall reading somewhere that around 95-98% you basically
cannot tell the difference vs. lossless.

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[Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[nickib]

>I'm not sure I'd go even that big. The original was twice that
>resolution and had a lot less JPEG artifacting.
>
>Actually... you might be going about this all wrong. If you really
>want
>to use this to produce a very large physical print, I would consider
>embracing that the original image is smudgy by upsampling it (maybe to
>7200x3600 if not 14400x7200 after cropping it to 2:1) and then
>applying
>some of gimp's artistic filters to achieve a look that is more
>"painting" than "photograph". This will make some of the lack of
>quality in the original irrelevant. At least give it a try digitally;
>if
>you don't like the result, all you've lost is some time.
>
>Also, make sure you save the result at least as a JPEG with 98% to
>100%
>quality, if not PNG.
Matthew - and all of you really - I am blown away by all of your knowledge and
comprehension of this dilemma and possible solutions!  I SO WISH I could
understand the language and techniques better!  I might as well be staring at
the GIMP program in Japanese for as much as I am lost!  At the river sk of
sounding like a complete idiot can any of you recommend how I might go about
figuring out these ideas or where I might go for assistance in doing so?  Thank
you all again for sharing your expertise!  Coincidentally we heard a famous
graphic artist/photographer at church yesterday. Anyone ever hear of Jeremy
Cowart?  His story is amazing!

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[Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[gstalnaker]

>I'm not sure I'd go even that big. The original was twice that
>resolution and had a lot less JPEG artifacting.
>
>Actually... you might be going about this all wrong. If you really
>want
>to use this to produce a very large physical print, I would consider
>embracing that the original image is smudgy by upsampling it (maybe to
>7200x3600 if not 14400x7200 after cropping it to 2:1) and then
>applying
>some of gimp's artistic filters to achieve a look that is more
>"painting" than "photograph". This will make some of the lack of
>quality in the original irrelevant. At least give it a try digitally;
>if
>you don't like the result, all you've lost is some time.
>
>Also, make sure you save the result at least as a JPEG with 98% to
>100%
>quality, if not PNG.

nickib -- I HEARTILY endorse Matthew's suggestion. Make it painting printed on
canvas using GIMP's extension artistic filters (and don't forget G'MIC's set of
filters as well). The issues with the original image quality (or lack thereof)
would be offset by the process of applying the filter depending on the filter
you select. An excellent idea IMO.

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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 02:31:37PM -0400, Matthew Woehlke via gimp-user-list 
wrote:
> On 2018-08-13 13:09, Partha Bagchi via gimp-user-list wrote:
> > The image is 2048x1536 (3.1 MP). Best you can hope for is an 8 by 10.
> > That's inches. If you are willing to sacrifice quality further you can try
> > printing in 150dpi which would give you 14 by 10.
> 
> I'm not sure I'd go even that big. The original was twice that
> resolution and had a lot less JPEG artifacting.
> 
> Actually... you might be going about this all wrong. If you really want
> to use this to produce a very large physical print, I would consider
> embracing that the original image is smudgy by upsampling it (maybe to
> 7200x3600 if not 14400x7200 after cropping it to 2:1) and then applying
> some of gimp's artistic filters to achieve a look that is more
> "painting" than "photograph". This will make some of the lack of
> quality in the original irrelevant. At least give it a try digitally; if
> you don't like the result, all you've lost is some time.
> 
> Also, make sure you save the result at least as a JPEG with 98% to 100%
> quality, if not PNG.
> 
Since I had the 2048 version and opened it again to look at some
details of the g'mic interface when answering a question elsewhere -

If Nick has the g'mic plugin, look at its options - for me, this
image benefits from Details -> Local Contrast Enhancement (default
settings) - that appears to improve resolution in the main parts of
the pier, and makes the water shinier, but maybe manipulates the
colours in ways Nic doesn't like.  I've no idea what the original
colours were, it's a sunset shot.

There are also lots of other filters in g'mic, and for this image I
think the film emulation options might be useful (particularly
slide, but maybe also colour print) - look at the 'preset' option in
each, the results differ greatly (e.g. some of the fuji presets give
bold warm colours here, others seem much colder or less-sunset).

And, of course, the sharpening filters in Details : I'm now getting
used to using the gimp's default settings for the GEGL unsharp mask
(I used to use the old unsharp mask, which is still available), but
g'mic has several more sharpening filters that I occasionally use.
Hint - for *onscreen* display, zoom to 100% and scroll around the
image - some filters look ok when the image is less than
screen-size, but zooming in to 100% may show oddities.

As always with photo manipulation, experiment and keep notes (and
backups, both for the photos and the notes!)

ĸen
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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Ofnuts]

On 08/13/18 20:31, Matthew Woehlke via gimp-user-list wrote:

On 2018-08-13 13:09, Partha Bagchi via gimp-user-list wrote:

The image is 2048x1536 (3.1 MP). Best you can hope for is an 8 by 10.
That's inches. If you are willing to sacrifice quality further you can try
printing in 150dpi which would give you 14 by 10.

I'm not sure I'd go even that big. The original was twice that
resolution and had a lot less JPEG artifacting.

Actually... you might be going about this all wrong. If you really want
to use this to produce a very large physical print, I would consider
embracing that the original image is smudgy by upsampling it (maybe to
7200x3600 if not 14400x7200 after cropping it to 2:1) and then applying
some of gimp's artistic filters to achieve a look that is more
"painting" than "photograph". This will make some of the lack of
quality in the original irrelevant. At least give it a try digitally; if
you don't like the result, all you've lost is some time.

Also, make sure you save the result at least as a JPEG with 98% to 100%
quality, if not PNG.

I second the idea to hide the defects with some heavy "artistic" 
filtering, but 98% quality? Totally unnecessary. On rathre expensive 
Canon DSLRs, the "fine" JPEG quality is 97%. Going above that add a lot 
to file size without adding much in actual quality. After a heavy 
filter, 90% would be enough.



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[Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Matthew Woehlke via gimp-user-list]

On 2018-08-13 13:09, Partha Bagchi via gimp-user-list wrote:
> The image is 2048x1536 (3.1 MP). Best you can hope for is an 8 by 10.
> That's inches. If you are willing to sacrifice quality further you can try
> printing in 150dpi which would give you 14 by 10.

I'm not sure I'd go even that big. The original was twice that
resolution and had a lot less JPEG artifacting.

Actually... you might be going about this all wrong. If you really want
to use this to produce a very large physical print, I would consider
embracing that the original image is smudgy by upsampling it (maybe to
7200x3600 if not 14400x7200 after cropping it to 2:1) and then applying
some of gimp's artistic filters to achieve a look that is more
"painting" than "photograph". This will make some of the lack of
quality in the original irrelevant. At least give it a try digitally; if
you don't like the result, all you've lost is some time.

Also, make sure you save the result at least as a JPEG with 98% to 100%
quality, if not PNG.

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[Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[gstalnaker]

>Here is one that was taken from my camera and edited in Lightroom.  I
>have no idea how large this would be able to be printed.  Do you?  Is
>there anywhere online I can submit several pictures to see how large
>they can be made without losing quality?  I really want to use this
>picture somehow!  Thanks again.

nickib - rich404 gave you the most detailed and correct answer (though rather a
lot of info in a compact way). Let's see if I can help. The issue you're having
is the difference between what a computer/phone screen shows you and what a
print of the same image will show you and the image file that a camera creates.

My monitor right now is displaying 2560x1440 pixel (dots-per-inch) resolution.
At 26" wide, my monitor shows an inch of image using 2560 pixels/26 inches = 98
pixels (or 98 DPI). Nice. High-density displays have more DPI.

Printers, on the other hand, have MUCH MUCH more DPI than most consumer
displays. My $60 HP Color InkJet printer prints at 1440 DPI. Printers can get
much better than my cheap HP.

My Nikon N7000 camera creates images at even larger DPI: Image Size - Large;
Size (pixels): 4928x3264 (1.5:1); Print Size / In: 16.4x10.9 (a resolution of
4928/16 = 300 DPI). My LG V30 phone image resolution is 4656x2328 (2:1). The
difference? FAR FAR superior lens/sensor on the Nikon than the LG. The teeny
sensor on the LG phone cannot compete and almost always significant image detail
is lost in its images than what the Nikon can capture with its much larger sense
(and superior lens; check out https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4155644 for
a discussion of the physical size of the image sensor regardless of its
"megapixel" rating). Benefit of the LG? I almost always have it with me.

NOTE what the Nikon manuals says is the approximate size for an image printed at
Large: 16"x10" -- that's MUCH smaller than you're talking about. Keep this in
mind when contemplating how big you can go before undesirable image artifacts
become *visible* (Partha explicitly mentions this).

To make an image print well use an application like Lightroom/GIMP to modify the
image file so that it will PRINT at printer DPI (don't rely on image programs
like Microsoft's image viewer that do these things "behind the scenes" where you
cannot control them). The larger the resolution of the image you start with, the
better the PRINT will be because the image software you use to get the image
file to PRINT resolution will have less computational work to do. Do NOT rely on
what you see on a monitor (remember they have MUCH lower DPI than printers do).

GIMP lets you do this in the SCALE option. With an image open from the Image
menu select Scale Image. Modify the X resolution and Y resolution so that they
are 150 DPI or larger (personally I'd use no less than 300x300). Note that doing
this will usually cause the Width/Height values to greatly increase. This is
okay. BUT ... doing this also makes the image size when saved to a harddrive
also much larger.

GIMP uses sophisticated computations to take an inch of image at one DPI and
make an inch of image at another DPI. But it is not magic. A poor source image
may not scale well. If you're going from an image that prints well at 16"x10"
(my Nikon or my LG phone) to 40"x20" you'll most likely see issues, if you see
them, in long diagonals across an image (e.g., the roof line of your image).

Another issue as other posters have said, is that prints are not usually the
same dimensions as modern displays. Prints are typically done at 4"x6", 5"x8",
8"x10", 14"x16", 16"x20", etc. Many modern displays, however, are more like
widescreen TVs, etc. This means that you probably, as one poster said, want to
CROP your original so that it fits a standard print size. Or not ... if your
frameshop can print non-standard sizes and frame them. They can tell you this.

If you do need to crop, GIMP provides a CROP tool. With an image open, SHIFT-C
(or left-click on image and select Tools - Transform - Crop). Make sure you can
see the CROP tools properties. There is an option for Size and a dropdown to
select the scale to use: select INCHES. Now click on the image and drag left.
The boxes next to Size: will display values. You can now manually modify them
(e.g., to 8" x 10") and the crop rectangle will adjust its size accordingly. Now
you can put your cursor in the middle of the crop rectangle and drag it around
to show the part of the image you want to keep. Pressing the RETURN key will
perform the crop.

I will be honest, I'm not hopeful you can get a good printed image at the size
you want from a cell phone camera and expecially from the image you posted on
this thead (it already has pixelation that would make it unacceptable to me,
personally). I know I cannot with my LG phone. But, GIMP can do some pretty
magical things if you want to work at it long enough.

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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 06:39:15PM +0100, Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list wrote:
> 
> As to Nick's question - the "things" in the middle of the pier
> (bump-stops?) are probably the limiting factor, together with how
> close you are when you view it.

I forgot to say that I was looking at an upscaled version (but
zoomed in on a monitor which has around 100 dpi, so no real idea how
big a print would relate to what I was looking at) and therefore no
idea whether upscaling would actually be useful.

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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Ken Moffat via gimp-user-list]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 01:00:53PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 12 August 2018 18:21:33 nickib wrote:
> 
> > >I had a friend play with both the iPhone images and the camera images
> > >using Lightroom. Would it be ok if I uploaded both the RAW (KDC)
> > >images and the ones she edited to get a better idea of what
> > >enlargement IS possible?  I’m at the point where even if I cannot use
> > >it for the 48x24 size it’s too beautiful to not do something with it!
> > >I appreciate any help!  Thanks.
> >
> > Here is one that was taken from my camera and edited in Lightroom.  I
> > have no idea how large this would be able to be printed.  Do you?  Is
> > there anywhere online I can submit several pictures to see how large
> > they can be made without losing quality?  I really want to use this
> > picture somehow!  Thanks again.
> >
> > Attachments:
> > *
> > http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/991/original/Nicki_Sunset_
> >Picture_1_(Favorite).jpg
> 
> 404, you cannot use a parenthesis in the url.
> 

It works in firefox for viewing it, in wget escape both parenthesis
with \ i.e. _\(F ... e\).jpg

As to Nick's question - the "things" in the middle of the pier
(bump-stops?) are probably the limiting factor, together with how
close you are when you view it.  2048 pix wide is quite a small size
for a modern raw image (I've put some of my own online as png at that
size, fine for traditional PC monitors but not suitable for making
large prints).

If your friend can provide a larger version of this image, from
lightroom, in png format then you can probably make bigger prints.

The real questions are:

What formats/sizes does the printing company take, and what are
*your* views on image quality ?  In my own case I get really screwed
up by angular distortions (camera not pointing straight ahead) but I
tend to be fairly permissive about other things.

I say "printing company" because you clearly don't have a big
printer of your own.  The physical limit is probably specified by
what they can accept (format, colourspace, perhaps ppi, perhaps file
size).  And I have no idea what size _you_ would find acceptable,
nor how much you would have to pay - if the cost is not excessive,
maybe print a not-enormous version to see what you think of the
results.

Also see the thread "How to export jpeg without loss of quality?"
which might have some relevant suggestions.

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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 12 August 2018 18:21:33 nickib wrote:

> >I had a friend play with both the iPhone images and the camera images
> >using Lightroom. Would it be ok if I uploaded both the RAW (KDC)
> >images and the ones she edited to get a better idea of what
> >enlargement IS possible?  I’m at the point where even if I cannot use
> >it for the 48x24 size it’s too beautiful to not do something with it!
> >I appreciate any help!  Thanks.
>
> Here is one that was taken from my camera and edited in Lightroom.  I
> have no idea how large this would be able to be printed.  Do you?  Is
> there anywhere online I can submit several pictures to see how large
> they can be made without losing quality?  I really want to use this
> picture somehow!  Thanks again.
>
> Attachments:
> *
> http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/991/original/Nicki_Sunset_
>Picture_1_(Favorite).jpg

404, you cannot use a parenthesis in the url.


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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Partha Bagchi via gimp-user-list]

The image is 2048x1536 (3.1 MP). Best you can hope for is an 8 by 10.
That's inches. If you are willing to sacrifice quality further you can try
printing in 150dpi which would give you 14 by 10.

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:42 PM nickib  wrote:

> >I had a friend play with both the iPhone images and the camera images
> >using Lightroom. Would it be ok if I uploaded both the RAW (KDC)
> >images and the ones she edited to get a better idea of what
> >enlargement IS possible?  I’m at the point where even if I cannot use
> >it for the 48x24 size it’s too beautiful to not do something with it!
> >I appreciate any help!  Thanks.
>
> Here is one that was taken from my camera and edited in Lightroom.  I have
> no
> idea how large this would be able to be printed.  Do you?  Is there
> anywhere
> online I can submit several pictures to see how large they can be made
> without
> losing quality?  I really want to use this picture somehow!  Thanks again.
>
> Attachments:
> *
> http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/991/original/Nicki_Sunset_Picture_1_(Favorite).jpg
>
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[Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[nickib]

>I had a friend play with both the iPhone images and the camera images
>using Lightroom. Would it be ok if I uploaded both the RAW (KDC)
>images and the ones she edited to get a better idea of what
>enlargement IS possible?  I’m at the point where even if I cannot use
>it for the 48x24 size it’s too beautiful to not do something with it! 
>I appreciate any help!  Thanks.

Here is one that was taken from my camera and edited in Lightroom.  I have no
idea how large this would be able to be printed.  Do you?  Is there anywhere
online I can submit several pictures to see how large they can be made without
losing quality?  I really want to use this picture somehow!  Thanks again.

Attachments:
* 
http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/991/original/Nicki_Sunset_Picture_1_(Favorite).jpg

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[Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[nickib]

>Your camera likely does better pictures, but its default settings may
>be
>more neutral than those of your smartphone.
>
>Typically smartphones aim for flashy pictures, and their software will
>go to great lengths to achieve this. But this also makes further
>editing
>of the picture very difficult. By contrast what comes out of a camera
>is
>more neutral but is easier to edit.
>
>There are utilities to process RAW files, your camera likely came with
>such an app, or you can download it from the manufacturer's website. 
>There are otherwise several good free ones.
I had a friend play with both the iPhone images and the camera images using
Lightroom. Would it be ok if I uploaded both the RAW (KDC) images and the ones
she edited to get a better idea of what enlargement IS possible?  I’m at the
point where even if I cannot use it for the 48x24 size it’s too beautiful to not
do something with it!  I appreciate any help!  Thanks.

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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Ofnuts]

On 08/09/18 03:17, nickib wrote:

Sorry but no, or you have a very shitty camera.

- Halos on the edges of the pillars and the bottom of the roofs of the
pagodas, likely some kind of sharpening.

- The roof slopes seem to be made of lace.

- Railings and antennas are blurry (motion blur? the pic was shot at
1/50s but the way people hold their phones this may not be fast
enough).

* Plenty of noise on the white boat to the left

Can look good on a screen, but at 48"? All the problems will jump in
your face. Making that look really good is a lot of work, maybe the
photographer made a very honest offer, or quoted in way to make you go
elsewhere.

Well, I don't think I have a shitty camera, although it is not an $800 one.
It's a Kodak Easyshare.  Before you groan, for as much as I use it, and
understand it, it was at the right pricepoint.  I also have images from that
camera that are in the RAW (extension of KDC) format that I have no way of doing
anything with.  Plus, I don't like the ones from the camera as well as the one
from the iPhone.

Thank you for your input - you clearly have a great eye for detail!

Your camera likely does better pictures, but its default settings may be 
more neutral than those of your smartphone.


Typically smartphones aim for flashy pictures, and their software will 
go to great lengths to achieve this. But this also makes further editing 
of the picture very difficult. By contrast what comes out of a camera is 
more neutral but is easier to edit.


There are utilities to process RAW files, your camera likely came with 
such an app, or you can download it from the manufacturer's website. 
There are otherwise several good free ones.




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[Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[nickib]

>Sorry but no, or you have a very shitty camera.
>
>- Halos on the edges of the pillars and the bottom of the roofs of the
>pagodas, likely some kind of sharpening.
>
>- The roof slopes seem to be made of lace.
>
>- Railings and antennas are blurry (motion blur? the pic was shot at 
>1/50s but the way people hold their phones this may not be fast
>enough).
>
>* Plenty of noise on the white boat to the left
>
>Can look good on a screen, but at 48"? All the problems will jump in 
>your face. Making that look really good is a lot of work, maybe the 
>photographer made a very honest offer, or quoted in way to make you go
>elsewhere.

Well, I don't think I have a shitty camera, although it is not an $800 one. 
It's a Kodak Easyshare.  Before you groan, for as much as I use it, and
understand it, it was at the right pricepoint.  I also have images from that
camera that are in the RAW (extension of KDC) format that I have no way of doing
anything with.  Plus, I don't like the ones from the camera as well as the one
from the iPhone.

Thank you for your input - you clearly have a great eye for detail!

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[Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[nickib]

>Print size? 48"x 24" is a bit of a funny size. My print co. uses 24"x
>20" or 30" x 20" for laser colour printing which might be better size.
>
>However, back to the question.
>
>First thing, Gimp is a raster editor and works in pixels which have
>little to do with physical size *until* you come to print. Then a
>property pixels-per-inch (ppi aka dpi) comes into play.
>
>The ppi to use for a poster size is not the same as a 6" x 4"
>photograph. Check this chart which gives advice for ppi vs. viewing
>distance.
>
>http://resources.printhandbook.com/pages/viewing-distance-dpi.php
>
>Quite a conservative value for a large poster size might be 150 ppi.
>
>Back to your photograph: 
>
>I would possibly straight up the horizon first but for this example.
>
>The aspect ratio is not 48:24 (2:1) so the image needs to be cropped.
>That is a matter of preference but might look like this.
>https://i.imgur.com/PM20bUL.jpg
>
>Then scale the image to the required pixel size. Image -> Scale image.
>
>At 150 ppi the image size is 7200 x 3600 pix, but you can set units in
>Gimp like this. https://i.imgur.com/oP36GhJ.jpg Use NoHalo as the
>interpolation method. You get a warning about size but it is just a
>warning. Some operations will a little longer just be careful.
>
>Now is the time to tweak colours etc, but for a beginner that is a
>whole different question.
>
>The final operation is always sharpening (if required) I would use
>Filters -> Enhance -> Unsharp Mask and again the amount you use
>depends on preference. Too much looks very artificial. Small value
>like this. https://i.imgur.com/msg2H1F.jpg
>
>Then stand back to check. https://i.imgur.com/oHfExbT.jpg

Thank you for the indepth information.  I hung on for most of it
comprehension-wise, then you lost me.  Sorry!  The reason for the large size is
because the wall we are putting it on is 7-feet wide.

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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Rick Strong]

It is a great sunrise and kudos for being there and catching it.
Ofnuts has pointed out some problems and one of the main ones I see is that 
it is not sharp at any resolution. Putting it on canvas will make it even 
less sharp.


However, try a print on paper at 240 dpi for a 16 x 20 inch print. See if 
you like it. I assume at your photo shop paper prints are cheaper than 
prints on canvas.


You can scale the image yourself using GIMP. Go Image > Scale image and type 
in 240 dpi. Or type "16" in the width dialogue. Or, try 150 dpi  26x20, your 
call. Save it as a PNG file to avoid more compression artefacts.


Rick S.

P.S. Public libraries, school boards and senior's centres often have good 
beginners courses in how to use your camera. The public institutions are 
more like to have courses geared to the very beginner. Just a thought.


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...
If 48x24 is not an option, I at least need to know realistically the largest 
I

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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[Ofnuts]

On 08/08/18 05:02, nickib wrote:

only the picture on my iPhone is
better than what I got on my camera


Sorry but no, or you have a very shitty camera.

- Halos on the edges  of the pillars and the bottom of the roofs of the  
pagodas, likely some kind of sharpening.


- The roof slopes seem to be made of lace.

- Railings and antennas are blurry (motion blur? the pic was shot at 
1/50s but the way people hold their phones this may not be fast enough).


* Plenty of noise on the white boat to the left

Can look good on a screen, but at 48"? All the problems will jump in 
your face. Making that look really good is a lot of work, maybe the 
photographer made a very honest offer, or quoted in way to make you go 
elsewhere.



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[Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[nickib]

So I took this fabulous picture of a sunrise - only the picture on my iPhone is
better than what I got on my camera (which I REALLY need to learn how to use!)
and I want to have it enlarged on canvas to 48" wide by 24" tall.  The only
problem is I can NOT get a good enough quality image to have a decent end
product.  I am certain that somehow someway this can be done, because a local
photo shop basically enhanced the original image in about 5 minutes just to show
me it could be done.  I really want to do this myself so the whole process is
more cost-effective.

The problem is that I have absolutely no CLUE how to use GIMP!  I downloaded it
and even watched a tutorial, but editing functions are grayed out and when I try
to follow the tutorial my image doesn't look anything like the step-by-step
example.

If 48x24 is not an option, I at least need to know realistically the largest I
can go and keep the integrity of the photo.  Attached is the image.

I appreciate any help.  Thanks!

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[Gimp-user] New User Need Help Enlarging/Enhancing Image

[rich404]

>So I took this fabulous picture of a sunrise - only the picture on my
>iPhone is better than what I got on my camera (which I REALLY need to
>learn how to use!) and I want to have it enlarged on canvas to 48"
>wide by 24" tall.  The only problem is I can NOT get a good enough
>quality image to have a decent end product.  I am certain that somehow
>someway this can be done, because a local photo shop basically
>enhanced the original image in about 5 minutes just to show me it
>could be done.  I really want to do this myself so the whole process
>is more cost-effective.
>
>The problem is that I have absolutely no CLUE how to use GIMP!  I
>downloaded it and even watched a tutorial, but editing functions are
>grayed out and when I try to follow the tutorial my image doesn't look
>anything like the step-by-step example.
>
>If 48x24 is not an option, I at least need to know realistically the
>largest I can go and keep the integrity of the photo.  Attached is the
>image.
>
>I appreciate any help.  Thanks!

Print size? 48"x 24" is a bit of a funny size. My print co. uses 24"x 20" or 30"
x 20" for laser colour printing which might be better size.

However, back to the question.

First thing, Gimp is a raster editor and works in pixels which have little to do
with physical size *until* you come to print. Then a property pixels-per-inch
(ppi aka dpi) comes into play.

The ppi to use for a poster size is not the same as a 6" x 4" photograph. Check
this chart which gives advice for ppi vs. viewing distance.

http://resources.printhandbook.com/pages/viewing-distance-dpi.php

Quite a conservative value for a large poster size might be 150 ppi.

Back to your photograph: 

I would possibly straight up the horizon first but for this example.

The aspect ratio is not 48:24 (2:1) so the image needs to be cropped. That is a
matter of preference but might look like this. https://i.imgur.com/PM20bUL.jpg

Then scale the image to the required pixel size. Image -> Scale image.

At 150 ppi the image size is 7200 x 3600 pix, but you can set units in Gimp like
this. https://i.imgur.com/oP36GhJ.jpg Use NoHalo as the interpolation method.
You get a warning about size but it is just a warning. Some operations will a
little longer just be careful.

Now is the time to tweak colours etc, but for a beginner that is a whole
different question.

The final operation is always sharpening (if required) I would use Filters ->
Enhance -> Unsharp Mask and again the amount you use depends on preference. Too
much looks very artificial. Small value like this.
https://i.imgur.com/msg2H1F.jpg

Then stand back to check. https://i.imgur.com/oHfExbT.jpg

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[Gimp-user] new user

[Chris John]

Thanks for including me in the user list. I'm currently using 2.9.8. My 
interest is post processing of multiple images stacked with Deep Sky 
Stacker.


Chris John

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[PoPs]

I got it at Gimp.org.  I knew it was there, I just couldn't find it. Now with
your very clear directions, I have found it.  I wonder why they hide it? Anyway,
I've copied it into the main Gimp menu, and set it on the taskbar.
Thanks for your swift and precise instruction.
I've had Gimp before but never learned how to get the most from it. I intend to
do just that now.
Again, thanks...

PoPs

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[rich2005]

>I have just downloaded Gimp on Windows 10, 64 bit, I then installed
>it.
>However, now I cannot find the link/button to start the program. There
>is nothing on my desktop or in the taskbar.
>I had even tried looking in the gimp folder on the C:\ drive, but to
>no avail. Nothing there which looks like it would execute the program.
>Please help.

Where did you get the Gimp installation file? Anywhere other than www.gimp.org
is leaving yourself open to malware.

If you do not use the customize option when installing Gimp then you do not get
a desktop shortcut, but you should get a menu entry.

Providing it is there, for a 64 bit installation look for: C:\Program Files\GIMP
2\bin\gimp-2.8.exe

see the attached screenshot

How an installation should go, a 3 minute video 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klV_1PslFG4

Some more about installing/ setting up Gimp, all Windows 10

http://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-Gimp-Installation?pid=202#pid202

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[Gimp-user] New User

[PoPs]

I have just downloaded Gimp on Windows 10, 64 bit, I then installed it.
However, now I cannot find the link/button to start the program. There is
nothing on my desktop or in the taskbar.
I had even tried looking in the gimp folder on the C:\ drive, but to no avail.
Nothing there which looks like it would execute the program.
Please help.

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[Gimp-user] New User Q - Insert Image X as Layer; then Move Outside Image X Original Border

[rich2005]

Ahhtypo...hate this mailing list format

>
>Layer menu -> Layer to Boundary size.
>

Should be Layer menu -> Layer to Image Size

rich: www.gimp-forum.net

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[Gimp-user] New User Q - Insert Image X as Layer; then Move Outside Image X Original Border

[rminkov]

Correction: Obviously, the images aren't below but to the right. First time on
this forum.

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Re: [Gimp-user] New user question- fitting canvas to layers

[Richard]

A small statusbar notification to this effect could be convenient to have ... 
it's always a little confusing when a specific operation performs apparently 
nothing and then you have to figure out why.




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If you have done this after "Layer>Layer to image size" then the layer
has been cropped and "Image>Fit canvas to layers" won't to anything
since the layer is already the same size as the canvas.

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Re: [Gimp-user] New user question- fitting canvas to layers

[carla]

Thanks Pat,
I tried that a bunch of times but absolutely nothing happens. 



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Re: [Gimp-user] New user question- fitting canvas to layers

[Pat David]

If the layer size is larger than the canvas (image) size, you'll need to
increase the canvas size to fit your layers (hint: check the image menu -
https://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-image-resize-to-layers.html).

It might help to be specific about what you've already tried.
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:18 PM carla  wrote:

> I added a new layer to my file and I tried to change the layer to image
> size
> to accommodate it but all I get is a transparent increase in the canvas
> size
> that only shows part of the image. How do i show the whole image? (please
> don't get technical on me- I have no idea what I'm doing!!) Also, I'm on a
> Mac.
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[Gimp-user] New user question- fitting canvas to layers

[carla]

I added a new layer to my file and I tried to change the layer to image size
to accommodate it but all I get is a transparent increase in the canvas size
that only shows part of the image. How do i show the whole image? (please
don't get technical on me- I have no idea what I'm doing!!) Also, I'm on a
Mac. 



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Re: [Gimp-user] new user

[Patrick Shanahan]

* spy46  [03-13-17 16:53]:
> Thank you.
> I would not have thought it would be this . annoying and yet easy.

probably a "Good Thing" but with the information provided, rather
difficult to determine and my cyrstal ball is in the shop for repairs.

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[Gimp-user] new user

[spy46]

Thank you.
I would not have thought it would be this . annoying and yet easy.

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Re: [Gimp-user] new user

[Steve Kinney]

On 03/10/2017 11:41 AM, spy46 wrote:
> I am having a hard time understanding something.
> an area I have selected, will not move when i try to move it, I will either 
> move
> the selection box or the layer.
> how do i move the selection area.

The usual method is to make your selection, adjust the size, shape and
location of the selection as necessary then do Edit > Cut (or Ctrl+x)
and Edit > Paste (or Ctrl+v).  This puts a copy of the selected area
right where it was selected from, and you can drag it around to any
location.  When it is where you want to leave it, click once /outside/
the selection you have been dragging around and it will anchor (merge
down into) the layer you are working on.

Note that if your layer has an alpha channel, dragging the pasted in
selection around will leave a transparent "hole" in the layer.  If your
layer does not have an alpha channel, that "hole" will be the current
background color (white by default).  In the Layers dialog, you will see
options to Add Alpha Channel or Remove Alpha Channel from the currently
selected layer.

You can also make a selection and do Edit > Copy (or Ctrl+c), then Edit
> Paste (or Ctrl+v), then move and anchor your copied selection as
desired, leaving the originally selected area intact.

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[Gimp-user] new user

[spy46]

I am having a hard time understanding something.
an area I have selected, will not move when i try to move it, I will either move
the selection box or the layer.
how do i move the selection area.

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[Gimp-user] New user needs help

[BringOutThe_]

Hi, i am completely new to any form of image editing software, including GIMP.
Basically all i want to do for now is remove watermarks, Logos etc from
pictures.

I have downloaded version 2.8.16 and am having trouble with getting the correct
plugin or whatever installed.

What is the easiest way for me to get things setup; is there a version with all
the pugins and add-ons already downloaded/installed because i hate all this
coping files to c drive stuff!

Thanks

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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Questions

[Pat David]

Or even to HTML - I think there is an export option in powerpoint to
generate an html page directly...

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:03 PM Ofnuts ofn...@gmx.com wrote:

 On 11/03/15 21:01, Jeanne Lucas wrote:
  I am a new user attempting to convert power points to gifs that can be
 played on our company website.   I save the power point presentation as a
 gif, then open it as layers in gimp.   Once I save the presentation again,
 it works well, but the timings I had set in power point are gone.
 
  I cannot find a delay time button nor can I find a way to use the
 frames to get the slides to the different timings I need.   I also
 occasionally have resolution problems when I open the presentation in gimp
 and again as I save them to a gif after I am finished in gimp.
 
  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.   Thank you!

 Animated GIF is not a good format for this:

   * it won't adapt to the user's screen definition, you'll have to use a
 lowest common denominator
   * due to the small number of available colors edges of text and
 diagrams will look pixellated
   * it won't adapt to your user's reading speed

 Why don't you convert your PPT to PDF instead?


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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Questions

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Jeanne Lucas wrote:

 I cannot find a delay time button

What should it do?

 nor can I find a way to use the frames to get the slides to the different 
 timings I need.

Please follow http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Simple_Animations/,
especially Step 3.

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[Gimp-user] New User Questions

[Jeanne Lucas]

I am a new user attempting to convert power points to gifs that can be played 
on our company website.   I save the power point presentation as a gif, then 
open it as layers in gimp.   Once I save the presentation again, it works well, 
but the timings I had set in power point are gone.

I cannot find a delay time button nor can I find a way to use the frames to 
get the slides to the different timings I need.   I also occasionally have 
resolution problems when I open the presentation in gimp and again as I save 
them to a gif after I am finished in gimp.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.   Thank you!


Jeanne Lucas
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McPherson, KS 67460
(620) 241-6559 ext. 300
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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Questions

[Ofnuts]

On 11/03/15 21:01, Jeanne Lucas wrote:

I am a new user attempting to convert power points to gifs that can be played 
on our company website.   I save the power point presentation as a gif, then 
open it as layers in gimp.   Once I save the presentation again, it works well, 
but the timings I had set in power point are gone.

I cannot find a delay time button nor can I find a way to use the frames to 
get the slides to the different timings I need.   I also occasionally have resolution problems when 
I open the presentation in gimp and again as I save them to a gif after I am finished in gimp.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.   Thank you!


Animated GIF is not a good format for this:

 * it won't adapt to the user's screen definition, you'll have to use a
   lowest common denominator
 * due to the small number of available colors edges of text and
   diagrams will look pixellated
 * it won't adapt to your user's reading speed

Why don't you convert your PPT to PDF instead?


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Re: [Gimp-user] New User Questions

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

Or just upload to Slideshare and embed it into the website.

Alex


On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:04 AM, Pat David patda...@gmail.com wrote:
 Or even to HTML - I think there is an export option in powerpoint to
 generate an html page directly...

 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:03 PM Ofnuts ofn...@gmx.com wrote:

 On 11/03/15 21:01, Jeanne Lucas wrote:
  I am a new user attempting to convert power points to gifs that can be
 played on our company website.   I save the power point presentation as a
 gif, then open it as layers in gimp.   Once I save the presentation again,
 it works well, but the timings I had set in power point are gone.
 
  I cannot find a delay time button nor can I find a way to use the
 frames to get the slides to the different timings I need.   I also
 occasionally have resolution problems when I open the presentation in gimp
 and again as I save them to a gif after I am finished in gimp.
 
  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.   Thank you!

 Animated GIF is not a good format for this:

   * it won't adapt to the user's screen definition, you'll have to use a
 lowest common denominator
   * due to the small number of available colors edges of text and
 diagrams will look pixellated
   * it won't adapt to your user's reading speed

 Why don't you convert your PPT to PDF instead?


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[Gimp-user] New User GIMP | Some Help Needed?

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Dear Forum Users,
I am a graphic designer and have to operate so many design applications. But
now in the time of changes. So I decide to use GIMP now. Using GIMP I faces
so many problems with the GIMP tools. In graphical stuffing to made path
into the files. Its so hard and difficult to create path with GIMP. I have
no idea about GIMP clipping path yet. Please, Help which tools can I use for
Clipping Path or background removal.
Recently I used Adobe Photoshop for stuffing to clipping path. you can feel
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Clipping Path. http://www.clippingpathexperts.com/clipping-path.html  



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Re: [Gimp-user] New User GIMP | Some Help Needed?

[Owen]

 Dear Forum Users,
 I am a graphic designer and have to operate so many design
 applications. But
 now in the time of changes. So I decide to use GIMP now. Using GIMP I
 faces
 so many problems with the GIMP tools. In graphical stuffing to made
 path
 into the files. Its so hard and difficult to create path with GIMP. I
 have
 no idea about GIMP clipping path yet. Please, Help which tools can I
 use for
 Clipping Path or background removal.
 Recently I used Adobe Photoshop for stuffing to clipping path. you can
 feel
 free visit the link bellow
 Clipping Path. http://www.clippingpathexperts.com/clipping-path.html




Have a look at this
http://clippingpath.blogetery.com/how-to-remove-backgrounds-from-picture-using-gimp/
and see if that is what you want


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